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Cherie
05-04-2025, 01:04 PM
Prison bosses have been criticised for denying a mother jailed over last summer’s riots the right to spend temporary leave at home with her daughter and sick husband.
Lucy Connolly, who was imprisoned for 31 months for inciting racial hatred in a tweet, has been forced to wait four months in her attempts to secure release on temporary licence, despite being described by one prison expert as an “ideal candidate” for such home leave.
Documents seen by The Telegraph suggest that the 42-year-old childminder from Northampton has not yet been granted the leave amid concerns over public and media interest in her case rather than any apparent failure to meet the criteria for temporary release.
In her appeal, Connolly cited a deterioration in her 12-year-old daughter’s school behaviour, which is “totally out of character”, and the stress being placed on her sick husband, Ray, a Tory councillor who is suffering from bone marrow failure.
Connolly was arrested after posting on X hours after the Southport killings. She spoke of mass deportations and setting fire to asylum hotels “for all I care”.
She added: “I feel physically sick knowing what these [Southport] families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it.”
Connolly took the post down within four hours, but not before it had been viewed 310,000 times and screenshots taken. She was interviewed by police on Aug 6 and charged three days later. She has been in jail since, having pleaded guilty and then sentenced in October.
She has been eligible for release on temporary licence since last November, based on her prison time served. This form of release is open to inmates as a way to “rebuild family ties” and allows for up to two overnight home stays a month.
The only offenders excluded under prison rules include category A prisoners, many serving time for violent, terrorist and sexual crimes, those formally listed as escape risks, and suspects facing extradition.
Asked to assess the process, Ian Acheson, a former prison governor who has advised the Government on extremism in jails, said: “The apparent foot-dragging over consideration for release on temporary licence is concerning.
“It can’t be right that someone who is otherwise eligible is not being considered because of either the prison’s failure to properly risk assess or her ‘notoriety’. It would be perfectly possible for prison authorities to set conditions that precludes any media exposure.
“In my opinion, and given the offence details and the background to her custodial behaviour I have seen, she ought to be an ideal candidate for early release to allow her reintegration to start. Many more risky individuals are walking free as a result of Labour’s emergency mass release legislation.”
‘Victim of two-tier justice’
Richard Tice, the deputy leader of Reform UK, said: “Lucy is the victim of two-tier justice because she is white and Sir Keir Starmer ordered the judiciary to impose stiff sentences last August. It is as simple as that.
“She should be released. Real criminals convicted of violent crimes are being let out while she is detained.”
Prison service sources denied that Connolly’s application for release on temporary licence had been blocked and said it was being considered by the governor at HMP Drake Hall in Staffordshire, to which Connolly has recently been transferred.
A spokesman said: “Decisions on release on temporary licence and home detention curfew are made following uncompromising risk assessments to prioritise public safety.
“These are discretionary schemes, and each case is rigorously scrutinised, considering the severity of the offence, the prisoner’s conduct and the potential impact on victims and the community.”
This seems particularly harsh given her husband is ill? and has Ricky Jones served any time yet? As I understand it his case wont be heard until September
The Telegraph
nope good old Ricky is still walking the streets
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ricky-jones-labour-councilor-trial-riots-delay-b1205817.html
everyone just wants the system to be fair and equally applied to all.
Kate!
05-04-2025, 01:58 PM
This is just awful.
Cherie
05-04-2025, 02:02 PM
yet we have guys like this let out to make more room...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/28/liam-matthews-manslaughter-prisoner-release-keir-starmer/?msockid=26aeb14bcc4b
A prisoner who was freed as part of Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial prison scheme killed someone on the same day he was released.
Liam Matthews, 26, left HMP Holme House in Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, just hours before the “brutal” knife attack.
Father-of-one Lewis Bell, 26, was hunted down “like prey” by Matthews, Ashton White, 18, and Sean McLeod, 23, over a drug dispute, a court heard.
After a trial at Teesside Crown Court, Matthews and White were convicted of his manslaughter, and McLeod of his murder.
The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) has since insisted it had “no choice” but to implement the emergency early release programme.
In June last year, Matthews was jailed for 22 months at the same court for violent disorder after kicking and stamping on his victim in a street fight.
However, he was released early as part of Labour’s plan to free up space amid a boom in prison population during the first month of the emergency measures.
After his release on the morning of Sept 18, Matthews was involved in the fatal knife attack, which resulted in Mr Bell being left to die in the street.
Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, said: “This tragic death was preventable.
“Prisoners sentenced for violent offences obviously shouldn’t be let out early.
“The Justice Secretary’s plans to let out more serious offenders are a very real risk to the public. She must think again.
“Instead, the Government need to deport more foreign nationals offenders clogging up cells and reduce the remand population in prison by speeding up trials.”61053e01a075cdab6040
Now lets get this straight, the woman got 31 months for a social media post, but he got 22 months for stamping and kicking a man....but we dont have a two tier justice system...got it
Liam-
05-04-2025, 04:11 PM
Woman who called for mass murder based on racism, aka, terrorism, isn’t let out of prison to tell her daughter off for not focusing on school, shocking
Mystic Mock
05-04-2025, 04:23 PM
Tbf even the article said that she made a tweet talking about how she doesn't care if one of the Hotels that hold a lot of immigrants caught fire, that's against the law to tweet stuff like that out and rightly so too.
She should've thought about her family before making the tweet.
The only people that deserve leniency with threatening Social Media posts are kids imo.
Livia
05-04-2025, 06:37 PM
White woman jailed for hurty words on the internet denied the right to see her husband and kids. Meanwhile, Asian paedophile given the right to remain here because it would be unnecessarily cruel to his kids to deport him.
And people wonder why Reform is ahead in the polls.
Crimson Dynamo
05-04-2025, 07:21 PM
Ray Connolly knew how easily his wife was triggered by the suffering and death of children. He says she was always writing to MPs and to the papers if there was ever a case of neglect or kids being harmed on the news. In 2011, the Connollys lost their firstborn, Harry, aged 19 months as a result of atrocious failures in NHS care. After multiple hospital visits, and Lucy pleading with a paediatrician to put the listless toddler on a drip, the Connollys took Harry home and laid him in a cot by their bed. They woke at 4am to find the lifeless body of their tiny son. Lucy screamed at Ray to do CPR while she called an ambulance and Ray, who is an immensely practical chap, best person in a crisis, did his best. “But rigor mortis had already set in,” he tells me, the horror of that moment never to be extinguished.
There followed a bruising battle to “get justice for Harry”. Although the coroner found a catalogue of catastrophic failures at the hospital, it was not ruled to have committed gross negligence manslaughter as Harry’s devastated parents had wanted. (“Those doctors have got away with killing my son,” Lucy said.) The Connollys went on to have a “rainbow baby”, two years later, a daughter called Holly*, now aged 12, but Lucy, who received a diagnosis of PTSD after she lost her baby, never truly recovered. Hearing about a mass stabbing of little girls in Southport was enough to tip her over the edge.
When Ray got home that day, he found her in the kitchen with the six toddlers she looked after. “Lucy was crying.” In the absence of any clear information from the authorities about the killer’s identity (Rudakubana was initially described to a disbelieving public only as a Cardiff-born choirboy) and with Merseyside police and Government ministers still insisting the massacre was “not terror-related” the situation on social media was extremely volatile. There was widespread anger that such a monstrous attack had been targeted at the most vulnerable members of our society. That was the state Lucy Connolly was in when she posted the fifty-one words that would ruin her life for a second time, and turn her into the ideal poster girl for Starmer’s pledge to impose heavy sentences on “far-Right thugs”.
Ray knew nothing about the tweet until the police turned up at the house and took his wife away. It was around 8am and all of the infants Lucy looked after were being dropped off for the day by their parents. (Mrs Connolly’s precious charges have included Nigerian, Somalian, Jamaican, Bangladeshi, Lithuanian and Polish, as well as white British, kids. “It’s like the blimmin’ United Nations in here,” the childminder used to joke.) Lucy went with the police “quiet as a lamb, she thought if she did as she was told everything would be fine,” recalls Ray.
I ask him if he ever thought the family’s tragic history and his wife’s mental distress would help Lucy with her case. He shakes his head. “I knew things were bad when Starmer and the Home Office started going on about the ‘far-Right’, they obviously had an agenda.” Over the next few days, Lucy Connolly ceased to be a person and became a demonised figure stripped of nuance and humanity. “Conservative councillor’s racist wife.” That was her name from now on.
Looking back, we can see how it was expedient for panicking politicians to blame social media for civil unrest rather than acknowledge the growing anxiety about uncontrolled immigration that fuelled the rioting. (That would have meant officialdom shouldering some of the blame.) While social media can amplify content that inflames tensions there is little or no evidence that a single post persuades law-abiding people to engage in violent protest.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/
Livia
05-04-2025, 07:42 PM
Jesus, that's heart breaking.
Woman who called for mass murder based on racism, aka, terrorism, isn’t let out of prison to tell her daughter off for not focusing on school, shocking
As a Labour councillor once said
We should cut their throats
Tbf even the article said that she made a tweet talking about how she doesn't care if one of the Hotels that hold a lot of immigrants caught fire, that's against the law to tweet stuff like that out and rightly so too.
She should've thought about her family before making the tweet.
The only people that deserve leniency with threatening Social Media posts are kids imo.
Against the law to be truthful..
Disgusting.
People marching every week against Israel say much the same, bit they have their kids with them
Cherie
05-04-2025, 11:10 PM
Woman who called for mass murder based on racism, aka, terrorism, isn’t let out of prison to tell her daughter off for not focusing on school, shocking
Man freed and goes onto help in a murder....nothing....why am I not surprised ...
Any thoughts on Ricky Jones...No? thought so
you are literally a parody at this stage
Cherie
05-04-2025, 11:12 PM
Tbf even the article said that she made a tweet talking about how she doesn't care if one of the Hotels that hold a lot of immigrants caught fire, that's against the law to tweet stuff like that out and rightly so too.
She should've thought about her family before making the tweet.
The only people that deserve leniency with threatening Social Media posts are kids imo.
Ricky Jones addressed a crowd....as a Counciller and told them to slit throats....is that not a problem for you? No?
Good thing for his family is he is still walking the streets..
Jessica.
06-04-2025, 07:33 AM
Woman who called for mass murder based on racism, aka, terrorism, isn’t let out of prison to tell her daughter off for not focusing on school, shocking
Yeah, I don't get why anyone feels sorry for her.
Cherie
06-04-2025, 07:49 AM
Ray Connolly knew how easily his wife was triggered by the suffering and death of children. He says she was always writing to MPs and to the papers if there was ever a case of neglect or kids being harmed on the news. In 2011, the Connollys lost their firstborn, Harry, aged 19 months as a result of atrocious failures in NHS care. After multiple hospital visits, and Lucy pleading with a paediatrician to put the listless toddler on a drip, the Connollys took Harry home and laid him in a cot by their bed. They woke at 4am to find the lifeless body of their tiny son. Lucy screamed at Ray to do CPR while she called an ambulance and Ray, who is an immensely practical chap, best person in a crisis, did his best. “But rigor mortis had already set in,” he tells me, the horror of that moment never to be extinguished.
There followed a bruising battle to “get justice for Harry”. Although the coroner found a catalogue of catastrophic failures at the hospital, it was not ruled to have committed gross negligence manslaughter as Harry’s devastated parents had wanted. (“Those doctors have got away with killing my son,” Lucy said.) The Connollys went on to have a “rainbow baby”, two years later, a daughter called Holly*, now aged 12, but Lucy, who received a diagnosis of PTSD after she lost her baby, never truly recovered. Hearing about a mass stabbing of little girls in Southport was enough to tip her over the edge.
When Ray got home that day, he found her in the kitchen with the six toddlers she looked after. “Lucy was crying.” In the absence of any clear information from the authorities about the killer’s identity (Rudakubana was initially described to a disbelieving public only as a Cardiff-born choirboy) and with Merseyside police and Government ministers still insisting the massacre was “not terror-related” the situation on social media was extremely volatile. There was widespread anger that such a monstrous attack had been targeted at the most vulnerable members of our society. That was the state Lucy Connolly was in when she posted the fifty-one words that would ruin her life for a second time, and turn her into the ideal poster girl for Starmer’s pledge to impose heavy sentences on “far-Right thugs”.
Ray knew nothing about the tweet until the police turned up at the house and took his wife away. It was around 8am and all of the infants Lucy looked after were being dropped off for the day by their parents. (Mrs Connolly’s precious charges have included Nigerian, Somalian, Jamaican, Bangladeshi, Lithuanian and Polish, as well as white British, kids. “It’s like the blimmin’ United Nations in here,” the childminder used to joke.) Lucy went with the police “quiet as a lamb, she thought if she did as she was told everything would be fine,” recalls Ray.
I ask him if he ever thought the family’s tragic history and his wife’s mental distress would help Lucy with her case. He shakes his head. “I knew things were bad when Starmer and the Home Office started going on about the ‘far-Right’, they obviously had an agenda.” Over the next few days, Lucy Connolly ceased to be a person and became a demonised figure stripped of nuance and humanity. “Conservative councillor’s racist wife.” That was her name from now on.
Looking back, we can see how it was expedient for panicking politicians to blame social media for civil unrest rather than acknowledge the growing anxiety about uncontrolled immigration that fuelled the rioting. (That would have meant officialdom shouldering some of the blame.) While social media can amplify content that inflames tensions there is little or no evidence that a single post persuades law-abiding people to engage in violent protest.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/
Shocking
…I think for me, I’m finding stories such as this to be quite ‘manipulated’ by all media sources so it’s difficult to know the actual truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…I read another article, I think it was the Daily Mail that said that the process was happening of Lucy Connolly being given home visits and that it was all going through certain risk assessment stages atm…(…but I don’t know if a delay I’d being furthered by a transfer of prison, which has happened apparently…)…I also read that her solicitor is appealing for a full release for her prison time …so if that’s going through as well, it could be something that’s happening fairly soon and therefore possibly holding up any ‘family visitation’ in favour of a full release….all of these things happening could be causing a delay…I don’t know, because I don’t know the specifics and the information we get from all media sources is so manipulated to agendas…and in itself to ‘incite and encourage divide’….
it's becoming more and more obvious that nearly every news story is a manipulation. The media, and i mean all media, know that the best engagement comes from making the reader angry, so thats what they do and their viewership fall for it every time
it's becoming more and more obvious that nearly every news story is a manipulation. The media, and i mean all media, know that the best engagement comes from making the reader angry, so thats what they do and their viewership fall for it every time
…yeah it’s kind of become a bit ‘boy who cried wolf’ in terms of media but I think that applies to social media as well and there possibly is some truth in there in some articles but it’s checking it all out and trying to find it…‘sensationalising’ a story and manipulating it is just so commonplace now to the point of becoming what we’ve come to expect and what often arrives…I guess a parallel could be used of there being power in the words that resulted in the conviction in the first place…?…there is power in the sensationalisation of a story../…not so much power in the truth …
Crimson Dynamo
06-04-2025, 09:02 AM
Its interesting that no one (that i can gather) has been jailed for taking to the streets and shouting that they want a violent ethnic cleansing of Israel week after week (as well as using slitting throat gestures and placards)
:think:
The entire sentencing of people for the slightest misdemeanoir during last year's protest/riots was sensationalized by that twat we have to call PM.
Liam-
06-04-2025, 10:18 AM
Yeah, I don't get why anyone feels sorry for her.
Because she’s a white woman that hates brown people just like they do
Livia
06-04-2025, 10:56 AM
Because she’s a white woman that hates brown people just like they do
Your narrow, woke view is sickening. You - and others on here - have nothing to say about Muslims, and it is mostly Muslims, who rape and sexually assault women and children and face no punishment at all because females are worth nothing in their medieval culture. Actual crimes, not just words in the ether. And these same rapists and paedos would cheerfully chuck you, all your gay friends and every transsexual they came across off a roof. But hey... You carry on because you hardly look mad at all.
Also, ignore the fact this woman has cared for children from countries all over the world because it doesn't fit your twisted, hateful agenda.
Cherie
06-04-2025, 11:13 AM
The entire sentencing of people for the slightest misdemeanoir during last year's protest/riots was sensationalized by that twat we have to call PM.
Your narrow, woke view is sickening. You - and others on here - have nothing to say about Muslims, and it is mostly Muslims, who rape and sexually assault women and children and face no punishment at all because females are worth nothing in their medieval culture. Actual crimes, not just words in the ether. And these same rapists and paedos would cheerfully chuck you, all your gay friends and every transsexual they came across off a roof. But hey... You carry on because you hardly look mad at all.
Also, ignore the fact this woman has cared for children from countries all over the world because it doesn't fit your twisted, hateful agenda.
Still waiting for Liam to say what he thinks about Ricky Jones who is still walking the streets after inciting a crowd to cut peoples throats, I guess that is okay as he is Brown and a Counciller, 31 months for a tweet which she took down is pretty scandalous, men get less for rape and domestic assault
Jessica.
06-04-2025, 11:32 AM
Because she’s a white woman that hates brown people just like they do
I can't even fathom it but you must be right..
Jessica.
06-04-2025, 11:34 AM
Your narrow, woke view is sickening. You - and others on here - have nothing to say about Muslims, and it is mostly Muslims, who rape and sexually assault women and children and face no punishment at all because females are worth nothing in their medieval culture. Actual crimes, not just words in the ether. And these same rapists and paedos would cheerfully chuck you, all your gay friends and every transsexual they came across off a roof. But hey... You carry on because you hardly look mad at all.
Also, ignore the fact this woman has cared for children from countries all over the world because it doesn't fit your twisted, hateful agenda.
We know better so we do better, if an individual commits a crime it doesn't mean we should sink to their level and wish the same or worse on anyone with something in common with them.
user104658
07-04-2025, 11:33 AM
nothing to say about Muslims, and it is mostly Muslims, who rape and sexually assault women and children and face no punishment at all
No it isn't. Not a debate really, it just factually isn't. As a mostly white country, most men who sexually assault women are (unsurprisingly) white, by a very, very large margin. Ludicrous claim. I couldn't give you the stats pro rata, but as a claim on the face of it, to say that it's "mostly Muslims" is wild. UK-wide it's 85%+ white, in Scotland it's closer to 95% white.
98%+ male of course every ethnicity has that in common.
[edit] Here's some actual England and Wales stats (2022-2023) for offenses against children under 16 - I couldn't find stats for overall (quickly).
Defendants processed against for child sexual abuse offence
White 88%
White British 83%
White Irish 0% 1%
Any other white background 4%
Asian 7%
Indian 1%
Pakistani 2%
Bangladeshi 1%
Chinese 0%
Any other Asian Background 2%
Black 3%
African 1%
Caribbean 1%
Mixed or multiple 2%
White and Asian 0% 1%
White and black African 0%
White and black Caribbean 0%
Any other mixed background 1%
Any other ethnic background 1%
(0% of course doesn't mean zero, just less than 1%)
user104658
07-04-2025, 11:40 AM
Actually... 82% of England and Wales is white and 88% of child sexual offenses are from White people, which (in absence of other data) would indicate that most paedos are white both by number AND pro rata proportion. Welp.
Crimson Dynamo
07-04-2025, 11:41 AM
No it isn't. Not a debate really, it just factually isn't. As a mostly white country, most men who sexually assault women are (unsurprisingly) white, by a very, very large margin. Ludicrous claim. I couldn't give you the stats pro rata, but as a claim on the face of it, to say that it's "mostly Muslims" is wild. UK-wide it's 85%+ white, in Scotland it's closer to 95% white.
98%+ male of course every ethnicity has that in common.
[edit] Here's some actual England and Wales stats (2022-2023) for offenses against children under 16 - I couldn't find stats for overall (quickly).
Defendants processed against for child sexual abuse offence
White 88%
White British 83%
White Irish 0% 1%
Any other white background 4%
Asian 7%
Indian 1%
Pakistani 2%
Bangladeshi 1%
Chinese 0%
Any other Asian Background 2%
Black 3%
African 1%
Caribbean 1%
Mixed or multiple 2%
White and Asian 0% 1%
White and black African 0%
White and black Caribbean 0%
Any other mixed background 1%
Any other ethnic background 1%
(0% of course doesn't mean zero, just less than 1%)
Livia was referring to the rape gangs that blight most northern English cities.
Do you have stats on the numbers involved and how many were brought to justice?
user104658
07-04-2025, 11:53 AM
Livia was referring to the rape gangs that blight most northern English cities.
Do you have stats on the numbers involved and how many were brought to justice?
Far too few brought to justice but that's the case with all sexual crime; white men get away with it too (constantly). In terms of grooming gangs I believe off the top of my head 70% are white and the rest "other than white", there is a specific issue with Pakistani grooming gangs but it's still less than 10% of total grooming gangs/sex trafficking rings. Proportionately in the specific case of gangs, yes it is a higher proportion that are non-white and specifically Pakistani, but likewise, the proportion of "lone male" offenders who target family members, and institutional abuse ("priests and sports coaches", to put that simply) is higher, so... despicable swings and roundabouts, isn't it?
We can definitely all agree that the inability to bring people to justice for these crimes is a massive issue though, yes.
Crimson Dynamo
07-04-2025, 12:49 PM
remember this?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnygI-OXUAAkAEu?format=jpg&name=small
Mystic Mock
07-04-2025, 11:49 PM
Against the law to be truthful..
Disgusting.
People marching every week against Israel say much the same, bit they have their kids with them
I personally don't agree about the borderline Nazi stuff that gets said about Israel by some people either.
Both things can be wrong.
Mystic Mock
07-04-2025, 11:51 PM
Ricky Jones addressed a crowd....as a Counciller and told them to slit throats....is that not a problem for you? No?
Good thing for his family is he is still walking the streets..
Of course it's a problem as it's threatening behaviour, on top of incitement.
Exactly like this woman also has done, but just for a different political side.
Cherie
08-04-2025, 10:33 AM
Of course it's a problem as it's threatening behaviour, on top of incitement.
Exactly like this woman also has done, but just for a different political side.
Thank you for the response Mock
Can you give me any reason why he has still not had his day in court, he will have held much more sway as a Counciller, plus he was in a public space calling for throats to be slit..... its not exactly as this woman has done as she has not been elected to public office, she is just a nobody on X, so why would her views hold more sway than his, plus she took her tweet down before she was arrested, more than a hint off mysogny here to my mind
user104658
08-04-2025, 10:52 AM
Of course it's a problem as it's threatening behaviour, on top of incitement.
Exactly like this woman also has done, but just for a different political side.
That's the thing - it is ridiculous if people would condemn the incitement on SoMed but then ignore this blatant threat from the labour chap but it's constantly used to deflect... I don't think there are all that many people who actually think that's fine. Yes, the guy who said "slit their throats" should be arrested and charged. And so should the SoMed riot encourages.
I think it's used the other way round as an argument that the racist Social media grannies should be left in peace. Nah. Charge 'em all, on all "sides".
Cherie
08-04-2025, 12:01 PM
That's the thing - it is ridiculous if people would condemn the incitement on SoMed but then ignore this blatant threat from the labour chap but it's constantly used to deflect... I don't think there are all that many people who actually think that's fine. Yes, the guy who said "slit their throats" should be arrested and charged. And so should the SoMed riot encourages.
I think it's used the other way round as an argument that the racist Social media grannies should be left in peace. Nah. Charge 'em all, on all "sides".
I have no problem with her being charged....where did I say I had....I do have an issue with the length of time 31 months when that chap who kicked and assaulted someone on the ground was given 22 months and then let out and went on to help murder someone.....is she a danger to society I dont think so, what I also have an issue with is why the courts had to time to look at her case and many others...(quite rightly) but they dont have time to hear Rickys case.... smacks of its who you know, not what you know, even if he does do time now which I seriously doubt its not good enough.... a year later when everyone else was fast tracked ...it looks like and you know this QB no matter how YOU try to deflect strings were pulled
Also I dont know why you are being so ageist this woman is 41....nowhere near a granny, in fact she is probably closer to your age
Crimson Dynamo
08-04-2025, 12:06 PM
Muhammad Amaad and Mohammed Fahir Amaaz beat up a police woman in July last year
Are they in jail yet?
user104658
08-04-2025, 12:33 PM
I have no problem with her being charged....where did I say I had....I do have an issue with the length of time 31 months when that chap who kicked and assaulted someone on the ground was given 22 months and then let out and went on to help murder someone.....is she a danger to society I dont think so, what I also have an issue with is why the courts had to time to look at her case and many others...(quite rightly) but they dont have time to hear Rickys case.... smacks of its who you know, not what you know, even if he does do time now which I seriously doubt its not good enough.... a year later when everyone else was fast tracked ...it looks like and you know this QB no matter how YOU try to deflect strings were pulled
Also I dont know why you are being so ageist this woman is 41....nowhere near a granny, in fact she is probably closer to your age
Age is a mindset not a number Cherie - anyone who is mouthing off on Facebook or X is a boomer/oldie, let's face it, be they 70 or 17.
Anyway -- I wasn't saying that you have an issue with people being charged for this sort of thing, but a LOT of people do, and it's incredibly common to see people say "oh year but what aboutttt ____ who did _____?!?" in response to any mention of people being charged for insighting riots - with the implication being that these are the "real" crimes that should be tackled while X incitement to violence is "just freedom of speech".
The Americanised media is partially to blame because people (entirely incorrectly) believe that UK freedom of speech laws and US freedom of speech laws are or should be the same, or that any variation of freedom of expression law that deviates from the US "more or less anything goes" stance is "not freedom/not free speech". Just US-centric nonsense like almost everything else these days. We have undeniably better freedom of speech laws than they do stateside. I can agree that they're lenient on some people with them for clearly political reasons - but that really is a separate issue... it's not an argument that aggressive social media chatter should be seen as acceptable.
TiBB has suffered similarly in recent years. Things people were banned for a few years ago fly quite freely (rampant racism, homophobia, misogyny) while the "don't talk about other members" is treated like dogma. IMO it's partly because of that "people can say whatever they want and it's actually wrong to tell them that it's wrong" mindset that's rooted in American freedom-ideals (bad ones) and has spread outwards from there.
Off on a tangent a bit but yeah. That's why people in the UK are "confused" that they can't say whatever they want on Social Media and not be arrested for it. And why so many think Trump is their president I guess :think:.
user104658
08-04-2025, 01:27 PM
To address the comment in general though - anyone in 2025 who wants to be politically or socially aware, or have any hope of piecing together the nonsense that's going on in the world, has to be aware of SoMed trends particularly Facebook and X. I don't engage with or post on them or have active accounts, because they are an absolute cess pit of the worst/dumbest of human nature.
Don't forget they early released the violent thugs, the drug dealers and the thiefs so they could have space to jail the opinionated granny.
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 05:44 AM
Thank you for the response Mock
Can you give me any reason why he has still not had his day in court, he will have held much more sway as a Counciller, plus he was in a public space calling for throats to be slit..... its not exactly as this woman has done as she has not been elected to public office, she is just a nobody on X, so why would her views hold more sway than his, plus she took her tweet down before she was arrested, more than a hint off mysogny here to my mind
With him I'm going to guess there's some level of corruption involved.
I mean we are talking about someone involved with the Government, Covid should've taught everyone that the people in a Political party don't have to follow the same laws as the rest of us.
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 05:49 AM
Don't forget they early released the violent thugs, the drug dealers and the thiefs so they could have space to jail the opinionated granny.
She's more of a threat than drug dealers and the average thief.
At least in my opinion anyway.
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 05:50 AM
That's the thing - it is ridiculous if people would condemn the incitement on SoMed but then ignore this blatant threat from the labour chap but it's constantly used to deflect... I don't think there are all that many people who actually think that's fine. Yes, the guy who said "slit their throats" should be arrested and charged. And so should the SoMed riot encourages.
I think it's used the other way round as an argument that the racist Social media grannies should be left in peace. Nah. Charge 'em all, on all "sides".
Agreed.:clap1:
She's more of a threat than drug dealers and the average thief.
At least in my opinion anyway.
Oh yeah, I'm forgetting the social and political clout an avetage granny has on facebook.:hehe:
Cherie
09-04-2025, 07:37 AM
She's more of a threat than drug dealers and the average thief.
At least in my opinion anyway.
Oh Mock seriously
Cherie
09-04-2025, 07:38 AM
Oh yeah, I'm forgetting the social and political clout an avetage granny has on facebook.:hehe:
why are so many of the TiBB males obsessed with Grannies, this lady is 41
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 08:38 AM
Oh Mock seriously
Drug dealers is more debatable tbf, given what can happen to people that take Drugs.
But how's a regular thief worse than someone that's encouraging a group that she doesn't like, to be dead? I obviously don't approve of theft but it's not the same level as wanting a group of people to die.
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 08:39 AM
Oh yeah, I'm forgetting the social and political clout an avetage granny has on facebook.:hehe:
It only takes one lunatic to take her words seriously.
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 08:40 AM
why are so many of the TiBB males obsessed with Grannies, this lady is 41
Grannies seem to be en vogue at the moment.
Just ask Wayne Rooney.:joker:
Drug dealers is more debatable tbf, given what can happen to people that take Drugs.
But how's a regular thief worse than someone that's encouraging a group that she doesn't like, to be dead? I obviously don't approve of theft but it's not the same level as wanting a group of people to die.
Did she say she wanted a group of people dead?
Livia
09-04-2025, 11:41 AM
Just on the news. More people jailed for asylum seeker riots in Rotherham than the total number of grooming gang abusers jailed. Our young women are worth less than asylum seekers.
How much longer will be allow this?
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 01:35 AM
Did she say she wanted a group of people dead?
She said that she didn't care if the immigrants were caught up in the fire.
So whilst it's not word for word the same, I'm going to infer that she did mean that she wouldn't mind if they were to die from that comment.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 01:40 AM
Just on the news. More people jailed for asylum seeker riots in Rotherham than the total number of grooming gang abusers jailed. Our young women are worth less than asylum seekers.
How much longer will be allow this?
I'll be careful with what I'm about to say here as I don't want to get myself into trouble.
But there's a reason why the laws in this country are soft towards child molesters.
Livia
10-04-2025, 09:12 AM
I'll be careful with what I'm about to say here as I don't want to get myself into trouble.
But there's a reason why the laws in this country are soft towards child molesters.
Personally, if someone rapes a child I'cut off their cock and let them bleed out.
arista
20-05-2025, 05:42 PM
Lucy Connolly's Prison Appeal has failed.
She Wrote Highly Dangerous words.
An Example had to be set.
Cherie
20-05-2025, 05:48 PM
Lucy Connolly's Prison Appeal has failed.
She Wrote Highly Dangerous words.
An Example had to be set.
Sure, Ricky Jones 'said' highly dangerous words in public to a crowd of people , no fast tracking for Labour Counciller Ricky
The Slim Reaper
20-05-2025, 05:56 PM
She plead guilty which automatically speeds someone through the system, Ricky Jones plead not-guilty, which automatically slows down the process.
Anyone with basic legal knowledge could have explained this.
Ricky Jones needs charged with wasting everyone's time by lying about his guilt.
The Slim Reaper
20-05-2025, 06:12 PM
Ricky Jones needs charged with wasting everyone's time by lying about his guilt.
Everyone is entitled to provide a defence. No one would want to go to jail based on an accusation, alone. Let's not be silly.
Cherie
20-05-2025, 07:07 PM
The Labour Counciller who battered a constituent when on the ground got a suspended sentence..... I guess if you are Labour there are no consequences or fast track
Cherie
20-05-2025, 07:09 PM
Ricky Jones needs charged with wasting everyone's time by lying about his guilt.
Indeed, considering there is video evidence of him addressing the crowd, his trial date was set for Jan then suspended again until Sept, no fast track for Labour Ricky and his throat cutting ways
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ricky-jones-labour-councilor-trial-riots-delay-b1205817.html
The Slim Reaper
20-05-2025, 07:47 PM
You're acting like he actually slit someones throat. "Throat cutting ways" :joker:
He will be punished. He's going through the system already, so let me repeat. She. Plead. Guilty.
Until he is acquitted (he won't be), then the rest is just bizarre racism, as it can't be anything else.
when words are spoken, there is always wiggle room in interpretation. Written words on the other hand leave no wiggle room at all
Cherie
20-05-2025, 08:46 PM
when words are spoken, there is always wiggle room in interpretation. Written words on the other hand leave no wiggle room at all
Bet he will get a slap on the wrist, like the white Labour MP who was handy with his fists...its racism to say so though :joker:
The Slim Reaper
20-05-2025, 09:10 PM
When you pretend that there is something underhanded going on, rather than the perfectly reasonable truth, then that needs an explanation.
On reflection, maybe you've just been facebook brained, where labour is a bunch of commies (I wish) who get away with everything, as the law comes down hard on law abiding race baiting Galahads. This obsession with Ricky, definitely seems like a facebook, union jack, meme group thing.
Mystic Mock
21-05-2025, 03:25 AM
Personally, if someone rapes a child I'cut off their cock and let them bleed out.
Tbh I wouldn't cry about that.
But ironically you would face more prison time than the sicko who wants to molest kids.
We do live in a twisted world unfortunately.
Mystic Mock
21-05-2025, 03:27 AM
when words are spoken, there is always wiggle room in interpretation. Written words on the other hand leave no wiggle room at all
Fair point.
Mystic Mock
21-05-2025, 03:29 AM
Lucy Connolly's Prison Appeal has failed.
She Wrote Highly Dangerous words.
An Example had to be set.
That's good news.
We can't encourage grown adults to think that it's okay to incite violence.
Cherie
21-05-2025, 09:11 AM
The trial of a Labour councillor that was due to begin this week has been pushed back by almost seven months. Cllr Ricky Jones was filmed during last summer's riots making a cut throat gesture as he told a left-wing rally: "They are disgusting Nazi fascists and we need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all". Jones was later arrested and charged with encouraging violent disorder. He spent several weeks in custody before being released on bail.
Cllr Jones denies the charges and had been due to stand trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court in east London on Monday. However, the trial has been delayed until August 11 following an application to which the judge agreed. The reason for the application has not been made public.
Nothing to do with pleading not guilty, but lets not let the truth get in the way of manufactured facts :smug: No fast track for Cut their throats Ricky
Cherie
21-05-2025, 12:08 PM
Obviously you can tweet what you like if you move in certain social circles
You can also physically attack a consitutent and get a suspended sentence
Both white...but this is all about race you know....shut up you racist :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
21-05-2025, 12:39 PM
Nothing to do with pleading not guilty, but lets not let the truth get in the way of manufactured facts :smug: No fast track for Cut their throats Ricky
Pleading not guilty is what put him in the system, and trials get delayed every day of the week. Imagine winding yourself up over something with an easy explanation :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
21-05-2025, 12:46 PM
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Lucy's tweet was just a touch angry. Probably wrote something like "gosh darn it"
Fcuking hell. :joker:
The Slim Reaper
21-05-2025, 12:46 PM
Obviously you can tweet what you like if you move in certain social circles
You can also physically attack a consitutent and get a suspended sentence
Both white...but this is all about race you know....shut up you racist :laugh:
yeah, definitely facebook :smug:
Cherie
21-05-2025, 01:42 PM
Sir Keir denied knowing anything about the Jennifer Connelly case when questioned about it yesterday, this was his policy was it not...fast track, yet he had no knowledge of a women sent to prison for 30 months for a tweet she deleted herself
Pants on Fire Sir Keir
In this time of extreme pressure on prison space, it is obvious that they made an example of the woman. They said so at the time as I recall
Was watching a video yesterday about the UKs criminals, and where are they now...
One bloke, in for manslaughter, served 5 months of the sentence then got released.
Livia
21-05-2025, 02:09 PM
I read an interesting fact today. Police are now arresting people for word crime at the rate of 10,000 per year. More than Russia.
Oliver_W
21-05-2025, 02:44 PM
Her tweet warranted a chat with the police, not being locked up for over two years.
Oliver_W
21-05-2025, 02:47 PM
Was watching a video yesterday about the UKs criminals, and where are they now...
One bloke, in for manslaughter, served 5 months of the sentence then got released.
That example with no details is too broad to be meaningful; you can get manslaughter for killing your assailant.
That example with no details is too broad to be meaningful; you can get manslaughter for killing your assailant.
I cant remember much about it other than the original sentence was 3 and 3 quarter years...it was my fall asleep to video last night...will post a link after, it was interesting.
That example with no details is too broad to be meaningful; you can get manslaughter for killing your assailant.
This Is the video....I don't think it's to far into it...15yr old lad who died..
https://youtu.be/Gq11gQTwfnM?si=jdawPLT_jNtOBuO_
Cherie
21-05-2025, 03:41 PM
In this time of extreme pressure on prison space, it is obvious that they made an example of the woman. They said so at the time as I recall
As I understand it, its the mens estate that is under pressure, not a problem though, just accept some men saying they are women and hey presto problem solved :laugh:
Oliver_W
21-05-2025, 04:10 PM
As I understand it, its the mens estate that is under pressure, not a problem though, just accept some men saying they are women and hey presto problem solved :laugh:
They could give out punitive sex changes to some offenders! Really save on space in the men's prisons...
…this is a long old read/13 pages but it’s very informative also and seems to be the full case hearing of the appeal yesterday…
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf
Lucy's tweet was just a touch angry. Probably wrote something like "gosh darn it"
Fcuking hell. :joker:I doubt it was angry enough. Commenting on a monster, stabbing innocent little girls to death. I don't believe there is a limit on how angry you would be about that.
Oliver_W
21-05-2025, 07:38 PM
That's good news.
We can't encourage grown adults to think that it's okay to incite violence.
Incite? She said "for all she cares" or similar. There's no proof that the bloke who set bins on fire outside that hotel was encouraged by her.
Cherie
21-05-2025, 07:52 PM
…this is a long old read/13 pages but it’s very informative also and seems to be the full case hearing of the appeal yesterday…
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf
Interesting read, the Judge didn't really have any sympathy for her
She seems a bit silly but you can see why she was so upset at the killings given what had happened to her 19 month old, not someone most people will get over losing a child
Glenn.
21-05-2025, 07:57 PM
She sounds like an awful racist. No hang on, she IS an awful racist.
Sounds like she needs to learn how to be a decent person.
She sounds like an awful racist. No hang on, she IS an awful racist.
Sounds like she needs to learn how to be a decent person.
She probably is a decent person , but years of despair can do funny things to a person. People can become reactionary. Shea probably suffering some form of PTSD after the loss of her child.
Her lawyers seem worthless.
Glenn.
21-05-2025, 08:02 PM
She probably is a decent person , but years of despair can do funny things to a person. People can become reactionary. Shea probably suffering some form of PTSD after the loss of her child.
Her lawyers seem worthless.
PTSD makes you racist? :joker:
PTSD makes you racist? :joker:
I would say irrational.
Glenn.
21-05-2025, 08:05 PM
I would say irrational.
She wasn’t irrational. She was racist.
PTSD makes you racist? :joker:
Spose only victims in Rotherham and places like that could answer that truthfully.
Cherie
21-05-2025, 08:06 PM
Gary Linekar is racist, he even apologised for being racist, no jail time for Gazza
Is illegal immigrants a race?
Cause that's who she mentioned. No mention of any race at all in her tweet.
But she got jailed for stirring up racial hatred. Wow.
The Slim Reaper
21-05-2025, 09:08 PM
Gary Linekar is racist, he even apologised for being racist, no jail time for Gazza
Not true, but par for the course.
Mystic Mock
22-05-2025, 03:05 AM
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He didn't want people burned alive.
That's the difference.
Mystic Mock
22-05-2025, 03:09 AM
Incite? She said "for all she cares" or similar. There's no proof that the bloke who set bins on fire outside that hotel was encouraged by her.
She said that she was okay with people in the Hotels being burned alive.
In any civilized country, that is illegal to say.
And by incitement, I am on about the fact that she was potentially encouraging other people to potentially attack those Hotels.
Mystic Mock
22-05-2025, 03:12 AM
She wasn’t irrational. She was racist.
Arguably being racist is being irrational.
…in reading the court appeal transcript which gives the case a bit more clarity for me…it wasn’t just one tweet/tweets made over a few days and one of those also included the government/politicians in the ‘setting fire to…’ as well…and these tweets were made at a very volatile time when there was an extremely worrying ongoing situation not only happening but also escalating in towns…
…I do personally feel that there are multiple things with this case…I do now feel that the prison time should have been re-considered in the appeal now because there is no longer that ongoing situation and she doesn’t seem a ‘danger to the public’ she’s probably very much learned the power and weight of words and consequences…looking at the whole transcript it doesn’t feel to me that she had a very good legal representation who fully explained either about her plea and the full possible sentencing that could be given….unfortunately for Lucy, I think that she had already said that she would ‘play the card of mental health’ and she also made mention to the fact in her tweet(s) that she was in full knowledge that what she saying was very troublesome in terms of the law but she showed disregard for that…it’s a lot more detailed case than just ‘one tweet’ and even that one tweet is often not fully quoted by the media so far as the court transcript refers…but all in all, I don’t think now that it serves any purpose to not allow her out on an early release…I think with her family now is probably a much better place for ‘rehabilitation’….
…I also feel that the welfare and wellbeing of Lucy’s child should be a huge consideration with the courts as well…the impact of words yes, needs to be considered but that’s already been done at a time when there was an ‘ongoing situation’…that isn’t the case anymore and this is just creating a whole negative mindset of a justice system for her child of a system that already is very damaged in the eyes of the public…it really does feel that the person who will suffer most through this prison confinement and have the most longer lasting damage will be Lucy’s daughter…
joeysteele
22-05-2025, 07:04 AM
She said that she was okay with people in the Hotels being burned alive.
In any civilized country, that is illegal to say.
And by incitement, I am on about the fact that she was potentially encouraging other people to potentially attack those Hotels.
I agree.
The only thing I'll give her is she didn't hide her views, at least the public saw what and how she thought.
It's a pity she didn't think of her family when she purposely set out what she thought and what she'd like to see take place too.
I really hate any prejudice and people who are prejudiced.
Once I know they are, they are well out of my life.
Family, friend or even foe.
Some try to or do hide their prejudices, at least she revealed the horrible side she has and her prejudice against others.
The sentencing is a matter for the law and the court.
People cannot pick and choose what the result of committing crimes will be once charged and are guilty of the crime too.
To avoid lenient or not so lenient sentencing ALL that has to be done is not break the law in the first place.
Plus not incite others to do so too.
She chose to not avoid that.
the other difference between written word and spoken is that written word is premeditated whereas its often the case that spoken word is not. It's not easy to compare 1 offence with another because they will often be completely different under the hood
…what you’ve said bots, what Joey has said above you…both of your written words…?…just go to the layers this case is …as obviously many cases in many areas are and one size never fits all…
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2025, 09:23 AM
Lucy Connolly is a scapegoat, sacrificed to obscure the manifest failures of
multiculturalism. She should be released immediately.
Livia
22-05-2025, 09:25 AM
Lucy Connolly is a scapegoat, sacrificed to obscure the manifest failures of
multiculturalism. She should be released immediately.
The truth in a nutshell.
Cherie
22-05-2025, 09:29 AM
Gary Linekar is racist, he even apologised for being racist, no jail time for Gazza
The Met are assessing Gary's post ..I am sure no action will follow though
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/gary-lineker-police-investigation-zionism-instagram-match-of-the-day-b1228870.html
Mystic Mock
23-05-2025, 01:21 AM
I agree.
The only thing I'll give her is she didn't hide her views, at least the public saw what and how she thought.
It's a pity she didn't think of her family when she purposely set out what she thought and what she'd like to see take place too.
I really hate any prejudice and people who are prejudiced.
Once I know they are, they are well out of my life.
Family, friend or even foe.
Some try to or do hide their prejudices, at least she revealed the horrible side she has and her prejudice against others.
The sentencing is a matter for the law and the court.
People cannot pick and choose what the result of committing crimes will be once charged and are guilty of the crime too.
To avoid lenient or not so lenient sentencing ALL that has to be done is not break the law in the first place.
Plus not incite others to do so too.
She chose to not avoid that.
I 100% agree with everything you've said here Joey.
I couldn't put it across any better.
Jewish man charged for satirising Hezbollah.. it may cause upset to people protesting in support of Hezbollah, says female police officer.:facepalm:
https://youtu.be/CeOtHquWUWA?si=JqDSqcYrmJpiO-eA
Cherie
24-05-2025, 09:35 AM
Jewish man charged for satirising Hezbollah.. it may cause upset to people protesting in support of Hezbollah, says female police officer.:facepalm:
https://youtu.be/CeOtHquWUWA?si=JqDSqcYrmJpiO-eA
Dear me..:shrug:
Livia
24-05-2025, 10:01 AM
The sooner we stop criminalising people for words the sooner we can move on as a country. Right now we look like a police state. If you're going to give a Pakistani paedo rapist a lenient sentence then jail a white woman for words on the Internet it'll show the world who we are right now and frankly I'm ashamed to be British. Two Tier Kier and his two tier justice system have made us a laughing stock.
joeysteele
24-05-2025, 11:08 AM
I 100% agree with everything you've said here Joey.
I couldn't put it across any better.
Thank you Mock.
WORDS are a powerful tool and can be dangerous.
If anyone has prejudices, who then spout out those prejudices publicly, even in print too
Which if in any way can be construed as inciting or wanting harm done to others, like this lady CHOSE to post.
Then indeed, in my view, words should have consequences.
Actually setting out to post PUBLICLY vile and dangerous words, (in these times), with planned wording made before finally posting.
Then definitely that needs to be dealt with and SHOULD in my view be a crime too.
Livia
24-05-2025, 11:18 AM
Thank you Mock.
WORDS are a powerful tool and can be dangerous.
If anyone has prejudices, who then spout out those prejudices publicly, even in print too
Which if in any way can be construed as inciting or wanting harm done to others, like this lady CHOSE to post.
Then indeed, in my view, words should have consequences.
Actually setting out to post vile and dangerous words, (in these times), with planned wording made before finally posting.
Then definitely that needs to be dealt with and SHOULD in my view be a crime too.
I agree. We've had weekly marches of Palestinian supporters calling for the death of Jews. These marches have been fully supported and enabled by the Met Police who even argued when questioned that the use of a swastika is "subjective". Grooming gangs have been pretty much let off the hook so as not to upset Pakistanis particularly and Muslims in general. If people are going to be hit with the full force if the law, that law has to be seen to apply to everyone equally. Right now, it doesn't. It's a two tier system.
This woman's sentence was intentionally cruel and longer than a Pakistani man got for raping a child. I can't be the only person who thinks that is obscene.
It's all very well to be supportive of people's feelings but it doesn't work if only one section if society is protected.
Thank you Mock.
WORDS are a powerful tool and can be dangerous.
If anyone has prejudices, who then spout out those prejudices publicly, even in print too
Which if in any way can be construed as inciting or wanting harm done to others, like this lady CHOSE to post.
Then indeed, in my view, words should have consequences.
Actually setting out to post PUBLICLY vile and dangerous words, (in these times), with planned wording made before finally posting.
Then definitely that needs to be dealt with and SHOULD in my view be a crime too.
…I do agree with you, Joey…that words can have much weight and much responsibility, especially in this current world of social media escalation/misinformation etc …and I do feel at the time those words were said in this case…?…that there was an escalating highly volatile situation ongoing in many areas of the country…but I’m very, very conflicted about the value of the sentence now and the consideration of a system to consider remaining time to be served as a ‘suspended’…which would still be something set that would hopefully deter from re-offending …I think also because in my work life, I’ve been familiar with two cases that involved a parent serving prison time…I know the impact on the child of these things and that it’s something that isn’t just ‘punishing’ the separated parent…that’s an emotional aspect, I realise that…on a more practical level…a child and family will have to be given a lot of social services care through this from many agencies and much counselling, I would think…definitely for her daughter…so for a service already drained of finances…?…it’s something to consider as well that some of Lucy’s sentence may be better served on a suspended/non custodial basis…which then won’t inevitably use up a huge portion of very sparse budget…
Cherie
24-05-2025, 01:14 PM
The good news for Lucy is under the current rules she will be out in August, I know its probably an eternity if you are locked up
Cherie
24-05-2025, 01:18 PM
…I do agree with you, Joey…that words can have much weight and much responsibility, especially in this current world of social media escalation/misinformation etc …and I do feel at the time those words were said in this case…?…that there was an escalating highly volatile situation ongoing in many areas of the country…but I’m very, very conflicted about the value of the sentence now and the consideration of a system to consider remaining time to be served as a ‘suspended’…which would still be something set that would hopefully deter from re-offending …I think also because in my work life, I’ve been familiar with two cases that involved a parent serving prison time…I know the impact on the child of these things and that it’s something that isn’t just ‘punishing’ the separated parent…that’s an emotional aspect, I realise that…on a more practical level…a child and family will have to be given a lot of social services care through this from many agencies and much counselling, I would think…definitely for her daughter…so for a service already drained of finances…?…it’s something to consider as well that some of Lucy’s sentence may be better served on a suspended/non custodial basis…which then won’t inevitably use up a huge portion of very sparse budget…
Apart for her child who was obviously experiencing some separation issues, I believe her husband is undergoing treatment for bone marrow failure so it seems exceptionally cruel to deny her early release
thesheriff443
24-05-2025, 01:50 PM
Her sentence is a way to silence the masses
Mystic Mock
24-05-2025, 09:50 PM
I agree. We've had weekly marches of Palestinian supporters calling for the death of Jews. These marches have been fully supported and enabled by the Met Police who even argued when questioned that the use of a swastika is "subjective". Grooming gangs have been pretty much let off the hook so as not to upset Pakistanis particularly and Muslims in general. If people are going to be hit with the full force if the law, that law has to be seen to apply to everyone equally. Right now, it doesn't. It's a two tier system.
This woman's sentence was intentionally cruel and longer than a Pakistani man got for raping a child. I can't be the only person who thinks that is obscene.
It's all very well to be supportive of people's feelings but it doesn't work if only one section if society is protected.
1. I'll just say it, there are Paedophiles being protected by the justice system because there are Paedophiles high up within the UK Government and overall justice system. Obviously I don't know their names, but it's the reason why Paedophiles (regardless of race, sexuality, or Religion,) are getting such pathetically low sentences.
And 2. We do know that some parts of Labour have an Anti-Semitic issue due to their sympathies to Islam, they obviously need to address that problem I agree with you.
arista
25-05-2025, 11:55 PM
Sky News Text:
[The White House is "monitoring" the case
of Lucy Connolly who was jailed over a social media
post about the Southport attacks,
reports The Daily Telegraph,
which says the US development
is an escalation of free speech tensions with
Sir Keir Starmer.]
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4399f0a5-48bc-4440-8ec6-fc5b349f00d8.png
Cherie
26-05-2025, 07:45 AM
Considering last week Starmer said on camera he was not aware of her case, this is quiet the turnaround, I am sure he knows about it now :laugh:
Cherie
21-08-2025, 09:46 AM
Free today finally
Maybe she should have strangled her husband instead she would never see pokey ...oh wait
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/lucy-connolly-released-from-prison/ar-AA1KWdPz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68a6eb064f4a427f94d633592915d6da&ei=10
Crimson Dynamo
21-08-2025, 09:48 AM
This case will forever be the noose around Starmers neck when his sorry legacy is revealed
Cherie
21-08-2025, 10:07 AM
This case will forever be the noose around Starmers neck when his sorry legacy is revealed
A controversy has emerged over Sir Keir Starmer's backing of the prosecution as during his tenure as director of public prosecutions in 2013, he issued guidance suggesting prosecutors should take a more lenient view when suspects quickly removed offensive posts and showed authentic regret.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-in-hypocrisy-row-after-pms-own-guidelines-should-have-spared-lucy-connolly-from-jail/ar-AA1KU3m2
Crimson Dynamo
21-08-2025, 10:27 AM
Dan Wootton Outspoken
36 minutes ago
Lucy Connolly is a hero. She is you, she is me.
And, thank God, after 380 days in living hell, she is finally free.
I was the first to describe Lucy as Slippery Starmer's political prisoner.
At the time, the entire MSM - including the Mail, GB News and Talk TV - were horrendously deriding her as a "far right racist" and joining the pitch fork waving mob.
Like Epping, it's been the independent media - and the brilliant and brave @AllisonPearson - who has told her real story.
Now she becomes this authoritarian government's worst nightmare.
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Don’t get me started on Dan Whooton !!!
He’s a total imbecile with soooo many skeletons in his cupboards
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Mystic Mock
22-08-2025, 01:11 AM
This case will forever be the noose around Starmers neck when his sorry legacy is revealed
Don't forget his age verification nonsense.
Mystic Mock
22-08-2025, 01:13 AM
A controversy has emerged over Sir Keir Starmer's backing of the prosecution as during his tenure as director of public prosecutions in 2013, he issued guidance suggesting prosecutors should take a more lenient view when suspects quickly removed offensive posts and showed authentic regret.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-in-hypocrisy-row-after-pms-own-guidelines-should-have-spared-lucy-connolly-from-jail/ar-AA1KU3m2
Is someone pulling the strings behind the scenes and letting Starmer take all of the blame?
Mystic Mock
22-08-2025, 01:15 AM
Don’t get me started on Dan Whooton !!!
He’s a total imbecile with soooo many skeletons in his cupboards
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I agree with you.
Crimson Dynamo
22-08-2025, 11:49 AM
Dan Wootton
DANwootton
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She’s finally free - and ready to speak!
Slippery Starmer has failed to silence Lucy Connolly.
Stand by for news.
@AllisonPearson
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Glenn.
22-08-2025, 11:50 AM
Aligning herself with DAN WOOTON :joker:
She should have got a longer sentence
"Slippery Starmer has failed to silence Lucy Connolly."
:skull: It was her racist hate filled opinions that got her silenced in the first place, maybe she should just be quiet for the sake of her child.
joeysteele
22-08-2025, 04:37 PM
Barely a third of her sentence served.
I hope however she's watched and monitored to see if she commits her hate filled prejudice again.
However it would be nice to think, she may consider her despicable thinking and how she expresses it, as to how it may also affect her children and family.
Something she didn't give a damn about before.
Crimson Dynamo
22-08-2025, 04:40 PM
Woman of the year.
It's great to see her out and I will look forward to hearing from her going forward
Crimson Dynamo
22-08-2025, 05:25 PM
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Rupert Lowe MP
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1h
Lucy Connolly is one very brave woman.
Petition to stop calling people who say they don't care is other people burn to death brave x
Crimson Dynamo
22-08-2025, 05:58 PM
BREAKING: Lucy Connolly reveals she was Keir Starmer’s political prisoner & is now
planning legal action against the police, as she prepares to meet with Trump
administration officials tomorrow to blow whistle on UK free speech crackdown.
Watch her Outspoken first interview.
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https://x.com/danwootton/status/1958916333296656884
Cherie
22-08-2025, 06:26 PM
I did wonder if she would sue
Watched it last night. It made me angry.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 08:02 AM
I've absolutely no time for this woman whatsoever.
Not one scrap.
arista
23-08-2025, 08:04 AM
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arista
23-08-2025, 08:06 AM
I've absolutely no time for this woman whatsoever.
Not one scrap.
Thats Fine
But should she have served less time
for her 12 year old daughter's sake
Thats Fine
But should she have served less time
for her 12 year old daughter's sake
Why does someone having child make them immune to serving a certain jail sentence for committing a crime and admitting to it?
For the charges she pleaded guilty to carry a minimum sentence of 3 years. She got the shortest sentence she possibly could.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 08:18 AM
Thats Fine
But should she have served less time
for her 12 year old daughter's sake
Absolutely not.
In my view, she shouldnt likely be out now.
She doesn't appear to have learned anything.
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 08:19 AM
What is the moron suing for exactly? She pleaded guilty.
Awful woman
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 08:22 AM
🚨BREAKING: Lucy Connolly will meet with Trump White House officials to reveal truth about her case and lack of free speech in UK.
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Glenn.
23-08-2025, 08:30 AM
:joker: :joker: :joker:
arista
23-08-2025, 08:35 AM
Why does someone having child make them immune to serving a certain jail sentence for committing a crime and admitting to it?
For the charges she pleaded guilty to carry a minimum sentence of 3 years. She got the shortest sentence she possibly could.
No
still serve a sentence
but not as long
As she was guilty
arista
23-08-2025, 08:38 AM
She has given an interview in the Telegraph
Good, she deleted her tweet
Which is better than what Online Only Dan
can give
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 08:43 AM
Lucy and Ray, happier times
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Ignoring the government's tyranny because you dont like a person is only good for the tyranny to continue unabated.
arista
23-08-2025, 08:46 AM
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Why does someone having child make them immune to serving a certain jail sentence for committing a crime and admitting to it?
For the charges she pleaded guilty to carry a minimum sentence of 3 years. She got the shortest sentence she possibly could.
That's not how it happened..if she hadn't pled guilty she would have got 4.5 years...she pled guilty, bit the judge still started h8s sentencing at 4.5 years, then reduced for the guilty plea to 3.
He could have started at 3, then reduced for the guilty plea.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 09:07 AM
She has given an interview in the Telegraph
Good, she deleted her tweet
Which is better than what Online Only Dan
can give
Actually no, I disagree.
What would have been good from her would have been to have considered her family FIRST and rather than have to delete a post she voluntary and planned to post, to have actually never posted such a worded post in the first place.
Because of that I have not a scrap of sympathy for her or liking of her, for the vile and despicable wording she used in her post.
What she stands for from her own inner prejudice.
It should be of no surprise that a creep like Dan Wootton would be supportive of her.
Wasn't she considering her dead child and how the nhs was complicit in its death when she made the tweet.
A natural action from a mother already let down by the state as she watches the Southport attack on all those other children that were also let down by the state, who had that evil bastard on its watchlists.
arista
23-08-2025, 09:18 AM
Actually no, I disagree.
What would have been good from her would have been to have considered her family FIRST and rather than have to delete a post she voluntary and planned to post, to have actually never posted such a worded post in the first place.
Because of that I have not a scrap of sympathy for her or liking of her, for the vile and despicable wording she used in her post.
What she stands for from her own inner prejudice.
It should be of no surprise that a creep like Dan Wootton would be supportive of her.
Of course.
But she is in today's Respected Telegraph newspaper
A moment of madness to post on Twitter.
You had the wrong info at that time.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 09:23 AM
Of course.
But she is in today's Respected Telegraph newspaper
A moment of madness to post on Twitter.
You had the wrong info at that time.
:joker::joker: oh come on, respected Telegraph publication.
It's one of the most ridiculously biased publications ever and particularly against any government that's not Conservative.
Why people waste in excess of £500 yearly buying it astounds me, they must have money to burn.
Of course it will give her a platform, hardly a surprise.
I'm surprised it wasn't the Daily Mail actually.
arista
23-08-2025, 09:32 AM
"oh come on, respected Telegraph publication"
They have more respect than Online Only Dan
It's what I Say
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 09:47 AM
But Mrs Connolly said Mr Jones, who had walked free from court, had rightly
not deserved to go to jail either. She said: “I’m pleased that the justice system
did work for Ricky Jones and I’m glad that he was able to get bail and he was
able to get good legal advice and have time to stop and think about how he was
going to plead. I wasn’t given that luxury.
“I don’t advocate that we should be throwing anyone in jail for saying…
something that he shouldn’t have done. It was silly. Does it really make him a
criminal? Should we be putting people like him and I in prison? Absolutely not.”
Cherie
23-08-2025, 10:18 AM
But Mrs Connolly said Mr Jones, who had walked free from court, had rightly
not deserved to go to jail either. She said: “I’m pleased that the justice system
did work for Ricky Jones and I’m glad that he was able to get bail and he was
able to get good legal advice and have time to stop and think about how he was
going to plead. I wasn’t given that luxury.
“I don’t advocate that we should be throwing anyone in jail for saying…
something that he shouldn’t have done. It was silly. Does it really make him a
criminal? Should we be putting people like him and I in prison? Absolutely not.”
Very gracious of her, he had plenty time to get good counsel, she was railroaded in and probably told she would get off as she had no previous if she pleaded guilty which would be the norm, look at the Welsh guy who choked and kicked his girlfriend, no previous was taken into account and a suspended sentence handed out, she was definately made an example of.... and it was criminal to take away a mother from her child for that length of time, they could have given her 6 weeks it would still have had the same impact, I wish her well, I think she will make alot of money off the back of her dubious celebrity
Oliver_W
23-08-2025, 11:04 AM
Why does someone having child make them immune to serving a certain jail sentence for committing a crime and admitting to it?
For the charges she pleaded guilty to carry a minimum sentence of 3 years. She got the shortest sentence she possibly could.
Tbh it should have been a suspended sentence.
No way was what she did bad enough to warrant jail time.
Vanessa
23-08-2025, 12:46 PM
Tbh it should have been a suspended sentence.
No way was what she did bad enough to warrant jail time.
Yes I agree. She did not deserve to go to jail. I hope she uses and wins.
That's not how it happened..if she hadn't pled guilty she would have got 4.5 years...
IF found guilty. Any decent lawyer would have been able to get her off on a jury trial.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 02:10 PM
Men got 4 YEARS for chopping a tree down.
This woman got far less for posting it was acceptable to burn human beings alive in a building, from her prejudice against those people.
Yet she gets support.
That really speaks volumes that this Country is really going into dangerously ugly prejudiced depths.
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 02:22 PM
Watching her interviews, well no actually, watching her be used by the right wing as their poster girl whilst telling everyone she’s Starmers poster girl just confirms she has zero remorse for what she posted. She’s also not very bright.
Oliver_W
23-08-2025, 02:28 PM
Men got 4 YEARS for chopping a tree down.
Disgusting act of vandalism and destroying an iconic part of Northern England. Should have gotten longer.
What they did caused actual, material, real world damage. They didn't write some mean words (which were soon deleted).
Cherie
23-08-2025, 02:30 PM
Watching her interviews, well no actually, watching her be used by the right wing as their poster girl whilst telling everyone she’s Starmers poster girl just confirms she has zero remorse for what she posted. She’s also not very bright.
Just watched snippets of her interview with Alisson Pearson, she seems very articulate, she is not media trained, so not sure what brings you to that conclusion
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 02:35 PM
Just watched snippets of her interview, she seems very articulate, she is not media trained, so not sure what brings you to that conclusion
Maybe watch more than snippets
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 02:41 PM
Maybe watch more than snippets
why are you watching the full interview?
:conf:
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 02:45 PM
why are you watching the full interview?
:conf:
I like to be informed so I can form actual opinions. Surely you’ve watched the full interview given the over the top support you seem to have shown her? :conf:
I like to be informed so I can form actual opinions.
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Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 02:57 PM
I like to be informed so I can form actual opinions.
That is exactly as I thought
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Glenn.
23-08-2025, 03:00 PM
I wonder why you haven’t watched it? :conf:
Cherie
23-08-2025, 03:56 PM
Maybe watch more than snippets
So you can't answer the question?
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 05:11 PM
So you can't answer the question?
You don’t even know the question. You haven’t watched it.
But let’s be real, she’s not off to a good start because of what got her in the mess to begin with.
Or would you disagree and say wanting hotels with human beings inside burned down is something a clever person would say?
IF found guilty. Any decent lawyer would have been able to get her off on a jury trial.
Not under starmers commands they wouldn't..100 percent she would still be in jail if she had pled not guilty..probably at this moment in time just starting a legnthy sentence after spending months on remand awaiting trial.
She speaks about all this during the interview
Cherie
23-08-2025, 06:51 PM
Anyway I am going to watch her interview with Allison when I get a chance and see how bright she is or isn't
Glenn.
23-08-2025, 06:55 PM
Just remember you’re not measuring how ‘bright’ she is, you’re watching how well a convicted racist can perform when given a platform
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:01 PM
I've absolutely no time for this woman whatsoever.
Not one scrap.
She's definitely giving off a bad vibe associating herself with Dan Wootton.
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:07 PM
Men got 4 YEARS for chopping a tree down.
This woman got far less for posting it was acceptable to burn human beings alive in a building, from her prejudice against those people.
Yet she gets support.
That really speaks volumes that this Country is really going into dangerously ugly prejudiced depths.
People got 4 years for chopping a tree down, are you serious?
That's more than what some rapists get.
Oliver_W
23-08-2025, 07:34 PM
People got 4 years for chopping a tree down, are you serious?
That's more than what some rapists get.
The problem there is how little the legsl system regards rape victims.
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 07:40 PM
People got 4 years for chopping a tree down, are you serious?
That's more than what some rapists get.
No they did not just chop a tree down
That is both silly and trying to deflect for nefarious reasons
A very poorly put tactic
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:46 PM
The problem there is how little the legsl system regards rape victims.
Too true.
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:46 PM
No they did not just chop a tree down
That is both silly and trying to deflect for nefarious reasons
A very poorly put tactic
But if I remember correctly, weren't the Tree dying anyway?
Crimson Dynamo
23-08-2025, 07:50 PM
But if I remember correctly, weren't the Tree dying anyway?
Would you smother your Gran because she was ill?
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:51 PM
Would you smother your Gran because she was ill?
No.
But James Sunderland might.
joeysteele
23-08-2025, 07:52 PM
People got 4 years for chopping a tree down, are you serious?
That's more than what some rapists get.
It was a special tree in a special place admittedly Mock
However yes, both got 4 years for that.
I guess if this woman had said burn alive others not of other countries or cultures, then she'd be more universally condemned.
However because she said from her prejudice it would be fine to burn alive some humans from other countries and cultures.
She's more a heroine to some in the UK now.
That to me is far more worrying than the loss of a tree.
You can plant another tree, you cannot bring back to life anyone burned alive.
Mystic Mock
23-08-2025, 07:56 PM
It was a special tree in a special place admittedly Mock
However yes, both got 4 years for that.
I guess if this woman had said burn alive others not of other countries or cultures, then she'd be more universally condemned.
However because she said from her prejudice it would be fine to burn alive some humans from other countries and cultures.
She's more a heroine to some in the UK now.
That to me is far more worrying than the loss of a tree.
You can plant another tree, you cannot bring back to life anyone burned alive.
Ultimately I do agree with you, and the BIB is the reason why.
Cherie
23-08-2025, 10:50 PM
Just remember you’re not measuring how ‘bright’ she is, you’re watching how well a convicted racist can perform when given a platform
How confusing, you said she wasn't very bright,now you are saying she performed well in the interview :crazy: Make your mind up!
Anyway I am going to watch her interview with Allison when I get a chance and see how bright she is or isn't
The Liverpool goalie?
Just remember you’re not measuring how ‘bright’ she is, you’re watching how well a convicted racist can perform when given a platform
Innocent people have hung before. It's why they stopped it in the UK. To many people enjoyed watching the performance without the platform.
AI says, 87 percent of historical world events of people enjoying the suffering of others are lefties.
Would you smother your Gran because she was ill?
I would if she had asked me to do it when the pain got to much.
Oliver_W
24-08-2025, 07:16 AM
She's more a heroine to some in the UK now.
Only because of her needless arrest, and subsequent being made an example of.
If the correct thing (nothing) had happened after she deleted the tweet, we'd all be none the wiser as to who she is.
joeysteele
24-08-2025, 08:00 AM
Only because of her needless arrest, and subsequent being made an example of.
If the correct thing (nothing) had happened after she deleted the tweet, we'd all be none the wiser as to who she is.
She should have NEVER planned, typed and then publicly posted the tweet in the first place.
Plus neither you or I were able to see all the evidence presented in her case.
Deleting it after putting it out in the public domain is all well and good but does NOT alter that she premeditated doing the tweet and voluntarily posted it.
With it's despicable content.
No way would she get any sympathy from me for her hateful and vile personal prejudiced thinking.
Oliver_W
24-08-2025, 08:07 AM
She should have NEVER planned, typed and then publicly posted the tweet in the first place.
Plus neither you or I were able to see all the evidence presented in her case.
Deleting it after putting it out in the public domain is all well and good but does NOT alter that she premeditated doing the tweet and voluntarily posted it.
With it's despicable content.
No way would she get any sympathy from me for her hateful and vile personal prejudiced thinking.
I don't have any particular sympathy for her, but that's not needed to think her arrest was unneeded ... especially as it allowed her to become a martyr to some.
Cherie
24-08-2025, 08:51 AM
The Liverpool goalie?
:laugh:
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 09:06 AM
How confusing, you said she wasn't very bright,now you are saying she performed well in the interview :crazy: Make your mind up!
Still haven’t watched it then?
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 09:06 AM
Innocent people have hung before. It's why they stopped it in the UK. To many people enjoyed watching the performance without the platform.
AI says, 87 percent of historical world events of people enjoying the suffering of others are lefties.
She wasn’t innocent. She pleaded GUILTY
Crimson Dynamo
24-08-2025, 09:10 AM
'The lesson is nearly always plead not guilty, but come to the Free Speech Union straight
away.'
External Affairs Officer at the Free Speech Union, Connie Shaw highlights the key
takeaways from Lucy Conolly's recent interviews after being released from prison.
Good 3 min interview is here: https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1959131692645421466
Cherie
24-08-2025, 09:46 AM
Still haven’t watched it then?
Wrong again
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 09:48 AM
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Cherie
24-08-2025, 09:56 AM
So I have watched the interview in full now
My thoughts are Lucy is articulate, bright, confident and comes across as very honest in her assessment of what has happened to her, she agrees she should not have said what she did, but she took it down, it beggars belief that she got the sentence she did and that there was no mitigation for the fact that her 19 month old son died needlessly at the hands of the NHS and that she had to fight for years to get justice for his death which to any Judge would indicate that she was left scarred by the experience. I have little doubt this is the last we have seen of Lucy, Starmer can go on and on about black holes but he needlessly kept Lucy in prison at the taxpayers expense for a year, depriving her 12 year old daughter of her mother, while domestic abusers, rapists etc either walk away scot free or get early release to relieve the over crowded prison estate, I fully believe her when she says 80 per cent of the female estate do not deserve to be behind bars. Given she is not media trained she gave a brilliant interview, and was far more honest and believable than alot of our MPs past and present. I would not be surprised to see her run as an MP and she would be the perfect candidate to oversee prison reform.....she is a fighter took on the NHS and won and she will be forever a thorn in Starmers side for sure.
Cherie
24-08-2025, 09:57 AM
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Crimson Dynamo
24-08-2025, 09:59 AM
So I have watched the interview in full now
My thoughts are Lucy is articulate, bright, confident and comes across as very honest in her assessment of what has happened to her, she agrees she should not have said what she did, but she took it down, it beggars belief that she got the sentence she did and that there was no mitigation for the fact that her 19 month old son died needlessly at the hands of the NHS and that she had to fight for years to get justice for his death which to any Judge would indicate that she was left scarred by the experience. I have little doubt this is the last we have seen of Lucy, Starmer can go on and on about black holes but he needlessly kept Lucy in prison at the taxpayers expense for a year, depriving her 12 year old daughter of her mother, while domestic abusers, rapists etc either walk away scot free or get early release to relieve the over crowded prison estate, I fully believe her when she says 80 per cent of the female estate do not deserve to be behind bars. Given she is not media trained she gave a brilliant interview, and was far more honest and believable than alot of our MPs past and present. I would not be surprised to see her run as an MP and she would be the perfect candidate to oversee prison reform.....she is a fighter took on the NHS and won and she will be forever a thorn in Starmers side for sure.
A very brave lady that the vast majority of the great British Public agree was treated very badly.
Cherie
24-08-2025, 10:00 AM
A very brave lady that the vast majority of the great British Public agree was treated very badly.
Agreed
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 10:36 AM
You’d also think she’d want to spend time with the children she was blocked from seeing too. Less than 24hrs after completing less than 40% of her sentence she was being paraded by the far right.
Come on guys
joeysteele
24-08-2025, 10:40 AM
I don't have any particular sympathy for her, but that's not needed to think her arrest was unneeded ... especially as it allowed her to become a martyr to some.
Well definitely I'll agree with you that she is now looking like a martyr to some.
Which actually to me is really nauseating.
She never considered her family one bit when she planned and typed then posted her grossly despicable prejudiced tweet.
In my view she got what she deserved.
Her thinking was more likely her real thinking in that tweet and I detest prejudice.
However yes, it's astounding anyone can see her as a martyr as you've rightly pointed is what she's become to some who possibly think like she does too.
Who knows.
What she really is however, is a criminal, now with a criminal record.
Which in my own opinion, is the right outcome all round for her vile prejudice.
Cherie
24-08-2025, 10:42 AM
You’d also think she’d want to spend time with the children she was blocked from seeing too. Less than 24hrs after completing less than 40% of her sentence she was being paraded by the far right.
Come on guys
If you watched the interview you would know she took her daughter (she only has one child) shopping for her 13th Birthday as soon as she got out of prison, I don't think any parent spends 24 hours of the day with their children, do you know any that do? paraded by the FAR RIGHT...Alison Pearson :joker:
Crimson Dynamo
24-08-2025, 10:45 AM
Nigel Farage to champion Lucy Connolly’s story at US Congress
Reform UK leader to discuss the case when testifying about freedom of expression in the UK
Nigel Farage will tell Lucy Connolly’s story to key allies of Donald Trump when he gives evidence at a free speech hearing in the US next month.
The Reform UK leader will travel to Washington in early September to testify to members of Congress about threats to freedom of expression in Britain.
He is set to bring up the case of Mrs Connolly, who was released from prison last week after being jailed for 31 months over a social media post in the aftermath of the Southport attacks.
Mr Farage said the case of Mrs Connolly, who after her release described herself as a political prisoner, would be “a very central point of what I’m discussing”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/23/reform-uk-nigel-farage-lucy-connolly-story-us-congress/
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 10:46 AM
If you watched the interview you would know she took her daughter (she only has one child) shopping for her 13th Birthday as soon as she got out of prison, I don't think any parent spends 24 hours of the day with their children, do you know any that do? paraded by the FAR RIGHT...Alison Pearson :joker:
Don’t most parents??? Most parents don’t spend a year in prison for racial hatred though.
Doting mother has been away from her family for a year, then proceeds to do a press tour. Come off it hun
Crimson Dynamo
24-08-2025, 10:54 AM
If you watched the interview you would know she took her daughter (she only has one child) shopping for her 13th Birthday as soon as she got out of prison, I don't think any parent spends 24 hours of the day with their children, do you know any that do? paraded by the FAR RIGHT...Alison Pearson :joker:
Maybe chatgpt missed that bit :joker:
AI still fallible
Cherie
24-08-2025, 10:56 AM
Don’t most parents??? Most parents don’t spend a year in prison for racial hatred though.
Doting mother has been away from her family for a year, then proceeds to do a press tour. Come off it hun
She was interviewed at her mothers home :facepalm:
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 11:00 AM
She was interviewed at her mothers home :facepalm:
Where she should be making up the lost time with her poor children no?
Kate!
24-08-2025, 11:13 AM
Bloody hell the hard hearted lack of compassion and contempt in this thread.
And the tweet wasn't planned. She did it on the spur of the moment and took it down quickly. She's a decent women who said something in a moment of madness, and was told to plead guilty. Negligence on the part of her legal representation.
Poor Lucy.
Crimson Dynamo
24-08-2025, 11:19 AM
Bloody hell the hard hearted lack of compassion and contempt in this thread.
And the tweet wasn't planned. She did it on the spur of the moment and took it down quickly. She's a decent women who said something in a moment of madness, and was told to plead guilty. Negligence on the part of her legal representation.
Poor Lucy.
Well said
Cherie
24-08-2025, 11:29 AM
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Cherie
24-08-2025, 11:33 AM
Bloody hell the hard hearted lack of compassion and contempt in this thread.
And the tweet wasn't planned. She did it on the spur of the moment and took it down quickly. She's a decent women who said something in a moment of madness, and was told to plead guilty. Negligence on the part of her legal representation.
Poor Lucy.
She addresses her guilty plea in her interview, she said she was trying to get back to her child asap, apparently lawyers were telling her husband to plead not guilty, but she was on remand and didn't want to have to wait for a trial so pleaded guilty to try and get out sooner, unlike Ricky Jones who had the luxury of not being remanded so pled not guilty as he would await his trial from the comfort of his own home
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 11:34 AM
The far right really will excuse anything huh
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 11:40 AM
She addresses her guilty plea in her interview, she said she was trying to get back to her child asap, apparently lawyers were telling her husband to plead not guilty, but she was on remand and didn't want to have to wait for a trial so pleaded guilty to try and get out sooner, unlike Ricky Jones who had the luxury of not being remanded so pled not guilty as he would await his trial from the comfort of his own home
There is misunderstanding over why she pled guilty btw - it's not because she was promised a lenient sentence or was pressured, it's because she freely confessed immediately after being arrested without talking to a lawyer.
As a result she had literally no defence at trial.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 11:41 AM
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Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:10 PM
Well said
Yes it was, wasn't it. We should all have compassion.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:11 PM
Where was her compassion for the asylum seekers she wanted to burn?
At least make it make sense :joker:
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:14 PM
Where was her compassion for the asylum seekers she wanted to burn?
At least make it make sense :joker:
Sigh. It makes perfect sense. She said it in the heat of the moment. Little children senseless slain, it's bound to infuriate. She removed it asap. The was no planning.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:14 PM
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Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:15 PM
Sigh. It makes perfect sense. She said it in the heat of the moment. Little children senseless slain, it's bound to infuriate. She removed it asap. The was no planning.
It makes sense for someone to post about burning down hotels? Jesus Christ
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:18 PM
It makes sense for someone to post about burning down hotels? Jesus Christ
Yes, in light of what had happened. Some sick fecker slaying innocent beautiful children. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would be incensed. She saw red. Then she removed it. It's called humanity.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:20 PM
Yes, in light of what had happened. Some sick fecker slaying innocent beautiful children. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would be incensed. She saw red. Then she removed it. It's called humanity.
I didn’t tweet anything like it. Did you?
Cherie
24-08-2025, 12:22 PM
Yes, in light of what had happened. Some sick fecker slaying innocent beautiful children. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would be incensed. She saw red. Then she removed it. It's called humanity.
Yes not like the robotic Far Left, well said Kate
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:22 PM
:joker: :joker: :joker:
Cherie
24-08-2025, 12:23 PM
It would be great if the thread could remain open, have a great day folks
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:23 PM
:joker: :joker: :joker:
What's funny about a vulnerable women being jailed for far too long? The system stinks.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:24 PM
What's funny about a vulnerable women being jailed for far too long? The system stinks.
She’s not vulnerable :joker:
I can make this whole situation real simple for the hard of understanding.
She is a proven racist criminal, pled guilty, found guilty.
Any person or media saying otherwise is either manipulating you, an idiot and / or a racist themselves.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:26 PM
She’s not vulnerable :joker:
I can make this whole situation real simple for the hard of understanding.
She is a proven racist criminal, pled guilty, found guilty.
Any person or media saying otherwise is either manipulating you, an idiot and / or a racist themselves.
She's neither racist nor a criminal in my eyes. The vast majority see it the same way. You're in a minority.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:27 PM
I hope Lucy makes a lot of money telling her story if she's not gagged. She deserves compensation. She shouldn't have gotten anymore than a rap on the knuckles.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:27 PM
She's neither racist nor a criminal in my eyes. The vast majority see it the same way. You're in a minority.
Well as a Trump supporter and a reform voter that’s not exactly news is it :joker:
Sigh.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:28 PM
Well as a Trump supporter and a reform voter that’s not exactly news is it :joker:
Sigh.
Sigh all you want.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:32 PM
In fact, the court was told that the day before she was arrested, Connolly had sent a WhatsApp message saying the “raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol”. She also said she’d “play the mental health card” if arrested, and would deny responsibility for the post if asked.
“She has mental health issues”
:skull:
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:35 PM
Rather support people like Lucy and my choice of politicians than murdering bastards who should never have been here, and the bloody Labour Party and it's acolytes who still support them despite them being scum and ruining our lovely country.
Oliver_W
24-08-2025, 12:35 PM
Yes, in light of what had happened. Some sick fecker slaying innocent beautiful children. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would be incensed. She saw red. Then she removed it. It's called humanity.
She's someone who lost a son who was like 18 months old to boot.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:36 PM
She's someone who lost a son who was like 18 months old to boot.
Absolutely Oliver, no wonder she cracked when writing that tweet.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:36 PM
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Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:37 PM
Rather support people like Lucy and my choice of politicians than murdering bastards who should never have been here, and the bloody Labour Party and it's acolytes who still support them despite them being scum and ruining our lovely country.
Who are the murdering bastards?
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:37 PM
SHE REMOVED IT.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:38 PM
Who are the murdering bastards?
Axel Rudakabana and the likes
joeysteele
24-08-2025, 12:38 PM
She’s not vulnerable :joker:
I can make this whole situation real simple for the hard of understanding.
She is a proven racist criminal, pled guilty, found guilty.
Any person or media saying otherwise is either manipulating you, an idiot and / or a racist themselves.
I'm saying one last thing on this as I'm stunned at the supporting of this vile individual.
I guess we do learn something every day about people.
However I agree with every word you've said in your post above.
There is NO excusing her, plus never mind her original day in court.
She had an appeal heard too, which was equally on the hard evidence provided, leaving the sentence in place.
She is in effect the real kind of people whose opinions the UK would be better without in my opinion.
Absolutely for me.
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:41 PM
There's no excusing her?? Of course there flipping well is. Others have done far worse and nothing has been done.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 12:43 PM
Rather support people like Lucy and my choice of politicians than murdering bastards who should never have been here, and the bloody Labour Party and it's acolytes who still support them despite them being scum and ruining our lovely country.
…..
Kate!
24-08-2025, 12:45 PM
Team Reform. Team Lucy Connolly.
Get Labour Scum out. Lucy was a political prisoner. Starmer even pretended he didn't even know about her case. Lying Scum.
Glenn.
24-08-2025, 01:06 PM
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Glenn.
24-08-2025, 01:08 PM
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