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Redway
27-05-2025, 10:07 PM
Me and Ammi were kind of having this discussion earlier and it just got me thinking about broader patterns re. drinking alcohol on certain medications that aren’t inherently red-flagged when in combination (clonazepam, Valium, certain antibiotics, all that sort of stuff). Do you definitely feel more crap after a nightcap/weekend or night out or does alcohol affect you just the same as it would if you weren’t on those meds?

Redway
27-05-2025, 10:12 PM
I do think a lot of it’s pearl-clutching fluff. Certain obvious combinations to avoid (certain benzos, certain antibiotics, like I said) but more broadly, asking a Brit. to give up something so deeply engrained in the culture is a lot to ask. That might work in Canada, where people seem to drink less, but not here. So unless it’s strictly necessary I just wouldn’t give up alcohol for the sake of medication. I don’t think it’s worth it, even in my era of continually pointing out the hypocrisy between alcohol and other illicit/medicinal vices. I’m not a huge drinker (not anymore) but tramadol’s just not that good to have me skipping out on all I do drink these days, being honest. I couldn’t.

Redway
28-05-2025, 11:32 PM
Anyone?

Barry.
28-05-2025, 11:43 PM
I don’t drink alcohol but I take meds but didn’t know how to answer your poll

Redway
29-05-2025, 12:01 AM
I don’t drink alcohol but I take meds but didn’t know how to answer your poll

“I don’t really drink anyway” (option-no. 4)

Kate!
29-05-2025, 01:08 AM
I'm on meds and I drink very little these days but I have done in the past while I've been on them.

bots
29-05-2025, 03:45 AM
Alcohol does directly interfere with my meds, so i can't drink more than 1 or 2 units on a given day

Cherie
29-05-2025, 06:37 AM
I picked other, I don't take any meds

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 06:47 AM
I picked other, I don't take any meds

But you are clearly bonkers in the nut :joker:

Cherie
29-05-2025, 06:55 AM
But you are clearly bonkers in the nut :joker:

I will take that as a compliment, I would hate to be called average :hee:

Jessica.
29-05-2025, 07:07 AM
If you can't get by without alcohol then you've got a big problem. You're on meds for a reason, you need them. Nobody needs alcohol.

AnnieK
29-05-2025, 07:24 AM
I picked other, I don't take any meds

Same.....

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:14 AM
If you can't get by without alcohol then you've got a big problem. You're on meds for a reason, you need them. Nobody needs alcohol.

I don’t think you understand how deeply alcohol is embedded in British culture, for better or worse. It would be like going vegan in the name of medication, which is similarly unthinkable to most people. That might be alright for you but most people aren’t like that.

Ammi
29-05-2025, 08:30 AM
…this is what the alcohol change UK site says in regards to alcohol/medication ….

There are a few problems that alcohol can cause when you’re on a course of medication:
Alcohol may stop the medication from working so well
Alcohol might make the side-effects of your medicine worse or make them more likely to happen
The mix of alcohol and your medicine may make you sleepy or slow your reactions, which could leave you unable to drive to undertake other tasks that need concentration. This is particularly true of prescription-only painkillers such as dihydrocodeine, gabapentin, tramadol, morphine and pethidine
The medicine might make you more sensitive to the effects of alcohol, meaning you become more drunk more quickly. Some people might like that idea in theory, but it’s very difficult to control and the chances of becoming unwell or having an accident are high
Both paracetamol and alcohol can damage the liver if taken in excess, so it’s worth asking your pharmacist about this, particularly if you’ve ever had any liver problems
Your doctor or pharmacist may advise you to avoid alcohol if you’re taking medicines that affect the brain or nervous system, thin your blood, alter your blood pressure, or cause low blood sugar (hypoglycaemia)


…there is more information on the site…/…the link…


https://alcoholchange.org.uk/alcohol-facts/fact-sheets/alcohol-and-prescription-medication

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 08:34 AM
I don’t think you understand how deeply alcohol is embedded in British culture, for better or worse. It would be like going vegan in the name of medication, which is similarly unthinkable to most people. That might be alright for you but most people aren’t like that.

People are individuals with individual problems just because generations have consumed drinkthat’s not an excuse to continue doing so

My dad was a drinker but hasn’t consumed alcohol for many years due to being a diabetic

I’ve never touched alcohol

Ammi
29-05-2025, 08:37 AM
…I don’t think that it’s about anyone being expected to give up as such…it’s a responsibility to point out any possible warnings etc …both from the pharmaceutical companies and any medical people who have prescribed etc …with a GP, it would be hoped that they would know a personal medical history as well in terms of having some lifestyle knowledge of a patient that they’re prescribing for…it’s not really an expected thing, though…it’s just making sure that there is a complete information regarding dangers etc…the potentials of not being informed would/could be much more concerning, I feel…

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:37 AM
People are individuals with individual problems just because generations have consumed drinkthat’s not an excuse to continue doing so

My dad was a drinker but hasn’t consumed alcohol for many years due to being a diabetic

I’ve never touched alcohol

I figured.

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 08:40 AM
I figured.

You say that like it’s a bad thing

Drinking is overrated
Go sit in a and e on a weekend with a sick relative and see all the sad bastards the nhs has to deal with due to drink

Jessica.
29-05-2025, 09:26 AM
You say that like it’s a bad thing

Drinking is overrated
Go sit in a and e on a weekend with a sick relative and see all the sad bastards the nhs has to deal with due to drink

Yeah, it's a problem everywhere, people who can't control their drinking are a serious drain on resources.

Niamh.
29-05-2025, 09:45 AM
I picked other, I don't take any meds

Same

Cherie
29-05-2025, 10:08 AM
Same

You might not be alright in the head though apparently :laugh:

Niamh.
29-05-2025, 10:09 AM
You might not be alright in the head though apparently :laugh:

Probably not :hee:

bots
29-05-2025, 12:59 PM
Everything is relative. If you need the medication to live, the need for alcohol just isn't significant and drops to the bottom of the priority list.

Also, the older you get, generally speaking, the less important alcohol becomes. The responsibility of children, the fact that you may have medical needs, alcohol just doesn't rate as an issue to most people

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 01:23 PM
You might not be alright in the head though apparently :laugh:

That title was given to you cherie, don’t bring Niamh into it:joker:

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 01:24 PM
Everything is relative. If you need the medication to live, the need for alcohol just isn't significant and drops to the bottom of the priority list.

Also, the older you get, generally speaking, the less important alcohol becomes. The responsibility of children, the fact that you may have medical needs, alcohol just doesn't rate as an issue to most people

Totally agree

Cherie
29-05-2025, 03:09 PM
That title was given to you cherie, don’t bring Niamh into it:joker:

You seem to find yourself hilarious which is odd

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 03:36 PM
I don’t think you understand how deeply alcohol is embedded in British culture, for better or worse. It would be like going vegan in the name of medication, which is similarly unthinkable to most people. That might be alright for you but most people aren’t like that.

Most people I know who have needed/need to take medication and not drink alcohol whilst on them are able to do so. Myself included when I’ve needed medication.

Your claim is incorrect, and not factual. It’s your opinion. Unless you can pull some data which proves your claim.

Cherie
29-05-2025, 03:39 PM
Most people I know who have needed/need to take medication and not drink alcohol whilst on them are able to do so. Myself included.

Your claim is incorrect, and not factual. It’s your opinion. Unless you can pull some data which proves your claim.

Spot on, particularly with antibiotics if the doc says dont drink with these, you just dont, most people dont drink every day anyway so its not a big deal, I suppose if you are on lifetime meds though its different but again if mixing with alcohol will make them less effective then whats the point of taking them :shrug:

MTVN
29-05-2025, 03:58 PM
Are you proscribed all your meds Redway? You seem to take quite a cocktail even though I think you're relatively young and healthy?

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 04:43 PM
You seem to find yourself hilarious which is odd

The joker is there to show I’m not being nasty just joking

Livia
29-05-2025, 04:53 PM
Don't take anything that should be a problem but I don't drink that much anyway.

Redway
29-05-2025, 04:57 PM
Most people I know who have needed/need to take medication and not drink alcohol whilst on them are able to do so. Myself included when I’ve needed medication.

Your claim is incorrect, and not factual. It’s your opinion. Unless you can pull some data which proves your claim.

I’m taking long-term, Ben. Not just for a week or two. Would you give up your beloved flavoured gins forever in the name of tramadol?

Naturally I’m not talking empirical back-up and stats. Unless I say otherwise, I’m giving an opinion, and I’m also asking, similarly, for personal experiences. And you’re doubtlessly intelligent and able to deduce sub-text. Don’t make it awkward. You should know what I mean.

Cherie
29-05-2025, 05:10 PM
The joker is there to show I’m not being nasty just joking

oh right, gotcha

Redway
29-05-2025, 05:23 PM
Are you proscribed all your meds Redway? You seem to take quite a cocktail even though I think you're relatively young and healthy?

Actually, I take more supplements than anything-else. I have one or two prescriptions but nothing in the way of the number you seem to be thinking.

Redway
29-05-2025, 05:25 PM
Spot on, particularly with antibiotics if the doc says dont drink with these, you just dont, most people dont drink every day anyway so its not a big deal, I suppose if you are on lifetime meds though its different but again if mixing with alcohol will make them less effective then whats the point of taking them :shrug:

Antibiotics (“full-spectrum” antibiotics anyway) are completely different, likewise with certain benzos. I made a separate example of them closer to my OP and I’m not talking about them. I’m not talking about a short course of antibiotics or diazepam. I mean meds that you take long-term and if some of the pearl-clutching warnings because of worst-case scenarios concerned wouldn’t be mixed with alcohol at all.

Redway
29-05-2025, 05:30 PM
You say that like it’s a bad thing

Drinking is overrated
Go sit in a and e on a weekend with a sick relative and see all the sad bastards the nhs has to deal with due to drink

I say the same thing about alcohol all the time. You know I do. I’m very anti over-hemming of alcohol into common culture. But that doesn’t mean I’d want to abstain altogether if it wasn’t truly necessary. I look forward to my beer and bottle of Lambrini on a Saturday night.

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 05:33 PM
I say the same thing about alcohol all the time. You know I do. I’m very anti over-hemming of alcohol into common culture. But that doesn’t mean I’d want to abstain altogether if it wasn’t truly necessary. I look forward to my beer and bottle of Lambrini on a Saturday night.

Lambrini is gut rot

Redway
29-05-2025, 05:55 PM
Lambrini is gut rot

All alcohol is, really. But I’d rather have Lambrini as a vice than vodka.

thesheriff443
29-05-2025, 05:58 PM
All alcohol is, really. But I’d rather have Lambrini as a vice than vodka.

There is that

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2025, 06:02 PM
Lambrini is a girls drink

Redway
29-05-2025, 06:04 PM
Lambrini is a girls drink

So misogynistic, as-always.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2025, 06:30 PM
So misogynistic, as-always.

Im not the one drinking Lambrini

:joker:

Redway
29-05-2025, 06:45 PM
Im not the one drinking Lambrini

:joker:

Exactly the point.

Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2025, 06:51 PM
Lets ask AI

AI Overview

Lambrini is a popular perry (pear cider) brand that is often associated with a female demographic. Its marketing campaigns have often emphasized a "girls' night out" theme. Lambrini has a fruity and sweet taste, and is marketed as a refreshing and light drink. The brand has also been associated with a punk/queer rock band called Lambrini Girls.

Redway
29-05-2025, 06:57 PM
Lets ask AI

AI Overview

Lambrini is a popular perry (pear cider) brand that is often associated with a female demographic. Its marketing campaigns have often emphasized a "girls' night out" theme. Lambrini has a fruity and sweet taste, and is marketed as a refreshing and light drink. The brand has also been associated with a punk/queer rock band called Lambrini Girls.

Either way, you say that like its a bad things that anything feminine is bad. Coming from the guy who admits that there are times when even the blokiest of blokes must drink wine to not be seen as uncivilised (aka at restaurants), probably aware of the fact that there was a time when women weren’t seen as good connoisseurs of wine, I wouldn’t expect you to hang onto stereotypes. So what if more women than men opt for Lambrini? What’s your point?

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 07:18 PM
I’m taking long-term, Ben. Not just for a week or two. Would you give up your beloved flavoured gins forever in the name of tramadol?

Naturally I’m not talking empirical back-up and stats. Unless I say otherwise, I’m giving an opinion, and I’m also asking, similarly, for personal experiences. And you’re doubtlessly intelligent and able to deduce sub-text. Don’t make it awkward. You should know what I mean.

Again I know plenty on long term who have for medication. And I probably would too. There’s many non alcoholic drinks around now to suffice, and I often find myself drinking them more than alcohol now.


The way you put things across are as though you are stating facts not your opinion.

Redway
29-05-2025, 07:40 PM
Again I know plenty on long term who have for medication. And I probably would too. There’s many non alcoholic drinks around now to suffice, and I often find myself drinking them more than alcohol now.


The way you put things across are as though you are stating facts not your opinion.

To you, maybe, but that’s not the intent. Deal with it.

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 07:45 PM
To you, maybe, but that’s not the intent. Deal with it.

I don’t have to deal with anything. I’m pointing it out. I think it’s you who needs to deal with it seeing as you’re getting irate about it. :laugh:

Redway
29-05-2025, 07:48 PM
I don’t have to deal with anything. I’m pointing it out. I think it’s you who needs to deal with it seeing as you’re getting irate about it. :laugh:

You’ve been pointing out that I’m stating an opinion as fact just-because you disagree with me. And I told you to deal with me not agreeing with you. That’s all. You like to trouble-make over objectivity vs. subjectivity in semantics. I told you giving an opinion.

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 07:52 PM
You’ve been pointing out that I’m stating an opinion as fact just-because you disagree with me. And I told you to deal with me not agreeing with you. That’s all. You like to trouble-make over objectivity vs. subjectivity in semantics. I told you giving an opinion.

Yes, I am known for my troublemaking over semantics. ;)

You’re right I do disagree with you. You’ve said most people. I’d agree if you said some, but most people are not raging alcohol dependants.

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:00 PM
Yes, I am known for my troublemaking over semantics. ;)

You’re right I do disagree with you. You’ve said most people. I’d agree if you said some, but most people are not raging alcohol dependants.

And I couldn’t care less. You do you.

Most people aren’t raging alcohol-dependents, sure. But most people do enjoy a drink on the weekend at-least occasionally. Keep arguing with yourself in the meantime, though. You’re welcome to waste your time and energy however you like. We don’t have to like each-other to co-exist on this forum. I’m no fan of you and you’re no fan of mine. That’s another thing we can both deal with. You find me disagreeable and I find you annoyingly contrary and pedantic with me just for the sake of it. You drive me nuts but we can live with that. Two people who don’t like each-other have no business communicating with each-other anyway. We rub each-other up the wrong way just by breathing the same air so what’s the point in any of this?

Beso
29-05-2025, 08:14 PM
I used to take ambien or ambient, can't really recall what 8t was called.. it's illegal in UK. Stopped me dreaming, worked well with moderate drinking.

Also good at weekends with excessive drinking, and no work next day. Stopped me thinking dark ****. Didnt half drool though.



Take nothing now, don't want to drain the nhs for something I can deal with fresh minded nowadays

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 08:22 PM
And I couldn’t care less. You do you.

Most people aren’t raging alcohol-dependents, sure. But most people do enjoy a drink on the weekend at-least occasionally. Keep arguing with yourself in the meantime, though. You’re welcome to waste your time and energy however you like. We don’t have to like each-other to co-exist on this forum. I’m no fan of you and you’re no fan of mine. That’s another thing we can both deal with. You find me disagreeable and I find you annoyingly contrary and pedantic with me just for the sake of it. You drive me nuts but we can live with that. Two people who don’t like each-other have no business communicating with each-other anyway. We rub each-other up the wrong way just by breathing the same air so what’s the point in any of this?

Bit sensitive much somebody doesn’t agree with you. If you don’t want people disagreeing with your opinion probably best not to post it. You’re such a joke of a person. :laugh:

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:31 PM
Bit sensitive much somebody doesn’t agree with you. If you don’t want people disagreeing with your opinion probably best not to post it. You’re such a joke of a person. :laugh:

That would bother me more if you know me in any tangible real-life capacity and you hadn’t just jumped back out of nowhere after 12 years on the other side of the world. I don’t count on strangers who aren’t even in my virtual loop to validate or acknowledge my presence as a non-joke of a person.

You can’t tell me who I am. You don’t know me. It’s funny when random strangers on the internet who aren’t even in your PMs or even general mutual virtual understanding, as far as it goes, talk as-if they do.

I think I’ll just put you on ignore and leave it there. I don’t like you and you don’t like me (which goes beyond us just disagreeing, and you know that, in all your vague, thinly-veiled rudeness and passive-aggressiveness) and I’m not wasting any more time on you. You’re not worth it, and I think you know that, too. Bye-bye.

Beso
29-05-2025, 08:35 PM
You going to vote in your own poll Redway

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:38 PM
I used to take ambien or ambient, can't really recall what 8t was called.. it's illegal in UK. Stopped me dreaming, worked well with moderate drinking.

Also good at weekends with excessive drinking, and no work next day. Stopped me thinking dark ****. Didnt half drool though.



Take nothing now, don't want to drain the nhs for something I can deal with fresh minded nowadays

Isn’t Ambien just a sleeping tablet?

Beso
29-05-2025, 08:38 PM
…I don’t think that it’s about anyone being expected to give up as such…it’s a responsibility to point out any possible warnings etc …both from the pharmaceutical companies and any medical people who have prescribed etc …with a GP, it would be hoped that they would know a personal medical history as well in terms of having some lifestyle knowledge of a patient that they’re prescribing for…it’s not really an expected thing, though…it’s just making sure that there is a complete information regarding dangers etc…the potentials of not being informed would/could be much more concerning, I feel…



You not voting in the poll but spewing out advice like there's no tomorrow makes me want to overdose on valium and vodka.

Beso
29-05-2025, 08:39 PM
Isn’t Ambien just a sleeping tablet?

Hillbilly heroin is what the yanks called it.

Benjamin
29-05-2025, 08:50 PM
That would bother me more if you know me in any tangible real-life capacity and you hadn’t just jumped back out of nowhere after 12 years on the other side of the world. I don’t count on strangers who aren’t even in my virtual loop to validate or acknowledge my presence as a non-joke of a person.

You can’t tell me who I am. You don’t know me. It’s funny when random strangers on the internet who aren’t even in your PMs or even general mutual virtual understanding, as far as it goes, talk as-if they do.

I think I’ll just put you on ignore and leave it there. I don’t like you and you don’t like me (which goes beyond us just disagreeing, and you know that, in all your vague, thinly-veiled rudeness and passive-aggressiveness) and I’m not wasting any more time on you. You’re not worth it, and I think you know that, too. Bye-bye.

Off you **** then. ;)

Redway
29-05-2025, 08:51 PM
No-doubt Ben’s popped up with follow-up noise and nonsense but like I said I’m drawing the boundary where I drew it. It’s up to him if he wants to keep on wasting his time. I’m not wasting any more of mine. Let him keep shouting pedantically into the void over a complete stranger. It’s funny at this point, the foolishness. Go on, then. Have the last word if you want it so bad.