Southend Airport :Small plane crashed 'Fireball' (4 dead)

[arista]

Shocking as it was taking off


Black Smoke


https://news.sky.com/story/fireball-at-southend-airport-after-small-plane-crashes-13396214


Hit the Ground
around 4PM
Sky News reported

[Crimson Dynamo]

Plane 'was travelling to the Netherlands'

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fireball-at-southend-airport-after-small-plane-crashes/ar-AA1Iw8bq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6873de4052ad44afad2bafbe976150b3&ei=8

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/13/17/100270105-14901549-image-m-14_1752422938416.jpg

As it hit the ground

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/13/17/100270479-14901549-image-a-25_1752423851166.jpg

[arista]

The Type of Plane

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/13/17/100270419-14901549-image-a-24_1752423655520.jpg


From this link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14901549/Plane-crashes-moment-takeoff-Southend-Airport.html

[arista]

Plane 'was travelling to the Netherlands'


Could be Locals
or a nice Holiday

[arista]

Good on SkyNewsHD

Showing the Smoke
with a Sports match in the next field


BBCnewsHD is pathetic
just showing a stock photo of the airport.

[arista]

The MP speaking Live on SkyNewsHD
said do not speculate?

NO
I will put 12 Feared Dead


Bugger you

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/13/17/100270535-0-image-m-31_1752424270444.jpg

[arista]

SkyNewsHD reports
its a sub section, of the Airport.

Dutch Company owns this plane.

Let's hope our Nicky has an update


The Nearby Rugby Club
and Golf Club
have now ended their session early.

[arista]

2 other planes were due to land there,
they have now landed in Gatwick.

[Ammi]

…another devastating/tragic aircraft incident…and for those on the ground watching also and waving to the pilot and then watching it all become a fireball…incredibly tragic…

[Nicky91]

SkyNewsHD reports
its a sub section, of the Airport.

Dutch Company owns this plane.

Let's hope our Nicky has an update


The Nearby Rugby Club
and Golf Club
have now ended their session early.

we don't know as for now who was on board of that jet, if it were tourists, or some high profile VIP

[arista]

we don't know as for now who was on board of that jet, if it were tourists, or some high profile VIP


Sky News said it could be a Medical Plane
so well less people in it.


I do hope the People behind this plane
give a update soon.

[arista]

Confirmed all 4 on the plane died


News conference 3PM

[Nicky91]

since this plane veered to the left after takeoff, my initial thoughts are this could be a case of assymetric thrust

[Nicky91]

It reached a maximum altitude of just 175 feet before losing control.

The aircraft had a vertical speed of only 129 feet per minute and a ground speed of 96 knots, which is unusually low for a climb phase



so this could be either

1) improper center of gravity due to overloading, since it was a medical transport aircraft, it might've been carrying specialized equipment, possibly even a stretcher, and if the weight was not balanced properly, this could lead to a loss of control

2) Mechanical or Flight System Faults: either failure of one engine—especially at low altitude—requires precise corrective input? or A misconfigured rudder trim, flap setting, or even a stuck control input could turn fatal that quickly.

3) Pilot Actions and Condition: Were the pilots fatigued or under stress? Any preexisting health issues could also play a role in reaction times. like with TAROM flight 371

4) Environmental and External Factors: The weather was reportedly clear, but wind shear or even bird strike can’t be ruled out yet. or Any obstruction near the runway? Fuel contamination?

[Nicky91]

also witnesses saw the pilots waving at people before departure, so much for a sterile cockpit then


especially at takeoff, you need full attention at takeoff and nothing else

[Nicky91]

fatigue could play a role

i mean from Athens to Pula, 2 hours and 10 minutes

Pula ground operations (unloading, loading and refueling) 40 minutes

Pula to London, 2 hours and 20 minutes


thats a total of 5 hours and 10 minutes, which would've given them 2 hours and something for rest and a meal



hmmmm that is quite a workload for these pilots

[Nicky91]

how about if there were a couple of full oxygen tanks on board?



More weight → higher drag → slower acceleration → lower rate of climb, especially at high engine loads.

If tanks were installed hastily or unevenly, you could get asymmetric roll or sluggish pitch response.

and

CG Shift Possibilities

If tanks are stored in the aft cabin or rear luggage bay, CG shifts rearward, which can:

Delay rotation during takeoff

Make the aircraft more pitch-sensitive or unstable

.


could also be a probable cause :think:

[Nicky91]

they used up approx. 3.500-4.000 feet of runway before they took off


normally a aircraft of this size takes up 2.500-3.000 feet of the runway in normal circumstances



so was it too heavy?

[Nicky91]

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

[Ammi]

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

…yeah I read that earlier…her first day on her job…/…31yrs old…at the moment not all identities have been confirmed, I believe…

[Ammi]

Maria Fernanda Rojaz Ortiz…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/14/19/100304253-0-image-a-11_1752518099005.jpg

[Cherie]

it were dutch pilots, and one of the passengers was a nurse named Maria, it was her first time being a nurse on board this medical transport

Such a tragedy, they had just dropped off a patient

[Beso]

It's a bit concerning we still dont know who was on board. How many more planes are flying in and out of the UK without the authorities knowing who's on board.

[Ammi]

…a second name has been released…

Dr Eyl, 46, is believed to be from the Kleinmaischeid municipality in Germany.

A social media tribute describes him as "a doctor, companion and friend". It goes on: "With his warm, honest, and humorous nature, he has not only provided medical assistance, but shaped our community. He was a man who listened, tackled and encouraged. Exactly when it came down to it. His commitment was not taken for granted, his loss is immeasurable.”

[arista]

…a second name has been released…

Dr Eyl, 46, is believed to be from the Kleinmaischeid municipality in Germany.

A social media tribute describes him as "a doctor, companion and friend". It goes on: "With his warm, honest, and humorous nature, he has not only provided medical assistance, but shaped our community. He was a man who listened, tackled and encouraged. Exactly when it came down to it. His commitment was not taken for granted, his loss is immeasurable.”

That is really sad,
to lose a Doctor

[Nicky91]

it is weird though that this aircraft has two flights without problems, from Athens to Pula, from Pula to London


what was so different about this fatal flight then?

[arista]

it is weird though that this aircraft has two flights without problems, from Athens to Pula, from Pula to London


what was so different about this fatal flight then?


Yes, they must go public
with what caused the crash.

[Cherie]

Yes, they must go public
with what caused the crash.

Is there anything left of the plane ...

[Cherie]

…a second name has been released…

Dr Eyl, 46, is believed to be from the Kleinmaischeid municipality in Germany.

A social media tribute describes him as "a doctor, companion and friend". It goes on: "With his warm, honest, and humorous nature, he has not only provided medical assistance, but shaped our community. He was a man who listened, tackled and encouraged. Exactly when it came down to it. His commitment was not taken for granted, his loss is immeasurable.”

RIP ...his last act was to deliver his patient and I would imagine the end was swift

[arista]

Is there anything left of the plane ...


Does not seem to be.

[Nicky91]

The aircraft flew five legs in two days: Lelystad → Memmingen → Athens → Pula → Southend → (intended) Lelystad

That’s over 10 hours of flight time in just 48 hours, not counting pre/post-flight duties.


:umm2:

[arista]

Yes, maybe different staff on the flights

More for the Company to give the whole truth


All 4 that died
were Foreign nationals

[Beso]

Some rich persons private doctors probably.

Wonder who.

[Beso]

George lazenby is on deaths door...and he played James bond.


Putin?

[Nicky91]

weather was calm at time of takeoff, visibility was fine either

[Nicky91]

5.775 KG, slightly above the max takeoff weight of 5.670 KG


not ideal, but nothing disastrous since you can compensate with different flap settings, like flaps 30?


or were these pilots unaware they were too heavy, since pilots in general sometimes rely on estimates, rather than precise figures

[bots]

Small planes are very dangerous and maintenance is not always the best it can be. Just look at that french footballer that crashed on his way to cardiff a few years ago

[Nicky91]

The plane was 31 years old but considered reliable and well-maintained

[arista]

The plane was 31 years old but considered reliable and well-maintained


Yes, old solid plane
but full of fuel
No escape

[Nicky91]

if it is mechanical failure, then why did the previous two flights that same day go smoothly?



The pilots of Zeusch Aviation Flight 1 were Captain Danny Marco Franken and First Officer Floris Christiaan Rhee


Danny Franken, aged 53, had also flown for KLM and was known for his experience and dedication

Floris Rhee, just 24, had joined Zeusch Aviation less than a year prior and was admired for his enthusiasm and professionalism

https://zeusch.com/holding_statement/



professionalism hmmmm, i mean we know they broke the sterile cockpit rule, by waving at people before takeoff


my money is on a weight imbalance issue

[Nicky91]

i did some maths, two scenarios


scenario 1 (with near empty oxygen tanks) 6.200kg

scenario 2 (with full oxygen tanks) 6.280kg


but both scenarios the plane would've been overweight at takeoff, maximum takeoff weight for this aircraft is 5.670kg



not entirely unusual, but certainly not ideal, and how to compensate for this, you require more runway to cover before taking off, otherwise if you take off too soon the angle might be too steep, and you might stall, which is something what could've happened

[Nicky91]

you know this plane had a full fuel load, hence the huge fireball we saw



the question more is why did these pilots not use up more runway at takeoff, when they likely were aware of them being more overweight


with two previous flights for these guys, which went without problems