Amy Bradley is Missing - Netflix

[Niamh.]

Just turned on Ep. 1 Ammi Cherie bots ??

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[Vanessa]

I was reading about this on facebook. I think she was trafficked.

[Cherie]

One for me for sure once I am finished my current watch

[Mystic Mock]

I was reading about this on facebook. I think she was trafficked.

Has that been confirmed?

[LaLaLand]

Binged this.

I was all for thinking she’d fell or, God forbid, jumped from the ship until the photograph of the escort. It does really look a lot like her and it makes me think “if it’s not her then who is it!?” - surely someone in all these years could have came forward and debunked that and say they know who that lady is (relative/friend etc) if it’s not Amy?

Also the Caribbean IP address lingering on the website dedicated to Amy on every birthday/anniversary etc. Spooky.

[Ammi]

…ahhhh, I’ve watched it…have you watched it all yet Niamh. …?….


…I’m not sure what to think, I’m very conflicted…I just can’t see how anyone could have got her off the ship so that she fell overboard is the obvious thing and makes the most sense…the IP address etc, I just don’t know because that’s hard to explain but if it was Amy then why would she be visiting that same site each time and not visiting current social media of her family as to following them now…I mean, she might be doing that as well…(…if it were her…)…but I don’t know, it just feels more trying to make it fit to feel she’s still alive and somehow they’ll be reunited…

[Ammi]

…ahhhh, I’ve watched it…have you watched it all yet Niamh. …?….


…I’m not sure what to think, I’m very conflicted…I just can’t see how anyone could have got her off the ship so that she fell overboard is the obvious thing and makes the most sense…the IP address etc, I just don’t know because that’s hard to explain but if it was Amy then why would she be visiting that same site each time and not visiting current social media of her family as to following them now…I mean, she might be doing that as well…(…if it were her…)…but I don’t know, it just feels more trying to make it fit to feel she’s still alive and somehow they’ll be reunited…

[Ammi]

…was Amy’s brother really named Brad Bradley…

[Ammi]

…I think…

…what makes me think that she fell as well is that if a trafficking gang was involved then it was risky to choose someone who was travelling with her family and also she didn’t disappear in the evening when there was so much activity and drinking and partying going on etc…it was after she went back to the cabin and in a very small window of time, which doesn’t all fit for me…

[Niamh.]

…was Amy’s brother really named Brad Bradley…

I know, why would they do that???

I have about 20 mins of the final episode left, I'll finish it at lunchtime today

[Ammi]

I know, why would they do that???

I have about 20 mins of the final episode left, I'll finish it at lunchtime today

…ok, I have a dental check up this morning so if you can get your report to me this afternoon, that would be super…:pipe:…

[Ammi]

…also…

…it’s not relevant to Amy’s disappearance but I’m intrigued as to the content of the three page letter that was sent to her partner by her father when Amy came out…

[Vanessa]

Has that been confirmed?

No just my thoughts after reading all the articles.

[Vanessa]

…I think…

…what makes me think that she fell as well is that if a trafficking gang was involved then it was risky to choose someone who was travelling with her family and also she didn’t disappear in the evening when there was so much activity and drinking and partying going on etc…it was after she went back to the cabin and in a very small window of time, which doesn’t all fit for me…

But she went with a guy and was seen in an elevator that only staff uses. Apparently only
him came back up?

[Vanessa]

Binged this.

I was all for thinking she’d fell or, God forbid, jumped from the ship until the photograph of the escort. It does really look a lot like her and it makes me think “if it’s not her then who is it!?” - surely someone in all these years could have came forward and debunked that and say they know who that lady is (relative/friend etc) if it’s not Amy?

Also the Caribbean IP address lingering on the website dedicated to Amy on every birthday/anniversary etc. Spooky.

The picture is definitely her. I'm 100% convinced.This is exactly why I don't go on cruises. People go missing in them all the time.

[Mystic Mock]

No just my thoughts after reading all the articles.

If you're correct then that's horrible.

[Niamh.]

Binged this.

I was all for thinking she’d fell or, God forbid, jumped from the ship until the photograph of the escort. It does really look a lot like her and it makes me think “if it’s not her then who is it!?” - surely someone in all these years could have came forward and debunked that and say they know who that lady is (relative/friend etc) if it’s not Amy?

Also the Caribbean IP address lingering on the website dedicated to Amy on every birthday/anniversary etc. Spooky.

Yeah, the eye witnesses who claim to have seen her, they may not be reliable, could be a different woman or they could just be making **** up for attention but that Photograph? That has to be her, I'd be very very sure that's the same person and back then photo editing wasn't like how it is today and you're right if it isn't Amy maybe the woman would have come forward or someone who knew who she is would?

…ahhhh, I’ve watched it…have you watched it all yet Niamh. …?….


…I’m not sure what to think, I’m very conflicted…I just can’t see how anyone could have got her off the ship so that she fell overboard is the obvious thing and makes the most sense…the IP address etc, I just don’t know because that’s hard to explain but if it was Amy then why would she be visiting that same site each time and not visiting current social media of her family as to following them now…I mean, she might be doing that as well…(…if it were her…)…but I don’t know, it just feels more trying to make it fit to feel she’s still alive and somehow they’ll be reunited…

I actually am also listening to a podcast about the case, it's being released by the week though so I'm only one episode in but I trust the podcast more than the Netflix show because they can have an angle to push as well. So far with the podcast I'm leaning to her falling off the ship but they're pretty early on in the story so we'll see where my opinion ends up after the podcast is finished.

The eye witnesses would throw you off though but you can never tell how reliable these are, if those two women (who were teenagers at the time) are correct about seeing Amy go into the elevator with "Yellow" between 5:30am-6am then that imo sways the story in the direction of her getting off the boat. maybe Yellow did give her a contact to get drugs and she'd planned to go off the ship first thing and then find her parents after but she got snatched by those people?) I don't know, there is a lot of eye witness reports of seeing her though

regarding the IP address and website, maybe whoever it is looks at all the websites but they haven't done a what those website owners did digging through all the IPs?

…I think…

…what makes me think that she fell as well is that if a trafficking gang was involved then it was risky to choose someone who was travelling with her family and also she didn’t disappear in the evening when there was so much activity and drinking and partying going on etc…it was after she went back to the cabin and in a very small window of time, which doesn’t all fit for me…

maybe they think abducting someone from a cruise liner is a good way to go because everyone would think they fell or jumped from the ship?

[Niamh.]

I did think it was odd and a bit silly though

That the people talking about the water searching were so sure that her body or part of her body or her clothes would have washed ashore had she fallen in the water. I was thinking if she'd gone in the water her body would probably never be found

[Niamh.]

Oh and can I just mention how much I disliked that Cruise director guy? and also the guy who claims to have spoken to her in the Brothel, serious creep vibes off that one

[caprimint]

This sounds so interesting, might watch it at some point

[Vanessa]

This sounds so interesting, might watch it at some point

It's fascinating. I've been reading about it.
But it's really put me off going on a cruise.

[Niamh.]

This sounds so interesting, might watch it at some point

It's very intriguing definitely

[Niamh.]

The picture is definitely her. I'm 100% convinced.This is exactly why I don't go on cruises. People go missing in them all the time.

When I was looking more online about the photo I found this article below, where there was a picture from the same ad and the girl in the photo is turned where you can see her shoulder and that Tasmanian Devil Tattoo that Amy had wasn't visible

https://images.ladbible.com/resize?type=webp&quality=1&width=640&fit=contain&gravity=auto&url=https://images.ladbiblegroup.com/v3/assets/bltcd74acc1d0a99f3a/bltd48e859ea77787aa/6880fe48e5a6a02f3ee7a92f/amy_bradley_netflix_photos_discovered.png

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/netflix/amy-bradley-theory-website-debunked-reddit-netflix-documentary-312897-20250723

[Niamh.]

Ok after doing a bit of research I now believe that

she either fell or jumped from the ship and that photo is not her :

https://i.imgur.com/vpShmQR.png
https://i.imgur.com/fvQ1OMN.png
https://i.imgur.com/EngTvBt.png
https://i.imgur.com/riwCFH2.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/5HJ3BOW.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/JOtpX05.png

Been reading a few opinions I've come across online and people are right when they say human sex trafficking really doesn't work that way, kidnapping adult women from cruise ships from well off families, it's high risk and traffickers generally target vulnerable women in bad situations that they can groom and who don't have people they can contact to help them. It makes sense really.

[Ammi]

When I was looking more online about the photo I found this article below, where there was a picture from the same ad and the girl in the photo is turned where you can see her shoulder and that Tasmanian Devil Tattoo that Amy had wasn't visible

https://images.ladbible.com/resize?type=webp&quality=1&width=640&fit=contain&gravity=auto&url=https://images.ladbiblegroup.com/v3/assets/bltcd74acc1d0a99f3a/bltd48e859ea77787aa/6880fe48e5a6a02f3ee7a92f/amy_bradley_netflix_photos_discovered.png

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/netflix/amy-bradley-theory-website-debunked-reddit-netflix-documentary-312897-20250723

…although there are facial similarities, I never felt that this was Amy…

[Ammi]

Ok after doing a bit of research I now believe that

she either fell or jumped from the ship and that photo is not her :

https://i.imgur.com/vpShmQR.png
https://i.imgur.com/fvQ1OMN.png
https://i.imgur.com/EngTvBt.png
https://i.imgur.com/riwCFH2.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/5HJ3BOW.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/JOtpX05.png

Been reading a few opinions I've come across online and people are right when they say human sex trafficking really doesn't work that way, kidnapping adult women from cruise ships from well off families, it's high risk and traffickers generally target vulnerable women in bad situations that they can groom and who don't have people they can contact to help them. It makes sense really.

…and this is also back to where I was at by the end…

….with the trafficking theory it felt to me that so many of the crew could have got access to home addresses etc of passengers so if there was an intension to abduct Amy…?…then surely they would wait for a more ‘planned’ kidnapping that wasn’t so risky…with this she was gone from her room and missing in such a short window of time and bundles away so that none of the room searches found her…?…and yet, off the boat in Curacao, I think it was…?…she was openly being ‘escorted’ by two men…not concealed at all and kept hidden…?…it’s just not making sense for me…and as sad as I do think that she somehow in not feeling well…(…maybe she fainted…)…she slipped or somehow reached and went overboard into the sea…it’s the thing that makes the most logical sense for me…

[Ammi]

I did think it was odd and a bit silly though

That the people talking about the water searching were so sure that her body or part of her body or her clothes would have washed ashore had she fallen in the water. I was thinking if she'd gone in the water her body would probably never be found

…oh that police guy from one of the islands that was explaining…

…well, even though there are sharks there would be some bits of her…an arm or a leg or …?…dear Lord, please stop…we don’t need you to explain what bits could be washed up…

[Niamh.]

…oh that police guy from one of the islands that was explaining…

…well, even though there are sharks there would be some bits of her…an arm or a leg or …?…dear Lord, please stop…we don’t need you to explain what bits could be washed up…

Yeah, that was a ridiculous thing to say I thought. I think he just wanted to say something to keep the mystery going and for his 5 minutes of fame

[Niamh.]

…and this is also back to where I was at by the end…

….with the trafficking theory it felt to me that so many of the crew could have got access to home addresses etc of passengers so if there was an intension to abduct Amy…?…then surely they would wait for a more ‘planned’ kidnapping that wasn’t so risky…with this she was gone from her room and missing in such a short window of time and bundles away so that none of the room searches found her…?…and yet, off the boat in Curacao, I think it was…?…she was openly being ‘escorted’ by two men…not concealed at all and kept hidden…?…it’s just not making sense for me…and as sad as I do think that she somehow in not feeling well…(…maybe she fainted…)…she slipped or somehow reached and went overboard into the sea…it’s the thing that makes the most logical sense for me…

She told her brother she wasn't feeling well, she could have gotten up on that table to be sick over the side and fell in (as the balcony barrier was high enough) or apparently neighbouring cabins said that man next door was playing loud music into the early hours, she was on the balcony so maybe she was trying to lean over into his to see what was going on and fell in or maybe it was a suicide, if you take into account, the letter "message in a bottle" to her girlfriend, the fact her parents did not accept her sexuality, the fact she had been drinking that night

[Ammi]

Yeah, that was a ridiculous thing to say I thought. I think he just wanted to say something to keep the mystery going and for his 5 minutes of fame

…I don’t think that there was anyone that wasn’t being truthful as such but I did get the feel that some of the 100% ‘sightings’ etc were people convincing themselves that they’d truly seen her and somehow she could be ‘saved’, you know…we absorb so much into our sub consciousness and then it can start to trick us into manipulating things to fit into place to an outcome we’d like…

[Niamh.]

Ammi

what did you think about Yellow's daughter's part in it? Claiming that her mother saw pictures of white women in Yellows suitcase etc? (maybe he was just a bit of a perv who liked to steal photos of young women from the cruise and that's why he didn't want to admit anything to his daughter)

[Ammi]

She told her brother she wasn't feeling well, she could have gotten up on that table to be sick over the side and fell in (as the balcony barrier was high enough) or apparently neighbouring cabins said that man next door was playing loud music into the early hours, she was on the balcony so maybe she was trying to lean over into his to see what was going on and fell in or maybe it was a suicide, if you take into account, the letter "message in a bottle" to her girlfriend, the fact her parents did not accept her sexuality, the fact she had been drinking that night

…yeah and didn’t she take her too/shirt off also and it was commented by her father…(…I think…)…that she might have taken it off because she felt that she might vomit and didn’t want her shirt to get anything on it…the other thing is with the drinking…?…if there was an intention to abduct Amy, then wouldn’t her brother have sensed signs of her drink being spiked with something…/some sleeping drug or something…surely that would have been an obvious thing but they had a perfectly fine conversation …waiting until she went back to the room with her brother and she was in there with three members of her family and it was then morning time is an odd time to plan an abduction…other passengers and crew are going to be up and about as well…

[Ammi]

Ammi

what did you think about Yellow's daughter's part in it? Claiming that her mother saw pictures of white women in Yellows suitcase etc? (maybe he was just a bit of a perv who liked to steal photos of young women from the cruise and that's why he didn't want to admit anything to his daughter)

…yeah, that’s exactly what I thought of it…that, that seemed very dodgy and actually even removing a kidnapping/abduction of Amy specifically wouldn’t mean that there still wasn’t some link to trafficking and some crew members of passenger cruise liners…

[Niamh.]

…yeah and didn’t she take her too/shirt off also and it was commented by her father…(…I think…)…that she might have taken it off because she felt that she might vomit and didn’t want her shirt to get anything on it…the other thing is with the drinking…?…if there was an intention to abduct Amy, then wouldn’t her brother have sensed signs of her drink being spiked with something…/some sleeping drug or something…surely that would have been an obvious thing but they had a perfectly fine conversation …waiting until she went back to the room with her brother and she was in there with three members of her family and it was then morning time is an odd time to plan an abduction…other passengers and crew are going to be up and about as well…

Yes exactly, abducting her close to 6am is a massive risk to take, lots of people would be getting up around then especially since the ship would be docking that morning and why if she had been drugged would she decide to leave the room?

[Ammi]

Yes exactly, abducting her close to 6am is a massive risk to take, lots of people would be getting up around then especially since the ship would be docking that morning and why if she had been drugged would she decide to leave the room?

…it just doesn’t seem to have logic to it, does it…the thing would have been to try to slip her away while everyone was partying and crowded…but for Amy and her brother to go back to their room and her be there until the morning/daylight and then taken…?… hmmmmm…

[Vanessa]

I've read of people going missing that way. They take pictures on the cruise, but then the pictures vanish.
I've always wondered if it was because of human trafficking. But who knows it's just bizarre.

[Cherie]

Finished it now

what was the whole telephone call between Yellow and his daughter that seemed so staged, like why would you doubt your Dad like that, wonder if she was paid alot of money for it, they found Amys shoes on the balcony so its more likely she fell in, highly unlikely she would have left the cabin in her bare feet, seems like she might have been drunk or high and leaned out a bit too far or something although if she did fall, would she not start screaming and someone would have heard her? so my conclusion then is suicide, maybe she was struggling with her sexuality and her parents were not particularly on board with it, like Neem I would like to have seen the contents of a 3 page letter, I felt alot of the people interviewed were there for the publicity and yeah that marine or whatever he was he didnt say anything as he was two years off his pension or something...just bizarre