New: Live Press Conference 12/5/25 PM Starmer 8:30AM (Legal Migrant Issue)

[arista]

Early
PM Starmer is making sure

GMBHD itv
BBC1AM
SkyNewsHD
GBnewsHD
LBC
Radio 5
Times Radio


All get him Loud and Clear.


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[Cherie]

Has smash the gangs been axed?

[arista]

Has smash the gangs been axed?

No, it is never-ending.

Nurse Homes fear he is going to halt
their legal workers.


Labour wants to be like Reform UK
is the general feeling.

Press are ready to ask questions

SkyNewsHD will show it in Full.


BBC 1 AM right now
has Richard Tice MP Live

[Cherie]

I feel its going to be a **** show, no one is worried about people coming here to work and the social care sector needs these workers, what people want stopped is 4 million a day spent on putting young men up in hotels, what does he not understand about that..

[arista]

I feel its going to be a **** show, no one is worried about people coming here to work and the social care sector needs these workers, what people want stopped is 4 million a day spent on putting young men up in hotels, what does he not understand about that..


There is a current problem
of illegal migrants (from hotels) working in Car Washes
more Cash for them

[arista]

PM Starmer now Live



He says he is changing the Rules?


He will now reduce Legal Immigration
He has a new white paper

Take Back Control Labour Party Version.

[Kate!]

FACEPALM

[arista]

Any Business
Who would like Legal Immigration
must now invest in the UK

[arista]

Questions:

Chris Mason (BBC), are you promising
to reduce immigration?

PM Starmer Yes
He will even take more measures

[arista]

Times asks about the 9million in UK
who will not work in a care home.

PM Starmer says some of them can not work.

Another asked about Illegal Migrants
that are going up?

PM Starmer said we are getting on with
trying to stop that.

[arista]

PM Starmer has now Concluded

[Beso]

Pity this move isn't designed to benifit the UK, it's for the Labour party and is nothing more than attempt to stop it crumbling. The public ain't stupid.

[Cherie]

You can't just put any unemployed people in a care home, caring is a vocation like nursing, putting any old bod in a care home is a receipe for disaster

[arista]

You can't just put any unemployed people in a care home, caring is a vocation like nursing, putting any old bod in a care home is a receipe for disaster

Yes, it can not be rushed
for PM Starmer

[Cherie]

Apparently there is a Bill going through the commons today that will give Asylum seekers the right to become citizens and age verification will be removed :joker: No wonder he never mentioned the boats

[arista]

Apparently there is a Bill going through the commons today that will give Asylum seekers the right to become citizens and age verification will be removed :joker: No wonder he never mentioned the boats


Yes Typical of PM Starmer

[arista]

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[Livia]

Care homes should be made to pay their staff better. Take a look a what care home owners drive... They can afford to pay more.

[joeysteele]

I'm not impressed at this joining in, even thinking of going on an anti immigrants line
It's a major issue admittedly but this not looking at them as human beings but as only negatively as numbers..
Isn't anything I can support or stand for.

However this is just a likely moving closer to the more rabid elements of the Reform lot.

This new move could take away or limit those very important people from other Countries and CULTURES, who work hard in our care sectors.
Just to please louder aggressive voices with prejudice against immigrants no matter what.

It will appeal to some I guess, it doesn't to me.
I'm not a supporter of any kind of being on the road of hate over hope or dividing over unity.
As to ALL citizens on Earth.
I want nothing to do with prejudice or anyone who holds prejudices against other human beings, no way.
They're more the people the UK would be better without.

[Beso]

Self loathing Brits, don't you just love em!

[arista]

[I'm not impressed at this joining in,
even thinking of going on an anti immigrants line]

Sure Joey
He wants to match Reform UK

[joeysteele]

[I'm not impressed at this joining in,
even thinking of going on an anti immigrants line]

Sure Joey
He wants to match Reform UK

Well, that's not ANYTHING I'd like or admire.
It's just scapegoating other people if other Countries for a series of governments, ( plural), failings.

[Cherie]

I honestly think Starmer has lost the plot, going for the pensioners, the disabled, the farmers, and now LEGAL migration which brings in tons of revenue via visa costs and Uni students ...... the man is literally looney

[arista]

Well, that's not ANYTHING I'd like or admire.
It's just scapegoating other people if other Countries for a series of governments, ( plural), failings.


His New White Paper
is going through Parliament.


Politics Live 12:15PM

BBC2HD


I record it.

[user104658]

Making it harder to get residence will do huge damage to Universities and the wider economy... it'll still be no issue getting the right to come and study, but once people have studied and graduated in a country, many of them (for obvious reasons) will then want to stay, not go back to their country of origin... and graduates are exactly the type of immigration that is nothing but a positive for the economy. Absolutely mental to say to the world "Well you can come and study and become an educated professional but then we're going to make it more difficult for you to stay and work here".

[Cherie]

And there is a shortage of care workers but he is going to make it more difficult for them to come into the country, I literally do not know what is going on at this stage :laugh:

[arista]

And their is a shortage of care workers but he is going to make it more difficult for them to come into the country, I literally do not know what is going on at this stage :laugh:


Yes, they need to come under
Essential Workers
In order to achieve the right amount.

[Oliver_W]

Yes, when people talk about migrants they always think "there are too many care workers."


What is Kier smoking ... cigarettes ??!!

[Cherie]

Yes, when people talk about migrants they always think "there are too many care workers."


What is Kier smoking ... cigarettes ??!!

You know when he says 'He gets it' he really doesn't, thinks everyone is racist and doesn't want migrant workers, when in reality people want the situation with the boats stopped and the use of tax payer funded hotels stopped, and processing upped and either get them out to work or back to wherever, maybe he thinks we are all too stupid to see what is what I just dont know

[arista]

On Ch5HDnews
Doctors are saying they need Qualified Staff.
He has 18 from abroad
out of his 24 staff at a Nursing Home.

[Cherie]

On Ch5HDnews
Doctors are saying they need Qualified Staff.
He has 18 from abroad
out of his 24 staff at a Nursing Home.

I am sure someone at the job centre can help? that seems to be the answer to the current woes, or maybe a disabled person can try out this job

[Cherie]

The Labour MP for Kent was just asked by Ian Dale who would fill the care worker gap, and the response was British workers :laugh: I would be worried if were unemployed looks like people will be fast tracked into the Care Sector

[joeysteele]

Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.

[The Slim Reaper]

Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.

I did try to warn everyone, and you specifically, numerous times; but all that achieved was having another poster crying on your behalf because I asked you the odd question now and again.

[The Slim Reaper]

Care homes should be made to pay their staff better. Take a look a what care home owners drive... They can afford to pay more.

Woke Marxism.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.

So sorry to hear that Joey, dont lose hope, you are one of the good ones, I can imagine that many MPs are in dismay and there is a growing rebellion about PIP cuts, I have a feeling Starmer wont go the distance as PM? He and Reeves are terrible, though I will say he does seem to come into his own with foreign affairs, but domestically he is totally out of touch

[thesheriff443]

I did try to warn everyone, and you specifically, numerous times; but all that achieved was having another poster crying on your behalf because I asked you the odd question now and again.

Back again and straight back to stirring the pot
You gave your opinion and people didn’t agree with you at the time so it’s time to move on.

[Ammi]

Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.


…Joey…:hug:..I feel so much for your sorrow, for your disappointment, for your disillusionment….:hug:….as you say, you generally wait before acting or making any huge decisions of any path in life…?….atm it feels almost impossible to find a visionary in politics and the only way that those visionaries will be seen and heard and hope to make any difference at all…?…is if they stay with their dreams …you’ll do what you feel is best, I know…:hug:…

[Oliver_W]

Normally I wait before acting.

However the last couple of months has seen a great number of Labour members, including myself, just regularly dismissed in trying to get our message across in the Winter fuel payment and the changes to the PIP criteria.
Totally dismissed by Ms Reeves.

This policy today though I see as well, awful.
The shaking of heads of care home heads said it all for me.
I haven't a clue what this government is.
Not a clue.

I had a personal dream to go into politics, I'd just about made the choice that would be with Labour.
However I cannot support this now looking more like anti immigration stance of this policy, and the more scapegoating of migrants.
My membership of the Labour party, I have terminated today.

Jeremy Corbyn today in parliament asked the purpose of this policy, and ended saying was it more just to please the Reform lot unfortunately sitting in front of him.
I think he was right to that last point.
The UK is now in my view, going down a very dangerously slippery road on scapegoating other human beings from other Countries and cultures by particularly Farage and Reform, for the failure of government decisions taken AND this ridiculous electoral system.

I'm now done with politics.
My votes now and all I'll do as trying to persuade friends and relatives on voting in future, will be to vote wherever, whenever for the best candidate, immaterial of Party, who would be best placed to beat any of Farage's Reform lot.
I really hate their divisive and scapegoating of migrants rhetoric.

Jeremy Corbyn, absolutely right today that this is another case of just pandering to their creating suspicion and fuelling hate against other human beings on Earth.
Politics now, definitely not for me.
In fact it's extremely sad to see where the UK could be heading now.
Nowhere nice at all in my view with the usual 2 main Parties charging up the backsides of Farage and the worryingly sinister Reform lot.

Sorry but reading this is like seeing someone realise the truth about Father Christmas when they're fourteen years old.

How has anything they've done so far helped the working classes, or vulnerable?

Were you clinging onto hope through their actions because you thought they might still support open(ish) borders?

[James]

A cynical interpretation is that they are playing 4D political chess moves - boosting the Reform agenda to weaken the Conservatives further, to make the next election Reform versus Labour.

They will hope that enough people won't want to see Reform be the biggest party and Labour will stay in government.

[bots]

Sorry but reading this is like seeing someone realise the truth about Father Christmas when they're fourteen years old.

How has anything they've done so far helped the working classes, or vulnerable?

Were you clinging onto hope through their actions because you thought they might still support open(ish) borders?

labour hadn't been in power for over 10 years, so the agenda of the current labour leadership hasn't become clear until they regained power. They said all the things expected of them in opposition so it would be a surprise to many labour members what the government are now prepared to do.

I compare labour with reform to the way the tories handled ukip under cameron. The tories took back the ukip vote by promising a brexit referendum. What labour are doing now is a very similar approach on immigration

[arista]

A cynical interpretation is that they are playing 4D political chess moves - boosting the Reform agenda to weaken the Conservatives further, to make the next election Reform versus Labour.

They will hope that enough people won't want to see Reform be the biggest party and Labour will stay in government.



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One on One


Nigel Farage MP would throttle PM Starmer

[joeysteele]

So sorry to hear that Joey, dont lose hope, you are one of the good ones, I can imagine that many MPs are in dismay and there is a growing rebellion about PIP cuts, I have a feeling Starmer wont go the distance as PM? He and Reeves are terrible, though I will say he does seem to come into his own with foreign affairs, but domestically he is totally out of touch

Thank you Cherie
I hesitated before posting how I felt now however I've been a strong political poster negatively and positively since joining TIBB.
So have now updated my present position.
So it's appreciated you understand that.

I never in a million years expected the policies now being presented by this government.
Now though out of the blue on near scapegoating migrants like the other lot do.

Right, I'm off to plan something far more pleasurable, the last 2 sets of matches in the premier league.

[joeysteele]

…Joey…:hug:..I feel so much for your sorrow, for your disappointment, for your disillusionment….:hug:….as you say, you generally wait before acting or making any huge decisions of any path in life…?….atm it feels almost impossible to find a visionary in politics and the only way that those visionaries will be seen and heard and hope to make any difference at all…?…is if they stay with their dreams …you’ll do what you feel is best, I know…:hug:…

Thank you too Ammi.
It is like a massive act of betrayal that's not just felt by me, however a growing number of other members and even MPs.

We worked hard and endlessly, not just through the days but planning activities at nights as to the canvassing the next days onwards.
When what you've said as the message given on doorsteps is then discarded once power was won.
Then that's a real hard blow.
Myself I have my own career and will be able to live without politics.
However I also am looking at the Labour members who have been members for many decades.
Pensioners who came out in the election to deliver leaflets and help the cause as they saw it then.
Who now also feel severely let down.
The last meeting I was at, the number of heads shaking in disbelief were incredible.
So made my decision, not easy, because I don't break loyalty to people or causes easily.
However this running up the backside of Farage and Reform by Labour now, was way too much to try to accept along with other policies done which were unexpected too.

[joeysteele]

I did try to warn everyone, and you specifically, numerous times; but all that achieved was having another poster crying on your behalf because I asked you the odd question now and again.

I send you my apologies because you indeed were far more correct.
I didn't see, what you it seems had the foresight to see.

So my apologies again for my dismissal of your views over those times.

[Oliver_W]

Kemi is Badenoch, Starmer is Worse Enoch.

[The Slim Reaper]

I send you my apologies because you indeed were far more correct.
I didn't see, what you it seems had the foresight to see.

So my apologies again for my dismissal of your views over those times.

You don't owe me an apology, Joey. I just wished that you wouldn't have ignored the obvious, and at the same time I apologise for maybe being a little over-zealous at times, but I just wanted to shake you awake.

Join the green party, and get behind Zack Polanski, who is currently the only person offering an alternative to this right wing hellscape of an island.

[The Slim Reaper]

Back again and straight back to stirring the pot
You gave your opinion and people didn’t agree with you at the time so it’s time to move on.

What did I write to stir the pot? Everything was 100% factually accurate, but I didn't realise you'd been made a back seat mod whilst I was away. Congrats, my brother.

For the bit in bold - The topic we were discussing had nothing to do with opinions, it had to do with what was true and what wasn't; leading to disastrous consequences for the present and future of this country.

[arista]

[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,

[joeysteele]

[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,

No, I won't be joining the Greens, you are right in that arista.

[arista]

No, I won't be joining the Greens, you are right in that arista.


Good News.

You are a Sound Fella

Your help your Community
That is all that matters.

[arista]

Just Live on LBC

A Doctor phoned in
He was originally in Afghanistan.

But he was in France, working
as Doctor but left 8 years ago as
they wanted immigrant workers out.


Now, he is in the UK,
shocked that PM Stamer
is like Reform UK.



He also said it is good to see the Patient
Who had a heart attack, smiling
After they saved him.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

[Join the green party,]

No Slim
they are full of Extremists,

Joey has more sense than that,

Please explain what you mean by extremists?

[arista]

Please explain what you mean by extremists?


Extreme Far Left.

[The Slim Reaper]

Extreme Far Left.

Fully funded NHS? An end to austerity? I'm just wondering what you find extreme about them, especially as a reform supporter?

[arista]

Fully funded NHS? An end to austerity? I'm just wondering what you find extreme about them, especially as a reform supporter?

I am not a Reform UK
member.

But I will post News about them

[The Slim Reaper]

I am not a Reform UK
member.

But I will post News about them

Who will you vote for? I didn't say you were a member.

What are the extreme policies of the far left green party?

[arista]

Who will you vote for? I didn't say you were a member.

What are the extreme policies of the far left green party?



Do not know who I will vote for, yet


A hell of a lot can change in 4 years



Slim, who do you back?

[The Slim Reaper]

Do not know who I will vote for, yet


A hell of a lot can change in 4 years



Slim, who do you back?

I will vote green. They have removed the joint leadership gimmick, and will now vote Zack Polanski as it's leader. He is the only political leader in this country, that is offering anything different to austerity and racism. I voted green in the last election, too.

Who did you vote for?

[arista]

I will vote green. They have removed the joint leadership gimmick, and will now vote Zack Polanski as it's leader. He is the only political leader in this country, that is offering anything different to austerity and racism. I voted green in the last election, too.

Who did you vote for?



OK Green for You.

I voted Labour, for once

[The Slim Reaper]

OK Green for You.

I voted Labour, for once

You voted labour at the last general? Jeez, I was completely wrong about that.

How do you think they are doing?

[arista]

You voted labour at the last general? Jeez, I was completely wrong about that.

How do you think they are doing?


Not Happy with PM Starmer now

[The Slim Reaper]

Not Happy with PM Starmer now

Is it because he is attacking the poorest/disabled/pensioners? I guess you like his immigration stuff?

[The Slim Reaper]

Peter Obourne is a tory from the age of an actual centre right existing. He is not left wing.

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[The Slim Reaper]

Sorry for spamming tweets, but the articles are valid.

Think this is the beginning of the end for Starmer. The only concern is someone like Streeting, kendall, or Reeves taking the position

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[Beso]

Are news anchormen on Australia's sky news where we go to now for our British politics?

[Oliver_W]

Sorry for spamming tweets, but the articles are valid.

Think this is the beginning of the end for Starmer. The only concern is someone like Streeting, kendall, or Reeves taking the position

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Labour leaders aren't easy to get rid of though. He can and probably will just ignore anything but a full scale uprising.

And as you say, what would be the point? It would only be "worth" ousting him if the entire beastly cohort that haunts the front bench goes too ... and chances are one of them would be the replacement.

[arista]

Is it because he is attacking the poorest/disabled/pensioners? I guess you like his immigration stuff?


Hold on Slim,
He is still looking for an EU Nation


He is stupid to get this in the news
Before he has an agreement
With another nation.


So no
Not liking him at this time