Daley's problem with Danny

[Jordan.]

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[Ammi]

…I don’t know, does he have a problem…?…the problem is that we haven’t seen the problem…(…or did I miss it…)…I mean obviously I’m rooting for Danny Beard but I can’t say whether the remark of it not being all about them was said in a joking way or a dismissive way or whatever way, you know…?…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Love Daley :love:

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[Jordan.]

…I don’t know, does he have a problem…?…the problem is that we haven’t seen the problem…(…or did I miss it…)…I mean obviously I’m rooting for Danny Beard but I can’t say whether the remark of it not being all about them was said in a joking way or a dismissive way or whatever way, you know…?…

I don't think it was said jokingly. Danny picked up on his negative energy instantly.

[Vanessa]

I don't think it was said jokingly. Danny picked up on his negative energy instantly.

We will have to wait and see what happens. Yes Danny definitely picked up on it.

[Ammi]

I don't think it was said jokingly. Danny picked up on his negative energy instantly.

…I’d love to see the actual clip/moment tbh…I always find it difficult when we don’t see these things plus the context…I can see that Danny perceived it as pointed in some way and as a negative but it’s hard to know whether that was how it was meant…atm, I’ll just see how their dynamics develop and whether there would appear to be any obvious undercurrent, you know…

[Beso]

Danny is a pussy.

[Oliver_W]

I don't think it was said jokingly. Danny picked up on his negative energy instantly.

I don't know anything about Danny, but he doesn't particularly strike me as thin-skinned.

Daley's comment might have been "joking" with malice behind it, who knows.

[Niamh.]

I wish they'd actually shown it tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.mediastorehouse.co.uk/t/767/los-angeles-1984-olympic-games-daley-thompson-21256979.jpg.webp

[Ray.]

Danny is a pussy.

He wishes lol

[Ammi]

I don't know anything about Danny, but he doesn't particularly strike me as thin-skinned.

Daley's comment might have been "joking" with malice behind it, who knows.

…as a huge BB fan and a regular late and live panellist, they are very ‘BB Savvy’ though…I’m a huge fan of Danny but I also agree with Kate and David on the late and live show last night in that Danny would know that psssssstttting Donna in the store room would create a viewing that us fans love to see with the conflict in terms of giving the show a bit of a ‘kickstart’….so there’s that in it as well, which is why I’d like to see the comment…

[Livia]

Take a comment about it not being all about you and make it ALLLLLLL about you.

[Livia]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoCvAhzW0AAeINp?format=jpg&name=large

Great teeshirt.

[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoCvAhzW0AAeINp?format=jpg&name=large

As an athlete who has actually trained and competed he will get it more than most. Hopefully this wont start a campaign by a certain group of people who apparently want a more inclusive world to hate on him.

I thought Daleys comment was a quip....nothing more, I am sure if Danny has said it to someone else they would have just laughed, Danny decided to make it all about him, I liked Danny on L and L but I want to see how he is in the house, already he is laying down the law about now treating Mickey any differently, thats fine if that is what he wants to do, if others want to given Mickey a bit of leeway that is up to them, they dont need to do as Danny says

[Cherie]

I wish they'd actually shown it tbh

They did, they didn't focus on Daleys face we just heard it across the room, it was a thing of nothing, just a quip nothing more, they were joking about it when they were picking their beds

[Beso]

More like Danny's problem with Daley!

[Niamh.]

They did, they didn't focus on Daleys face we just heard it across the room, it was a thing of nothing, just a quip nothing more, they were joking about it when they were picking their beds

Ahh, I'll try to play it back later, thanks

[Cherie]

Ahh, I'll try to play it back later, thanks


I went back to watch it, it was after Mickey came out and he gave Daley his gift and he gave Chris his, then he said and I have something for you, and he pointed and Danny said ...me ...and Mickey said No.... her...meaning Jo Jo, then Daley said ...its not all about you....they panned to his face ..he was smiling


13.26 you are welcome :laugh:

Ammi

This is why I dont join in the nightly chat when the show is on as I have to focus as to what is going on, its easy to miss these things

[Crimson Dynamo]

More like Danny's problem with Daley!

indeed

[Zizu]

I don't think it was said jokingly. Danny picked up on his negative energy instantly.


Is it negative energy or is he just a little overawed ..

[Niamh.]

I went back to watch it, it was after Mickey came out and he gave Daley his gift and he gave Chris his, then he said and I have something for you, and he pointed and Danny said ...me ...and Mickey said No.... her...meaning Jo Jo, then Daley said ...its not all about you....they panned to his face ..he was smiling


13.26 you are welcome :laugh:

Ammi

This is why I dont join in the nightly chat when the show is on as I have to focus as to what is going on, its easy to miss these things

Oh I do actually remember that now you say it, ffs, clearly a joke as I remember it but I will do a refresh and play it back anyway

[Ammi]

I went back to watch it, it was after Mickey came out and he gave Daley his gift and he gave Chris his, then he said and I have something for you, and he pointed and Danny said ...me ...and Mickey said No.... her...meaning Jo Jo, then Daley said ...its not all about you....they panned to his face ..he was smiling


13.26 you are welcome :laugh:

Ammi

This is why I dont join in the nightly chat when the show is on as I have to focus as to what is going on, its easy to miss these things

…thanks for that, I’ll watch out for anything in the future in terms of ‘undercurrents’ but as I say….I’m a Danny Beard fan but I have to see the context of things fully…even with sneak peeks when we do see interactions…?…they can be hugely out of context to the whole thing in the nightly show…

[Niamh.]

…thanks for that, I’ll watch out for anything in the future in terms of ‘undercurrents’ but as I say….I’m a Danny Beard fan but I have to see the context of things fully…even with sneak peeks when we do see interactions…?…they can be hugely out of context to the whole thing in the nightly show…

tbf to Danny he did say it might be his own prejudice towards more masculine men making him over think the comment so it will be interesting to see how this develops

[bots]

Can't people say that they find how danny was dressed and his make up was a bit odd without being condemned for it. The guy isn't normal by any stretch of the imagination. People may say .... its theatre or whatever, but people hiding behind a mask from the first moment you meet them isn't blinking normal

[Ammi]

tbf to Danny he did say it might be his own prejudice towards more masculine men making him over think the comment so it will be interesting to see how this develops

…oh yeah, it’s not a criticism against Danny in any way, just that I wasn’t reading anything deeper into it atm…I liked David and Kate’s take on it all on the later show when they didn’t take any of it seriously either and just brushed it off…

[Crimson Dynamo]

When Daley said that and then they cut to Danny I am not even sure if that was his actual reaction I Think it was cut in to make it look like he had been taken aback

Manipulation

[Swan]

Those supposedly trying to eradicate prejudice are always desperate to find it anywhere, even where it doesn't exist, and naturally respond with hated and utter contempt.

[Ammi]

Those supposedly trying to eradicate prejudice are always desperate to find it anywhere, even where it doesn't exist, and naturally respond with hated and utter contempt.

…that’s not something that applies to this, though …or to Danny…?…they did say that they were going to try even more to find a place of bonding/understanding with Daley…it’s very easy for something to be taken in a way that it wasn’t intended but it’s how it progresses from there, isn’t it…and so far we haven’t seen how that will all be…

[arista]

"Daley's problem with Danny"


Yes, get Danny out next week


(Tuesday's Live Eviction)

[Swan]

…that’s not something that applies to this, though …or to Danny…?…they did say that they were going to try even more to find a place of bonding/understanding with Daley…it’s very easy for something to be taken in a way that it wasn’t intended but it’s how it progresses from there, isn’t it…and so far we haven’t seen how that will all be…

Nah, i think Danny is a really nice bloke, excellent ambassador for Drag Queens and the Drag community as a whole, he's open to getting to know anyone in there. I was more referring to social media. Daley wearing the Real Women's Day t-shirt is doing the rounds on X atm.

[vesavius]

Honestly, I don't like Danny much... I don't know him at all because I generally don't enjoy drag much... But his energy is nasty.

But I am not a fan of his kind of arch camp bitch queen type persona, to be fair., and I hate all this 'I am here to educate people'... As if people that disagree with him are just doing so because they are 'ignorant'.

But even with that in mind... Daley did nuthin wrong.

[Cherie]

Nah, i think Danny is a really nice bloke, excellent ambassador for Drag Queens and the Drag community as a whole, he's open to getting to know anyone in there. I was more referring to social media. Daley wearing the Real Women's Day t-shirt is doing the rounds on X atm.



lol who would have thought, some will swoop on anything as vindication that they are victims of something or other

I would like to see Daly and Danny have a conversation about transwomen in womens sport, I wonder if ITV would have the balls to show it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Danny last night responding to the MP for Syrup of Figs

MP "I can be myself"

Beard "that's all you can be, just be yourself"


with a facemask on, fake hair and a silly panto dress :joker:

Id be interested to see him when all that stuff is taken off and he stops playing a character and starts being himself

:think:

[Cherie]

Honestly, I don't like Danny much... I don't know him at all because I generally don't enjoy drag much... But his energy is nasty.

But I am not a fan of his kind of arch camp bitch queen type persona, to be fair., and I hate all this 'I am here to educate people'... As if people that disagree with him are just doing so because they are 'ignorant'.

But even with that in mind... Daley did nuthin wrong.

Yeah that was a bit OTT

[Cherie]

"Daley's problem with Danny"


Yes, get Danny out next week

I'm getting the feeling you are not a fan Arista :laugh:

[Ammi]

Nah, i think Danny is a really nice bloke, excellent ambassador for Drag Queens and the Drag community as a whole, he's open to getting to know anyone in there. I was more referring to social media. Daley wearing the Real Women's Day t-shirt is doing the rounds on X atm.

…ahh ok, I wasn’t sure if you meant coming from Danny, which I didn’t see…but yeah…I hadn’t really known anything Daley has said until i see it now with his name coming up on ‘trending’…I still haven’t looked at any of the articles though and have no idea what his view are, other than anything specified in headlines…

[vesavius]

Look, the bottom line is that drag is not the same as trans. People conflate the two constantly. You can think, for example, that biological men should be kept out of women's sports and still enjoy a good drag show.

I am sure Danny would 100% agree that he is not a real woman.

[Livia]

Look, the bottom line is that drag is not the same as trans. People conflate the two constantly. You can think, for example, that biological men should be kept out of women's sports and still enjoy a good drag show.

I am sure Danny would 100% agree that he is not a real woman.

But we're still required to refer to him as "she".

[vesavius]

But we're still required to refer to him as "she".

Well, I will respect a person's wishes if I respect and like them no matter what I personally think, but as soon as I am being 'required' to do a thing by someone I don't think much of I tend to say no :P

But, yeah.. Current 'progressive' ideological thinking is full of contradictions and nonsense.

[Livia]

Well, I will respect a person's wishes if I respect and like them no matter what I personally think, but as soon as I am being 'required' to do a thing by someone I don't think much of I tend to say no :P

But, yeah.. Current 'progressive' ideological thinking is full of contradictions and nonsense.

Can't disagree with that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, I will respect a person's wishes if I respect and like them no matter what I personally think, but as soon as I am being 'required' to do a thing by someone I don't think much of I tend to say no :P

But, yeah.. Current 'progressive' ideological thinking is full of contradictions and nonsense.

Perfectly within your rights to say I recognise your request and I politely decline

BB saying that last night was ridiculous

[OnTheRight]

I think it's Danny who has the problem.

[vesavius]

Perfectly within your rights to say I recognise your request and I politely decline

BB saying that last night was ridiculous

'She' when he is drag, 'he' when he isn't...

We are supposed to treat his drag persona as a person with a separate gender? What type of insanity even is that?

[OnTheRight]

'She' when he is drag, 'he' when he isn't...

We are supposed to treat his drag persona as a person with a separate gender? What type of insanity even is that?

So if I put a frock on people have to address me as a she? Stop the world......

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that anyone is required to do anything with regards to drag queens…I recall in Courtney Act’s season, the question was asked directly to them from housemates…and they said that the general thing was ‘she’ as Courtney Act and ‘he’ as Shane …and that’s something that drag queens to get asked specifically but there is no requirement…

[Zizu]

Honestly, I don't like Danny much... I don't know him at all because I generally don't enjoy drag much... But his energy is nasty.

But I am not a fan of his kind of arch camp bitch queen type persona, to be fair., and I hate all this 'I am here to educate people'... As if people that disagree with him are just doing so because they are 'ignorant'.

But even with that in mind... Daley did nuthin wrong.


Perfect , couldn’t have worded any better using a dictionary and a thesaurus !

[Niamh.]

…I don’t think that anyone is required to do anything with regards to drag queens…I recall in Courtney Act’s season, the question was asked directly to them from housemates…and they said that the general thing was ‘she’ as Courtney Act and ‘he’ as Shane …and that’s something that drag queens to get asked specifically but there is no requirement…

Yeah, I was always under the impression that Drag Queens refer to themselves as "she" while in drag as more a part of the act and for fun/to be in character kind of a thing? I don't think these men (or most of them anyway) would care if someone still said he though?

[Cherie]

Yeah, I was always under the impression that Drag Queens refer to themselves as "she" while in drag as more a part of the act and for fun/to be in character kind of a thing? I don't think these men (or most of them anyway) would care if someone still said he though?

I wouldn't have thought so as they are playing a part, they are still a He at the end of the day

[Ammi]

Yeah, I was always under the impression that Drag Queens refer to themselves as "she" while in drag as more a part of the act and for fun/to be in character kind of a thing? I don't think these men (or most of them anyway) would care if someone still said he though?

…no, I don’t think that any would care on the whole…(…there will always be some that do, I guess…)…but I recall that I would always refer to Dame Edna as she when she was Dame Edna for instance…and Lily Savage had always been a she to me as well but equally a he as Paul O’Grady…that’s always just felt natural…in mainstream TV there are obviously more drag queens now because of Ru Paul’s show and I often seen that question put as to how to refer to them…it was interesting to see Courtney Act/Shane talk about it back in the day…

[Niamh.]

…no, I don’t think that any would care on the whole…(…there will always be some that do, I guess…)…but I recall that I would always refer to Dame Edna as she when she was Dame Edna for instance…and Lily Savage had always been a she to me as well but equally a he as Paul O’Grady…that’s always just felt natural…in mainstream TV there are obviously more drag queens now because of Ru Paul’s show and I often seen that question put as to how to refer to them…it was interesting to see Courtney Act/Shane talk about it back in the day…

Yeah exactly, it's a character so you can respond to the character, I reckon that's probably what Big Brother meant too when answering Mickeys question

[Glenn.]

But we're still required to refer to him as "she".

No one is requiring you to refer to him as a she. Who said you was?

[Glenn.]

Yeah exactly, it's a character so you can respond to the character, I reckon that's probably what Big Brother meant too when answering Mickeys question

It’s common sense that this is what was meant.

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.

[vesavius]

It’s common sense that this is what was meant.

You are projecting what you want to be happening, that's all. All we saw was BB saying that the drag persona should be referred to as a she, while Danny out of drag should be referred to as a he.

Why?

It's just a stage act. I have no more inclination to pretend that it's real than I would have to pretend Spit the Dog was a real dog while Bob Carolgees was on stage.

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.


Also, it's funny to me that the progressive left created the term and concept of 'triggers' and popularised it in the interests of safety and consideration now use it as a way to gaslight and belittle those that disagree with them. Just an observation.

[Glenn.]

You are projecting what you want to be happening, that's all. All we saw was BB saying that the drag persona should be referred to as a she, while Danny out of drag should be referred to as a he.

Why?

It's just a stage act. I have no more inclination to pretend that it's real than I would have to pretend Spit the Dog was a real dog while Bob Carolgees was on stage.




Also, it's funny to me that the progressive left created the term and concept of 'triggers' and popularised it in the interests of safety and consideration now use it as a way to gaslight and belittle those that disagree with them. Just an observation.


No one is forcing you too and that’s your problem. You think they are.

Drag Queens are characters.

[vesavius]

No one is forcing you too and that’s your problem. You think they are.

Drag Queens are characters.

Yes, it's just a character. But why did BB make the distinction? Danny is a man, and uses 'he' as a pronoun.

In or out of character, using 'he' is fine and acceptable. Do you agree?

As I say, what actually happened would be the same as BB suggesting that people treat Spit the Dog like a real dog while Carolgees was operating him. We would all think that was really odd, right?

[Glenn.]

Yes, it's just a character. But why did BB make the distinction? Danny is a man, and uses 'he' as a pronoun.

In or out of character, using 'he' is fine and acceptable. Do you agree?

As I say, what actually happened would be the same as BB suggesting that people treat Spit the Dog like a real dog while Carolgees was operating him. We would all think that was really odd, right?

For years when I was a child I thought Lily Savage was a woman. It’s just a character. It’s not the big deal you’re making out to be. Refer to the character as a she or not. No body apart from you really cares

[vesavius]

For years when I was a child I thought Lily Savage was a woman. It’s just a character. It’s not the big deal you’re making out to be. Refer to the character as a she or not. No body apart from you really cares

You aren't actually answering my questions. I am interested in your replies to them.

[Niamh.]

Yes, it's just a character. But why did BB make the distinction? Danny is a man, and uses 'he' as a pronoun.

In or out of character, using 'he' is fine and acceptable. Do you agree?

As I say, what actually happened would be the same as BB suggesting that people treat Spit the Dog like a real dog while Carolgees was operating him. We would all think that was really odd, right?

tbf though if someone asked how to refer to one of the HMs dressed as a dog for a task lets say, BB would probably say to call them a dog :shrug:

[vesavius]

tbf though if someone asked how to refer to one of the HMs dressed as a dog for a task lets say, BB would probably say to call them a dog :shrug:

As a task, yes.

[Glenn.]

I think a lot of people foolishly or ignorantly blur the lines between drag and trans.

You have idiot Americans who think drag show readings for children are worse than them having holes shot into them while they’re at school.
Comments on Danny’s stuff on Facebook are a hoot. Literal morons that think he’s trans.

[Niamh.]

As a task, yes.

Regardless, I don't think it was an order or a rule as such, I think that BB was just giving Mickey an answer as he asked and a lot of people would say she when a drag queen is in character. Of course that's my interpretation of the conversation but I think it's logical since in the L&L show everyone so far (including friends of his) have referred to Danny as "he" even when talking about him on launch night when he was in Drag :shrug:

[vesavius]

I think a lot of people foolishly or ignorantly blur the lines between drag and trans.


As I said earlier in the thread, "Look, the bottom line is that drag is not the same as trans. People conflate the two constantly. You can think, for example, that biological men should be kept out of women's sports and still enjoy a good drag show."

So, ofc I agree.

But it disappoints me that you refuse to answer my fair questions to you.

(this is where you say, "I haven't answered them because they are stupid", according to the internet argument playbook lol)

[Mitchell]

I think a lot of people foolishly or ignorantly blur the lines between drag and trans.

You have idiot Americans who think drag show readings for children are worse than them having holes shot into them while they’re at school.
Comments on Danny’s stuff on Facebook are a hoot. Literal morons that think he’s trans.

:clap1::clap1:

[Barry.]

It’s simple, most drug ueens are called she in drag. Le Fil (a drag queen too) likes to be called he in drag. It’s just what some drag queens like

[Swan]

Also, it's funny to me that the progressive left created the term and concept of 'triggers' and popularised it in the interests of safety and consideration now use it as a way to gaslight and belittle those that disagree with them. Just an observation.

Sadly ironic, yeah.

[Glenn.]

You aren't actually answering my questions. I am interested in your replies to them.

What question do you want me to answer?

About the dog?

It’s an illusion that most people go along with for the sake of keeping the character alive. No one is forcing you to believe the dog is real.

It’s like taking a child to Disney World full of characters. You know they’re not real but appreciate the character and the art.

[vesavius]

What question do you want me to answer?

About the dog?

It’s an illusion that most people go along with for the sake of keeping the character alive. No one is forcing you to believe the dog is real.

It’s like taking a child to Disney World full of characters. You know they’re not real but appreciate the character and the art.

OK, I give up. You clearly are not gonna answer in good faith.

I'll bow out now and let you get on with your day.

[Glenn.]

OK, I give up. You clearly are not gonna answer in good faith.

I'll bow out now and let you get on with your day.

I answered your question. What part of my answer wasn’t satisfactory?
Have a good evening mate.

[AnnieK]

I figure it's like this, if you are a kid and you know a teacher and you happen to go to their school, you will probably call them their first name when they are out of school but Sir / Miss in school. All part of the job, same with drag queen's. The "she" part is just part of the job :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I figure it's like this, if you are a kid and you know a teacher and you happen to go to their school, you will probably call them their first name when they are out of school but Sir / Miss in school. All part of the job, same with drag queen's. The "she" part is just part of the job :shrug:

Have you met Phil Gilbert? 😅

[Ammi]

I figure it's like this, if you are a kid and you know a teacher and you happen to go to their school, you will probably call them their first name when they are out of school but Sir / Miss in school. All part of the job, same with drag queen's. The "she" part is just part of the job :shrug:

…I think that Ru Paul has said …you can call me he/you can call me she…some drag queens prefer to be referred as she when they’re in character because they’re staying completely within that character while in drag…but not all drag queens have a preference, I don’t think…I guess that a ‘rule of thumb’ if someone is asking because they’re staying completely want to respect a drag queen’s preference is as BB said but it’s not a requirement…it’s much just a guidance, thing if you like…

[Beso]

A woman with as potty a mouth as Danny wouldn't be called she by me.

[Glenn.]

He’s quaking at that

[Mystic Mock]

We'll know more soon enough.

BB can't hide Daley's full opinion on Danny forever.

[Mystic Mock]

'She' when he is drag, 'he' when he isn't...

We are supposed to treat his drag persona as a person with a separate gender? What type of insanity even is that?

Yeah... BB didn't think that one through very well.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

It’s common sense that this is what was meant.

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.

Fair point.

[Maru]

Regardless, I don't think it was an order or a rule as such, I think that BB was just giving Mickey an answer as he asked and a lot of people would say she when a drag queen is in character. Of course that's my interpretation of the conversation but I think it's logical since in the L&L show everyone so far (including friends of his) have referred to Danny as "he" even when talking about him on launch night when he was in Drag :shrug:

That's how I interpreted it also. They (BB) gracefully answered and weren't requiring or pressuring him to use any pronoun specifically. Mickey seemed legitimately confused is all... now if he uses "he" instead and they gave him a warning, then that would be very different.

My impression is that Danny would just like to be treated as a person at the end of the day.

[Zizu]

People are just very very quick to be outraged and triggered.

Yeah … JoJo definitely made the most of the opportunity

[Niamh.]

That's how I interpreted it also. They (BB) gracefully answered and weren't requiring or pressuring him to use any pronoun specifically. Mickey seemed legitimately confused is all... now if he uses "he" instead and they gave him a warning, then that would be very different.

My impression is that Danny would just like to be treated as a person at the end of the day.

Yes, i agree with all that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email :sad:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoJQpPcbsAE3K-k?format=jpg&name=small

[Mystic Mock]

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email :sad:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoJQpPcbsAE3K-k?format=jpg&name=small

Is that a cheap way of shutting people down?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is that a cheap way of shutting people down?

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win :spin:

[Mystic Mock]

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win :spin:

Would you be saying that if the Democrats were doing this to Republican journalists?

[Glenn.]

Its a cheap way of keeping captured idiots from wasting your time

and its very efficient too

win :spin:

But they don’t refer to a body of water by its actual name.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But they don’t refer to a body of water by its actual name.

when bodies of water start emailing in I will update you

[Abra]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

[arista]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.


Yes, he could well do.

At least Danny
is Normal looking now.


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[Glenn.]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

That’s the problem with the uneducated. They don’t seem to be able to differentiate between drag queens and transgender people.

Maybe Daley has a brain in his head and will think differently.

Danny even said in last nights episode that there seems to be a fine line between trans and drag.

[arista]

Sadly for Big Brother they did not get that reply to the White House email :sad:

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Yes,
she is doing a great job.

[Crimson Dynamo]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

that is a lot of unfounded conjecture, it reads like fan fiction

:laugh:

[Glenn.]

Yes,
she is doing a great job.

Everything that comes out of her mouth is a proven lie.

[Abra]

Yes, he could well do.

At least Danny
is Normal looking now.


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Well yeah... but even when Danny wasn't "normal" looking I don't understand why it's being made into a big deal. It's a drag performance, a character, an art form that has existed for generations. The entire point of Danny's medium of performance is to not look normal, but that's not how they live in everyday life.

It seems like these days some people are so desperate to try and politicise drag when it's literally just a style of performance.

Even the whole thing about pronouns when it comes to drag is being so blown out of proportion. If someone is referring to a drag queen while in drag as "she" it's meant as a sort of joke, a wink wink, it's meant to be a light hearted way of showing that you are in on the joke and going along with the gag, it's not that they are literally asking you to believe that they are a woman. I swear common sense just doesn't exist with quite a few people on this site.

[Abra]

that is a lot of unfounded conjecture, it reads like fan fiction

:laugh:

...Or it's me watching Big Brother and giving my opinion on how I read a situation and where I think it could possibly go in the future, you know... like sort of the point of a forum. You would think someone with over 100,000 posts would grasp that concept but hey ho.

[Swan]

Well yeah... but even when Danny wasn't "normal" looking I don't understand why it's being made into a big deal. It's a drag performance, a character, an art form that has existed for generations. The entire point of Danny's medium of performance is to not look normal, but that's not how they live in everyday life.


Don't really wanna get involved is this usual shitshow, but tbf, if seeing Danny (or any drag queen) for the first time and they're in full make up, then waking up the next day to see them completely out of make up will come as a shock. Just because of how different the person looks.

It wouldn't be unreasonable for anyone to be like "omg i can't get over how different you look out of make up". Nothing to do with prejudice or any kind of phobia, it's just a natural human reaction.

[Crimson Dynamo]

...Or it's me watching Big Brother and giving my opinion on how I read a situation and where I think it could possibly go in the future, you know... like sort of the point of a forum. You would think someone with over 100,000 posts would grasp that concept but hey ho.

no need to snap

[Abra]

Don't really wanna get involved is this usual shitshow, but tbf, if seeing Danny (or any drag queen) for the first time and they're in full make up, then waking up the next day to see them completely out of make up will come as a shock. Just because of how different the person looks.

It wouldn't be unreasonable for anyone to be like "omg i can't get over how different you look out of make up". Nothing to do with prejudice or any kind of phobia, it's just a natural human reaction.

I agree, of course people can and will be surprised to see how Danny looks out of drag especially for the first time, but that wasn't the point I was making.

[Cherie]

I don't associate trans with drag queens, given some drag acts are straight males, but drag queens rather than coming under different umbrellas have been assimilated into the LGBTQ community and seem to be over protected by that community no matter what. I don't think Daley did anything wrong, they were laughing in the bedroom about it after, and last night when they went into the store room to collect their prizes Daley and Danny were laughing again, think people are trying to cause an issue where there isn't one, time will tell of course, I also find it amusing that there is a protection afforded to some groups when it comes to critisizing brown people that are not afforded to the rest of us :laugh:

[Beso]

Danny seems very eager to persecute people on their looks.

Twice he's done it so far.

[Abra]

I don't associate trans with drag queens, given some drag acts are straight males, but drag queens rather than coming under different umbrellas have been assimilated into the LGBTQ community and seem to be over protected by that community no matter what. I don't think Daley did anything wrong, they were laughing in the bedroom about it after, and last night when they went into the store room to collect their prizes Daley and Danny were laughing again, think people are trying to cause an issue where there isn't one, time will tell of course, I also find it amusing that there is a protection afforded to some groups when it comes to critisizing brown people that are not afforded to the rest of us :laugh:

The vast majority of drag queens are gay men. They are already in the community by default.

And what is the point you are making about brown people? I feel like I missed something.

[Crimson Dynamo]

danny seems very eager to persecute people on their looks.

Twice he's done it so far.

he seems very insecure, maybe thats why he hides behind as disguise?

[Abra]

Danny seems very eager to persecute people on their looks.

Twice he's done it so far.

Who did he persecute on their looks?

[Cherie]

The vast majority of drag queens are gay men. They are already in the community by default.

And what is the point you are making about brown people? I feel like I missed something.

Yes you are right they are, but not all....re brown people if I critisize a brown person I am generally called a racist by the same people who are critizing a brown person now, its not a reflection on you, but if you were around in off season you would see what I mean

[Ammi]

At first I thought the "everything's about you" comment may have just been a joke that he thought Danny could take, but I do think that Danny picked up on his energy early on.

But if he does harbour some feelings about trans women and he is reflecting that onto Danny, it's misplaced because Danny is a drag queen, not a trans woman. Those are two entirely different things.

Unless they really come to blows at some point I could see Daley coming round to Danny and perhaps realising that the pre-conceptions he possibly has in his head about people like Danny aren't actually true.

…it’s a bit difficult to comment on with this, isn’t it…because it’s about a vibe/an energy that may or may not be there and that’s something that we as viewers don’t know…it’s not something we can see or hear…and sometimes we’re correct in picking up on negative vibes and sometimes we can be wrong also but for whatever reason something has felt out of sync ….I’m quite interested to see if they gravitate toward each other in any deep conversations and if they bond at all and if any friendship develops….

[Ammi]

…I just read this article in the Daily Mirror…

Danny Beard fights tears as he makes emotional admission on CBB after first nominations
Celebrity Big Brother star Danny Beard held back the tears after speaking about the first eviction nomination task with fellow housemate and former Olympian Daley Thompson

Celebrity Big Brother star Danny Beard was emotional as he made his first eviction nomination in the famous house. Following the task, housemates spoke at the dining table, with Danny feeling nervous about the results.

As he is reassured by Daley Thompson, the RuPaul Drag Race star is told him there is nothing her can change now. Danny responded: “It’s not but it would feel s*** if you thought the whole house didn’t like you.”

Daley went on: "But that’s not going to be true. They only know a little bit of you and also I suspect everybody really struggled. There is no chance it’s you."


Danny replied: "Thanks Daley. I really appreciate you, you know. I’m going to be honest when I first came in I thought he’s going to hate me, before Daley said:"Why? I am so not that.”

Danny responded: "It was my own thing. Maybe I shouldn’t have said that to you there."

It led to Daley reassuring Danny, saying: "Danny don’t you worry. I’ll even be coming to one of your shows. I promise.”


…full article…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-danny-beard-fights-tears-35012771


…so obviously no problem and all just a clear day for the double DD’s going forward in their time in there..:love:..

[Niamh.]

…I just read this article in the Daily Mirror…

Danny Beard fights tears as he makes emotional admission on CBB after first nominations
Celebrity Big Brother star Danny Beard held back the tears after speaking about the first eviction nomination task with fellow housemate and former Olympian Daley Thompson

Celebrity Big Brother star Danny Beard was emotional as he made his first eviction nomination in the famous house. Following the task, housemates spoke at the dining table, with Danny feeling nervous about the results.

As he is reassured by Daley Thompson, the RuPaul Drag Race star is told him there is nothing her can change now. Danny responded: “It’s not but it would feel s*** if you thought the whole house didn’t like you.”

Daley went on: "But that’s not going to be true. They only know a little bit of you and also I suspect everybody really struggled. There is no chance it’s you."


Danny replied: "Thanks Daley. I really appreciate you, you know. I’m going to be honest when I first came in I thought he’s going to hate me, before Daley said:"Why? I am so not that.”

Danny responded: "It was my own thing. Maybe I shouldn’t have said that to you there."

It led to Daley reassuring Danny, saying: "Danny don’t you worry. I’ll even be coming to one of your shows. I promise.”


…full article…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-danny-beard-fights-tears-35012771


…so obviously no problem and all just a clear day for the double DD’s going forward in their time in there..:love:..

Good to hear.

I really like Danny, he's going to be very good for getting HMs to talk about difficult topics I think and I like how he's not afraid to hear people either. I do understand the warning etc but sometimes I think maybe it's better to let things play out (within reason) and have the HMs talk and learn and grow (or not)

[Swan]

Yeah the gun completely jumped on this thread title.

[Ammi]

Good to hear.

I really like Danny, he's going to be very good for getting HMs to talk about difficult topics I think and I like how he's not afraid to hear people either. I do understand the warning etc but sometimes I think maybe it's better to let things play out (within reason) and have the HMs talk and learn and grow (or not)

…to be honest, I haven’t heard much of either Danny or Daley’s views so conversations between them are something that I’m looking forward to because I see them both as listeners as well as speakers, you know…

…back onto the thread, I think it is easy to pick up something that isn’t there because you have concerns/anxieties etc that it might be there, you know…the original ‘it’s not all about you, you know’ or not everything’s about you might have been a deliberate ‘icebreaker’ by Daley but not how Danny took it in that moment…

[Cherie]

Yeah I was not picking up on any vibes at all from Daley ..so that just about confirms it, makes me laugh that people were digging up photos from the 80s though and sharing photos that because he supports biological women in sport he must be a raging homophobe :laugh:

[Ammi]

Yeah the gun completely jumped on this thread title.

…as if we would jump guns on here, get out of it…!!!!…:laugh:…

…honestly, first few days are slow and thin pickings so we’ll take what we can get…

[Crimson Dynamo]

"As he is reassured by Daley Thompson, the RuPaul Drag Race star is told him there is nothing her can change now. "

Is this been written by AI?

makes no sense :shrug:

[Niamh.]

…to be honest, I haven’t heard much of either Danny or Daley’s views so conversations between them are something that I’m looking forward to because I see them both as listeners as well as speakers, you know…

…back onto the thread, I think it is easy to pick up something that isn’t there because you have concerns/anxieties etc that it might be there, you know…the original ‘it’s not all about you, you know’ or not everything’s about you might have been a deliberate ‘icebreaker’ by Daley but not how Danny took it in that moment…

Yes sorry I was flip flopping in my head there between this and his conversation with Mickey after the Jojo stuff and their conversation about Drag queens etc

[Abra]

Who did he persecute on their looks?

Still waiting for an answer on this :conf:

[Beso]

Still waiting for an answer on this :conf:

Micky and michael.


But you must remember it's not all about you, Abra

[Gusto Brunt]

Danny is a pussy.

I thought he is gay. Must have missed it that he thinks he's female.

Only female when he's in drag. But he's not trans is he?????

[Abra]

Micky and michael.


But you must remember it's not all about you, Abra

What did he say about their looks?

[Beso]

What did he say about their looks?

Watch last night again, the girls had to shoosh him.

[Zizu]

I thought he is gay. Must have missed it that he thinks he's female.

Only female when he's in drag. But he's not trans is he?????


Pretty sure I saw him in Ten Pound Poms
[emoji3]

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[Mystic Mock]

Danny seems very eager to persecute people on their looks.

Twice he's done it so far.

Twice?

[Mystic Mock]

Micky and michael.


But you must remember it's not all about you, Abra

What did he say about Michael?

And with Mickey tbf, he did say to Donna "you are what you eat," which we all know what he was implying about Donna if we're being 100% honest with ourselves.

[letmein]

I thought he is gay. Must have missed it that he thinks he's female.

Only female when he's in drag. But he's not trans is he?????

Danny said that he didn’t care what people referred to him as pronoun-wise. This is obviously ITV and Ofcom’s position.