Keir Starmer's woes thread.

[Mystic Mock]

Basically this is a thread for us all to keep track of everything Keir Starmer has done wrong (he has quite a few things already tbh) since he has been PM.

I'll leave his most unpopular policy for someone else to say.

I want to nominate the age verification policy that he has enforced on a fair few sites and pages (and yes I will include the Porn ones in this) as parental locks are a thing at the end of the day.

We don't need Spotify or Wikipedia to also have age verifications either, because it starts to feel like it's not about protecting children at that point does it?:think:

That's my pick from Starmer's woeful reign as PM.

[Kate!]

What has he done wrong? Well..... would be quicker to say what's he done right. The answer is nothing. Utter scumbucket.

[Mystic Mock]

What has he done wrong? Well..... would be quicker to say what's he done right. The answer is nothing. Utter scumbucket.

:joker:

[bots]

are you going to create frolic, dread, and malice threads too? :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

are you going to create frolic, dread, and malice threads too? :laugh:

I hope not.:joker:

[joeysteele]

I was going to bypass these type of threads however since Mock made it, I will add my bit.

I cannot stand Starmer, I'd welcome just about anyone other than him as leader, although I could say that about every other Party too.
However whoever won the election with the horrendous legacy of the last lot, even had they won, there was going to be wrongs and failings just in even trying to sort out the shambolic mess of the previous 10 years at least.
It is a horrendous mess.

Which meant though more correct, appropriate and more compassionate policymaking was more vital to have to be enacted.

There's 3 wrongs for me mainly that he's done.
One not yet done, so I'll hold fire a little there.

1, the winter fuel payment.
That was despicable and should never have been thought of let alone done.
Although corrected now the stress of last year to pensioners cannot be changed.

2. This isn't done yet but it's NOT ruled out.
The making the points more to claim disability benefits, IF this government does that it will be an absolute disgrace.

3, for me, this one is really annoying me, and it is his backside crawling to Trump and even in part to this vile Reform lot under Farage,.
Starmer frankly on the domestic front has failed a lot in this first year.
Apart from his crawling to Trump, internationally he does seem to have built a good rapport with other Countries.
However he needs to find a backbone and call out Trump on several worrying international issues.

Unfortunately Starmer is there now until the next election.
Which ONLY he can call.
It's rare that Labour dispose of leaders in government and even in opposition too.
Unless he really starts to listen though, the list of failings from me as to him will rise more.

I'm not bothered about the Farmers though, they SHOULD be paying inheritance tax, they should never have been exempt from it in my view.
While anyone else eligible for it has to pay it.

[Mystic Mock]

I was going to bypass these type of threads however since Mock made it, I will add my bit.

I cannot stand Starmer, I'd welcome just about anyone other than him as leader, although I could say that about every other Party too.
However whoever won the election with the horrendous legacy of the last lot, even had they won, there was going to be wrongs and failings just in even trying to sort out the shambolic mess of the previous 10 years at least.
It is a horrendous mess.

Which meant though more correct, appropriate and more compassionate policymaking was more vital to have to be enacted.

There's 3 wrongs for me mainly that he's done.
One not yet done, so I'll hold fire a little there.

1, the winter fuel payment.
That was despicable and should never have been thought of let alone done.
Although corrected now the stress of last year to pensioners cannot be changed.

2. This isn't done yet but it's NOT ruled out.
The making the points more to claim disability benefits, IF this government does that it will be an absolute disgrace.

3, for me, this one is really annoying me, and it is his backside crawling to Trump and even in part to this vile Reform lot under Farage,.
Starmer frankly on the domestic front has failed a lot in this first year.
Apart from his crawling to Trump, internationally he does seem to have built a good rapport with other Countries.
However he needs to find a backbone and call out Trump on several worrying international issues.

Unfortunately Starmer is there now until the next election.
Which ONLY he can call.
It's rare that Labour dispose of leaders in government and even in opposition too.
Unless he really starts to listen though, the list of failings from me as to him will rise more.

I'm not bothered about the Farmers though, they SHOULD be paying inheritance tax, they should never have been exempt from it in my view.
While anyone else eligible for it has to pay it.

That's a good post imo, a very fair post.

I largely do agree with you that he had an uphill battle in his first year to deal with, due to what the Tories had done prior.

I also support Labour backing him, as this country will never find it's footing if we keep having our Government kicking the leader out of the leadership position.

I really do think that he needs to calm down on his weird controlling behaviour over the Internet though, and reverse the age verification policy.

[Cherie]

Starmer is too wooden and unlikeable, I think he would make a great Foreign Secretary as he is a pretty good diplomat, poor leader though he is just not strong enough

[bots]

The cabinet is busy feathering their own individual nests and that includes Starmer. They care more about that than the people they are supposed to represent.

Immigration is at a tipping point. The government needs to act fast to resolve it. If not, i could see a situation where this government is kicked out before completion of it's term

[joeysteele]

The cabinet is busy feathering their own individual nests and that includes Starmer. They care more about that than the people they are supposed to represent.

Immigration is at a tipping point. The government needs to act fast to resolve it. If not, i could see a situation where this government is kicked out before completion of it's term

I do agree with your last point except I don't see any possible election earlier than perhaps 2028.
Had the overall majority been more about 30/40 then possibly.
Not one of over 150 still at least though that Starmer has.
There's no way Labour MPs would vote for an election and any vote of confidence from the Conservatives would be massively beaten.

He's got still 4 years, ( that's virtually a full term still of government), and he and his government I agree have to act on the immigration issue and hopefully with other Parties, get a more reasoned rhetoric about it and not the more like hate preaching scapegoating of Farage's Reform mob.

That's another issue too though, because other than perhaps the conservatives sadly under Badenoch.
There's NO other Party currently in parliament who would want to risk a Farage led Reform extreme government, so I can't see any votes forthcoming for another election myself.

[bots]

I do agree with your last point except I don't see any possible election earlier than perhaps 2028.
Had the overall majority been more about 30/40 then possibly.
Not one of over 150 still at least though that Starmer has.
There's no way Labour MPs would vote for an election and any vote of confidence from the Conservatives would be massively beaten.

He's got still 4 years, ( that's virtually a full term still of government), and he and his government I agree have to act on the immigration issue and hopefully with other Parties, get a more reasoned rhetoric about it and not the more like hate preaching scapegoating of Farage's Reform mob.

That's another issue too though, because other than perhaps the conservatives sadly under Badenoch.
There's NO other Party currently in parliament who would want to risk a Farage led Reform extreme government, so I can't see any votes forthcoming for another election myself.

rioting in the streets is a very real possibility over immigration. When taxes are raised in the autumn, and benefits are cut there are going to be a lot of angry people. Those conditions can force an election

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[joeysteele]

rioting in the streets is a very real possibility over immigration. When taxes are raised in the autumn, and benefits are cut there are going to be a lot of angry people. Those conditions can force an election

It's not how our democracy works though.
The Thatcher government had virtually a war with the mining communities, her poll tax period too was crippling and caused massive hardship and deep worry for families.

With rioting, which like last years should be termed serious crimes, no way should criminal dissent or riots bring down the the democratic process.
ANY government giving in to that would be setting a frightening and extremely dangerous precedent for the future of governance by any Parties in the UK.

I can't see that happening myself.
We're still not and never should be a Nation where the more extreme try to bring about mob rule.

[Zizu]

rioting in the streets is a very real possibility over immigration. When taxes are raised in the autumn, and benefits are cut there are going to be a lot of angry people. Those conditions can force an election


We are basically a powder keg just waiting for the right fuse to be lit anyway … far too many people ( of different persuasions) crammed together on a tiny little island


When all the immigrants and religious extremists join together we are all fcuked


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[Beso]

Catchy tune


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[Cherie]

Catchy tune


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[Cherie]

On Saturday, the PM proudly declared that Labour's £3 bus fare cap had already "cut costs for families".

Trouble is, the cap was £2 under the Conservatives. Labour raised it to £3 on 1 January this year. If that's a cut, my name's Pythagorus. As even Diane Abbott could tell you, it's a 50% increase.

Starmer didn't blurt this out under pressure. It was in a tweet. That half the Labour Party's communications team must have seen and approved.

Only in Labour's parallel universe can a 50% price rise be spun as a cut.

Either Starmer can't do simple maths or he's a serial liar. Something doesn't add up here, but then nothing does with this Labour government.

:umm2:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/15/15/102153787-0-image-m-5_1757946103458.jpg



[Top Starmer aide quits over X-rated
Diane Abbott messages:

No10 director of strategy
Paul Ovenden out in latest scandal to hit Labour]




[A Labour source said:
'Paul Ovenden was the best brain in the
Labour Party and the role he played in the
landslide election was immeasurable.'

Mr Ovenden told ITV News he had been
involved in 'a silly conversation'
eight years ago.
'Before summer, I had announced to some
of my colleagues my intention to
leave government,' he said.
'Though the messages long pre-date my
current employment and relationship
with the Prime Minister, I've brought
forward my resignation to avoid distracting
from the vital work this government
is doing to positively change people's lives.

'As an advisor, my duty is to protect the
reputation of the Prime Minister
and his government.']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15100165/Top-Starmer-aide-Paul-Ovenden-quits-X-rated-Diane-Abbott-messages.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

1 September - Sir Keir Starmer attempts to get on the front foot as MPs return from their summer break. The PM carries out a shake-up of his No10 team and drafts in Darren Jones as his chief fixer in the newly-created role of Chief Secretary to the PM. No10 says Sir Keir is moving to 'Phase Two' of his Labour Government.

3 September - The PM's 'reset' is almost immediately derailed by Angela Rayner's tearful admission she didn't pay enough tax when buying her new £800,000 flat in Hove, East Sussex.

5 September - Ms Rayner resigns as Deputy PM, Housing Secretary and deputy Labour leader after a probe found she had breached the ministerial code. Sir Keir is forced into a widespread reshuffle of his ministerial ranks.

9 September - Democratic politicians in the US release a 238-page scrapbook given to Jeffrey Epstein as 50th birthday present. It reveals how Lord Mandelson, the UK ambassador to the US, described the notorious paedophile as 'my best pal' in a handwritten note.

10 September - Lord Mandelson uses a newspaper interview to admit more 'embarrassing' revelations about his relationship with Epstein are likely to come. But Sir Keir expresses his 'confidence' in Lord Mandelson at PMQs later in the day.

11 September - Lord Mandelson is sacked by Sir Keir. No10 says the publication of fresh emails from Lord Mandelson to Epstein showed their relationship was 'materially different' from that known at the time of his appointment.

15 September - Paul Ovenden resigns as Sir Keir's director of strategy after sexually explicit messages about senior MP Diane Abbott emerged.

[Livia]

Oh, this is a thread that will run and run and run... Right up till he's finished completely.

[Liam-]

He really does only surround himself with the best sycophants doesn’t he

[Beso]

Dictating the punishmemts for last year's riots was despicable.

[Beso]

It's not sounding good for him in the Mandelson debate live in the commons.

[arista]

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[bots]

Sir Keir Starmer is expected to announce the UK's recognition of a Palestinian state in a statement on Sunday afternoon.

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This will open the door to us taking thousands of gaza refugees ..... via international law. I can't think of a more crazy decision

[Cherie]

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:hee:

[Cherie]

Sir Keir Starmer is expected to announce the UK's recognition of a Palestinian state in a statement on Sunday afternoon.

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This will open the door to us taking thousands of gaza refugees ..... via international law. I can't think of a more crazy decision

:joker:

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

Rachel Reeves looks exactly like Richard III.

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gy81gjwXcAEzkHL?format=jpg&name=small

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

He really does only surround himself with the best sycophants doesn’t he

It seems so.:laugh:

[emseateng2014]

most of the left wingers reaction :cheer2: :dance:

most of the right wingers reaction :fist: :rant:

Sir Keir Starmer is expected to announce the UK's recognition of a Palestinian state in a statement on Sunday afternoon.

-------------------------

This will open the door to us taking thousands of gaza refugees ..... via international law. I can't think of a more crazy decision

[Zizu]

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[Beso]

This lady.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ingMNe2lSuw?si=FrIkyrVEu_5XAixc

[Mystic Mock]

most of the left wingers reaction :cheer2: :dance:

most of the right wingers reaction :fist: :rant:

You're not wrong.:laugh:

[Maru]

I would imagine the woes belong to the public and not to Starmer. He will be able to retire very comfortably whatever happens, I'm sure.

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

I would imagine the woes belong to the public and not to Starmer. He will be able to retire very comfortably whatever happens, I'm sure.

Fair point.

[Oliver_W]

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All this whining about Farage just makes them look pathetic and scared. Present a better vision for the country than what he's proposing, without even mentioning him.

[bots]

All this whining about Farage just makes them look pathetic and scared. Present a better vision for the country than what he's proposing, without even mentioning him.

the tories dealt with ukip for a long time by basically taking popular ideas from them and making them their own. It's the only way to successfully combat the threat. To me, Starmer is starting to look like Sunak in that he just buries his head in the sand and doesnt listen to what the public are telling him

[Livia]

Petition against Starmer's ID cards now almost 2.2 million.

[bots]

Petition against Starmer's ID cards now almost 2.2 million.

i wonder what figure has to be reached before Starmer does a U turn. 2.2million pissed off voters isn't going to generate any wins at the next election

[Livia]

i wonder what figure has to be reached before Starmer does a U turn. 2.2million pissed off voters isn't going to generate any wins at the next election

It's gone up by a million since this time on Friday. People are not 'aving it.

[emseateng2014]

and the crazy thing in my opinion its not just the 1 race that is supporting palastine it is the all different kinds of cultures and races that are supporting them

which still does have me wonder if all the right wingers from around the world want the supporters who are different races and cultures kicked out there own countrys does that mean all those supporters of palastine are what gonna somewhat convert into palastian like its nuts

You're not wrong.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

All this whining about Farage just makes them look pathetic and scared. Present a better vision for the country than what he's proposing, without even mentioning him.

Exactly!

Don't get me wrong, I do agree with Starmer on Farage.

But if he wants to beat Farage at the next Election he'll need to give the public what they want over these three key issues.

1. Scrap the Digital ID's.

2. Scrap the Age Verification nonsense. Especially for Spotify and Wikipedia.

3. Sort out the Migrant crisis properly, instead of keeping them all in Hotels like they're becoming apart of his Pokedex.

[Mystic Mock]

and the crazy thing in my opinion its not just the 1 race that is supporting palastine it is the all different kinds of cultures and races that are supporting them

which still does have me wonder if all the right wingers from around the world want the supporters who are different races and cultures kicked out there own countrys does that mean all those supporters of palastine are what gonna somewhat convert into palastian like its nuts

The political climate is nuts right now.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

i wonder what figure has to be reached before Starmer does a U turn. 2.2million pissed off voters isn't going to generate any wins at the next election

If he is smart he'll scrap the idea.

[Ray.]

2. Scrap the Age Verification nonsense. Especially for Spotify and Wikipedia.


I agree. 'tis no business of the government how I get my freak on. :suspect:

[emseateng2014]

so nuts that we will never know what will happen next on earth 1

The political climate is nuts right now.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I agree. 'tis no business of the government how I get my freak on. :suspect:

Exactly.:laugh:

[Zizu]

WTF
Sky Sports reporting that this guy who’d just landed a very important and lucrative position in government .. paid a substantial donation to Kier Starmer !!


Anyone know more about this story ?
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