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Glenn.
15-08-2025, 03:00 PM
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Taylor Swift has announced her 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl, set for release on October 3, 2025. The date choice is deliberate, with the numbers adding up to Swift’s well-known lucky number 13.

The album was written and recorded in Sweden during breaks on the European leg of her Eras Tour. Swift has reunited with long-time collaborators Max Martin and Shellback, the team behind reputation, 1989, and Red. The project marks a return to upbeat, polished pop following the introspective tone of The Tortured Poets Department.

The Life of a Showgirl embraces a theatrical, cabaret-inspired style, with a visual identity built around feathers, sequins, and a bold orange colour palette. The album artwork features Swift in a crystal-embellished outfit while submerged in a bathtub, with a dramatic short black bob hairstyle.

The 12-track album features no additional “vault” songs. The complete tracklist is as follows:
1.The Fate of Ophelia
2.Elizabeth Taylor
3.Opalite
4.Father Figure (George Michael cover)
5.Eldest Daughter
6.Ruin the Friendship
7.Actually Romantic
8.Wi$h Li$t
9.Wood
10.CANCELED!
11.Honey
12.The Life of a Showgirl (featuring Sabrina Carpenter)

Swift announced the project during an appearance on the New Heights podcast, hosted by Travis and Jason Kelce. The episode broke viewing records and drove significant online discussion. Pre-orders are available now for vinyl, cassette, and CD editions, the latter including a poster.

Industry expectations are high, with early indicators pointing toward another major commercial success for the artist.

Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 03:13 PM
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arista
15-08-2025, 03:21 PM
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Taylor Swift has announced her 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl, set for release on October 3, 2025. The date choice is deliberate, with the numbers adding up to Swift’s well-known lucky number 13.

The album was written and recorded in Sweden during breaks on the European leg of her Eras Tour. Swift has reunited with long-time collaborators Max Martin and Shellback, the team behind reputation, 1989, and Red. The project marks a return to upbeat, polished pop following the introspective tone of The Tortured Poets Department.

The Life of a Showgirl embraces a theatrical, cabaret-inspired style, with a visual identity built around feathers, sequins, and a bold orange colour palette. The album artwork features Swift in a crystal-embellished outfit while submerged in a bathtub, with a dramatic short black bob hairstyle.

The 12-track album features no additional “vault” songs. The complete tracklist is as follows:
1.The Fate of Ophelia
2.Elizabeth Taylor
3.Opalite
4.Father Figure (George Michael cover)
5.Eldest Daughter
6.Ruin the Friendship
7.Actually Romantic
8.Wi$h Li$t
9.Wood
10.CANCELED!
11.Honey
12.The Life of a Showgirl (featuring Sabrina Carpenter)

Swift announced the project during an appearance on the New Heights podcast, hosted by Travis and Jason Kelce. The episode broke viewing records and drove significant online discussion. Pre-orders are available now for vinyl, cassette, and CD editions, the latter including a poster.

Industry expectations are high, with early indicators pointing toward another major commercial success for the artist.


Does she have a
Real Drummer

Real Bass Player

Real Guitarist

Real Piano and Electric keyboard player &

Real Percussionist.

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 03:32 PM
Does she have a
Real Drummer

Real Bass Player

Real Guitarist

Real Piano and Electric keyboard player &

Real Percussionist.


Yes. She tours with a full live band and has done for years. Her core lineup includes a drummer, bassist, guitarist, keyboardist, and additional multi-instrumentalists. They’re on stage with her for every major tour, including Eras. Even in heavily produced pop tracks, the live arrangements are played by the band.

Zizu
15-08-2025, 04:51 PM
Does she have a
Real Drummer

Real Bass Player

Real Guitarist

Real Piano and Electric keyboard player &

Real Percussionist.


Dua Lipa also has a fabulous live backing band …


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Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 05:01 PM
Dua Lipa also has a fabulous live backing band …


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and she is prettier, dances better and has a better voice!

Zizu
15-08-2025, 05:04 PM
and she is prettier, dances better and has a better voice!


No doubt , completely agree


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Glenn.
15-08-2025, 05:08 PM
and she is prettier, dances better and has a better voice!


Mr protect women’s rights there guys, reducing a woman to her looks.

The rest is factually incorrect.

Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 05:13 PM
Mr protect women’s rights there guys, reducing a woman to her looks.

The rest is factually incorrect.


Dua LIPA is more an adults pop act and Swift is more for kids

that seems to be true

Also Lipa is current, Swift is more yesterday's news

But I know she has fans in the USA and in India/Pakistan area

Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 05:15 PM
"Some fans have interpreted comments made by Dua Lipa in interviews as digs at Taylor
Swift, particularly regarding the personal nature of songwriting."

Lol everyone and their dog knows Swift is acrimonious about all her ex boyfriends! - she would have nothing to write about otherwise

:laugh:

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 05:25 PM
Yeah, because in 2025 nothing screams ‘yesterday’s news’ like breaking every touring and sales record going. If Dua’s the future, she might want to sell more than a third of what Taylor shifts on a quiet week.

Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 05:32 PM
Yeah, because in 2025 nothing screams ‘yesterday’s news’ like breaking every touring and sales record going. If Dua’s the future, she might want to sell more than a third of what Taylor shifts on a quiet week.

Millions watch Mrs Browns Boys

:skull:

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 05:34 PM
80 million streams a WEEK and you’re talking crap about Mrs Browns boys :skull:

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 05:40 PM
Monthly listeners (Spotify)
• Taylor Swift: ~105 million
• Dua Lipa: ~65 million

Total Spotify streams (lead artist)
• Taylor Swift: ~56.3 billion
• Dua Lipa: ~37.3 billion

All-platform global streams
• Taylor Swift: Over 65 billion
• Dua Lipa: Over 40 billion

So Taylor has about 40% more monthly listeners and roughly 50% more lifetime streams than Dua. In raw audience terms, Dua is huge, but Taylor is operating in a bigger league.

Zizu
15-08-2025, 05:44 PM
"Some fans have interpreted comments made by Dua Lipa in interviews as digs at Taylor
Swift, particularly regarding the personal nature of songwriting."

Lol everyone and their dog knows Swift is acrimonious about all her ex boyfriends! - she would have nothing to write about otherwise

:laugh:


She had a hit or two from splitting up with one of my idols John Mayer plus all her fans turned on him


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Zizu
15-08-2025, 05:45 PM
Millions watch Mrs Browns Boys

:skull:


That will always be one of life’s unsolved mysteries


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Glenn.
15-08-2025, 05:54 PM
Dua LIPA is more an adults pop act and Swift is more for kids

that seems to be true

Also Lipa is current, Swift is more yesterday's news

But I know she has fans in the USA and in India/Pakistan area

Also
nearly half of Swift’s fans are in their late 20s to early 40s. The rest spread across Gen X and boomers, with a smaller but still present Gen Z slice.

Zizu
15-08-2025, 05:58 PM
Also bear in mind Taylor Swift has been having hits since 2006 so she is bound to have far more fans


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Glenn.
15-08-2025, 06:01 PM
Taylor Swift has 105M monthly listeners, 65B streams, a $1B tour, 12 albums, and 14 Grammys. She’s donated millions to disaster relief, education, and LGBTQ+ causes, paid her crew massive bonuses, and funds local food banks on tour. 18 years in, she’s still the biggest name in music.

Zizu
15-08-2025, 06:11 PM
Taylor Swift has 105M monthly listeners, 65B streams, a $1B tour, 12 albums, and 14 Grammys. She’s donated millions to disaster relief, education, and LGBTQ+ causes, paid her crew massive bonuses, and funds local food banks on tour. 18 years in, she’s still the biggest name in music.


It’s impossible to compare their careers until both are retired and then you can lay all the facts and data down on the table


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Crimson Dynamo
15-08-2025, 06:12 PM
It’s impossible to compare their careers until both are retired and then you can lay all the facts and data down on the table


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well so far Dua Lipa's music is far better to listen too

Vanessa
15-08-2025, 06:21 PM
I like the album artwork.

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 06:27 PM
And to write and record the album during the highest grossing tour of all time too. Powerhouse

Barry.
15-08-2025, 06:51 PM
Not a Taylor fan but 12 albums is good, the people must still want more

BBXX
15-08-2025, 07:08 PM
A few of her songs are catchy but IMO 12 albums in 20 years shows lack of quality. There is no denying she's a powerhouse, no denying she works hard and no denying she's popular - but does she churn out actually good content? I don't personally think so, and I'm not sure how you can at that quantity.

It's a bit like when you go to a restaurant and there are dozens of choices. You know it's not made fresh and you know it'll be poor quality but maybe the fried chicken will taste good?

Just my feelings on TayTay.

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 07:13 PM
A few of her songs are catchy but IMO 12 albums in 20 years shows lack of quality. There is no denying she's a powerhouse, no denying she works hard and no denying she's popular - but does she churn out actually good content? I don't personally think so, and I'm not sure how you can at that quantity.

It's a bit like when you go to a restaurant and there are dozens of choices. You know it's not made fresh and you know it'll be poor quality but maybe the fried chicken will taste good?

Just my feelings on TayTay.


12 albums in 20 years and she’s still breaking every touring, streaming, and sales record going. She’s won 14 Grammys, including Album of the Year three times — the only artist ever to do it. Every album goes multi-platinum, she writes or co-writes every track, and she’s mastered multiple genres. She even disappeared from the spotlight for years after the Kanye West and Kim Kardashian mess, only to come back bigger than ever

Her lyrics are incredible.

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 07:16 PM
• Taylor Swift – ~245 songs in 18 years (11 original albums, 4 re-records, EPs, soundtracks, standalone tracks)
• Ed Sheeran – ~120 songs in 14 years (6 studio albums, EPs, collaborations)
• Beyoncé – ~170 songs in 21 years (7 studio albums, soundtracks, deluxe editions)
• Adele – ~58 songs in 17 years (4 studio albums, bonus tracks)
• Drake – ~275 songs in 15 years (8 studio albums, mixtapes, collaborations)
• The Beatles – ~213 songs in 8 years (13 albums plus singles and B-sides)

Taylor’s output is among the highest for a top-tier mainstream act, especially considering she writes or co-writes every track and often produces them. The only contemporary with a similar volume is Drake, but his release style is rap-mixtape heavy rather than carefully crafted albums.

BBXX
15-08-2025, 07:27 PM
12 albums in 20 years and she’s still breaking every touring, streaming, and sales record going. She’s won 14 Grammys, including Album of the Year three times — the only artist ever to do it. Every album goes multi-platinum, she writes or co-writes every track, and she’s mastered multiple genres. She even disappeared from the spotlight for years after the Kanye West and Kim Kardashian mess, only to come back bigger than ever

Her lyrics are incredible.

Yeah I am saying that quantity is a bad thing. What happens to her in the space of 2 years for her to be able to produce an album of songs with any significant meaning?

I am not saying she isn't successful, she evidently is. I'm just saying personally I think her songs are poor and her producing 12 albums in 20 years shows that.

I personally cannot agree her lyrics are incredible, her lyrics to me are like candy floss - sweet and a bit addictive but ultimately they have no substance.

Don't even get me started on her CO2 output.

Just my opinion :)

Benjamin
15-08-2025, 07:35 PM
A few of her songs are catchy but IMO 12 albums in 20 years shows lack of quality. There is no denying she's a powerhouse, no denying she works hard and no denying she's popular - but does she churn out actually good content? I don't personally think so, and I'm not sure how you can at that quantity.

It's a bit like when you go to a restaurant and there are dozens of choices. You know it's not made fresh and you know it'll be poor quality but maybe the fried chicken will taste good?

Just my feelings on TayTay.

I’d agree for most of her albums, but there has been a few which have been pretty good too tbf - Red (Taylor’s version) and Evermore I actually really enjoyed.

BBXX
15-08-2025, 07:38 PM
I’d agree for most of her albums, but there has been a few which have been pretty good too tbf - Red (Taylor’s version) and Evermore I actually really enjoyed.

That's the fried chicken then :laugh:

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 07:39 PM
Yeah I am saying that quantity is a bad thing. What happens to her in the space of 2 years for her to be able to produce an album of songs with any significant meaning?

I am not saying she isn't successful, she evidently is. I'm just saying personally I think her songs are poor and her producing 12 albums in 20 years shows that.

I personally cannot agree her lyrics are incredible, her lyrics to me are like candy floss - sweet and a bit addictive but ultimately they have no substance.

Don't even get me started on her CO2 output.

Just my opinion :)


If you can say that about her lyrics then I’m afraid you just haven’t listened to enough of her songs.
Which evidently haven’t because she’s not your thing.

Her last album was 31 songs

BBXX
15-08-2025, 07:49 PM
Her last album was 31 songs

I don't think that's a good thing :laugh: But different strokes etc, I hope you enjoy her new album :)

arista
15-08-2025, 07:49 PM
Yes. She tours with a full live band and has done for years. Her core lineup includes a drummer, bassist, guitarist, keyboardist, and additional multi-instrumentalists. They’re on stage with her for every major tour, including Eras. Even in heavily produced pop tracks, the live arrangements are played by the band.

What about her New CD?

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 07:50 PM
What about her New CD?


I would imagine so.

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 07:51 PM
I don't think that's a good thing :laugh: But different strokes etc, I hope you enjoy her new album :)


She keeps her fans fed :shrug:

Ammi
15-08-2025, 08:20 PM
…it feels as though the UK BB eye for autumn 2025 has been the inspiration for her album cover colour choices…

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/08/14/03/101202225-14998515-Taylor_Swift_has_officially_revealed_the_release_d ate_for_her_hi-a-85_1755139924369.jpg

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 08:22 PM
I said this to my other half :joker:

Ammi
15-08-2025, 08:27 PM
I said this to my other half :joker:

…and coincidence that she reveals her new album cover just a few days after the new BB eye is also revealed…?…:laugh:…or a huge BBUK fan, I think so…:fan:…

Glenn.
15-08-2025, 08:43 PM
…and coincidence that she reveals her new album cover just a few days after the new BB eye is also revealed…?…:laugh:…or a huge BBUK fan, I think so…:fan:…


She’s full of surprises

Mystic Mock
15-08-2025, 09:05 PM
The one blonde that the Far Right doesn't drool over.:laugh:

Good luck to her.:dance:

Mystic Mock
15-08-2025, 09:07 PM
and she is prettier, dances better and has a better voice!

Both girls are pretty tbf.

Vocal I will personally agree with you.

And I don't follow either girl enough to know who's the better dancer.:joker:

Mystic Mock
15-08-2025, 09:11 PM
Yeah, because in 2025 nothing screams ‘yesterday’s news’ like breaking every touring and sales record going. If Dua’s the future, she might want to sell more than a third of what Taylor shifts on a quiet week.

Both are hugely successful artists tbf.

And we surely can agree that both are better than Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo.

Mystic Mock
15-08-2025, 09:15 PM
well so far Dua Lipa's music is far better to listen too

That doesn't mean it'll be more commercial.

In fact I would argue that most of what I would consider to be the best singers or the best songs rarely ever are the most successful.

Mystic Mock
15-08-2025, 09:18 PM
• Taylor Swift – ~245 songs in 18 years (11 original albums, 4 re-records, EPs, soundtracks, standalone tracks)
• Ed Sheeran – ~120 songs in 14 years (6 studio albums, EPs, collaborations)
• Beyoncé – ~170 songs in 21 years (7 studio albums, soundtracks, deluxe editions)
• Adele – ~58 songs in 17 years (4 studio albums, bonus tracks)
• Drake – ~275 songs in 15 years (8 studio albums, mixtapes, collaborations)
• The Beatles – ~213 songs in 8 years (13 albums plus singles and B-sides)

Taylor’s output is among the highest for a top-tier mainstream act, especially considering she writes or co-writes every track and often produces them. The only contemporary with a similar volume is Drake, but his release style is rap-mixtape heavy rather than carefully crafted albums.

I feel sorry for the other singers being put in a list with Drake.

His Music is barely above Justin Bieber level imo.

Zizu
15-08-2025, 09:41 PM
well so far Dua Lipa's music is far better to listen too


I’d agree but that’s just our personal taste


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Zizu
15-08-2025, 09:46 PM
• Taylor Swift – ~245 songs in 18 years (11 original albums, 4 re-records, EPs, soundtracks, standalone tracks)
• Ed Sheeran – ~120 songs in 14 years (6 studio albums, EPs, collaborations)
• Beyoncé – ~170 songs in 21 years (7 studio albums, soundtracks, deluxe editions)
• Adele – ~58 songs in 17 years (4 studio albums, bonus tracks)
• Drake – ~275 songs in 15 years (8 studio albums, mixtapes, collaborations)
• The Beatles – ~213 songs in 8 years (13 albums plus singles and B-sides)

Taylor’s output is among the highest for a top-tier mainstream act, especially considering she writes or co-writes every track and often produces them. The only contemporary with a similar volume is Drake, but his release style is rap-mixtape heavy rather than carefully crafted albums.


If we are including the Beatles then it’s fair to mention that a ridiculously high % of their songs were 10/10 ones .. far higher than any other artist

There was something a while back where they said the sheer number of absolutely amazing songs put them on a level with all the legendary composers like Schubert, Brahms and Mozart etc etc


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Nicky91
16-08-2025, 08:12 AM
you can't compare Dua Lipa and Taylor Swift honestly


Dua has a more 80s synth pop sound anyway


while Taylor is more versatile and can do either country pop and regular pop

Zizu
16-08-2025, 09:02 AM
you can't compare Dua Lipa and Taylor Swift honestly


Dua has a more 80s synth pop sound anyway


while Taylor is more versatile and can do either country pop and regular pop


I quite like a few of Taylor’s songs out of hundreds… I really like the vast majority of Dua’s stuff

Dua is constantly improving as a singer/ performer- she hated having to dance initially but she’s hard to tell apart from her backing dancers nowadays


As regards Taylor Swift… I tried her last album and hated it ..as I recall only one track was decent — sounded like she was trying something different


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jones89
16-08-2025, 10:50 AM
I’m really not a Taylor fan tbh, haven’t listened to any of her stuff since the ‘Lover’ album but something’s kind of intriguing me about this new album, i like the vibe and the aesthetic of it.. i’ll see what the lead single is giving

Zizu
16-08-2025, 02:24 PM
The Ed Sheeran of his time.:laugh:


Surely he hasn’t got female admirers !?!?

I can’t abide that second rate busker

He is by far the worst plagiarist in the history of music !!


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Mystic Mock
16-08-2025, 07:31 PM
Surely he hasn’t got female admirers !?!?

I can’t abide that second rate busker

He is by far the worst plagiarist in the history of music !!


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Aren't women Ed Sheeran's main bulk of his fanbase?

Benjamin
16-08-2025, 07:32 PM
Aren't women Ed Sheeran's main bulk of his fanbase?

That and chavs.

Mystic Mock
16-08-2025, 07:33 PM
That and chavs.

I haven't heard that word in awhile.:laugh:

Zizu
16-08-2025, 09:01 PM
Aren't women Ed Sheeran's main bulk of his fanbase?


I presumed it was bots ( online bots) and fellow buskers

LOL


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Mystic Mock
17-08-2025, 01:11 AM
I presumed it was bots ( online bots) and fellow buskers

LOL


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:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
18-08-2025, 04:56 PM
Taylor Swift Details Writing New Album With Travis Kelce Watching ‘Family Guy’
In Background


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NEW YORK—Sharing new details about The Life Of A Showgirl, pop superstar
Taylor Swift revealed Monday that she wrote the forthcoming album while
boyfriend Travis Kelce watched Family Guy in the background. “From the first
song to the last, he was there for the entire process, sprawled out on the
couch with his mouth agape and his arm in a box of Cheez-Its,” said Swift,
who noted that while, officially, Sabrina Carpenter was the only other
featured artist on the album, if fans listened closely they would be able to
periodically hear Kelce saying, “Ha ha ha, Quagmire.” “The Tortured Poets
Department was all American Dad, but lately, Travis has been on a real
Family Guy kick. Sometimes I found it distracting, sure. But as an artist, you
have to learn to take inspiration from the world around you. Pay attention to
the track ‘Eldest Daughter.’ You might notice a few Meg allusions.” Swift
added that both Kelce and Seth MacFarlane were credited as co-writers on
the album.

Mystic Mock
18-08-2025, 05:23 PM
Taylor Swift Details Writing New Album With Travis Kelce Watching ‘Family Guy’
In Background


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NEW YORK—Sharing new details about The Life Of A Showgirl, pop superstar
Taylor Swift revealed Monday that she wrote the forthcoming album while
boyfriend Travis Kelce watched Family Guy in the background. “From the first
song to the last, he was there for the entire process, sprawled out on the
couch with his mouth agape and his arm in a box of Cheez-Its,” said Swift,
who noted that while, officially, Sabrina Carpenter was the only other
featured artist on the album, if fans listened closely they would be able to
periodically hear Kelce saying, “Ha ha ha, Quagmire.” “The Tortured Poets
Department was all American Dad, but lately, Travis has been on a real
Family Guy kick. Sometimes I found it distracting, sure. But as an artist, you
have to learn to take inspiration from the world around you. Pay attention to
the track ‘Eldest Daughter.’ You might notice a few Meg allusions.” Swift
added that both Kelce and Seth MacFarlane were credited as co-writers on
the album.

Good taste from Kelce.:dance:

Glenn.
18-08-2025, 05:25 PM
We love the onion

Crimson Dynamo
18-08-2025, 05:41 PM
Good taste from Kelce.:dance:

I knew Quagmire would be his fave

Mystic Mock
18-08-2025, 05:45 PM
I knew Quagmire would be his fave

Giggity! Giggity!:laugh:

Parmy
18-08-2025, 05:45 PM
The 35 yr old using lyrics like, "dude down bad" she's selling her soul to appeal to 15 yr olds...sad.

Glenn.
18-08-2025, 05:46 PM
Taylor Swift gave one of the most revealing and unguarded interviews of her two-decade career this week, and she did it completely on her own terms.

The world’s biggest superstar has always been masterful at controlling the narrative around her art and her personal life, but as she embarked upon the rollout of The Life of a Showgirl on the New Heights podcast with boyfriend Travis Kelce on Wednesday, she didn’t even try pulling any of the usual levers of the mainstream media landscape, circumventing them entirely instead.

To be fair, it’s been years since Swift’s had to employ the traditional album rollout strategy that a smaller artist may be beholden to. She doesn’t have to lock a Rolling Stone cover, nor does she need to rub elbows at listening parties or meet and greets (one of which turned traumatic for the budding popstar in 2013). And given her track record on the awards circuit, she could reliably announce her newest era during a Grammys telecast or the VMAs or whenever she so chooses.

But the New Heights’ appearance sets a new standard. She didn’t even have to go through the likes of the new media guard, such as Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy. With Travis by her side, this was safe. No moment carried any risk. Anything Swift didn’t want out in the world won’t ever see the light of day. And so, Swift could relax. As some Swifties online wrote, she dropped the “interview voice.”

Whether what we saw this week was the real Taylor Swift or yet another meticulously guarded layer for the world’s savviest pop star is unclear. But her fans have certainly bought in.

“This is the most we have ever learned about this woman in a single day, ever,” reads the top comment on Swift’s subreddit discussion of the New Heights episode. “ Still can’t believe we were like, allowed to listen to her talk that openly. I feel like I was eavesdropping,” another fan wrote.

Never has Swift managed to grant so much of herself to the public while relinquishing so little of her own control. Has there ever been a pop culture figure as famous as Taylor Swift who’s been less reliant on traditional media to share their message?

Even beyond the bounds of a traditional journalistic interview, Swift still managed to reveal lots of news, from how she sent her brother and mother to negotiate with Shamrock Capital first for her masters, to her return to working with legendary songwriter Max Martin on her upcoming record.

From a marketing level, the result was an overwhelming success. As Swift herself said on the podcast this week: “I’m always trying to figure out how to make music into more of an event. How do we make it romantic?”

With 1.3 million live viewers, it was the most-viewed podcast premiere in YouTube history since the platform launched podcasts back in 2023. The episode itself already has over 15 million views in just two days. The episode drove enough traffic to cause a mini-crash toward the end of the premiere.

The rest of the media world followed suit, too, with news outlets feverishly breaking out stories on every individual soundbite she gave, from the throwaway lines about her affinity for baking sourdough to the love story of Kelce’s early days courting her on the very podcast she was now gracing.

Agency over her legacy has been the throughline of Swift’s 2025 thus far. Following a six-year battle in what became one of the biggest controversies in music industry history, Swift finally gained ownership of her masters back in May. “All of the music I’ve ever made… now belongs… to me,” Swift declared in a triumphant letter she posted on her website.

And with that acquisition, she’s beholden to no one. Swift is the architect of her own musical world around her, a situation most of her contemporaries only dream of. As she revealed to the Kelces this week, it’s a move she’s been saving up for since she was a teenager. The master rights on every one of her 12 albums (and four Taylor’s Version re-records) are hers alone, as are the drawings and journals from her childhood. She has long retained her publishing and runs her own management company, with most of her team acting as Swift’s employees.

With just under two months until The Life of a Showgirl will inevitably take over the world, we’re still only at the beginning of the marketing whistles she’ll ring to build the hype around her next era. But this week makes it as clear as ever: the media needs Taylor Swift. But Swift has everything she needs all on her own.

Queen

Glenn.
18-08-2025, 05:50 PM
The 35 yr old using lyrics like, "dude down bad" she's selling her soul to appeal to 15 yr olds...sad.


What song is that then?

Crimson Dynamo
18-08-2025, 05:51 PM
Giggity! Giggity!:laugh:

https://media.tenor.com/Bpzx-LVNE8AAAAAM/quagmire-big-arm.gif

Mystic Mock
18-08-2025, 05:53 PM
https://media.tenor.com/Bpzx-LVNE8AAAAAM/quagmire-big-arm.gif

What a legend.:dance:

Parmy
18-08-2025, 05:54 PM
What song is that then?

Down bad..admittedly it doesn't have the dude bit.

Glenn.
18-08-2025, 05:55 PM
Down bad..admittedly it doesn't have the dude bit.


No it doesn’t

And the rest of your post was predictably wrong too

- The largest share of Taylor Swift fans are millennials (age 27–42).

Overall, though, her fanbase spans nearly all adult age groups—many are in their 30s and 40s.

Glenn.
19-08-2025, 12:37 PM
Excuse me where is my post about Miss Taylor selling out her vinyls gone

Jordan.
19-08-2025, 12:58 PM
The musical equivalent of the colour beige. Her marketing team earn every penny they make.

Glenn.
19-08-2025, 02:22 PM
The musical equivalent of the colour beige. Her marketing team earn every penny they make.


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Zizu
19-08-2025, 02:56 PM
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That is a horrible clip to post in a public forum


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Glenn.
19-08-2025, 03:46 PM
Why

Zizu
19-08-2025, 03:58 PM
Why


Some of us don’t like seeing innocent people smashed in the face


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Glenn.
19-08-2025, 03:58 PM
How do you know she was innocent?

Zizu
19-08-2025, 03:59 PM
How do you know she was innocent?


It would still be shocking / unpleasant viewing


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Glenn.
19-08-2025, 04:00 PM
Are you autistic by any chance? Not being rude, genuinely wondering

Zizu
19-08-2025, 04:15 PM
Are you autistic by any chance? Not being rude, genuinely wondering


Yes


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