Car was Driven by CEO Paul Doyle & hit Liverpool Parade Crowd: serious injuries

[arista]

Police have arrested him.


When someone told him, he then reversed fast
over some people


All News


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14751183/Liverpools-trophy-parade-chaos-car-collides-crowd-fans-Premier-League-title.html

[Livia]

Jesus... Wonder how long it'll take to get any information. Starmer monitoring social media in case anyone says anything...

Should have been a wonderful day for Liverpool. Heartbreaking...

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/26/18/98766363-14751183-image-a-19_1748280842984.jpg

[arista]

He Delebrity, drove into them,


A Person 5 feet away.

Mark White, security reporter
has just reported


Someone has flimed him.

Too Graphic to show on TV,
the reporter said

[Livia]

They should maybe have let the fans have him.

[Kate!]

This is terrible. A friend just told me.

[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

They should maybe have let the fans have him.


I wondered how he’d survived the crowd’s anger but then maybe he had a heart failure at the wheel or something


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[Livia]

I wondered how he’d survived the crowd’s anger but then maybe he had a heart failure at the wheel or something


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I will run through serious debates naked if this was an accident.

[arista]

I wondered how he’d survived the crowd’s anger but then maybe he had a heart failure at the wheel or something





Police Got the driver
before the crowd

[arista]

Terrorism
I say.

[Livia]

Terrorism
I say.

I agree.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/26/18/98766425-14751183-image-a-50_1748282250949.jpg

[Strictly Jake]

Oh hell, this shouldn't ever be happening but it's seems to be on the rise this sort of thing it's so scary

[arista]

Police confirm the Evil Man is 53
and White British Man.


SkyNewsHD Live


Even on CNN HD now

[arista]

Police have said please do not speculate.


Soon a Statement

[arista]

Police had to pepper spray the Driver

[Livia]

Being a white man doesn't mean he's not a terrorist.

[Kate!]

Being a white man doesn't mean he's not a terrorist.

Exactly Liv. I've just said this same thing.

[Niamh.]

Absolutely awful

[bots]

I would have let the fans have him

[Beso]

Not sure what his colour has to do with things.. but isn't it interesting that you only get instant colour confirmation when they are white.

[Strictly Jake]

They should maybe have let the fans have him.

Seen quite a few angles of the attack now. And the crowd were quick to get at the car, the police were struggling to keep them back, police should have just let the crowd do it

[AnnieK]

Just awful....the streets would have been packed with lots of kids there too.

[arista]

Police would like any footage
sent to them

[Strictly Jake]

Police would like any footage
sent to them

There's tons on Facebook. I regret watching them actually but they definitely have good evidence from them

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/26/20/98768081-0-image-m-7_1748286292816.jpg

[arista]

1,000's of public were there

Easy Target for the Terrorist

[arista]

Large Image of the Car
after the arrest

https://e3.365dm.com/25/05/2048x1152/skynews-liverpool-car-crash_6928124.jpg?20250526194011

[arista]

Counter Terrorist Police
now looking into this.

We need a Statement

[Strictly Jake]

No fatalities yet reported, hopefully there won't be any, but there will be a lot of life changing injuries and trauma from it, he went into so many people

[Beso]

Police have said please do not speculate.


Soon a Statement




Whilst we all watch the news channels speculating..:shrug:

[Denver]

People don't understand why they realised a white man is a terrorist? We live in a world where the murderous ethical cleaning land stealing Isreal are idolised and we are already on the cusp of a race war, hopefully the scumbag is giving the worse torture ever

[Denver]

It's took the likes of Tony Robinson and Ant Middleton 10 seconds after the crash to tell there followers is was a Muslim, that's the world we live in

[Beso]

It's took the likes of Tony Robinson and Ant Middleton 10 seconds after the crash to tell there followers is was a Muslim, that's the world we live in

Simply not true.:nono:

[Cherie]

The police have a lot to answer for here, how on earth did they leave roads open so a car could drive down, have no lessons been learned at all

[thesheriff443]

The police have a lot to answer for here, how on earth did they leave roads open so a car could drive down, have no lessons been learned at all

I read the parade was coming to an end so maybe they let some cars through when things wind down

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/26/21/98769443-14751183-image-a-18_1748291271451.jpg

[Ninastar]

Could it be someone who hates Liverpool fc? What kind of crime would that be? Like have ppl ever been injured like this because of sports? Wild

[arista]

Police speak 10:30PM

[Niamh.]

Could it be someone who hates Liverpool fc? What kind of crime would that be? Like have ppl ever been injured like this because of sports? WildIt would be absolutely mental if that were the case

[Ninastar]

It would be absolutely mental if that were the case

Is that what they were celebrating? I kind of just assumed so

[Niamh.]

Is that what they were celebrating? I kind of just assumed soOh yeah they were, I mean it would be mental if the motivation was that the guy doesn't like the football club

[Redway]

Could it be someone who hates Liverpool fc? What kind of crime would that be? Like have ppl ever been injured like this because of sports? Wild

For all we know it could’ve been someone having a medical episode (an attack of severe torticolis, a seizure, a stroke). If that’s not the case then I hope he’s thrown to the dogs but none of us actually know for-sure whether this was an act of terrorism or he was ill.

[Niamh.]

For all we know it could’ve been someone having a medical episode (an attack of severe torticolis, a seizure, a stroke). If that’s not the case then I hope he’s thrown to the dogs but none of us actually know for-sure whether this was an act of terrorism or he was ill.Ir didn't look that way from videos I've seen, he changed direction into where people were during it

[Ninastar]

Wouldn’t he have been taken straight to the hospital rather than arrested if it was a medical emergency?

[Redway]

Ir didn't look that way from videos I've seen, he changed direction into where people were during it

Yh, no, I know it looks bad but I think I just want to await official findings before making definitive judgements. Again, if it really is not an accident, I hope they throw him to the wolves, obviously.

[arista]

Police are now Live

[arista]

Assistant Chief Constable, Police Lady speaking.


Not Terrorism she states

[arista]

Not enough information was given to
us by that Police Lady.
Typical.



Now ambulance man.


4 injured were children.


1 Child has serious injuries


6:07PM
Fire crews lifted a car off people

[LaLaLand]

Absolutely awful. My cousins were there, said they heard all the screaming and commotion but were luckily away from the actual incident, further down the street.

[arista]

Absolutely awful. My cousins were there, said they heard all the screaming and commotion but were luckily away from the actual incident, further down the street.


Thats good news
at least

[arista]

[Liverpool parade carnage: Driver smashed into men, women
and children at league title party before bystanders
screaming 'kill him' dragged driver out - police update
on casualties is imminent]


[Health Secretary Wes Streeting said:
'I would like to thank our amazing emergency
services for their heroic actions
this evening in Liverpool.

'My heart goes out to everyone impacted
in this horrible incident.

'My department is working with
NHS England to keep across any
developments for our NHS staff.']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14751313/Liverpool-trophy-parade-latest-updates-car-crowds.html

[arista]

The Car


Police using a baton to smash
the window

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/26/22/98768113-14751183-Authorities_say_both_Prime_Minister_Keir_Starmer_a nd_Home_Secret-a-11_1748293758442.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Barry.]

Terrible. What goes through the mind of someone like that, with young children there. Awful awful

[Liam-]

Assistant Chief Constable, Police Lady speaking.


Not Terrorism she states

Because it was a white man

[arista]

Because it was a white man


Possibly

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

[Liverpool parade incident: Two people - including a
child - seriously injured after car drives into crowd

A 53-year-old white British man from the
Liverpool area has been arrested.
Merseyside Police is urging the public
not to speculate on social media.]


https://news.sky.com/story/liverpool-parade-incident-two-people-including-child-seriously-injured-after-car-drives-into-crowd-13375148

[arista]

4 people were under his car.

[arista]

The Times Newspaper
says

He came out of a bar, got into his car..........

[Barry.]

No deaths, praying it stays that way

[Redway]

The Times Newspaper
says

He came out of a bar, got into his car..........

I’ve never understood why a lot of people think driving drunk is a good idea. It can be the unveiling of malicious intent in people who have that kind of evil mind and even with the best of people it can at the very least just get you into accidents/havoc you don’t need. Driving under the influence of anything isn’t a good idea at-all but I’d rather be in the passengers’ seat of a stoned than drunk driver’s car.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh hell, this shouldn't ever be happening but it's seems to be on the rise this sort of thing it's so scary

I swear that society is regressing mentally.

I honestly hope that the injured all pull through, and what a traumatic day for the children that were there.

[Mystic Mock]

Absolutely awful. My cousins were there, said they heard all the screaming and commotion but were luckily away from the actual incident, further down the street.

At least your Cousins are safe.

[Zizu]

This is supposedly the driver … but maybe complete hogwash

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[Ammi]

Absolutely awful. My cousins were there, said they heard all the screaming and commotion but were luckily away from the actual incident, further down the street.

…how terrifying for them and for you all…:hug:. I’m glad that you found out quite quickly that they were ok…a huge impact on you all, though…

[Ammi]

…it’s just impossible to imagine the mindset of someone who does something so horrific…to indiscriminately cause harm in such a way without a care or thought of life loss…it’s fortunate that there was no loss of life and it’s fortunate that there were minimal serious physical injuries…but emotionally/mentally for those hurt and those witnessing that hurt/hearing the screams of terror is also a life changing ‘injury’ …


…it’s difficult to find words, so many lives/worlds completely changed right now…

[AnnieK]

This is supposedly the driver … but maybe complete hogwash

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He looks much younger than 53

[Ammi]

This is supposedly the driver … but maybe complete hogwash

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…yeah I would say complete hogwash…as Annie said, that’s not a 53yr old man…is that social media…?…honestly, put it down…

[Ammi]

…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….

[Cherie]

…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….

Of course its ridiculous to say its not terror

[thesheriff443]

I’ve never understood why a lot of people think driving drunk is a good idea. It can be the unveiling of malicious intent in people who have that kind of evil mind and even with the best of people it can at the very least just get you into accidents/havoc you don’t need. Driving under the influence of anything isn’t a good idea at-all but I’d rather be in the passengers’ seat of a stoned than drunk driver’s car.

If you are in the passenger seat while a stoned person is driving then you are just as much an idiot as the driver

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs is illegal

And for your information it’s the same mindset that it’s fine to do so sees drunk people get into cars and drive

[Cherie]

This is supposedly the driver … but maybe complete hogwash

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53? I don't think so

[Zizu]

He looks much younger than 53


Yeah true .. maybe it was a bogus post


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[Zizu]

TalkSport reporting dozens were injured including 4 children


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[Mystic Mock]

…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….

I 100% agree with you.

Nearly everything this psycho did would be called terrorism if it was a member of Hamas that had committed the offense, so I feel like that it should be classed under the terrorism umbrella for this guy.

[Ammi]

TalkSport reporting dozens were injured including 4 children


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…the article this morning that I read said the most severe of the injured was one duly and one child particularly so I don’t know if they were together…parent and child, type thing…

[AnnieK]

Yeah true .. maybe it was a bogus post


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You never know though.

[Zizu]

Is it terrorism if he was absolutely pizzed off his head ( straight out of a boozer)! ?


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[AnnieK]

Of course its ridiculous to say its not terror

They said Southport wasn't terror related too.....:bored:

[Nicky91]

this was no terrorism, this is a 53 yr old british citizens who did this


although i wonder what political views he got, is he anti-foreigners/Pro-Reform?


wouldn't be the first far right wacko to pull off something like this though, since you also see this from far right supporters in germany

[Niamh.]

This is supposedly the driver … but maybe complete hogwash

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He doesn't look 53

[MTVN]

Personally think we should be careful about broadening the definition of terrorism. If we just call every serious crime an act of terror then we might fail to address the roots of actual terrorism properly - that which is driven by dangerous ideologies. Plus anti-terrorism has it's own set of laws, standards and policing so we don't just want to start applying these to every crime

If there are two silver linings to this horror then it's that no one has died and that this wasn't terrorism (or so it seems for now) because that would have even more awful implications

[Zizu]

…the article this morning that I read said the most severe of the injured was one duly and one child particularly so I don’t know if they were together…parent and child, type thing…


Local reporter on TalkSport now saying the vehicle eventually came to a halt there were four people trapped UNDERNEATH it ( including one child) !!


It sounds horrific !!


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[arista]

Personally think we should be careful about broadening the definition of terrorism. If we just call every serious crime an act of terror then we might fail to address the roots of actual terrorism properly - that which is driven by dangerous ideologies. Plus anti-terrorism has it's own set of laws, standards and policing so we don't just want to start applying these to every crime

If there are two silver linings to this horror then it's that no one has died and that this wasn't terrorism (or so it seems for now) because that would have even more awful implications



By now,
they should say
he came out of a Pub/Bar,
then into his car.



Its in the Times Newspaper

[Niamh.]

You never know though.It was actually the Police who said the man is 53 though so I doubt it, there's no chance that man is 53. At the very most he looks early 30s

[arista]

He doesn't look 53


The Right side photo of a younger fella
is Not the Driver

[Ammi]

It was actually the Police who said the man is 53 though so I doubt it, there's no chance that man is 53. At the very most he looks early 30s

…it’s just another layer of ‘horror’ that such serious falsehoods can be posted on social media, which again…only incites…

[Beso]

Was he fleeing an angry mob after clipping someone with his car. He did sound his horn as he drove..

[joeysteele]

Horrific, absolutely horrific.
It's hard to imagine the fear that those witnessing this, and who were injured because of it felt too.
Thankfully so far, no loss of life however what number now have massively life changing injuries.

[Nicky91]

Horrific, absolutely horrific.
It's hard to imagine the fear that those witnessing this, and who were injured because of it felt too.
Thankfully so far, no loss of life however what number now have massively life changing injuries.

instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings

[Niamh.]

…it’s just another layer of ‘horror’ that such serious falsehoods can be posted on social media, which again…only incites…

Yeah very dangerous to be sharing images like that when we don't have the proper information

Was he fleeing an angry mob after clipping someone with his car. He did sound his horn as he drove..

I read that alright, people saying he got stuck and hit someone and the mob started smashing his windows and that's when he started hitting more people ( obviously he shouldn't have been driving in there though)

[Beso]

Yeah very dangerous to be sharing images like that when we don't have the proper information



I read that alright, people saying he got stuck and hit someone and the mob started smashing his windows and that's when he started hitting more people ( obviously he shouldn't have been driving in there though)




He must have beeen terrified. 1st thing a thought about when I saw the footage was the 2 soldiers being dragged from their car when they took a wrong turning at an IRA funeral.

[Redway]

If you are in the passenger seat while a stoned person is driving then you are just as much an idiot as the driver

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs is illegal

And for your information it’s the same mindset that it’s fine to do so sees drunk people get into cars and drive

That’s fine.

[arista]

Owen Jones speaking live on Ch5HD AM show
said he watched the online-only video
Then wish he had not.

He also stated Online
before the Police spoke,
People were saying it's a Muslim.

So he understands why the Police said
The driver was White.

[Beso]

Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS

[Cherie]

Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS

That looks horrifically scary, and the shouts of kill him ...awful

Looking at that it looks like this was a horrible accident caused by panic on both sides

[Livia]

instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings

The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, and he still faces

[Niamh.]

Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS

I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it

[Livia]

instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings

The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, he had a £10,000 bounty on his head and he still faces a tribunal despite being found not guilty. I wouldn't want more police in that position.

[Ammi]

I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it

…this is also why the police publish cautions about stuff said and shown on social media platforms etc…correct/factual information will take time for the officials to put together and get that more accurate picture and in the meantime there is so much speculation which is also very dangerous…I mean, even in mainstream media they’re using descriptives such as ‘ploughed into…’…and that’s quite an citing word…it’s feeling more and more in danger of becoming a ‘lawless society’….

[Ammi]

…anyway, as Niamh said…if it proves to be the case that alcohol was involved in impairing judgement and that person should never have got behind the wheel of their car then there is a huge responsibility and accountability on them for the events that unfolded in terms of others being harmed…

[Beso]

I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it

Contributed to it then..let's settle for that.

[Niamh.]

Contributed to it then..let's settle for that.

As Ammi said, it's all speculation at this point anyway

[MTVN]

Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS

There should have been emergency services who were able to intervene before it got to that point, he's right by an ambulance

[Beso]

As Ammi said, it's all speculation at this point anyway

But is it? What with all the varying videos circulating.

[Niamh.]

But is it? What with all the varying videos circulating.

It's speculation as to whether he was drinking etc

[Beso]

There should have been emergency services who were able to intervene before it got to that point, he's right by an ambulance

There's is also police standing by watching people rip his door open and climb into the vehicle when it eventually stopped..

[Niamh.]

There's is also police standing by watching people rip his door open and climb into the vehicle when it eventually stopped..

A road that was closed to traffic.....

[Beso]

It's speculation as to whether he was drinking etc

But no speculation needed to see the crowd attacking his vehicle caused him to drive off in a panic.

[Niamh.]

But no speculation needed to see the crowd attacking his vehicle caused him to drive off in a panic.

a road he should not have been on as it was closed to normal traffic

[Beso]

a road he should not have been on as it was closed to normal traffic

Or opening up to traffic as the parade had passed by...perhaps not quick enough for him, so he m8ved a barrier, perhaps a falling down moment:shrug:

[Niamh.]

Or opening up to traffic as the parade had passed by...perhaps not quick enough for him, so he m8ved a barrier, perhaps a falling down moment:shrug:

Which, if the case, would make him very much in the wrong and at fault

[user104658]

There are multiple areas of blame here but yes the fact that the angry mob of footie yobs started bashing the car to try to get to the driver 100% caused a panic and further chaos. Let's call a spade a spade. The angry men kicked off and made things worse; that's the world.

[Livia]

Footie yobs? Jesus Christ, it was families... But yeah, call them all yobs.

[Beso]

Which, if the case, would make him very much in the wrong and at fault

But the crowd attacked his car for for entering the road...That's when he had to speed off in a panic, and that's when the injuries took place.

[user104658]

Footie yobs? Jesus Christ, it was families... But yeah, call them all yobs.

It wasn't families trying to bash the car windows in Livia -- it was footie yobs in footie scarves with their hoods up. There are plenty of videos. And yes it was families who then suffered the consequences of the actions of those idiots (and the idiot in the car).

Awful when innocent families get caught up in other people's violence, isn't it?

[Cherie]

We will have to wait, we can speculate all we like, how did he get his car onto the closed off road, did he move the barrier, did someone else, was he under the influence, how much did the angry crowd contribute to his erratic driving and how much was due to him being under the influence, its all ifs and buts at the moment, the only think I can say I think with particular certainty is that he did not drive over people deliberately which is something I suppose and I hope all those in hospital have a full recovery.

[Benjamin]

But the crowd attacked his car for for entering the road...That's when he had to speed off in a panic, and that's when the injuries took place.

That’s what I believe happened too. Yes, he shouldn’t have been there (which needs to be looked into how he got there in the first place) but as soon as his car got attacked he panicked and reversed.

And yes there were families there with children for a family day out, but there also would have been plenty of very drunk footie fans too (and we’ve seen what some can be like when hammered, especially in groups and caught in the moment).

[Beso]

Hoods up in the rain, and scarves with the colour of your team on, equals football hooligans..

Ridiculous. If that's what you are claiming then wouldn't you say the parents taking their kids along to this event are stupid morons, rather than good parents making memories! Considering they were surrounded by people in that attire.


Reach of the month award goes to quantum boy.

[Cherie]

I think as well given how long the City had to organise this celebration it was pretty poorly planned, people had to wait 5 HOURS for a train out of the City and kids were being hung over barriers because of fear of being crushed, why on earth were there not extra trains and buses put on to get the crowd away.... madness

[arista]

Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS




No he was Drunk

[Beso]

No he was Drunk

Drunk or sober, it's still a natural reaction to fight or flight.

[Niamh.]

Drunk or sober, it's still a natural reaction to fight or flight.

He may not have made the decisions he did if he wasn't drunk though and he may not have panicked so quickly, he really ploughed through people when he drove forwards

[user104658]

He may not have made the decisions he did if he was drunk though and he may not have panicked so quickly, he really ploughed through people when he drove forwards

Yeah being aware of driving through people and still continuing, while I think still being somewhat explained by "fight or flight", feels more like a blind rage than a panicked "fleeing". Feels more like "red mist" / anger than panic. Of course both can be a fear response.

[Cherie]

No he was Drunk

That has not been confirmed just because he watched the parade in a Pub he could have been drinking a soft drink you have no idea yet, would be a strange thing to do to get into a car drunk when the streets were full of police, maybe he did but its not been verified

[arista]

That has not been confirmed just because he watched the parade in a Pub he could have been drinking a soft drink you have no idea yet, would be a strange thing to do to get into a car drunk when the streets were full of police, maybe he did but its not been verified


Sure today
Police can tell us he was a Drunk Driver


They would have tested him.

[Cherie]

Yeah being aware of driving through people and still continuing, while I think still being somewhat explained by "fight or flight", feels more like a blind rage than a panicked "fleeing". Feels more like "red mist" / anger than panic. Of course both can be a fear response.

Again you have no idea what his state of mind was, if the car is automatic he could have put his foot on the wrong pedal, people have done that before, he just sat in the car when it stopped so he was obviously shocked

I know the guy in this story was alot older but in the panic he might have

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/06/driver-90-killed-couple-knocking-pressed-accelerator-instead/?msockid=26aeb14bcc4b61053e01a075cdab6040

[Cherie]

I just hope this isn't going to turn into a Hillsborough situation with fans being blamed and police failures

[user104658]

Again you have no idea what his state of mind was, if the car is automatic he could have put his foot on the wrong pedal, people have done that before, he just sat in the car when it stopped so he was obviously shocked

I know the guy in this story was alot older but in the panic he might have

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/06/driver-90-killed-couple-knocking-pressed-accelerator-instead/?msockid=26aeb14bcc4b61053e01a075cdab6040

I get that but unfortunately any way you look at it the driver is responsible for being in full control of the vehicle, I feel like driving is so "normalised" in the modern world that people do forget that any person behind the wheel of a car is in charge of a potentially lethal piece of heavy machinery. This is sort of covered in driving lessons/highway code but not meaningfully. The responsibility of driving is actually huge and incidents like this highlight why.

[Livia]

I just hope this isn't going to turn into a Hillsborough situation with fans being blamed and police failures

They've already been labelled football yobs in this very thread.

[Gusto Brunt]

Just insane. :(

[user104658]

They've already been labelled football yobs in this very thread.

The people punching/kicking windows have, yes. Carry on misrepresenting though Livia I know it's one of the only tools you have in your kit.

[Beso]

He may not have made the decisions he did if he wasn't drunk though and he may not have panicked so quickly, he really ploughed through people when he drove forwards



Would the car have been attacked had drink not been consumed by the baying crowd? He was sober enough to sound his horn repetitively..And only seemed to move as the windows came in.

[Niamh.]

Would the car have been attacked had drink not been consumed by the baying crowd? He was sober enough to sound his horn repetitively..And only seemed to move as the windows came in.

Why does him beeping his horn prove he was sober? :laugh: Beeping his horn repeatedly while driving in the middle of a crowd where he shouldn't have been driving is not a great idea at all

[Beso]

Why does him beeping his horn prove he was sober? :laugh: Beeping his horn repeatedly while driving in the middle of a crowd where he shouldn't have been driving is not a great idea at all

"Sober enough", as in not paralytic drunk.

[Niamh.]

"Sober enough", as in not paralytic drunk.

It doesn't prove that either (I'm not saying he was paralytic drunk, I'm just saying whether he beeped his horn or not is no proof either way)

[Beso]

It doesn't prove that either (I'm not saying he was paralytic drunk, I'm just saying whether he beeped his horn or not is no proof either way)

You wern't saying anything, you asked a question after misreading my post, believing I said he was sober, when I actually said he was sober enough to...


Anyway,I will probably change my mind if he has an eastern European sounding name.

[Niamh.]

You wern't saying anything, you asked a question after misreading my post, believing I said he was sober, when I actually said he was sober enough to...


Anyway,I will probably change my mind if he has an eastern European sounding name.

I still don't get why you think you made any sort of valid point at all, and why the fact he beeped his horn says anything at all about how much drink he might(or might not) have had :shrug:

[Beso]

I still don't get why you think you made any sort of valid point at all, and why the fact he beeped his horn says anything at all about how much drink he might(or might not) have had :shrug:

I don't think anything...I was reacting to arista and his statement that he was drunk...I'm stating he was obviously sober enough to think to sound his horn

Its more likely that he was closer to being sober than drunk..is what I take to the sounding of the horn..


Who gives a **** about valid points...I don't it's mere speculation.

At least I'm offering something though.:wavey:

[Zizu]

Wow

50 injuries

4 extremely serious


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[Beso]

Also there are videos of other cars driving through the crowds being kicked and punched. Also the p9lice statement said the road "had been" cordoned off for the parade..very cleverly worded as it can mean it was both open, or still closed......depending on how much face they want to save for their **** show.

[arista]

Shortly, Liverpool Police will give another Update



It could be while King Charles is speaking Live
In the Canadian Parliament?

[arista]

The Same Lady Copper


Now Live All TV news


The Street he was on was closed
Police think he followed an Ambulance
to sneak in etc.

[arista]

Now a Detective Lady


The Driver was a Junkie

[arista]

Both Women Left Fast



The Poxy Junkie Driver was not permitted to Drive

[arista]

Police have extended time
They can now speak to Evil Junkie Driver


One Charge is Attempted Murder



SkyNewsHD Live

[Ammi]

…so it’s confirmed that he’s been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder…?…

The 53-year-old, from West Derby, in Liverpool, has also been arrested on suspicion of driving while unfit through drugs and causing serious injury through dangerous driving


They add that the suspected driver was able to follow an ambulance after a road block was temporarily lifted to treat a member of the public

[Beso]

The Same Lady Copper


Now Live All TV news


The Street he was on was closed
Police think he followed an Ambulance
to sneak in etc.



So the barrier was lifted to alllow the ambulance access?


Who moved the barrier and allowed the car to pass along with the ambulance...cause that would have been a coppper.

[Ammi]

Merseyside Police have just ended their news conference after a car was driven into a crowd at the Liverpool FC parade in the city's centre on Monday evening. Here's a summary of what we heard:
A 53-year-old male suspect has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, dangerous driving offences, and driving while unfit through drugs, police say
The suspected driver of the car is believed to have followed an ambulance onto Water Street, which had previously been blocked. Access had been temporarily lifted to the emergency vehicle so first responders could attend to a person suffering from a suspected heart attack
Fifty people were hospitalised and 11 of these patients remain in hospital - all are in a stable condition and "appear to be recovering well", authorities add
Police say they will continue to support the victims of the attack, while an extensive CCTV search is ongoing to understand the driver of the car's movements

The police repeated that the incident is not being treated as terrorism, and urged the public not to share distressing content online or speculate about the motivations behind the incident


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn5xnlkegz0t

[arista]

So the barrier was lifted to alllow the ambulance access?


Who moved the barrier and allowed the car to pass along with the ambulance...cause that would have been a coppper.


Yes, someone was having a Heart Attack.


The Evil Junkie Driver was behind it.

[Beso]

Yes, someone was having a Heart Attack.


The Evil Junkie Driver was behind it.

So who moved the barrrier, and in turn failed to prevent him getting in?


I think the police are very lucky this wasn't a crazed terrorist, cause someones ****ed up. Maybe just an underpaid security guard, but definitely needs looked at to improve any future event.

[arista]

[So who moved the barrrier, and in turn failed to prevent him getting in?]


The Lady Detective failed to give the Info..............

Also,
If he was real close to the Ambulance
it could be hard to stop the Junkie Driver.

[Redway]

Terrorism
I say.

Because he’s white, it won’t be reported like that.

[user104658]

I mean, it is specifically only terrorism if it was politically/ideologically motivated, from what we know if this so far it GENUINELY is literally not terrorism, but you never know.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/27/17/98795361-0-image-m-16_1748362337183.jpg

[Beso]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/27/17/98795361-0-image-m-16_1748362337183.jpg

No deaths, everyone doing fine.......LETS RAMP UP THE NUMBERS THEN.

God, I hate the press.

[Zizu]

Presumably there are loads of cases with mild bruising or twisted ankles/wrists and even shock ??


Presumably all casualties will be able to claim off the perpetrator’s insurance policy

When they realise that there maybe hundreds


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[Cherie]

So who moved the barrrier, and in turn failed to prevent him getting in?


I think the police are very lucky this wasn't a crazed terrorist, cause someones ****ed up. Maybe just an underpaid security guard, but definitely needs looked at to improve any future event.

Yes there should have been been police at any barriers especially those for access for emergencies, why was he not stopped

[Cherie]

Because he’s white, it won’t be reported like that.


Don't be ridiculous, the Southport killer who stabbed little girls to death was not designated a terrorist either, how do you explain that one away, and as for your earlier assertion that drug driving is safer than drunk driver, I think we have our answer to that one, both equally evil

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/27/18/98797447-14753823-image-a-9_1748366515184.jpg

The Labour Home Secretary
Thanking the Emergency Workers.

[Redway]

Don't be ridiculous, the Southport killer who stabbed little girls to death was not designated a terrorist either, how do you explain that one away, and as for your earlier assertion that drug driving is safer than drunk driver, I think we have our answer to that one, both equally evil

Oh, give it a rest, you. The bottom line is that terrorism’s a label that’s almost exclusively applied to non-whites. Not talking about Southport. I’m just talking about the general trend.

Moreover, I didn’t say drugs as a whole. I said cannabis relative to another drug (alcohol). I didn’t endorse either or say that either’s good at all. Just that drunk driving is worse. You can argue with that until you’re blue in the face but the statistics on this aren’t lying. But that’s besides the point.

[Beso]

Oh, give it a rest, you. The bottom line is that terrorism’s a label that’s almost exclusively applied to non-whites. Not talking about Southport. I’m just talking about the general trend.

Moreover, I didn’t say drugs as a whole. I said cannabis relative to another drug (alcohol). I didn’t endorse either or say that either’s good at all. Just that drunk driving is worse. You can argue with that until you’re blue in the face but the statistics on this aren’t lying. But that’s besides the point.




I would say someone who has never touched either would be more at risk of an accident having smoked one joint, compared to having drunk one drink.

[Redway]

I would say someone who has never touched either would be more at risk of an accident having smoked one joint, compared to having drunk one drink.

The statistics don’t agree with you. Stoned driving (which is also a bad idea) increases your risk of having a crash by 1.5-2-fold. Drunk-driving, 13 times more. But that’s neither here nor there. That’s not what this thread is about.

Either way, none is safe. I’m not saying otherwise. Just that one’s more likely to lead to road-rage than the other.

[Beso]

I think as well given how long the City had to organise this celebration it was pretty poorly planned, people had to wait 5 HOURS for a train out of the City and kids were being hung over barriers because of fear of being crushed, why on earth were there not extra trains and buses put on to get the crowd away.... madness

Fyi, and mine.

Someone jumped onto the tracks at lime street, which caused the delays.

[Beso]

It's about time his name was released.

I know he hasn't been charged yet, and people are entitled to some form of privacy, but surely they have swab tested him, and with their comments about suspicion of drug driving, one must assume it's came back positive. So why not charge him with that to begin with so they can then legally give out his name?

[AnnieK]

It's about time his name was released.

I know he hasn't been charged yet, and people are entitled to some form of privacy, but surely they have swab tested him, and with their comments about suspicion of drug driving, one must assume it's came back positive. So why not charge him with that to begin with so they can then legally give out his name?

They can't charge him from a swab test. It has to be a blood test.

[Beso]

They can't charge him from a swab test. It has to be a blood test.

I will assume they've done that by now, and ask the same question.

[AnnieK]

I will assume they've done that by now, and ask the same question.

It can take weeks to get the blood test results back.

In drug driving cases, police usually have six months to prosecute. However, much of this time is often spent waiting for your blood test results, which can take eight weeks or more.

[Beso]

It can take weeks to get the blood test results back.

In drug driving cases, police usually have six months to prosecute. However, much of this time is often spent waiting for your blood test results, which can take eight weeks or more.

Maybe I'm jump8ng the gun here, but I reckon his test would be at the front of the queue.

[Cherie]

Fyi, and mine.

Someone jumped onto the tracks at lime street, which caused the delays.

apparently it was the same on the Metro :shrug: whatever that is

[Mystic Mock]

There are multiple areas of blame here but yes the fact that the angry mob of footie yobs started bashing the car to try to get to the driver 100% caused a panic and further chaos. Let's call a spade a spade. The angry men kicked off and made things worse; that's the world.

You're blaming the fans for a driver being on a road that he legally shouldn't have been on at that moment?:umm2:

Because I would be angry if a Car was inches away from me as well, when it's supposed to be a parade.

[Mystic Mock]

But the crowd attacked his car for for entering the road...That's when he had to speed off in a panic, and that's when the injuries took place.

But he shouldn't have been on the road.

So are we all going to agree to stop victim blaming now?:umm2:

[user104658]

But he shouldn't have been on the road.

So are we all going to agree to stop victim blaming now?:umm2:

The yobs punching the windows and kicking the doors aren't the victims though. That was other innocent bystanders who got caught up in the chaos. There are multiple layers of blame, obviously the driver takes the biggest share of that, and poor safety organisation is another element, but no... attacking/punching/kicking a vehicle "because you're a bit angry" is not an acceptable or appropriate response and very probably was part of the escalating situation.

[Mystic Mock]

The yobs punching the windows and kicking the doors aren't the victims though. That was other innocent bystanders who got caught up in the chaos. There are multiple layers of blame, obviously the driver takes the biggest share of that, and poor safety organisation is another element, but no... attacking/punching/kicking a vehicle "because you're a bit angry" is not an acceptable or appropriate response and very probably was part of the escalating situation.

Panic will set in if a Car is driving into the proximity of a huge crowd.

In my view he shouldn't have been there, he should've known that it was never going to end well as it's Human nature to respond negatively to a perceived threat.

Logically speaking I agree with you that it wasn't in the fans best interest to respond the way that they did, because it caused him to go even more crazy.

But most people won't think logically when a car is trying to drive through a huge crowd to begin with.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/a1e9/live/1380ec40-3b3f-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/0b33/live/12c29df0-3b42-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/399c/live/c858c4f0-3b3d-11f0-b0d7-71720076f013.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/e66f/live/ba1d85f0-3b43-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/ebac/live/c4f14510-3b3f-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/28e4/live/ac1258a0-3b3e-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp

[Zizu]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/ebac/live/c4f14510-3b3f-11f0-91a0-abc9c23352d4.jpg.webp


He looks like that idiot Charlie boy


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[arista]

He looks like that idiot Charlie boy





No the Junkie
is much younger

[arista]

High on Cocaine
Junkie enjoying running people down,


The can now charge him
Attempted Murder


Lock Him Up

[Ammi]

…a personal account of the incident and the helpless terror that was felt ….


A Liverpool fan run down during the club’s victory parade has recalled how he “locked eyes” with the driver and “pleaded for him to stop” moments before being hit.

Jack Trotter, 22, had travelled from Northern Ireland with his girlfriend, Abbie Gallagher, 22, to celebrate on Water Street when he was struck by a Ford Galaxy

“Abbie was a few feet ahead of me, and I was just taking videos singing with Liverpool fans I’d never even met before,” Mr Trotter said. “Then I just heard her screaming my name, I put my phone down and by then I was face to face with the car.


“He had slowed down. And then I put my hands up and pleaded for him to stop, and he wasn’t stopping. Then he clipped me.”

[Ammi]

….and another personal perspective of a family there in regards to some of the crowd/supporters banging in the car…is what the vids aren't showing so much in that many were pushing people in the crowd out of the way from being harmed also…

'Heroic' young Liverpool supporters pushed family out of way of car

The Independent’s Alex Ross reports from the scene in Liverpool:

A family of four visiting from Ireland say they are thankful for “heroic” Liverpool fans who pushed them out of the way of the income vehicle.

Paul O'Brien was with his 11-year-old son Danny, and parents Marie and Peter, when they heard a commotion further down Water Road.

They saw people jumping on the top of a car as it passed a stationary ambulance on the street, heading toward them.

"They [the people jumping on the car] got the car stopped and then it got away again and we were pushed to the side as it came past us," said Paul, aged 39.

"It passed us by inches, and then it continued and we could actually hear the thuds of people being hit. It was just a terrible scene. There wee kids, men and women on the ground."

"The men who pushed us out of the way were amazing, it was heroic stuff, young Liverpool supporters. They didn't think for a second, only for those people they don't know."

After the incident, the family went inside an Airbnb on Water Street, where they stayed for the evening.

"We intended to go out for a few drinks, but we were so upset we came back and just stayed in for the night. Danny was shaking. It is hard for the fella to see it going on, it was very hard to understand."

[arista]

Good

Soon we get the Evil Junkie Car Driver Charged,

In the next hour or so.

[Cherie]

So was his intention to drive at people deliberately or he ended up doing so because of the situation he found himself in? What the hell were the stewards doing when they let him tailgate the ambulance

[arista]

So was his intention to drive at people deliberately or he ended up doing so because of the situation he found himself in? What the hell were the stewards doing when they let him tailgate the ambulance

Was it a Steward or a Copper?
Or Both


High on Cocaine
the Evil Junkie Driver
does not care who he runs over

[Cherie]

Was it a Steward or a Copper?
Or Both


High on Cocaine
the Evil Junkie Driver
does not care who he runs over

They mentioned stewards ...

[user104658]

They mentioned stewards ...

The people stewarding at these sort of things often have next to no experience, handed a high-vis jacket and plonked on the street, they have no idea what to do in this sort of situation and are honestly mostly "walking traffic cones" - they're there for panopticon effect / visibility more than anything else, there's no one there who can exercise any real authority.

[Cherie]

The people stewarding at these sort of things often have next to no experience, handed a high-vis jacket and plonked on the street, they have no idea what to do in this sort of situation and are honestly mostly "walking traffic cones" - they're there for panopticon effect / visibility more than anything else, there's no one there who can exercise any real authority.

Right but surely the could have dialled 999 or something, they cant have just let an SUV drive through and think...oh well :shrug:

[arista]

Just a Steward

He has little authority

[Beso]

It's lunchtime....we want a name

[arista]

It's lunchtime....we want a name


He is soon to be Charged




Update :
Some kind of Delay now?

[Zizu]

Apparently they have a couple of hours to get a water tight case and charge him or they have to set him free without charges !!

What utter nonsense our system is .. it’s not as though he’s in custody due to heresy or rumours ..

[arista]

SkyNewsHD now states he will be charged Tomorrow
Thursday, 29th of May 2025

[Cherie]

The last I heard it it is now 'suspicion' of intent to murder

[arista]

Seven are still in the hospital.


Around 79 were injured.

SkyNewsHD Live

[Zizu]

Seven are still in the hospital.


Around 79 were injured.

SkyNewsHD Live


Wonder what the insurance company are thinking !!!

Panic mode maybe ?


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[Cherie]

Wonder what the insurance company are thinking !!!

Panic mode maybe ?


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He might not be insured, lots of driver aren't

[Ammi]

…I hadn’t realised that someone had been wrongly identified on social media as the driver and now fears for his family’s safety…


A man wrongly identified on social media as being the driver of a car which ploughed into crowds of people in Liverpool says he has moved his children out of their home because he fears for their safety.
Peter Cunningham, 54, had his picture circulated online after the incident on Monday, when 79 people were injured while celebrating Liverpool's Premier League victory.
Police have been granted more time to question the suspected driver of the Ford Galaxy that hit pedestrians at the parade - a 53-year-old man from West Derby in Liverpool who has not been named.
Water Street, where the incident happened, reopened on Wednesday morning. Seven people remain in a stable condition in hospital.

Peter Cunningham, from Huyton in Liverpool, told the BBC on Wednesday that he had been with his children along the parade route about four miles (6.4km) away from Water Street at the time of the incident, which he didn't find out about until he got home.
He said of the false accusations: "It's not me. I'm in work - the police need to give the [suspect's] name out because I'm getting accused.
"Family members and friends are ringing and asking me, but it could get a whole lot worse. The police need to do something.
"I was down Queens Drive with my children. I'm in a completely different car anyway, I've got a Hyundai.
"I wouldn't go into town because I knew it was too chocka to go up there with the girls."
When asked if he was fearful of an attack due to the viral post about him, Mr Cunningham said: "It can still put me at great harm, I've had to move my children to a different house today because we're that nervous."

Research by BBC Verify found the name Peter Cunningham was mentioned by a user on X on Monday evening, in response to a post enquiring about the identity of the suspect.
On Tuesday night, an Instagram post with an image of Mr Cunningham was shared by a user claiming to be based in Liverpool, along with the false claim that it was the first photo of the suspect.
This same image appears on Mr Cunningham's own Facebook profile. The Instagram post featuring Mr Cunningham's picture - which has also been shared on Facebook - has now been deleted.
The BBC's disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring said false accusations about the identities of suspects can flood social media following high-profile attacks or incidents.
"The problem is exacerbated by the limitations police forces face when it comes to releasing more information about a suspect when they're yet to be charged," she said.
"Ultimately, there are few repercussions for those sharing these defamatory posts online. The impact is principally felt by the person whose reputation is dragged through the virtual mud, as worried family and friends watch on.
"And it's yet another example where some of the social media sites take little to no action over what's posted on their platforms - principally because they don't know the facts either, but also because they have relaxed their policies to deal with disinformation and abuse."

Merseyside Police said in an update on Wednesday that it had been granted more time to question the suspect following a previous extension, which will remain in place until Thursday.
Police do not ordinarily name a suspect before they are charged, and Merseyside Police have urged people not to speculate on the identity of the man in custody.
The arrest was made shortly after 18:00 BST on Monday, and police usually have 24 hours to question a suspect in custody before they have to either charge them or let them go.
People suspected of terrorism offences can be held for up to a fortnight without a charge, but police have ruled out terrorism in this case.
Det Supt Rachel Wilson said the force was making "significant progress" to establish the "full circumstances that led to what happened", with CCTV being used to track the movements of the car before it hit the crowds.
"I'm pleased to say that the number of people in hospital is reducing as they continue to recover from the awful incident," she said.
"We continue to support those still receiving treatment and, as part of our ongoing enquiries, we are identifying more people who were injured."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdedg865725o

[Zizu]

He might not be insured, lots of driver aren't


Then there’s a central government fund to claim off ( I think ) ..


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[Zizu]

You're driving along, you get hit by another driver, and you stop to exchange details – then it turns out they don't have car insurance. What next?

"You still have a civil claim against them, but as they have no insurance cover, there still needs to be a mechanism for compensation if they can't meet their financial obligations. So in the UK, we have the Motor Insurers' Bureau," explains Martin Smith, Motor Technical Claims Manager. "The MIB acts as a guarantee fund of last resort – if there is injury or damage and there is no insurer to pay, the MIB will meet the claim, and they will go after the perpetrator."

You can use your own insurer, or you can go straight to the MIB, and they'll act on behalf of the uninsured motorist. Usually, you won't feel an impact on your no claims discount (NCD) if you're in an accident with someone who isn't covered.


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[joeysteele]

…I hadn’t realised that someone had been wrongly identified on social media as the driver and now fears for his family’s safety…


A man wrongly identified on social media as being the driver of a car which ploughed into crowds of people in Liverpool says he has moved his children out of their home because he fears for their safety.
Peter Cunningham, 54, had his picture circulated online after the incident on Monday, when 79 people were injured while celebrating Liverpool's Premier League victory.
Police have been granted more time to question the suspected driver of the Ford Galaxy that hit pedestrians at the parade - a 53-year-old man from West Derby in Liverpool who has not been named.
Water Street, where the incident happened, reopened on Wednesday morning. Seven people remain in a stable condition in hospital.

Peter Cunningham, from Huyton in Liverpool, told the BBC on Wednesday that he had been with his children along the parade route about four miles (6.4km) away from Water Street at the time of the incident, which he didn't find out about until he got home.
He said of the false accusations: "It's not me. I'm in work - the police need to give the [suspect's] name out because I'm getting accused.
"Family members and friends are ringing and asking me, but it could get a whole lot worse. The police need to do something.
"I was down Queens Drive with my children. I'm in a completely different car anyway, I've got a Hyundai.
"I wouldn't go into town because I knew it was too chocka to go up there with the girls."
When asked if he was fearful of an attack due to the viral post about him, Mr Cunningham said: "It can still put me at great harm, I've had to move my children to a different house today because we're that nervous."

Research by BBC Verify found the name Peter Cunningham was mentioned by a user on X on Monday evening, in response to a post enquiring about the identity of the suspect.
On Tuesday night, an Instagram post with an image of Mr Cunningham was shared by a user claiming to be based in Liverpool, along with the false claim that it was the first photo of the suspect.
This same image appears on Mr Cunningham's own Facebook profile. The Instagram post featuring Mr Cunningham's picture - which has also been shared on Facebook - has now been deleted.
The BBC's disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring said false accusations about the identities of suspects can flood social media following high-profile attacks or incidents.
"The problem is exacerbated by the limitations police forces face when it comes to releasing more information about a suspect when they're yet to be charged," she said.
"Ultimately, there are few repercussions for those sharing these defamatory posts online. The impact is principally felt by the person whose reputation is dragged through the virtual mud, as worried family and friends watch on.
"And it's yet another example where some of the social media sites take little to no action over what's posted on their platforms - principally because they don't know the facts either, but also because they have relaxed their policies to deal with disinformation and abuse."

Merseyside Police said in an update on Wednesday that it had been granted more time to question the suspect following a previous extension, which will remain in place until Thursday.
Police do not ordinarily name a suspect before they are charged, and Merseyside Police have urged people not to speculate on the identity of the man in custody.
The arrest was made shortly after 18:00 BST on Monday, and police usually have 24 hours to question a suspect in custody before they have to either charge them or let them go.
People suspected of terrorism offences can be held for up to a fortnight without a charge, but police have ruled out terrorism in this case.
Det Supt Rachel Wilson said the force was making "significant progress" to establish the "full circumstances that led to what happened", with CCTV being used to track the movements of the car before it hit the crowds.
"I'm pleased to say that the number of people in hospital is reducing as they continue to recover from the awful incident," she said.
"We continue to support those still receiving treatment and, as part of our ongoing enquiries, we are identifying more people who were injured."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdedg865725o

THIS is one of the really worrying and big problems with social media.
Due to the number of absolute irrational nutcases who make up part of those on social media.

[Cherie]

You're driving along, you get hit by another driver, and you stop to exchange details – then it turns out they don't have car insurance. What next?

"You still have a civil claim against them, but as they have no insurance cover, there still needs to be a mechanism for compensation if they can't meet their financial obligations. So in the UK, we have the Motor Insurers' Bureau," explains Martin Smith, Motor Technical Claims Manager. "The MIB acts as a guarantee fund of last resort – if there is injury or damage and there is no insurer to pay, the MIB will meet the claim, and they will go after the perpetrator."

You can use your own insurer, or you can go straight to the MIB, and they'll act on behalf of the uninsured motorist. Usually, you won't feel an impact on your no claims discount (NCD) if you're in an accident with someone who isn't covered.


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Unfortunately that takes years I was hit by an uninsured driver some years back

[arista]

[He said of the false accusations: "It's not me.
I'm in work - the police need to give the [suspect's] name out
because I'm getting accused.
"Family members and friends are ringing and asking me,
but it could get a whole lot worse. The police need to do something.
"I was down Queens Drive with my children.
I'm in a completely different car anyway, I've got a Hyundai.
"I wouldn't go into town because I knew it was too chocka to go up
there with the girls."
When asked if he was fearful of an attack due to the
viral post about him, Mr Cunningham said:
"It can still put me at great harm, I've had to move
my children to a different house today
because we're that nervous."]



Yes Ammi
That is so wrong.
At least the police will name the
Evil Junkie Driver Today

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fc5bb966-f0af-4632-a8fc-b56809a50cf3.jpeg

[Mystic Mock]

Well he clearly isn't so nice if he ramming his Car into children.

[arista]

Well he clearly isn't so nice if he ramming his Car into children.

Yes Cocaine
changed him.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes Cocaine
changed him.

It's not an excuse that he can hide behind in my view.

[arista]

It's not an excuse that he can hide behind in my view.


Well today we get
the Company Director Junkie's name

[Mystic Mock]

Well today we get
the Company Director Junkie's name

Okay.

Thanks for the information.:)

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/2b21/live/ead09390-3c0b-11f0-af00-f94ff1cabcc0.jpg.webp

[Ammi]

THIS is one of the really worrying and big problems with social media.
Due to the number of absolute irrational nutcases who make up part of those on social media.

…there is also the danger that because of the pressure on police to release names/details so quickly etc to appease the social media public…that it could cause legal procedures not to be followed/errors to be made and a serious offence not ending in the prosecution that it should…?…social media really is feeling like a lawless world of pitchfork mentality…

[arista]

GMBHD itv
ignores the Daily Mail Front Page
as they can not talk about it
until he is named/charged.

[Ammi]

Andrew Lawrence: Comedian barred from venues after making 'vile' joke about Liverpool parade collision…

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-lawrence-comedian-barred-from-venues-after-making-vile-joke-about-liverpool-parade-collision-13376210

[arista]

Andrew Lawrence: Comedian barred from venues after making 'vile' joke about Liverpool parade collision…

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-lawrence-comedian-barred-from-venues-after-making-vile-joke-about-liverpool-parade-collision-13376210


He made the wrong choice.


I have seen him on TV
He seemed an average type of comedian.

[arista]

[Lawrence had been due to perform at a comedy club
in Essex on 15 June, but the gig has now been cancelled.

In a statement, the Caddies venue said:
"We do not condone or support the comment
that has been made online,
and we send everyone impacted by
the tragic events in Liverpool our support and prayers."]

From the SkyNews Link

[Ammi]

…lots of questions to be answered now…how the car travelled a long distance through two streets until fatalities could have occurred/children now have serious, possibly life changing injuries and mental traumas suffered by many people …with no police/official intervention to prevent it all…these events are closed off and strictly policed for a reason but this obviously wasn’t in Liverpool…

[Cherie]

I heard a man interviewed yesterday saying the car was driving very slowly and only sped up when people started to bang on the windows...this sounds like a complete police failure tbh

[Zizu]

I heard a man interviewed yesterday saying the car was driving very slowly and only sped up when people started to bang on the windows...this sounds like a complete police failure tbh


There’s footage of a young guy bashing on the windows then an older guy pulling the rear wiper off and trying to break the back window


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[joeysteele]

…there is also the danger that because of the pressure on police to release names/details so quickly etc to appease the social media public…that it could cause legal procedures not to be followed/errors to be made and a serious offence not ending in the prosecution that it should…?…social media really is feeling like a lawless world of pitchfork mentality…

You are right in all you say there Ammi.
Every word.

[Cherie]

The suspected driver in the Liverpool victory parade horror crash has been described by neighbours as a 'nice family' man - despite the injured now totalling almost 80.

Horrified locals in the quiet cul-de-sac where the alleged driver lives with his three young sons and wife have said: "It just doesn't make sense."
Detectives were given extended powers to keep quizzing the 53-year-old man from near Liverpool who has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and drug-driving.

Man wrongly accused of driving car into Liverpool crowd left 'stressed out'
Liverpool parade crash suspect update as police issue statement
The local force have said the total number injured had risen to 79, with seven still recovering in hospital yesterday, reports the Mirror.

Celebrations for Liverpool FC's title winning parade descended into chaos on May 26 after a Ford Galaxy slammed through crowds in the city centre. Horror clips showed fans tossed in the air, dragged under the vehicle and prams thrown down Water Street.


The suspect's name emerged as police officers and vans were stationed outside his four-bed £300,000 family home. Our sister title, the Mirror has chosen not to identify him.

[Glenn.]

I heard a man interviewed yesterday saying the car was driving very slowly and only sped up when people started to bang on the windows...this sounds like a complete police failure tbh

Hooligans

[Ammi]

A nine-year-old was the youngest victim injured when a car was driven into crowds at Liverpool's victory parade, police said, as they continue to question a suspect.
Merseyside Police confirmed the age of the victims hurt in the incident on Water Street on Monday ranged from nine to 78.

The car had also struck the pram of a baby boy who was being pushed by his parents, but the child was not hurt, despite the pram spinning metres down the street after it was hit.

[Ammi]

Emergency fund set up for Liverpool parade victims

A fundraising campaign set up for those affected by the Liverpool FC parade incident has raised more than £30,000, including a £10,000 donation from ex-player Jamie Carragher's charity foundation.
Money raised by Liverpool Spirit Appeal will be distributed to those experiencing physical or psychological injuries after a car struck fans at the parade on Monday, as well as to community groups, organisers said.
The fund has been launched by the Community Foundation for Merseyside, in partnership with the council and voluntary services.
Rae Brooke from the Community Foundation said people wanted "to do something" to help, adding: "Jamie is just amazing, he is always the first to step up."
"We know just how generous people are in the Liverpool area," Ms Brooke said.
"Our priority is those individuals who were injured in that terrible event.
"After that, supporting grassroots organisations at a local level who give wellbeing support in the community, a listening ear and will help people try and process what happened that day."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlj9jr4wxno

[arista]

Police Live Now

[arista]

Give us his name will you

[arista]

Paul Doyle Now Charged

Many charges
in Court Tomorrow


Live Now

[arista]

SkyNewsHD showed his Photo

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/29/17/98869909-0-image-a-45_1748535536155.jpg


The CEO Driver Doyle

[arista]

In Court Tomorrow

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05/29/17/98869909-0-image-a-45_1748535536155.jpg


The Junkie Driver Doyle

You keep saying junkie but police have not confirmed what drugs he was on? I think there is alot of ass covering going on here because the police don't seem to have acted quickly enough to stop this driver and witnesses say he was going extremely slowly to begin with, so why the stewards didn't tap on his window and ask him to stop is anyones guess

[MTVN]

None of the charges are for driving under the influence of drink or drugs :think:

[arista]

[Liverpool parade driver is charged over 'horrific' carnage
that left 79 football fans injured:
Middle-class company director, 53, with three children
will appear in court after 'ploughing car into crowd']

Paul Desmond Doyle


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14756369/Liverpool-drug-driver-charged-parade-crush.html

[arista]

You keep saying junkie but police have not confirmed what drugs he was on? I think there is alot of ass covering going on here because the police don't seem to have acted quickly enough to stop this driver and witnesses say he was going extremely slowly to begin with, so why the stewards didn't tap on his window and ask him to stop is anyones guess


Yes the
Police are Terrible and Brief


I am Not

[AnnieK]

He's not been charged with any drug offences

The 53-year-old has now been charged with dangerous driving, causing grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent, wounding with intent to cause GBH and attempted GBH.

[Liam-]

So can people now stop pretending he’s just a normal bloke that didn’t know what he was doing because he was impaired?

[arista]

[Paul Doyle, from West Derby on Merseyside,
has been charged with
dangerous driving,
causing GBH with intent,
wounding with intent to cause GBH
and attempting to cause GBH with intent.

The former Royal Marine commando
is married with three teenage children
and lives in a smart £300,000,
four-bedroomed detached property
on a neat estate.]

[Cherie]

6pm: A dark grey Ford Galaxy enters Dale Street, which is packed with fans who had gathered to see Liverpool FC's Premier League victory parade

2

6.01pm: The vehicle is surrounded by fans and reverses, colliding with one. One man kicks at the boot and attempts to break the rear window before the vehicle reverses again, colliding with him

3

6.02pm: The vehicle makes its way along Dale Street, to the confusion of fans. The man who was reversed into throws an object which smashes the car’s rear window

4

6.02pm: As the vehicle passes a William Hill bookmakers on Dale Street, fans remonstrate with the driver. One opens the driver’s door which he closes while beeping his horn, before ‘revving hard’ and accelerating forward.

5

6.03pm: The vehicle carries on for around 200 yards through crowds and gets past a roadblock at the top of Water Street by tailgating an ambulance that was allowed in. Footage on social media showsanumber of police at the scene and fans hitting the car


6.03pm: The car accelerates rapidly into the crowd, with fans bouncing off its bonnet as it swerves at speed. One is carried on the bonnet a number of yards and more than a dozen are initially trapped underneath. One witness says a baby is injured

6.04pm: As the car comes to a halt with a number of bystanders trapped underneath hundreds of fans attempt to get to the driver, with some shouting: ‘Kill him!’

6.05pm: As fans manage to open the vehicle’s doors, the driver is grabbed by police officers and bundled into a nearby police van.