Facebook badly underestimates the fanbase of Jojo

[vesavius]

I see it again and again there... "JoJo who?"

The fact is though she is rolling in with a big active fanbase and even those, like me, not really in it she has a lot of goodwill for her from Dance Moms and her other projects. Plus, she is very X friendly in her identity... If she has the awareness to lowkey turn it into a social crusade she could easily be carried a long way

I actually think she will go far in this. Maybe even win.

But, JoJo, saying that, your fans didn't name you the 'CEO of gaypop', you 100% named yourself that :laugh::laugh:

[Zizu]

I see it again and again there... "JoJo who?"

The fact is though she is rolling in with a big active fanbase and even those, like me, not really in it she has a lot of goodwill for her from Dance Moms and her other projects.

I actually think she will go far in this. Maybe even win.

But, JoJo, saying that, your fans didn't name you the 'CEO of gaypop', you 100% named yourself that :laugh::laugh:


A big online fan base may not translate to a uk audience !?!?

Never heard of her

[Niamh.]

A big online fan base may not translate to a uk audience !?!?

Never heard of her

I would say most of the audience under 30 will have heard of her at least, I'm 46 and had heard of her

[vesavius]

A big online fan base may not translate to a uk audience !?!?


Ahh, first post back and it's a contrary one from Zizu. It's like I never left :joker:

But, sure, it might not, but it also will not hurt.

[Beso]

Shes also very likeable.

[Ammi]

…she’s not someone who I’m familiar with but I got a nice/joyful vibe from her at the launch…:love:…and hey, hey you…:love:…always good to see your face on season…

[GlitterUK]

She impressed me from launch night. Not heard of her but she got Mickey up doing the conga which was fun.

[Niamh.]

I know her mostly from seeing cringey shorts on youtube so it'll be interesting to see how she is on the show eg :

tVgMBo0q0js

[vesavius]

…she’s not someone who I’m familiar with but I got a nice/joyful vibe from her at the launch…:love:…and hey, hey you…:love:…always good to see your face on season…

helloo, ty :love:

I don't usually do Celeb, must admit, but I'm in the mood this year :dance:

[Niamh.]

helloo, ty :love:

I don't usually do Celeb, must admit, but I'm in the mood this year :dance:

It's a great cast i think this time

[vesavius]

I know her mostly from seeing cringey shorts on youtube so it'll be interesting to see how she is on the show eg :

tVgMBo0q0js

Do not underestimate this girl's potential for absolute car crash telly :joker:

[vesavius]

It's a great cast i think this time

I was really impressed with how actually strong it is...

ITV seem ready to spend a bit of money to try and get this to work.

[Niamh.]

Do not underestimate this girl's potential for absolute car crash telly :joker:

I've got my fingers and toes crossed for it :fan:

I was really impressed with how actually strong it is...

ITV seem ready to spend a bit of money to try and get this to work.

Yeah, I enjoyed the launch but I can't wait to actually get into the shows and seeing how they all fair in there

[Ammi]

helloo, ty :love:

I don't usually do Celeb, must admit, but I'm in the mood this year :dance:

…yeah actually I didn’t think we would get many BB regular seasoned people for the celebrity version because that just doesn’t attract in the same way and it’s such a short run, isn’t it…but I think it’s telling of the strong cast of housemates that you and others are coming back for this…plus, you just couldn’t wait a moment longer to see us all again…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Never heard of her but from what I can gather she is fully captured by woke ideology which is a shame but she is only young and will hopefully grow out of it

:fc:

[GlitterUK]

I feel like AJ and Will are finding there feet more also where as some people found them a turn off at first.

[vesavius]

I feel like AJ and Will are finding there feet more also where as some people found them a turn off at first.

Honestly, Will was always strong, but AJ is far better now.

[Cherie]

She impressed me from launch night. Not heard of her but she got Mickey up doing the conga which was fun.

Mickey knew he had to join in

He said when they were sitting in the group at the end that he had been 'ordered' to join in with what they were doing....and they were doing the conga when he went it, it was also clear he had been told to jump up and volunteer to go into the prize room..... he is a bit like Louis last year, not really caring he is letting the cat out of the bag

[Vanessa]

She has a massive fan base. At the launch all the younger audience members were cheering for her.
Massive reaction from the crowd in general

[Quantum Boy]

She was absolutely massive from 2015-2020, spent a small fortune on "JoJo Bows", I imagine like my daughter a lot of her fanbase "outgrew her" (at 16 she would be MORTIFIED for people to know she was a JoJo Siwa fan when she was a little kid) however... it is long enough ago that she probably has both a current following, and a cohort who will view her as "nostalgic". It's worked in the past e.g. Geordie Shore cast winners, where the "wider audience" initially had no clue who they were.

[Zizu]

She was absolutely massive from 2015-2020, spent a small fortune on "JoJo Bows", I imagine like my daughter a lot of her fanbase "outgrew her" (at 16 she would be MORTIFIED for people to know she was a JoJo Siwa fan when she was a little kid) however... it is long enough ago that she probably has both a current following, and a cohort who will view her as "nostalgic". It's worked in the past e.g. Geordie Shore cast winners, where the "wider audience" initially had no clue who they were.


Honestly, never ever heard of her

[Niamh.]

She was absolutely massive from 2015-2020, spent a small fortune on "JoJo Bows", I imagine like my daughter a lot of her fanbase "outgrew her" (at 16 she would be MORTIFIED for people to know she was a JoJo Siwa fan when she was a little kid) however... it is long enough ago that she probably has both a current following, and a cohort who will view her as "nostalgic". It's worked in the past e.g. Geordie Shore cast winners, where the "wider audience" initially had no clue who they were.

I missed her at that point because my kids were too old by then, I've only heard of her since her turning bad era :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The reality is she cant be anything remotely special to do CBB

:joker:

[vesavius]

The reality is she cant be anything remotely special to do CBB

:joker:

Well, she has made around $20 million being nothing special so I guess she is ok with that. :shrug:

[Jordan.]

She has a net worth of 20M at age 21. Doing this show is just a side quest for her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, she has made around $20 million being nothing special so I guess she is ok with that. :shrug:

well she must have spent it on sh1t because she sure needs the money now

:joker:

[vesavius]

well she must have spent it on sh1t because she sure needs the money now

:joker:

Nah, this is just promotional stuff for her music and whatnot. I doubt that it's about the money at all.

I am curious what they paid her to do it though.

[vesavius]

She was absolutely massive from 2015-2020, spent a small fortune on "JoJo Bows", I imagine like my daughter a lot of her fanbase "outgrew her" (at 16 she would be MORTIFIED for people to know she was a JoJo Siwa fan when she was a little kid) however... it is long enough ago that she probably has both a current following, and a cohort who will view her as "nostalgic". It's worked in the past e.g. Geordie Shore cast winners, where the "wider audience" initially had no clue who they were.

Her song 'Boomerang' at that time got a billion + YT views, just is insane.

[Beso]

I have Facebook.

Ain't got a clue who she is.



She's my favourite so far. I see a softness in her. Her Daley and Mickey, and the one and only, Rick Astley, perhaps! are probably going to be the only ones I'm going to be into.

Jojo is most like civilian BB. Which will be a massive plus when it comes to voting. Her time for that is a long way off yet though. Which is another plus.

[Quantum Boy]

Her song 'Boomerang' at that time got a billion + YT views, just is insane.

"Won't let them Haterz get'thrr waaay... Amma come back likka boooomerang..."

I can literally still hear it :joker:.

[Quantum Boy]

It's insane if she really is broke though, JoJo Bows were huge, Claire's accessories sold them and ALL of the girls my daughters age were obsessed with them, they would compete for who had the most, we must have had 30+ of the damn things. And they were sold globally.

[Glenn.]

She’s not broke. She’s worth $20m apparently.

Well who knows how much she’s worth now with the **** show that is America right now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her pretending to know about Poly amorous bs was embarrassing

[Glenn.]

Her pretending to know about Poly amorous bs was embarrassing

But did you learn something?

No need to be embarrassed LT

[Quantum Boy]

But did you learn something?

No need to be embarrassed LT

To be fair, for some the concept of polyamory can be quite triggering.

[Glenn.]

To be fair, for some the concept of polyamory can be quite triggering.

Triggering if you’re insecure

[vesavius]

It's insane if she really is broke though, JoJo Bows were huge, Claire's accessories sold them and ALL of the girls my daughters age were obsessed with them, they would compete for who had the most, we must have had 30+ of the damn things. And they were sold globally.

Apparently they shifted about 80 million of the bloody things :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Triggering if you’re insecure

Awwe does that make you feel "progressive"?

:skull:

[Glenn.]

Awwe does that make you feel "progressive"?

:skull:

No just a grown up mate

[Mystic Mock]

To be fair, for some the concept of polyamory can be quite triggering.

It made me fuming tbh.

Nearly as bad as watching an England friendly match on the Football.:joker:

Being serious, people get annoyed (I don't use terms like triggered personally) at people being Polyamorous?

Isn't that a bit strange?

[Swan]

I have Facebook.

Ain't got a clue who she is.



She's my favourite so far. I see a softness in her. Her Daley and Mickey, and the one and only, Rick Astley, perhaps! are probably going to be the only ones I'm going to be into.

Jojo is most like civilian BB. Which will be a massive plus when it comes to voting. Her time for that is a long way off yet though. Which is another plus.

Yeah i see that too. I like her

[Nicky91]

i've seen her also recently in Demi Lovato's documentary project ''Child Star'' on Disney+

[AnnieK]

It's insane if she really is broke though, JoJo Bows were huge, Claire's accessories sold them and ALL of the girls my daughters age were obsessed with them, they would compete for who had the most, we must have had 30+ of the damn things. And they were sold globally.

Lol...I didn't know they were anything to do with her. Being a boy mum I didn't have that craze but I know a lot of girls in his class always wore the bows and raved about them constantly.

[Ammi]

Lol...I didn't know they were anything to do with her. Being a boy mum I didn't have that craze but I know a lot of girls in his class always wore the bows and raved about them constantly.

…see, working in a school and being familiar with lots of ‘girl crazes’, I still had no knowledge of either JoJo or the bows, how strange…

[Zizu]

…see, working in a school and being familiar with lots of ‘girl crazes’, I still had no knowledge of either JoJo or the bows, how strange…


Same

[Niamh.]

Lol...I didn't know they were anything to do with her. Being a boy mum I didn't have that craze but I know a lot of girls in his class always wore the bows and raved about them constantly.

I actually have a very vague memory of those bows too but never knew they were connected to her :laugh:

[Quantum Boy]

…see, working in a school and being familiar with lots of ‘girl crazes’, I still had no knowledge of either JoJo or the bows, how strange…

High school or primary school Ammi? I refuse to believe if it was primary schools, that you didn't see all of the girls rocking massive hair bows around 2017/2018. If you did, those were JoJo Siwa "JoJo bows" :joker:.

Or cheaper knock-offs from eBay :hehe:.

[Quantum Boy]

I think having an 8/9 year old daughter at the time of JoJo Siwa's "peak celebrity" is why I'm so aware of her to be fair. She indeed was HUGELY famous... but only with a very specific demographic of pre-teen girls.

[Quantum Boy]

Other random lore: Whe daughter was 13/14 and in her gay era, and JoJo came out, we used to joke that she might marry her. Daughter came out as straight a few years ago though so I guess that's not on the cards any more.

[Livia]

She seems like a sweet kid. Can't understand the hysterical fuss though.

[Ammi]

High school or primary school Ammi? I refuse to believe if it was primary schools, that you didn't see all of the girls rocking massive hair bows around 2017/2018. If you did, those were JoJo Siwa "JoJo bows" :joker:.

Or cheaper knock-offs from eBay :hehe:.

…Primary school and the older years so definitely ones that would have applied…:laugh:…we’ve had 99 crazes through my time there but JoJo bows ain’t one of them…mind you in my defence I have had long periods away from the children/school with health stuff also…

[vesavius]

The bottom line I guess is that there are a TON of people that are insanely famous in this age of global internet media that individuals not of certain demographics may have missed.

I only know her from Dance Moms really. I also spend too much time online and find her current effort to do a Miley rebranding amazingly entertaining in all it's car crash glory. But, I never watched any of her cartoons or TV shows and it's not like I have followed her music or bought a bow, so I do get why some in the UK who might engage with British traditional media more might not know her.

But I do think that we should accept that a person can be famous and a celeb with us personally not knowing them from mainstream stuff here in the UK. It's a big ole world out there.


I wonder how many have heard of Maddie Ziegler?

[Ammi]

The bottom line I guess is that there are a TON of people that are insanely famous in this age of global internet media that individuals not of certain demographics may have missed.

I only know her from Dance Moms really. I also spend too much time online and find her current effort to do a Miley rebranding amazingly entertaining in all it's car crash glory. But, I never watched any of her cartoons or TV shows and it's not like I have followed her music or bought a bow, so I do get why some in the UK who might engage with British traditional media more might not know her.

But I do think that we should accept that a person can be famous and a celeb with us personally not knowing them from mainstream stuff here in the UK. It's a big ole world out there.


I wonder how many have heard of Maddie Ziegler?

…..no…!!!!!!!…are you mad…!!!!!!??????…..thats all just very fake news tbh…if WE don’t know them then they’re not famous, I understand that you’re new here but you’ll learn, grasshopper…

[vesavius]

…..no…!!!!!!!…are you mad…!!!!!!??????…..thats all just very fake news tbh…if WE don’t know them then they’re not famous, I understand that you’re new here but you’ll learn, grasshopper…

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

If WE don’t know them then they’re not famous

The thing is, that's a position that a LOT of people legitimately hold. It's a bit nuts.

[Ammi]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:



The thing is, that's a position that a LOT of people legitimately hold. It's a bit nuts.

…yeah, that is true…also ‘if I don’t like them, they’re not famous’ is probably also a variation on that…that though has been how it’s been since the beginning in that we’ve had the ‘reality TV celebrities aren’t real celebrities…’…when reality TV has been a growing thing for many years and created much fame for its stars…and now that’s all been joined with YouTube and Tik Tok celebrities because these are all different forms of the same thing that creates ‘celebrity’ aren’t they…I admit that I’m a social media ignorant so I have no idea who are big on those platforms …(…which is why I like to be introduced to them on something like BB…)…and the very nature of the platforms that these celebrities dominate…?…would indicate that they would have huge followings…

[vesavius]

…yeah, that is true…also ‘if I don’t like them, they’re not famous’ is probably also a variation on that…that though has been how it’s been since the beginning in that we’ve had the ‘reality TV celebrities aren’t real celebrities…’…when reality TV has been a growing thing for many years and created much fame for its stars…and now that’s all been joined with YouTube and Tik Tok celebrities because these are all different forms of the same thing that creates ‘celebrity’ aren’t they…I admit that I’m a social media ignorant so I have no idea who are big on those platforms …(…which is why I like to be introduced to them on something like BB…)…and the very nature of the platforms that these celebrities dominate…?…would indicate that they would have huge followings…

I think a lot of a certain age are still stuck in a 90s very provincial way of perceiving fame... If they aren't on the front page of the Mirror or in a current UK TV show then here inevitably comes the 'Celeb?? Who even are they?'

[Ammi]

I think a lot of a certain age are still stuck in a 90s very provincial way of perceiving fame... If they aren't on the front page of the Mirror or in a current UK TV show then here inevitably comes the 'Celeb?? Who even are they?'

…this is what I love about BB and why old school fans like me will fight to the death to try to keep some of that essence of blending the old with they new …those faces we do know more with the new ones that are being introduced to us and how those blends themselves would never be aware of each other’s celebrity if it wasn’t for a show like this where they can compare their different paths to celebrity…it’s so much a good point you’ve made of why I love the show so much…:love:…

[vesavius]

…this is what I love about BB and why old school fans like me will fight to the death to try to keep some of that essence of blending the old with they new …those faces we do know more with the new ones that are being introduced to us and how those blends themselves would never be aware of each other’s celebrity if it wasn’t for a show like this where they can compare their different paths to celebrity…it’s so much a good point you’ve made of why I love the show so much…:love:…

Just to ask, you don't really think that I am new here or to this do you? :joker::joker:

[Ammi]

Just to ask, you don't really think that I am new here or to this do you? :joker::joker:

…no I’ve known you to be a BB seasonal poster for a while now…it’s just more that we still have you in the ‘beginner’s section…’…whereas some advance more quickly…?…you will get a badge on Friday though to say ‘I’m special..’…:fan:…

[vesavius]

…no I’ve known you to be a BB seasonal poster for a while now…it’s just more that we still have you in the ‘beginner’s section…’…whereas some advance more quickly…?…you will get a badge on Friday though to say ‘I’m special..’…:fan:…

lol, I wasn't aware that was even a thing. Maybe it's right that I am still there :joker:

[Ammi]

lol, I wasn't aware that was even a thing. Maybe it's right that I am still there :joker:

…you’re one of the forum BB season posters that I enjoy most as whether I agree or not always, you always reason your thoughts so well …but I’m just trying to keep you grounded so that we can keep you here and so that you don’t think that you’re ready for Reddit or Digital Spy forum yet and leave us…

[vesavius]

…you’re one of the forum BB season posters that I enjoy most as whether I agree or not always, you always reason your thoughts so well …but I’m just trying to keep you grounded so that we can keep you here and so that you don’t think that you’re ready for Reddit or Digital Spy forum yet and leave us…

:blush2::love:

Honestly, Reddit is an echo chamber **** show... I never go there for anything outside hobby stuff. My general views on BB in the sub there would have me at -100 in an hour lol

[Ammi]

:blush2::love:

Honestly, Reddit is an echo chamber **** show... I never go there for anything outside hobby stuff. My general views on BB in the sub there would have me at -100 in an hour lol

…Reddit is quite good for the gossip on there, though…I mean, I can’t say that I don’t browse from time to time in a self harming type way…:laugh:..you know it’s bad but, goddamn it’s a riveting read…

[vesavius]

…Reddit is quite good for the gossip on there, though…I mean, I can’t say that don’t browse from time to time in a self harming type way…:laugh:..you know it’s bad but, goddamn it’s a riveting read…

true :laugh:

[Swan]

Just googled her music out of curiosity and the first song i see was Karma on youtube. Anyway, see pic, her popularity is obviously overinflated. 500k subscribers isn't that much for someone supposedly so popular. The dislikes don't bode well either.

I actually think she seems alright in the house though.

[MTVN]

I was working for a shop which sold her books back in like 2016/17 and they were massive sellers but I've hardly heard much of her since then. I'm intrigued to see how she is now because it's not easy to cope with that level of fame when you're so young.

I can accept that she's very famous but I don't think she's the type of celebrity who does well in CBB. There's often a strong amount of nostalgia in this show and the celebs who do well are people who were massive back in the day and we get to see a new side of them here or people love a redemption arc for celebs who had a bit of controversy. Also it's still a British show so most viewers will have that bias towards UK names

[Mystic Mock]

The bottom line I guess is that there are a TON of people that are insanely famous in this age of global internet media that individuals not of certain demographics may have missed.

I only know her from Dance Moms really. I also spend too much time online and find her current effort to do a Miley rebranding amazingly entertaining in all it's car crash glory. But, I never watched any of her cartoons or TV shows and it's not like I have followed her music or bought a bow, so I do get why some in the UK who might engage with British traditional media more might not know her.

But I do think that we should accept that a person can be famous and a celeb with us personally not knowing them from mainstream stuff here in the UK. It's a big ole world out there.


I wonder how many have heard of Maddie Ziegler?

Is that Rachel's Sister?

[vesavius]

Is that Rachel's Sister?

No, the dancer that was in Sia's MVs. She was a Dance Moms kid as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM

[vesavius]

I was working for a shop which sold her books back in like 2016/17 and they were massive sellers but I've hardly heard much of her since then. I'm intrigued to see how she is now because it's not easy to cope with that level of fame when you're so young.

I can accept that she's very famous but I don't think she's the type of celebrity who does well in CBB. There's often a strong amount of nostalgia in this show and the celebs who do well are people who were massive back in the day and we get to see a new side of them here or people love a redemption arc for celebs who had a bit of controversy. Also it's still a British show so most viewers will have that bias towards UK names

You are right, that's generally very true, but then there's always Chantelle...

[Zizu]

I can accept that she's very famous but I don't think she's the type of celebrity who does well in CBB. There's often a strong amount of nostalgia in this show and the celebs who do well are people who were massive back in the day and we get to see a new side of them here or people love a redemption arc for celebs who had a bit of controversy. Also it's still a British show so most viewers will have that bias towards UK names


That was my reasoning

[Maru]

I know her mostly from seeing cringey shorts on youtube so it'll be interesting to see how she is on the show eg :

tVgMBo0q0js

Oh I just watched this... I saw the witchy photo and immediately thought oh she is channeling Miley Cyrus. I can see that really being her thing now with this commentary. Pulling bad girl in 202x is not going to be that easy, though. There's been too many bad outrageous insert things of recent that people are kinda adjusted to wild takes and wild personas. But what's weird is her dress style emulates Hannah Montana a little bit in her appearance on BB so far. She was working for Nickelodeon so her and Miley both worked up from within the same child star to adult star pipeline. (different networks but same field)

Though I notice of recent we have regressed to where "bad girl" means faux innocence hiding a big feminist energy yee haw... it's the kind of thing that is too taxing just trying to give a sh**, honestly. I don't really want her to be that predictable because I do find her potentially very interesting... but I don't know whether to think she will or will not be like that (predictable).

[Mystic Mock]

No, the dancer that was in Sia's MVs. She was a Dance Moms kid as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM

I know who you're on about now.

Thanks for the reply.:blush: