People asked not to lay flowers in Southport.

[Kate!]

Labour has banned people via Sefton Local Council, which is a Labour one, from laying floral tributes almost a year on from the Southport massacre.

DISGRACEFUL

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Edit. Story is misleading, I believed it, my bad. Thread title has been changed.

[Livia]

How will they stop people? Police in riot gear?

[Cherie]

Who is this guy, he keeps refering to the murderer as a Muslim immigrant when he in fact was born in the UK, immigrant family yes but a British Citizen and as far as I am aware he was not a Muslim, if you are going to have a rant at least get the facts straight or it makes you look uninformed and silly.


As for the public not being allowed to lay flowers I have no idea why anyone thought this was a good idea?

[Cherie]

How will they stop people? Police in riot gear?

Well exactly, can't see people taking any notice of this nonsense

[Livia]

Well exactly, can't see people taking any notice of this nonsense

If I lived in Southport I'd make a point of laying some flowers.

[BBXX]

Isn't this at the request of the families of the victims, and those who survived?

They have said they are setting up spaces around the city where people can pay their respects, they are asking people to instead of buying flowers to donate to specific charities, they're having a 3 minute silence to mark the day and they're flying flags at half mast.

I don't see the issue personally.

[Liam-]

So you’re telling me that people are making things up again to use the poor victims as an excuse to stir up hatred? Shocker

[Ammi]

Isn't this at the request of the families of the victims, and those who survived?

They have said they are setting up spaces around the city where people can pay their respects, they are asking people to instead of buying flowers to donate to specific charities, they're having a 3 minute silence to mark the day and they're flying flags at half mast.

I don't see the issue personally.

…I think that the Liverpool mark of flying public building flags at half mast is touching gesture also and a great mark of respect…?….but yeah, I believe that the request was made to express the wishes of the families..as they’ve asked for flowers to not be left but there will be 3 minute silence observed in Southport on the anniversary…and I think the decision by the families to ask for donations for local Southport causes/as prose to floral tributes is very lovely, also…an horrendously difficult time for those families and all of Southport, also…

The families of the Southport victims and survivors have asked for people not to leave flowers at the scene to mark the first anniversary of the attack.
An open letter from Sefton Council said no large-scale public gatherings or vigils were planned and instead local spaces were being identified for people to go and pay their respects.
The council said there would be a three-minute silence from 15:00 BST on 29 July and asked "everyone to join with us wherever you may be".
Alice Aguiar, aged nine, Elsie Dot Stancombe, aged seven, and Bebe King, aged six, were murdered at a dance workshop on Hart Street by Axel Rudakubana, then aged 17.
Eight other children and two adults were seriously injured in the knife attack before Rudakubana, from Banks in Lancashire, was arrested.
He was jailed for life with a minimum term of 52 years in January after admitting three counts of murder, 10 of attempted murder, producing the biological toxin ricin and a terrorism offence.
Sefton Council said a "significant" amount of planning and consultation had gone into how the first anniversary of the attack would be marked.

Addressing the public, the council said: "Your compassion has been a source of comfort to all affected through their darkest days.
"The shared grief, countless acts of kindness and especially the commitment to honouring the memory of Alice, Bebe, and Elsie have meant more than words can express.
"This period is incredibly hard for the families of Alice, Bebe and Elsie and all of those children and adults injured or who suffered lifelong psychological impact of witnessing the attack, and we acknowledge the huge impact on their lives too."
It added: "We must not forget the local people who rushed to support and to our emergency responders. They all remain always in our thoughts."
The council urged that "in respect of this deeply personal time" no floral tributes be laid in Hart Street or at any school settings linked to any of the children involved.
Instead, it said, it encouraged people to donate to local causes including The Southport Stronger Together Appeal, Elsie's Story, Bebe's Hive, Hope's Help, Alice's Wonderance, The Southport Hesketh Round Table and North West Air Ambulance.
The open letter said faith and community leaders had been consulted on providing spaces within neighbourhoods for local people to mark the date in their own way.
Flags on public buildings both in Southport and the entire Liverpool City Region will be lowered to half-mast, it added.

…full article…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c39zpy7exgvo

[Livia]

Again, how are they going to stop people?

[Kate!]

Again, how are they going to stop people?

Yeah it's wrong, people still want to express their emotions and regrets.

[Cherie]

If the families have requested it then it should be respected, though unfortunately that does not always happen

[Kate!]

So you’re telling me that people are making things up again to use the poor victims as an excuse to stir up hatred? Shocker

Labour don't need anyone stirring up hatred and it's more disgusting than anything. They are doing a great job of alienating everyone all by themselves. Lowlifes.

[Kate!]

In an open letter published at midday on Tuesday, Sefton Council said the solidarity showed by the community would “shine bright” in the coming weeks and an “incredible amount of consideration, thought and planning” had been given to how the day would be marked.

The letter said: “In respect of this deeply personal time, we ask that no floral tributes be laid at either Hart Street or at school settings.

[Liam-]

Labour don't need anyone stirring up hatred and it's more disgusting than anything. They are doing a great job of alienating everyone all by themselves. Lowlifes.

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

[Kate!]

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

I wasn't lying about anything. Calm your horses. I was reporting a news story I heard. I see it is not factual.

I'll change the thread title, no problem whatsoever. I have no beef.

Although I was completely correct to say Labour are alienating everybody and in lots of different ways.

[Livia]

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

No one's lying.

[Liam-]

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

[Kate!]

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

Pipe down. Thread title amended. God's sake.

[joeysteele]

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons


I now rarely post politically on here now as I no longer see any real reason or point to.
This wasn't a factual thread at it's outset, so at least it's been altered but not the opening post.
It's NOTHING to do with Labour, not that I'm a strong defender of Labour currently.

However I just wanted to express my agreement with your post above.

[Beso]

One of my favourite clips was starmer laying his wreath. He was fuming.

[Glenn.]

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

:clap1:

[Kate!]

I now rarely post politically on here now as I no longer see any real reason or point to.
This wasn't a factual thread at it's outset, so at least it's been altered but not the opening post.
It's NOTHING to do with Labour, not that I'm a strong defender of Labour currently.

However I just wanted to express my agreement with your post above.


The opening post has actually been edited.

[Glenn.]

You added a sentence at the end :joker:

Get rid of the lot.

[Kate!]

You added a sentence at the end :joker:

Get rid of the lot.

No.

[Glenn.]

Maybe a mod can just delete the whole mess then. We have a lot of rage bait posted on here as it is.

[Kate!]

Maybe a mod can just delete the whole mess then. We have a lot of rage bait posted on here as it is.

Not fussed if they do although it would be hypocritical as you didn't have the decency to amend your recent title which is now double wrong btw.

[Glenn.]

Nope still more truth than this Facebook mum trash

[Kate!]

Nope still more truth than this Facebook mum trash

Which I acknowledged in bold! Run along now. I'm having a great day. Can't be arsed with your ridiculous nonsense.

[Glenn.]

Which I acknowledged in bold! Run along now. I'm having a great day. Can't be arsed with your ridiculous nonsense.


My ridiculous nonsense? Now now who’s the hypocrite now :joker:

Your lack of awareness truly is mind blowing.

Enjoy your evening love x

[Kate!]

My ridiculous nonsense? Now now who’s the hypocrite now :joker:

Your lack of awareness truly is mind blowing.

Enjoy your evening love x

:hee:

[Beso]

Maybe a mod can just delete the whole mess then. We have a lot of rage bait posted on here as it is.

Have a seat.

[Glenn.]

She was like a rabid dog frothing at the mouth in my thread demanding the title was changed.

[Kate!]

She was like a rabid dog frothing at the mouth in my thread demanding the title was changed.

:joker::joker::joker: takes one to know one.

[Glenn.]

Anyway

[Beso]

Anyway

Woof.

[Cherie]

Love, Dear, the casual sexism from the person always crying about homophobic is just hilarious

[Glenn.]

Here’s the other one that’s taken a shine to me lately. I’m flattered

[Cherie]

Here’s the other one that’s taken a shine to me lately. I’m flattered

Just lay off the casual sexism and I wont bother with you cheers

[Glenn.]

Just lay off the casual sexism and I wont bother with you cheers


I speak the same to both male and female people like that. It’s not sexist hun

[Kate!]

I speak the same to both male and female people like that. It’s not sexist hun

Don't care, it drips with sarcasm and insincerity. Stop it.

[Kate!]

Woof.

:joker::joker:

[Glenn.]

Don't care, it drips with sarcasm and insincerity. Stop it.


Don’t think I was talking to you? Lemme check….

Nope. Off you pop, you’re not arsed with me are you

[Kate!]

Don’t think I was talking to you? Lemme check….

Nope. Off you pop, you’re not arsed with me are you

Not particularly but then I'm reminded how asinine you are.

Woof!

[Glenn.]

Be really funny if she was reply, considering how little she’s arsed with my “nonsense”

I wonder if she can resist.

[Glenn.]

She’s waaaaay too predictable

[Kate!]

She’s waaaaay too predictable

Bite me.

[Kate!]

Still lolling at Parm.

Woof!

[Glenn.]

Some people are just easily pleased obviously

[Kate!]

Some people are just easily pleased obviously

Nowt wrong with having a giddy sense of humour. Now now.

[Kate!]

Don't say you wouldn't have laughed if someone said it to me.

[Glenn.]

Bless your little heart. I’m happy for you!

[Kate!]

Bless your little heart. I’m happy for you!

Sure Joe.

[Glenn.]

Don't say you wouldn't have laughed if someone said it to me.


Something normally has to be funny for me to laugh. If you genuinely thought it was funny then maybe my sense of humour is a tad more sophisticated.

[Kate!]

Something normally has to be funny for me to laugh. If you genuinely thought it was funny then maybe my sense of humour is a tad more sophisticated.

:shrug: please yourself. Not bothered. I liked it. It was witty cos you said rabid dog. Imo. Toodle off to bed it's nearly witching hour.

[Glenn.]

:shrug: please yourself. Not bothered. I liked it. It was witty cos you said rabid dog. Imo. Toodle off to bed it's nearly witching hour.


Not bothered- proceeds to explain why she thinks it’s funny.

Bless her

[Kate!]

Not bothered- proceeds to explain why she thinks it’s funny.

Bless her

Meant I'm not bothered you think your humour is sophisticated. Pretentious. My ass!.

Woof!

[Kate!]

Well this is entertaining

[Glenn.]

Again. If you’re entertained by this we have very different tolerances. I can see why someone who was duped by a rage bait video can see why this is funny.

[Kate!]

Again. If you’re entertained by this we have very different tolerances. I can see why someone who was duped by a rage bait video can see why this is funny.

It's YOU that's funny. Talk about me being a rabid dog. Lmao. I can see you frothing from here and can guarantee you'll reply to this as you can't stand not having the last word.

Ah well it'll all be gone in the morning. And probably I'll get punished but :idc:

Pathetic. Took you an hour earlier to come back and say "anyway" which is what you always say when you have no comeback.

[Kate!]

AND so what if I'm a bit soft and gullible.

Far far better than being a cold hearted fish.

[Glenn.]

Glad you can finally admit it. You may well be able to see some more of your failings now your eyes are open a bit more.

Silver linings! We love character growth. Well done you!

[Kate!]

Glad you can finally admit it. You may well be able to see some more of your failings now your eyes are open a bit more.

Silver linings! We love character growth. Well done you!

More of my failings???? Being soft hearted isn't a failing. Being a bit gullible isn't a crime. I've never said I'm anything else. It's the horrible people in life who take the piss by treating people like myself like dirt who have the real flaws. And don't get your rag off, I'm not talking about you. I mean the people that mattered, past tense, in my life who I've now binned off. Yes we do live and learn.

Also you want to acknowledge your own faults. Hypocrite. You whine about mine. I'd rather be like me than you anyway. I changed my thread title and apologised in the OP. Go away.

[Glenn.]

Yawn. Victim card played. I’m done. Bore off :joker:

Off for a snuggle with my lovely man.

[Kate!]

Yawn. Victim card played. I’m done. Bore off :joker:

Off for a snuggle with my lovely man.

:joker: off you pop then. I'm not a victim. I'm a survivor. You're like a flea, flicked away in a second.

It's so sad how you have to ram it home about a perfect life all the time. Empty pots make the most noise.

[Glenn.]

:joker: off you pop then. I'm not a victim. I'm a survivor. You're like a flea, flicked away in a second.

It's so sad how you have to ram it home about a perfect life all the time. Empty pots make the most noise.

Act like one then babe. The victim card is boring.

My life is perfect. And definitely perfect compared to yours. The only thing I’ve stolen from my man is his heart. It’s a shame you can’t say the same.

[Kate!]

And this post as well was baiting. I clearly had changed my thread title and apologised in the OP for getting it wrong.

Sick of him.

[Glenn.]

Put that card away

[Kate!]

Act like one then babe. The victim card is boring.

My life is perfect. And definitely perfect compared to yours. The only thing I’ve stolen from my man is his heart. It’s a shame you can’t say the same.

Looool. My man loves me despite everything. **** off.

[Glenn.]

Looool. My man loves me despite everything. **** off.

I’m sure he does babe

[Kate!]

I’m sure he does babe

Oh he absolutely does. Or we'd not have survived now would we.

Stop being so goddamm nasty.

[Glenn.]

That’s what I said hun x

[Kate!]

And DO NOT call me babe. You've already being told about being sexist.

[Kate!]

Go away like you said you were.

[Glenn.]

Not sexist hun. I literally speak like this to everyone. Male and female. It’s only sexist if it’s directed at one specific sex x

[Kate!]

Not sexist hun. I literally speak like this to everyone. Male and female. It’s only sexist if it’s directed at one specific sex x

You don't on here? Never have I seen you address a male as such.

I've asked you to stop doing it. And you've banged on about going to your other half yet you're still here making nasty digs. Cos you can't bear to not have the last word.

[Kate!]

ANYWAY

[Glenn.]

Oh sweetheart there’s that lack of self awareness again.

[Kate!]

Oh sweetheart there’s that lack of self awareness again.

Fcuk off.

[Glenn.]

You can’t bang on about me wanting the last word whilst continually replying to every post I make. Sometimes posting twice to my one.

[Kate!]

You can’t bang on about me wanting the last word whilst continually replying to every post I make. Sometimes posting twice to my one.

:idc: you keep replying also. I'm not the one who made a massive point about being done cos your boyfriend was there.

[Glenn.]

:joker:

[Glenn.]

You can tell you’re tired because you’ve had like 3 edits of that. Go to sleep hun x

[Kate!]

Virtually nobody likes you here. Maybe 2 people.

[Glenn.]

Some text book bullying there

[Kate!]

Urgh.

[Kate!]

Some text book bullying there

You should know.

[Glenn.]

No no. What you’ve just done is literally textbook bullying. It’s a tactic bullies have to try and isolate people. Nasty really.