Doctor Who actor Ncuti Gatwa has been axed from the show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

shambles

go woke go broke

DOCTOR Who self-obsessed dimwit Ncuti Gatwa has been axed by the BBC after two series.

Woke storylines have seen ratings plummet. The actor is off after two series
with no replacement likely for the Time Lord’s regeneration on May 31.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/35081418/doctor-who-woke-ncuti-gatwa-axed-ratings/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrlRHhCXcAAk5WH?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

[Doctor Who's leading man Ncuti Gatwa
has reportedly been axed by the
BBC after two series.
According to reports, there is currently no
replacement for the beloved Time Lord.
The actor has reportedly been fired
by the company after he backed
out of hosting the Eurovision
Song Contest last weekend.]

1 hour ago



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[Barry.]

Interesting, so he pulled out over his views? All he had to do was call out numbers, It's not like Israel got the jury votes

[Glenn.]

The Sun


:joker:

I’ll wait for an official announcement

[Barry.]

The Sun


:joker:

I’ll wait for an official announcement

What do they mean by woke? Because he's gay?

[Glenn.]

What do they mean by woke? Because he's gay?


Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

[OLLIE97]

I do think Ncuti has gone. It's been a persistent rumour amongst fans for months; nothing to with Eurovision.

[Glenn.]

Also if he has left which given the fact that the finale will air simultaneously worldwide with the BBC is probably likely, it’s been planned for a long time. He has other commitments for other projects I think. Saying he’s been axed is hilarious. It was definitely a well planned exit. If true of course.

[Swan]

Not seen a single Dr Who episode in full in my life, doesn't interest me. No matter who (sic) the Dr is, i couldn't give a toss really.

[Barry.]

Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

I'm shocked! But really, it was bound to happen in our lifetime. Don't see the problem. I go in and out of Dr Who but he didn't seem too bad. I remember the outrage when a girl played Dr Who lol. People will moan at anything these days

[Glenn.]

I'm shocked! But really, it was bound to happen in our lifetime. Don't see the problem. I go in and out of Dr Who but he didn't seem too bad. I remember the outrage when a girl played Dr Who lol. People will moan at anything these days


The same ones that will say ‘I’m not racist but’

It’s a show about a two hearted face changing alien. It’s literally not real.
They’re just very very sad individuals

[arista]

The Sun


:joker:

I’ll wait for an official announcement


This is not, from the Sun.



[Doctor Who's leading man Ncuti Gatwa
has reportedly been axed by the
BBC after two series.
According to reports, there is currently no
replacement for the beloved Time Lord.
The actor has reportedly been fired
by the company after he backed
out of hosting the Eurovision
Song Contest last weekend.]

1 hour ago

[Mystic Mock]

Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

[Zizu]

I watched ten minutes of Dr Who before the Eurovision Song Contest !!

What a load of garbage

[Swan]

I watched ten minutes if DrWho before the Eurovision Song Contest !!

What a load of garbage

Most overrated show on TV, always has been

[bots]

The actors help, but they can't do a lot without good writing and bad writing has spanned several doctors now.

The beauty of doctor who was it's ability appeal to adults and children alike, and that has long gone

[Mystic Mock]

The actors help, but they can't do a lot without good writing and bad writing has spanned several doctors now.

The beauty of doctor who was it's ability appeal to adults and children alike, and that has long gone

Too true on both points.

[Mystic Mock]

Isn't it a bit harsh to call him a dimwit?:laugh:

[Kate!]

Isn't it a bit harsh to call him a dimwit?:laugh:

No. He's a fool.

[Mystic Mock]

No. He's a fool.

I know that he has some opinions about Israel.

But has he said or done anything else that makes him someone that I should have a problem with?

[Strictly Jake]

Actually I've found this latest series really good, and I think he's a really good actor. I'd say its more the story writers that make doctor who woke lately, but as I say a lot of this series episodes have been good.

I think Doctor who has probably had its day now anyway

[Zizu]

Actually I've found this latest series really good, and I think he's a really good actor. I'd say its more the story writers that make doctor who woke lately, but as I say a lot of this series episodes have been good.

I think Doctor who has probably had its day now anyway


Judging by the episode preceding the Song Contest … definitely !!

[Glenn.]

This is not, from the Sun.



[Doctor Who's leading man Ncuti Gatwa
has reportedly been axed by the
BBC after two series.
According to reports, there is currently no
replacement for the beloved Time Lord.
The actor has reportedly been fired
by the company after he backed
out of hosting the Eurovision
Song Contest last weekend.]

1 hour ago

The bits in brackets are from the Sun. The sun who think that with two episodes to go, episodes that are complete, that a regeneration can be tacked on. It’s just rage bait for right wingers. Hence why LT posted a thread about it littered with with the word WOKE.

The likelihood is that Ncuti IS probably leaving. Next weeks episode is going to be simultaneously aired around the world to stop spoilers. An event pre planned months ago.

[Glenn.]

Actually I've found this latest series really good, and I think he's a really good actor. I'd say its more the story writers that make doctor who woke lately, but as I say a lot of this series episodes have been good.

I think Doctor who has probably had its day now anyway

This series has been really good. I wonder how many episodes LT has watched this year.

[Mystic Mock]

This series has been really good. I wonder how many episodes LT has watched this year.

I'll guess that it's lower than 3:think:

[Zizu]

Most overrated show on TV, always has been


Totally agree !!

[Zizu]

Maybe they could rename it Dr Why ?

[Glenn.]

What for?

[Denver]

What for?

For supporting Palestine

[Denver]

And his replacement is heavily rumoured to be mon other than Billie Piper, if they go down that route it's strange seeing as she played the most iconic assistant in the shows history

[Nicky91]

What for?

for having a own opinion


apparently we live in Russia nowadays :rolleyes:

[Zizu]

And his replacement is heavily rumoured to be mon other than Billie Piper, if they go down that route it's strange seeing as she played the most iconic assistant in the shows history


Billie Eilish and I may watch

[arista]

And his replacement is heavily rumoured to be non other than Billie Piper, if they go down that route it's strange seeing as she played the most iconic assistant in the shows history


Billie Piper
will make a good change


If it works



[ DOCTOR WHO: Billie Piper has been cast as the 16th Doctor
TV

The latest Doctor Who season has been
plagued with leaks - all of this information
originates from a source known as Andrew,
a YouTube commentator who
frequently shares alleged Doctor Who leaks
in the comment sections of various videos.
Notably, his track record has been
accurate so far — correctly revealing key
details such as the plot of episode 1,
that episode 3 would serve as a sequel
to the Series 4 episode Midnight,
the return of the Fugitive Doctor,
the reappearance of Susan,
and the reveal that Mrs Flood
is actually the Rani.

He has now stated that Billie Piper
has been cast as the 16th Doctor,
who will make her introduction
at the end of the series finale followed
by a surprise regeneration from the
15th Doctor, played bt Ncuti Gatwa.

A breakdown of the reports can be found here - https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/rumor-billie-piper-considered-to ]

[Mystic Mock]

:joker:

That's satire right?

We're having assistants now playing the role of The Doctor?

[Ammi]

…I’m not a Dr Who watcher but I believe that it isn’t in any way confirmed to be Billie Piper…it is though said to be someone who has appeared in the series in the past so a familiar face…but still no confirmation of who…

[Glenn.]

Fingers crossed for Jo Martin

[Ammi]

:joker:

That's satire right?

We're having assistants now playing the role of The Doctor?

…well there is another way of looking at that, Mock…why does a female Doctor have an apprenticeship …/be an assistant first…when the male Doctors get that top job without having to serve their assistant time…:fan:…hmmmmmmm….also, maybe if there were more assistants in that top The Doctor, job…and working their way through experience…?…we might not see Doctor changes so often, also a thought…

[Mystic Mock]

…well there is another way of looking at that, Mock…why does a female Doctor have an apprenticeship …/be an assistant first…when the male Doctors get that top job without having to serve their assistant time…:fan:…hmmmmmmm….also, maybe if there were more assistants in that top The Doctor, job…and working their way through experience…?…we might not see Doctor changes so often, also a thought…

:laugh:

[Vanessa]

Brink back David Tennant. My favourite Dr Who

[Crimson Dynamo]

Brink back David Tennant. My favourite Dr Who

He just cost ITV a fortune with his latest total disater "The Genuis Game"

"Yet despite a hefty £2.5 million budget, it has been a disaster for ITV and become one of the network's biggest ratings flops in years."

[jones89]

Yeah i don’t see an issue. I don’t watch the show or anything, not since the Billie Piper days :love: but they always switch the actors up every few seasons… and not a fan of him or anything but i doubt he’ll struggle for work

[Ammi]

Yeah i don’t see an issue. I don’t watch the show or anything, not since the Billie Piper days :love: but they always switch the actors up every few seasons… and not a fan of him or anything but i doubt he’ll struggle for work

…I had read that he was going to focus on the USA for work but that I’m not sure of…his Dr Who has, though…been immortalised and tributed in a Barbie figure…I mean, of course…that’s probably why he took the part…:laugh:..


https://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/national/25186794.ncuti-gatwa-emotional-see-doctor-barbie-doll/

[user104658]

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

It's well established though that the regenerations are not just a "face change", it's still essentially the same person with the same memories but the entire personality can change; one of the clearest examples of that was Matt Smith > Peter Capaldi and they covered it quite well in the episode... having the dying Smith-doctor call Clara from the past to explain to her that she might have to really "look deep" to see that it's still him, because he might seem very different. But they all change their style, quirks, personal likes and dislikes, mannerisms etc... no reason different regenerations wouldn't find themselves attracted to different people.

Besides; Eccleston and Smith's doctors were blatantly bisexual-ish / "down for whatever" and Capaldi was for all intents and purposes entirely asexual. Tennant had an eye for the ladies definitely but other than that, doctor's an alien... I don't think he could ever have been classed as "straight".

[bots]

I don't want to out and out criticise doctor who for the last 5+ years, but it's writing just isn't for me. It's always been "quirky" and people either like it or they don't, and i'm firmly in the don't category in its current phase

[Glenn.]

You can guarantee when there’s a new doctor, probably a white male, all this talk of woke will suddenly stop.

[user104658]

I don't want to out and out criticise doctor who for the last 5+ years, but it's writing just isn't for me. It's always been "quirky" and people either like it or they don't, and i'm firmly in the don't category in its current phase

I think the writing is technically better now than it was in the "Chibnall era" but I think one of the major issues it currently has is that RTD has become very, very self-indulgent and it's never a good thing when writers or showrunners start getting over-confident. I also think it's always been a better show when it goes a little darker... there's not been much darkness that doesn't feel a bit forced.

Basically they're quite stuck on this "After all, it was always intended to be a family/kids show!" when frankly that just is NOT the current audience... the current audience is mainly young adults who may have been kids when this run started, back in 2005, but they are definitely not now. They need to start writing for an older audience. That doesn't mean kids can't watch it... but I'm not saying it needs to go full violence-and-swearing, it can have complex/adult themes and you can trust younger people watching to figure out those themes. Kids don't just want to watch "kid stuff", that's kind of the point... us 90's kids grew up asking to stay up late to watch The X Files etc. it's fine to let kids watch shows written for adults!

[Oliver_W]

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

His entire body changes, presumably including his endocrine system and neurology etc ... why wouldn't that change his sexuality occasionally?

[Mystic Mock]

It's well established though that the regenerations are not just a "face change", it's still essentially the same person with the same memories but the entire personality can change; one of the clearest examples of that was Matt Smith > Peter Capaldi and they covered it quite well in the episode... having the dying Smith-doctor call Clara from the past to explain to her that she might have to really "look deep" to see that it's still him, because he might seem very different. But they all change their style, quirks, personal likes and dislikes, mannerisms etc... no reason different regenerations wouldn't find themselves attracted to different people.

Besides; Eccleston and Smith's doctors were blatantly bisexual-ish / "down for whatever" and Capaldi was for all intents and purposes entirely asexual. Tennant had an eye for the ladies definitely but other than that, doctor's an alien... I don't think he could ever have been classed as "straight".

Speaking for myself (and I think quite a few other people) when I say that some people do like to see traits of a character stay intact when a recast is happening, and a character's sexuality being changed on a whim after decades of the character being written to have the leading lady being his love interest, is going to feel odd for a lot of the audience.

Don't forget it will alter character dynamics when Shows do these kinds of changes just for the sake of it.

For example I don't know if you've watched Sense8? But if it got a remake and they didn't make Nomi a Transwoman who is also a Lesbian type of character, it again would change her dynamics on the Show to some extent.

[Mystic Mock]

You can guarantee when there’s a new doctor, probably a white male, all this talk of woke will suddenly stop.

You're probably right tbh.

Even though the Show will probably still sledgehammer home some environmental storyline somewhere within the season.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

His entire body changes, presumably including his endocrine system and neurology etc ... why wouldn't that change his sexuality occasionally?

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

[Oliver_W]

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

Based on how similar 11 was to 12, and either of them were to 13?

They were all pretty different, apart from the core "Doctorish" Values.

[Liam-]

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

For anything other than Dr. Who maybe

[Liam-]

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

No wonder this franchise is in the mud

[Oliver_W]

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

Exactly. In tragically online terminology, Doc has long been "biromantic acesexual."

And even if one incarnation has a preferential leaning for one gender, there's more to a character than that.

(Posted in 2025)

[Glenn.]

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

No one cared about that until a black gay man was the lead.

And the only people who are triggered by it, don’t even watch it.

[Barry.]

Dr Who has been crap for a while, it had nothing to do with the female doctor or black doctor. They need to think about the next series carefully and make the writing better

[Mystic Mock]

For anything other than Dr. Who maybe

Including Doctor Who.

[Mystic Mock]

Based on how similar 11 was to 12, and either of them were to 13?

They were all pretty different, apart from the core "Doctorish" Values.

But controversially Doctor Who has had problems for a very long time.

Long before Jodie Whittaker came along, and it's due to the Show lacking consistency in it's writing, which is important to every TV Show out there.

[Mystic Mock]

Anybody who has ever watched Who consistently, especially since the rebirth, knows that that the doctor is essentially simultaneously bisexual and asexual at any given time, this theory that he’s suddenly been turned gay is frankly ridiculous

Who was Christopher Eccleston's main love interest?

Who was David Tennant's main love interest?

If I'm not mistaken in the early episodes of the Matt Smith era they did have him and Amy Pond flirting with each other, until admittedly Moffat backed away from the idea.

It's simply not true what you're saying.

[Mystic Mock]

Dr Who has been crap for a while, it had nothing to do with the female doctor or black doctor. They need to think about the next series carefully and make the writing better

That's 100% true.

The Show has had issues since Tennant left, and got really bad starting in the Capaldi era.

And controversially with some people, I honestly don't think that there is any issues with a black lead in Doctor Who, because on paper it shouldn't have issues with altered character dynamics.

[Liam-]

Who was Christopher Eccleston's main love interest?

Who was David Tennant's main love interest?

If I'm not mistaken in the early episodes of the Matt Smith era they did have him and Amy Pond flirting with each other, until admittedly Moffat backed away from the idea.

It's simply not true what you're saying.

The only real ‘love interest’ there’s ever been was River Song and even if what you’re implying was true, about the companions, it’s a canon fact that the doctor has had ‘flings’ with men before in his pas, your refusal to accept that and just barrel on with this misguided belief that they’ve made the doctor gay, which they haven’t done btw, completely out of the blue is based on nothing

[Mystic Mock]

The only real ‘love interest’ there’s ever been was River Song and even if what you’re implying was true, about the companions, it’s a canon fact that the doctor has had ‘flings’ with men before in his pas, your refusal to accept that and just barrel on with this misguided belief that they’ve made the doctor gay, which they haven’t done btw, completely out of the blue is based on nothing

Fair enough.

I think that we're just going to have to respectfully agree to disagree on this topic, after all Doctor Who especially is a Show where people rarely ever agree with each other.:laugh:

[arista]

The Final Doctor Who
is 6:50PM tonight BBC1HD

[Livia]

The Final Doctor Who
is 6:50PM tonight BBC1HD

Good. I hope they get back to great stories and leave the woke preaching out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Worst episode ever? Why Space Babies doomed Doctor Who

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2025/05/30/TELEMMGLPICT000426687971_17486138453390_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQf-0Jyi0jPPD6Zx1hiwTPhlc.jpeg?imwidth=720

“Space Babies was at the extreme end of light and fluffy,” says Rob Irwin, co-host of The Doctor Who Podcast. “To be running around a spaceship with some babies and a ‘snot monster’ – who was really just misunderstood [he was revealed to be a pet] – put some fans off from the start.”

Many never returned. Ratings for Davies’s second tilt at Who have nose-dived ever since

So sharp has been the spiral – down 800,000 on 2024 and two million fewer than the not-especially-loved Jodie Whittaker era

But for sheer silliness Space Babies nonetheless took the interstellar biscuit – and a backlash against it has been building among the fanbase ever since, to the point where the episode arguably threatens to overshadow the entirety of the Gatwa era.

The hope was that this new era was going to fix all the issues and bring back Doctor Who. But what we got was Space Babies. That is what broke people’s hearts.”

Go woke, go broke

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/doctor-who-space-babies-ncuti-gatwa/?recomm_id=4095eefd4267bc954e03585726affd0c

[emseateng2014]

imagine the dr who fan fiction multiverses going nuts

[Mystic Mock]

Worst episode ever? Why Space Babies doomed Doctor Who

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2025/05/30/TELEMMGLPICT000426687971_17486138453390_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQf-0Jyi0jPPD6Zx1hiwTPhlc.jpeg?imwidth=720

“Space Babies was at the extreme end of light and fluffy,” says Rob Irwin, co-host of The Doctor Who Podcast. “To be running around a spaceship with some babies and a ‘snot monster’ – who was really just misunderstood [he was revealed to be a pet] – put some fans off from the start.”

Many never returned. Ratings for Davies’s second tilt at Who have nose-dived ever since

So sharp has been the spiral – down 800,000 on 2024 and two million fewer than the not-especially-loved Jodie Whittaker era

But for sheer silliness Space Babies nonetheless took the interstellar biscuit – and a backlash against it has been building among the fanbase ever since, to the point where the episode arguably threatens to overshadow the entirety of the Gatwa era.

The hope was that this new era was going to fix all the issues and bring back Doctor Who. But what we got was Space Babies. That is what broke people’s hearts.”

Go woke, go broke

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/doctor-who-space-babies-ncuti-gatwa/?recomm_id=4095eefd4267bc954e03585726affd0c

The writing really nose dived after Matt Smith left imo, and his era was a drop from Tennant's.

[arista]

Episode 6 of 8

Started with Rylan Clark
Presenting a future pop show.


They should have made him look Older.

Then it goes into small studio setups (at Wolf Studios Wales, Cardiff)
with a few actors.

I assume they were making this for the US market?

[arista]

(Go woke, go broke)

Sadly True LT.

[Nicky91]

if you're in cryostasis you'll look the same though, so they did do that part right


for example, in the video game Fallout 4, your character regardless of gender (Depending on who you choose to play as) also remains frozen for many many years, and also still looks the same as before he/she went into that stasis pod

[arista]

Ncuti Gatwa
said never say never

About a later return.


On BBC1HD, Laura's show.

[arista]

He also stated,
He did pull out of doing Eurovision,
due to the Dr.Who leaving.

[emseateng2014]

i thought doctor who 2022 season 2 aka doctor who 2005 season 15 was a half half ok season

but its not compared to the old days from the early 2005 era aka the before disney took over days like when the doctors had sidekicks aka companions like rose taylor captain jack donna noble amy pond river song and rory williams and they took on many many mutants metahumans aliens and machines on screen and off screen like darleks and cybermen aka cyber people many times