Isn’t that bullying behaviour by JoJo

[Zizu]

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I can’t ever remember feeling so uncomfortable watching anything worse than JoJo totally embarrassing Mickey tonight


Its clear he’s not a well man .. he bumps into furniture, he can’t find his way out of the Diary room without assistance so for JoJo to make a 72 year old guy look so ridiculous for sooo long was disrespectful and disgusting

All this whilst Mickey has been in the Diary Room saying how much he likes her and that they are buddies now

Shame on Patsy and that nobody actress for being involved as well


Its akin to them moving furniture around in a blind person’s house .. would that also be regarded as funny or amusing ?

[Mystic Mock]

It was more cringe and weird tbh.

It reminded me of Charlie's Nana routine from BB10.

[Zizu]

It was more cringe and weird tbh.

It reminded me of Charlie's Nana routine from BB10.


Would you think it was ok if Mickey was your father and complete nomarks were making him look ridiculous for no other reason than to make some people laugh and to make Mickey look stupid

[Mystic Mock]

Would you think it was ok if Mickey was your father and complete nomarks were making him look ridiculous for no other reason than to make some people laugh and to make Mickey look stupid

I would say to him that you have to develop thick skin in the Big Brother house.

Because there's a lot worse that happens on BB.

[Benjamin]

I wouldn’t call it bullying, no.

[Jordan.]

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I can’t ever remember feeling so uncomfortable watching anything worse than JoJo totally embarrassing Mickey tonight


Did you just become cognitive?

[Zizu]

I would say to him that you have to develop thick skin in the Big Brother house.

Because there's a lot worse that happens on BB.


How is acceptable for three young women to make 72 year old guy so ridiculous or pathetic - just for their own amusement at the expense of Mickey

[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Did you just become cognitive?


Anything constructive to add ?

Speaking personally I felt it was disgusting

[Liam-]

Obviously not

[Jordan.]

Anything constructive to add ?

Speaking personally I felt it was disgusting

If by constructive you mean "please humour my ridiculously pearl clutching claim" then no.

[Zizu]

Obviously not


Again .. so you’d be happy for them to make fun of your aging father if he wasn’t quite ‘with it’

[Zizu]

If by constructive you mean "please humour my ridiculously pearl clutching claim" then no.


I am deadly serious

[Mystic Mock]

How is acceptable for three young women to make 72 year old guy so ridiculous or pathetic - just for their own amusement at the expense of Mickey

It was just a bizarre prank.

I don't think any of them meant anything by it, and I do include Patsy in that as well.

[Zizu]

A taste of the internet .

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[Maru]

I think they were just having fun, but I also think Jojo is doing everything possible to hog camera time and advertise herself "to the crowd", that that part for me is becoming tiresome. But I have to see it the other way also, that that's just what she was taught to do from being a reality star from a very young age and it's how she's met success. So no arguments there. She is in the entertainment business and well, for some people this is their entertainment... is it my cup of tea? No.

If I were in Mickey's shoes, it wouldn't bother me. He probably couldn't care less. Not everything is bullying and sensitive levels do vary. So I respect that some people may see that and think it's very hurtful... especially those sensitive for the elderly. But I don't see Mickey as elderly in an infirm way. I think he's mentally capable and perfectly able to understand what is going on around him, but he has some obstacles others don't have to deal with. And why should he worry about what other people might think? He's 72.

[Chilltown]

JoJo is a bully, yes

[Vanessa]

A lot of people seem to think so yes.
But I think they were just having a laugh. Then must get so bored in there, with long periods of nothing to do.

[Ammi]

…no I don’t think it was…I was just watching this vid again and how when she revealed herself, JoJo went over to Mickey and hugged him with affection/put her arm around him…it was all very gentle pranking in how it was delivered and how it was taken, I feel…


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[Ammi]

…I don’t know how to post Tik Tok vids but there is one of JoJo and Mickey bonding in a conversation about tattoos and who did their tattoos etc …and JoJo saying to Mickey ‘you’re adorable…’…

…they really do show signs of a deeper friendship developing…:love:…I mean, the very best of BB and why we love it…

…anyway, the vid is apparently on JoJo’s TikTok account for anyone who can view…or even post…?…

[Vanessa]

…I don’t know how to post Tik Tok vids but there is one of JoJo and Mickey bonding in a conversation about tattoos and who did their tattoos etc …and JoJo saying to Mickey ‘you’re adorable…’…

…they really do show signs of a deeper friendship developing…:love:…I mean, the very best of BB and why we love it…

…anyway, the vid is apparently on JoJo’s TikTok account for anyone who can view…or even post…?…
Yes they're getting on great. Will she still nominate him? Definitely :joker:

[Beso]

Well Mickey must love being bullied because he, like me, thoroughly enjoyed the experience.:shrug:

[Ammi]

Yes they're getting on great. Will she still nominate him? Definitely :joker:

…:laugh:…yeah possibly, all of the nominations will be interesting this week as after a week of living together..? …it’ll be less about trying to find a reason and more…let me count the ways, baby…:laugh:…

[Jessica.]

This is some serious reaching :joker:

[Withano]

It’s not bullying because she clearly isn’t hoping to harm or intimidate him with a little dress-up.

If you wanted to drive the ‘Jo Jo is mean to the homophobic man who implied he’d tie her up to change her sexuality’ train - I think an ‘unkind prank’ would be the last stop. But even that is a stretch.

[Zizu]

I think they were just having fun, but I also think Jojo is doing everything possible to hog camera time and advertise herself "to the crowd", that that part for me is becoming tiresome. But I have to see it the other way also, that that's just what she was taught to do from being a reality star from a very young age and it's how she's met success. So no arguments there. She is in the entertainment business and well, for some people this is their entertainment... is it my cup of tea? No.

If I were in Mickey's shoes, it wouldn't bother me. He probably couldn't care less. Not everything is bullying and sensitive levels do vary. So I respect that some people may see that and think it's very hurtful... especially those sensitive for the elderly. But I don't see Mickey as elderly in an infirm way. I think he's mentally capable and perfectly able to understand what is going on around him, but he has some obstacles others don't have to deal with. And why should he worry about what other people might think? He's 72.


He gets lost going to and returning from the flamin’ diary room !!

[Lostie!]

You can't remember ever feeling so uncomfortable? Really?

[Zizu]

…no I don’t think it was…I was just watching this vid again and how when she revealed herself, JoJo went over to Mickey and hugged him with affection/put her arm around him…it was all very gentle pranking in how it was delivered and how it was taken, I feel…


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Would she have done the same thing to her ageing uncle who she liked and respected - them prolonged it when it was obvious that he had no clue they were making him look pathetic ?

I think not

[Zizu]

You can't remember ever feeling so uncomfortable? Really?


Not watching something on telly no

[Zizu]

It’s not bullying because she clearly isn’t hoping to harm or intimidate him with a little dress-up.

If you wanted to drive the ‘Jo Jo is mean to the homophobic man who implied he’d tie her up to change her sexuality’ train - I think an ‘unkind prank’ would be the last stop. But even that is a stretch.


See your take on what happened a few days ago is quite ridiculous so we will never agree on this point .

Tell me you would be happy if that was your old father being made to look ridiculous

I await your reply …

[Zizu]

Well Mickey must love being bullied because he, like me, thoroughly enjoyed the experience.:shrug:


He had no idea what was happening.,

That’s my point

[Benjamin]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

This is some serious reaching :joker:

Like that Bella Thorne thread :joker:

[Niamh.]

You can't remember ever feeling so uncomfortable? Really?

Right? Lmao

[Beso]

He had no idea what was happening.,

That’s my point

But once he found out, he looked more alive than he has ever done in the past 20 years.

The smile in itself said it all. It was a lovely moment for both him and Jojo.

I know you've got your teeth into this, but you truly aren flogging a dead horse in this one.

Good morning though.:wavey:

[Zizu]

But once he found out, he looked more alive than he has ever done in the past 20 years.

The smile in itself said it all. It was a lovely moment for both him and Jojo.

I know you've got your teeth into this, but you truly aren flogging a dead horse in this one.

Good morning though.:wavey:


Loads of people share my view .. maybe we just have respect for older folk with neurological disorders

[Benjamin]

Loads of people share my view .. maybe we just have respect for older folk with neurological disorders

Doesn’t mean you’re right. ;)

[Zizu]

Doesn’t mean you’re right. ;)


Your opinion isn’t relevant..,

[AnnieK]

You can't justify him "making a joke" to her then vilify for her playing a joke on him. Its just hypocritical.

Before you ask, no it wouldn't make me uncomfortable if she did it to my Dad (who is 78). He, and I would find it hysterical, and Mickey looked quite amused by it when he found out

[AnnieK]

Loads of people share my view .. maybe we just have respect for older folk with neurological disorders

But not for younger people with different sexual orientations who feel upset when they believe they are targeted for that eh?

[Zizu]

You can't justify him "making a joke" to her then vilify for her playing a joke on him. Its just hypocritical.

Before you ask, no it wouldn't make me uncomfortable if she did it to my Dad (who is 78). He, and I would find it hysterical, and Muckey looked quite amused by it when he found out


She isn’t 72 with neurological issues

Answer honestly.. how would you feel if you were at a party and you noticed a small group of complete strangers making your ageing , confused uncle look completely ridiculous ?

[Zizu]

But not for younger people with different sexual orientations who feel upset when they believe they are targeted for that eh?


She is a bright young thing not a 72 year old man who gets lost in the BB house and needs help after leaving the diary room

[AnnieK]

She is a bright young thing not a 72 year old man who gets lost in the BB house and needs help after leaving the diary room

If he is that vulnerable, the BB house is not for him.

[Zizu]

Right? Lmao


So I am not allowed to share a deadly serious opinion on something seen on a reality show without being mocked by a MODERATOR.

Is that where we are at now


We all see and experience events quite differently ..

I watch all these youtube clips showing people having accidents , clearly getting hurt and I cringe and my heart sinks , my stomach churns … other people think the clips are absolutely hilarious

[Zizu]

If he is that vulnerable, the BB house is not for him.


Well that was clearly obvious from the get go , surely.

He presents as brain damaged boxer which is exactly what he is .. all compounded by decades of excessive drinking and drug taking

[Niamh.]

So I am not allowed to share a deadly serious opinion on something seen on a reality show without being mocked by a MODERATOR.

Is that where we are at now


We all see and experience events quite differently ..

I watch all these youtube clips showing people having accidents , clearly getting hurt and I cringe and my heart sinks , my stomach churns … other people think the clips are absolutely hilariousOh grow up Zizu, you post your opinions on a discussion forum, people are going to have opinions on your opinions even MODERATORS

[Benjamin]

Your opinion isn’t relevant..,

The same can be said for your wildly dull and pointless posts.

[joeysteele]

No it isn't bullying.
I can understand that it seemed a bit unkind.

Bullying is now a word widely used inappropriately in my view.
Just look at someone the wrong way now and it's seen as bullying.
Ridiculous.

What happened here however was Micky was the only one not to see her appearance changed.
All the others had.
So he was the only one they could try it out on.
No one disagreed, no one objected.

Did he not suspect anything or did he just go along with it
Who knows.
Either way it was a bit of fun, far from making him look foolish, it actually showed him a good sport as to it.
Because he found it humerous once revealed.

Age shouldn't come into this.
They are ALL equal housemates.
Relieving a lot of boredom in the house must be very important at times.

What I liked was the inclusion of them all in the change of appearance and Micky clearly not bothered or offended at all by it either.
So no , no bullying.

If it had say been my Dad or my Grandad, well I think knowing how my Dad and Grandad were, they would have found it hilarious.

[Ammi]

Loads of people share my view .. maybe we just have respect for older folk with neurological disorders

…I’m not sure what you’re defining as ‘loads of people’, Zizu…but I can’t see that this is a widely shared perspective in terms of media articles or even discussion points/threads on BB forums…what you’ve quoted…?…is that the eviction show discussion thread on DS…?…that’s barely a handful of posts and the type of posts often found in that vibe of thread because it’s all quick posting without time for much thought as the episode is airing…

[ebandit]

.........................cuff billy 'n make them plead for forgiveness for such bullying............................

honestly..............what would jo-jo make of this terrible behaviour

but what would i know................................

Mark L

[Gusto Brunt]

It was more cringe and weird tbh.

It reminded me of Charlie's Nana routine from BB10.

Quite a lot of this series has been cringe. I have never used the fast forward button so much.

And JoJo 'dancing'. So embarrassing.

[Cherie]

I don't think Mickey was fooled, the fact that they thought he would be was more comical, I didn't see the need for the prank it was pretty childish, cringe is a good word for it

[Beso]

I could see your point had the joke been played on patsy.

[Abra]

It's funny how the same people who bend over backwards to defend Mickey's "jokes" are now the ones claiming that he is being bullied by jokes.

:joker: Pot. Kettle.

Mickey found it hilarious and was actually impressed by it, but dear snowflakes, please stop getting offended on his behalf.

[vesavius]

Nah, not bullying at all. Just a bit of fun.

I actually think he knew exactly what was going on and just chose to play into it... The man has taught in acting schools and been around actors for decades... He understands improv and what a skit is and, honestly, JoJo really was not that convincing :laugh:

[Vanessa]

This is some serious reaching :joker:

I don't agree with it, but it's all over Facebook.
Most people seem to think it's bullying.

[joeysteele]

I don't agree with it, but it's all over Facebook.
Most people seem to think it's bullying.

Oh that's no surprise Vanessa .
Facebook has some of the most awful and toxic people imaginable.
I avoid even looking on it.
Gross.

[Vanessa]

Oh that's no surprise Vanessa .
Facebook has some of the most awful and toxic people imaginable.
I avoid even looking on it.
Gross.

I'm surprised at how many people think it's bullying.
Didn't they see Mickey and Jojo hugging at the end?

[bots]

i don't think BB are being equal in how they treat hm's, but, really, thats not new

[Crimson Dynamo]

I cant belive anyone thought Mickey bought it

He was having some fun too

He is a great housemate

[Quantum Boy]

The argument seems to be that he's effectively intellectually disabled (I don't think thats the case but it's what's being argued here)? And if that's true then its production/ITV that would be to blame if he was in a situation like is being described. If he's vulnerable he shouldn't be in there.

I would say, to be fair, that it wouldn't be the first time they've put clearly vulnerable people in the house.

But I don't think that's the case here.

You can't let your overwhelming dislike of someone (JoJo) colour your assessment of every little thing.

[Livia]

Just watching last night's show on catch up. What an excruciating cringe-fest.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just watching last night's show on catch up. What an excruciating cringe-fest.

Angelica crying thinking she has inspired a generation of kids was the worst

[Quantum Boy]

Angelica crying thinking she has inspired a generation of kids was the worst

I'm afraid she's correct, her and that guy off Byker Grove were iconic 3.30pm viewing, no ones ever done the lead-in to The Wild Thornberries like them and no one will ever come close.

[Livia]

Angelica crying thinking she has inspired a generation of kids was the worst

I know! And Patsy weeping in the diary room because Mickey said she can't cook. Not even going into Trisha's whole Islamaphobia thing seconds after Fabricant said he was of Jewish extraction and she'd shouted OY!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nah, not bullying at all. Just a bit of fun.

I actually think he knew exactly what was going on and just chose to play into it... The man has taught in acting schools and been around actors for decades... He understands improv and what a skit is and, honestly, JoJo really was not that convincing :laugh:

he turned the joke onto her thinking he was buying it

genius:joker:

[Zizu]

The argument seems to be that he's effectively intellectually disabled (I don't think thats the case but it's what's being argued here)? And if that's true then its production/ITV that would be to blame if he was in a situation like is being described. If he's vulnerable he shouldn't be in there.

I would say, to be fair, that it wouldn't be the first time they've put clearly vulnerable people in the house.

But I don't think that's the case here.

You can't let your overwhelming dislike of someone (JoJo) colour your assessment of every little thing.


Surely you’ve noticed that basically everything confuses him .. he’s not dissimilar to Ozzy Osbourne in that respect possibly worse

He had to ask BB for assistance finding his way back from the diary room ffs

[Zizu]

In hindsight I should not have described the behaviour as BULLYING in the thread title as the vast majority are focusing on the word bullying..



What if I had described the incident as disrespectful or disagreeable or distasteful or even necessary given it was at the expense of a guy who barely knows what day it is … imagine it was your elderly, infirmed

So now reconsider your posts / position without thinking of it as bullying

[rusticgal]

Its not bullying...it was a bit mean imo. Its clear he struggles with issues, onset of dementia maybe or just taken too many whacks to the head. Its like watching the behaviour of the great Mohammad Ali in his later years. Personally I would not have done it...I would have felt like a mean girl but maybe she wants to be mean girl if she still harbours what he did the other day.
However, he took it really well and found it funny so fair play to him.

[Zizu]

Fair points

[Beso]

Oh that's no surprise Vanessa .
Facebook has some of the most awful and toxic people imaginable.
I avoid even looking on it.
Gross.

Yeah, but apart from your friends it's ok, right?

[Beso]

Its not bullying...it was a bit mean imo. Its clear he struggles with issues, onset of dementia maybe or just taken too many whacks to the head. Its like watching the behaviour of the great Mohammad Ali in his later years. Personally I would not have done it...I would have felt like a mean girl but maybe she wants to be mean girl if she still harbours what he did the other day.
However, he took it really well and found it funny so fair play to him.



Or maybe she just knew he would ok with it, like he thought when he said what he said about her.

[Zizu]

Or maybe she just knew he would ok with it, like he thought when he said what he said about her.


I’m thinking pure unadulterated malice or simple and satisfying revenge whilst getting even more screen time

[Vanessa]

I’m thinking pure unadulterated malice or simple and satisfying revenge whilst getting even more screen time

They have grown very fond of each other. You can see them chatting and having a laugh on the live feed.

[Zizu]

They have grown very fond of each other. You can see them chatting and having a laugh on the live feed.


Bet she shows her true colours and nominates him again

[Vanessa]

Bet she shows her true colours and nominates him again

I don't think she has a reason to pick someone else yet?
But they have to pick 2. Lets see who else she nominates.

[Quantum Boy]

Surely you’ve noticed that basically everything confuses him .. he’s not dissimilar to Ozzy Osbourne in that respect possibly worse

He had to ask BB for assistance finding his way back from the diary room ffs

Sure, but if you believe he's vulnerable because of that, then the people assessing who is fit to go into something like this are the ones to blame if there's a huge problem. If hes not well enough to handle anything the show might throw at him they should have assessed him and said no to him going in at all.

As it happens, I don't think he is particularly vulnerable, and I also think he clearly knew that it was Jojo and was just playing along, it was just a bit of fun. He likes her. Their sort-of-friendship that's emerging is one of the only interesting parts of the show currently.

[Zizu]

Sure, but if you believe he's vulnerable because of that, then the people assessing who is fit to go into something like this are the ones to blame if there's a huge problem. If hes not well enough to handle anything the show might throw at him they should have assessed him and said no to him going in at all.

As it happens, I don't think he is particularly vulnerable, and I also think he clearly knew that it was Jojo and was just playing along, it was just a bit of fun. He likes her. Their sort-of-friendship that's emerging is one of the only interesting parts of the show currently.


Guess time will tell

I have always liked him from his early acting days .. always very entertaining / interesting in his interviews and highly intelligent.

This isn’t the same guy by any means

I think she was cruel at best , that’s being generous

[Zizu]

I'm surprised at how many people think it's bullying.
Didn't they see Mickey and Jojo hugging at the end?


He probably didn’t even know who was hugging him .. he may have put on a smiley face to cover any embarrassment - at being made to look so foolish

[Crimson Dynamo]

Their sort-of-friendship that's emerging is one of the only interesting parts of the show currently.

:nono:

You are forgetting the whole Jack and Angelica and Chris thing and the bit
with Trisha and then Daley says that thing and its brilliant and then Ella and
that other girl says something and I'm like wow that's wild and then Patsy
says "in the USA and my kids are like" and then er, well, and er


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[Ammi]

…this vid is from livestream, it wasn’t show yesterday in the highlight show but it shows the growing bond and fondness that both JoJo and Mickey seem to have for each other…it’s very sweet…I can’t see that there was any disrespect given or any taken in the ‘Billy’ prank….

https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjojosiwa/video/7491834192376892714

[Quantum Boy]

He probably didn’t even know who was hugging him .. he may have put on a smiley face to cover any embarrassment - at being made to look so foolish

Are you sure you like him Zizu, you're being tougher on him than anyone, you're managing to make me feel sorry for the poor chap if he pops on TiBB and reads all this :joker:

[Cherie]

Its not bullying...it was a bit mean imo. Its clear he struggles with issues, onset of dementia maybe or just taken too many whacks to the head. Its like watching the behaviour of the great Mohammad Ali in his later years. Personally I would not have done it...I would have felt like a mean girl but maybe she wants to be mean girl if she still harbours what he did the other day.
However, he took it really well and found it funny so fair play to him.

He could also be playing the buffoon? He could have tasked himself to play a role just to pass the time

[AnnieK]

I’m thinking pure unadulterated malice or simple and satisfying revenge whilst getting even more screen time

Pure unadulterated malice? Seriously?
You are given JoJo far too much credit there and it's a little over the top to say pure malice. That's worse than saying it was bullying behaviour. He found it funny....what's the problem?

[Barry.]

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This!!!

Anything to find a reason to hate Jojo really. Mickey probably took it as a joke too so I don’t get how this made you feel uncomfortable for him. He thought she looked unbelievable as a guy too

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Not to be pedantic but the phrase "clutching at straws" has nothing to do with plastic drinking straws :nono:

It comes from a proverb in Thomas More's “Dialogue of Comfort Against Tribulation” (1534) which says, “A drowning man will clutch at straws.” It is said that the “straw” in this case refers to the sort of thin reeds that grow by the side of a river.


ergo

she is a bully and its all Ben's fault

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[Barry.]

That’s not bullying though

[Jessica.]

She also didn't even decide to prank Mickey until she was already dressed up and people are acting like it was premeditated.

[Maru]

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Pretty sure I own these exact ones

[Quantum Boy]

As an aside - did anyone else think that Boy Jojo looked like a Sprouse twin? The Sprouse Triplets. The Suite Life of Zack, Cody and Jojo.

[Barry.]

As an aside - did anyone else think that Boy Jojo looked like a Sprouse twin? The Sprouse Triplets. The Suite Life of Zack, Cody and Jojo.

I thought a young Justin Beiber

[Crimson Dynamo]

I must say she reminded me of a young Gordon Brown, the firebrand Scottish Chancellor of the Exchequer

[Zizu]

Are you sure you like him Zizu, you're being tougher on him than anyone, you're managing to make me feel sorry for the poor chap if he pops on TiBB and reads all this :joker:


I really like him ( much preferred the real Mickey though ) that’s why I am so disappointed with the treatment of him the other evening

[rusticgal]

Or maybe she just knew he would ok with it, like he thought when he said what he said about her.


Maybe....they seem to have bonded now.

[Mystic Mock]

You can't justify him "making a joke" to her then vilify for her playing a joke on him. Its just hypocritical.

Before you ask, no it wouldn't make me uncomfortable if she did it to my Dad (who is 78). He, and I would find it hysterical, and Mickey looked quite amused by it when he found out

I personally agree with you on both points tbh.

I feel like some of those people on DS that Zizu's quoting on here are probably looking for any excuse to criticize Jojo because she made Mickey look bad during Lesbiangate.

Also DS has gotten more strange in recent years, there were about 3 members that got the best looking female contestant on Strictly thread shut down last year because it was "degrading to women."

Also they thought that their opinion were the majority even though over 50 votes were cast on that poll, so those three members in question were not great mathematicians.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Quite a lot of this series has been cringe. I have never used the fast forward button so much.

And JoJo 'dancing'. So embarrassing.

Fair point about a lot of this series being cringe so far.

[Maru]

I personally agree with you on both points tbh.

I feel like some of those people on DS that Zizu's quoting on here are probably looking for any excuse to criticize Jojo because she made Mickey look bad during Lesbiangate.

Also DS has gotten more strange in recent years, there were about 3 members that got the best looking female contestant on Strictly thread shut down last year because it was "degrading to women."

Also they thought that their opinion were the majority even though over 50 votes were cast on that poll, so those three members in question were not great mathematicians.:joker:

I don't know much about DS. I've read a few threads a couple of times... and the comments are very knee jerk and expected from what I did see. I would agree for sure that some people are just looking for something to be outraged by (not you, Zizu...) ... it's like the voyeuristic version of internet bloodsports, I guess is one way to put that...

[Mystic Mock]

Surely you’ve noticed that basically everything confuses him .. he’s not dissimilar to Ozzy Osbourne in that respect possibly worse

He had to ask BB for assistance finding his way back from the diary room ffs

Ozzy is an Aston Villa supporter.

You can't get more confused than that.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know much about DS. I've read a few threads a couple of times... and the comments are very knee jerk and expected from what I did see. I would agree for sure that some people are just looking for something to be outraged by (not you, Zizu...) ... it's like the voyeuristic version of internet bloodsports, I guess is one way to put that...

Fair point.

[Maru]

Mickey had said at some point he had serious insomnia and was prone to missing entire days of sleep... I knew young people that missed sleep chronically, some due to health problems. They looked like death, were mentally fragile and you couldn't expect much of them.. lack of sleep will mimic many things in itself... if he's not getting adequate sleep in conjunction with other issues (like CTE), jet lag or just not being able to get quality sleep period. Imo, he needed his own bedroom with his sleep condition if he was going to make it through. Not even considering any withdrawal from drugs or alcohol. So much can explain his demeanor so I don't think we can assume very much... though I think if he had significant dementia, he would not be able to cope in the house for very long at all.

[BriannaBorou]

Shame on Big Brother!
Mickey is 72 years old,as mentioned before,with mental health problems, memory problems and balance problems, sue to his long career as a boxer,as we all witnessed. For him to be subjected to the same tasks as the the younger ,healthier contestants was disgusting,in particular, giving him only the worst seafood ever to eat, and subjecting him to very little food. Withholding food from a person, is deemed cruelty, especially a 72 year old man. Because of his age and health issues, he should have been giving the same privileges as Trisha. I'm not saying that Trisha didn't deserve a private room,of course she did, but Mickey should have too. His age and health and mental problems were never even considered. Big brothers treatment of Mickey is disgusting ,bordering on cruelty. His housemates tolerance of him wasn't much better. He is an old man, with mental problems,of course he is going to come out with some phrases that in this day and age are intolerable to some people,( Because anything offends anybody these days, we've turned into a bunch of lightweights.) . Mickey is old school, and he's an old school flirt,. If anyone has ever worked in a nursing home, they would know that elderly men are notorious flirts, a sad way to regain their youth,and of course he doesn't know about how to refer to certain people or what to call them in polite society now, as he hasn't been a part of society for so long,so people should be patient with him, like they are they're grandparents . In no way should Mickey be punished for being a mentally ill old man. He's a legend,treat him the way he deserves to be treated with respect.

[Zizu]

Shame on Big Brother!
Mickey is 72 years old,as mentioned before,with mental health problems, memory problems and balance problems, sue to his long career as a boxer,as we all witnessed. For him to be subjected to the same tasks as the the younger ,healthier contestants was disgusting,in particular, giving him only the worst seafood ever to eat, and subjecting him to very little food. Withholding food from a person, is deemed cruelty, especially a 72 year old man. Because of his age and health issues, he should have been giving the same privileges as Trisha. I'm not saying that Trisha didn't deserve a private room,of course she did, but Mickey should have too. His age and health and mental problems were never even considered. Big brothers treatment of Mickey is disgusting ,bordering on cruelty. His housemates tolerance of him wasn't much better. He is an old man, with mental problems,of course he is going to come out with some phrases that in this day and age are intolerable to some people,( Because anything offends anybody these days, we've turned into a bunch of lightweights.) . Mickey is old school, and he's an old school flirt,. If anyone has ever worked in a nursing home, they would know that elderly men are notorious flirts, a sad way to regain their youth,and of course he doesn't know about how to refer to certain people or what to call them in polite society now, as he hasn't been a part of society for so long,so people should be patient with him, like they are they're grandparents . In no way should Mickey be punished for being a mentally ill old man. He's a legend,treat him the way he deserves to be treated with respect.


You make some excellent points !!

[MTVN]

Shame on Big Brother!
Mickey is 72 years old,as mentioned before,with mental health problems, memory problems and balance problems, sue to his long career as a boxer,as we all witnessed. For him to be subjected to the same tasks as the the younger ,healthier contestants was disgusting,in particular, giving him only the worst seafood ever to eat, and subjecting him to very little food. Withholding food from a person, is deemed cruelty, especially a 72 year old man. Because of his age and health issues, he should have been giving the same privileges as Trisha. I'm not saying that Trisha didn't deserve a private room,of course she did, but Mickey should have too. His age and health and mental problems were never even considered. Big brothers treatment of Mickey is disgusting ,bordering on cruelty. His housemates tolerance of him wasn't much better. He is an old man, with mental problems,of course he is going to come out with some phrases that in this day and age are intolerable to some people,( Because anything offends anybody these days, we've turned into a bunch of lightweights.) . Mickey is old school, and he's an old school flirt,. If anyone has ever worked in a nursing home, they would know that elderly men are notorious flirts, a sad way to regain their youth,and of course he doesn't know about how to refer to certain people or what to call them in polite society now, as he hasn't been a part of society for so long,so people should be patient with him, like they are they're grandparents . In no way should Mickey be punished for being a mentally ill old man. He's a legend,treat him the way he deserves to be treated with respect.

Welcome to the forum :wavey:

[Glenn.]

Remind me when I’m 72 to go round calling people fags and telling young girls I’m going to come in them. I’ll be allowed to because I’m old

[Zizu]

Remind me when I’m 72 to go round calling people fags and telling young girls I’m going to come in them. I’ll be allowed to because I’m old


Different times …. You are really struggling with this aren’t you ..


Maybe signs of ageing …

[Beso]

Remind me when I’m 72 to go round calling people fags and telling young girls I’m going to come in them. I’ll be allowed to because I’m old

He didn't say he waa going to come inside her!.


And a young girl is about 12.

[Vanessa]

I don't think anyone was a bully in there. Itv in general are a lot less tolerant than channel 4 and channel 5.
They've had a convicted criminal win , Helen Wood who was quite the frankly horrendous and the likes of Connor even winning money

[Benjamin]

He didn't say he waa going to come inside her!.


And a young girl is about 12.

He said ‘you want me to cum in you’ to her.

[Beso]

He said ‘you want me to cum in you’ to her.

Because he thought that's what she said....he was asking for clarification.

[Benjamin]

Because he thought that's what she said....he was asking for clarification.

Yeah ok :rolleyes:

[Mystic Mock]

Remind me when I’m 72 to go round calling people fags and telling young girls I’m going to come in them. I’ll be allowed to because I’m old

Tbf, a lot of men would love to go inside Ella.

Admittedly, he could've worded it in a way that was far less crude.:laugh:

And I do 100% agree with you on the Jojo stuff.

[Mystic Mock]

He didn't say he waa going to come inside her!.


And a young girl is about 12.

He kind of did.:laugh:

[Swan]

Remind me when I’m 72 to go round calling people fags and telling young girls I’m going to come in them. I’ll be allowed to because I’m old

When you were 24 would you have wanted people to refer to you as a "young boy"?