The all encompassing WTF thread !

[Zizu]

What the actual fcuk !

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[arista]

Yes was on Ch4HDnews
He was dressed as a woman

[Zizu]

Yes was on Ch4HDnews
He was dressed as a woman


Yeah as soon as I saw him I thought he’d make a good looking woman !!

( NOT )


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[Zizu]

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Three more foreigners found guilty of horrific crimes against a poor , innocent 12 year old girl !!


Shame they can’t just deport them !!!
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Lengthy prison sentences have been given to three sexual predators who repeatedly raped a 12-year-old girl after she was lured into a car in Dover.

Kevin Horvath and Ivan Turtak approached their victim in a supermarket car park on Sunday 11 August 2024 before driving her to various locations and subjecting her to horrific abuse for several days along with a third offender, Ernest Gunar.

All were convicted of multiple child sex offences including rape following a trial earlier this year and were sentenced at Canterbury Crown Court on Friday 12 September 2025.

Horvath, 26, of King Street, Dover, and Turtak, 38, of George Street, were both jailed for 17 years whilst Gunar, 27, of Sidney Street, Folkestone, was sentenced to 19 years.

All three men, who are Slovakian nationals, will also serve an additional three years on licence under the terms of extended sentences.

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[Mystic Mock]

I despise sex offenders.

[Zizu]

I despise sex offenders.


Same … plus child abusers obviously

That poor innocent girl has had her life ruined forever .. so dreadfully sad
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[Mystic Mock]

Same … plus child abusers obviously

That poor innocent girl has had her life ruined forever .. so dreadfully sad
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It's truly awful, Zizu.

[Zizu]

Sam Smith

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[Zizu]

This is the same woman , apparently though I have my doubts !!

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[Zizu]

I loved Juno !!

Now the cute female actress is a bloke !

They even changed the cast list from Ellen Page to Elliot Page !!!


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[Zizu]

Is this true ?

If so , is it common knowledge ???

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[Cherie]

Sam Smith

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He was so handsome,now he is just bloated

[Zizu]

He was so handsome,now he is just bloated


Yeah


Hardly an improvement … imho


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[Zizu]

WTF
Sky Sports reporting that this guy who’d just landed a very important and lucrative position in government .. paid a substantial donation to Kier Starmer !!


Anyone know more about this story ?
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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Why just why !!!!!!!

Christmas movies in early October !!!!!

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Anyone know why the main GovUK website relies on AWS ( Amazon Web Services) ??

Why aren’t they using a British supplier ?

[Zizu]

Apparently if Burnley beat Wolves at the weekend they will go 8 points clear of them !

[Zizu]

Sunderland have more points than all of last year’s promoted teams at this point

[Zizu]

An amateur golfer created history recently by hitting TWO holes in one in one round of golf !!

Defying odds of 67 million to 1 !!!


He’d never hit any holes in one in his 30 years of playing !!

[Zizu]

This is a real photo not Ai


I took a screen shot off an official video



Taylor Swift ( who is tall ) duetting with Sabrina Carpenter on massive high heels…( who isn’t tall)

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[Zizu]

Cheeky madam !!

Last week at the F1 meeting

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Change of clothes for some reason
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[Zizu]

This is apparently the photo used on her media accounts

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[Zizu]

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[Mystic Mock]

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How awful for him.

Still send him back though.

[Redway]

Up to you how you want to post, Zizu, but what’s with your spaced out double-exclamation-marks? There a particular reason for that?

[Zizu]

Up to you how you want to post, Zizu, but what’s with your spaced out double-exclamation-marks? There a particular reason for that?


Just added/ extra drama !!!!!!



I think it’s just a habit at this point

I’ll try not to do it if it annoys you in any way

[Redway]

Just added/ extra drama !!!!!!



I think it’s just a habit at this point

I’ll try not to do it if it annoys you in any way

You don’t have to give it up for anyone, and it’s not like I particularly mind. I was just curious.

[Mystic Mock]

I hope that this guy takes everyone involved in his fine to the cleaners, especially the judge for entertaining the idea.:umm2:

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[Zizu]

Gloucester v Saracens ( men’s) Rugby ..

Such a shame there aren’t any ex players to fill the role of expert pundit for the game


Nice of her to explain the nuances of the scrimmage/ scrum

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[Livia]

Sigh.......

[Zizu]

Sigh.......


We now have women pundits /commentators on men’s rugby /football and ONLY women pundits /commentatorson women’s rugby

What happened to equality ??


To rub salt in our wounds the women haven’t played at anywhere close to the level of the players they are criticising/ critiquing !!

[Redway]

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to let this toxic obsession go.

[Zizu]

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to stop it now.


I absolutely love women … including women in the workplace … I just don’t appreciate having them pushed down our throats in some crazy box ticking exercise .. you talk like I am alone in this opinion but a quick look online or in any pub or bar will show you a different picture entirely ..



The female pundits play football at an extremely low standard and as such they are simply not qualified to criticise or critique the elite level premiership footballers.


Imagine the next Nasa rocket launch and the expert was a high school science teacher .. that’s where we are at …



Some people in here make far more outlandish statements and without explanation

[Livia]

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to let this toxic obsession go.

He has no time for women unless he finds them attractive, that's my take. Being autistic isn't an acceptable excuse for being racist it shouldn't be an acceptable excuse for misogyny.

[Redway]

He has no time for women unless he finds them attractive, that's my take. Being autistic isn't an acceptable excuse for being racist it shouldn't be an acceptable excuse for misogyny.

Agreed. But do the moderators actually do anything about his misogyny, by-and-large? Nope. So he gets away with it every day because he’s “vulnerable” and can’t help but talk sideways about women he doesn’t find sexy.

He made some very culturally dismissive comments re. people who may or may not look white but are actually some degree of mixed on another thread and kept putting up a wall of “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about” even when he was offered the option of taking accountability privately rather than on the public forum. If I was bordering on anti-Semitic just-because me and you had gotten into a bit of a tiff, I’d want to know about it. Not knowing the full cultural weight in a way that could be stonewalled as “Not a clue what you’re talking about, sorry” would be all-the-more-reason to be called out, privately or otherwise, and get myself a bit more respectfully educated on your experiences. Being made excuses for would enable me more than it would actually help. But I’m afraid Zizu doesn’t do accountability online, privately or publicly. We all have to work with assumptions, and sometimes those assumptions can be overwhelmingly culturally monolithic to what we can extrapolate to indigenous Greater Manchester, but we don’t always know who we’re talking to, the range of their cultural layers and experiences (which may diverge quite sharply from our own), and that goes for the whitest of the white as well as Israeli-descended Jews, mixed race people of an order of quarters, eighths and thirds (it’s not always 50-50) from a city that has countless intergenerational seeds of mixture thanks to docks, captains and (on a more unsavoury note) their role in slavery, Chinese, black and Hispanic people alike.

He either doesn’t “have a clue what you’re talking about,” as-if that’s an excuse for wilful ignorance, or his autism is of such a nature that he has zero control over his actions on here. Never do you see Zizu say, ‘Maybe I was genuinely wrong/insensitive/overstepping delicate ground.’ He might not be the only person with such views on female pundits but the way he talks you’d think he was the only neurodivergent person on this planet. Millions, if not billions, of people on this planet are neurodivergent but they still respect the opposite sex.

I thought I could at-least try and be done with all-this but I just had to echo back your frustration here, because it’s real, valid and his behaviour unacceptable. He has capacity, and a choice. He just chooses not to own a word he says. Offering someone the chance to be corrected privately and being refused is also a huge tell. That undercuts any claim of good-faith innocence masked as oblivious, vulnerably-coded ignorance. More to the point of this thread, he’s not someone without decades of exposure to women as professionals, commentators and equals. He just believes they shouldn’t exist unless he finds them sexy. The fixation is a choice, no-matter how much validation you might get via PM or the women in your life who don’t see this side to you. You know what you’re doing, and people have the right to call it out. That doesn’t make them outlandish. It just means you need to grow up. It’s easy to lower our moral stakes online thanks to anonymity (for better or worse) but that’s an abuse of integrity and respect for women’s bodies and autonomy, and that’s something you need to own. Any negative reactions you get you bring 99% of on yourself. That doesn’t mean you have enemies. Just do us all a favour and grow up.

[Redway]

I absolutely love women … including women in the workplace … I just don’t appreciate having them pushed down our throats in some crazy box ticking exercise .. you talk like I am alone in this opinion but a quick look online or in any pub or bar will show you a different picture entirely ..



The female pundits play football at an extremely low standard and as such they are simply not qualified to criticise or critique the elite level premiership footballers.


Imagine the next Nasa rocket launch and the expert was a high school science teacher .. that’s where we are at …



Some people in here make far more outlandish statements and without explanation
But we’re not talking about random geezers in the pub. We’re talking about you. It’s an obsession that you shoehorn into the most random of threads and have done for as long as I can remember, and you seem unusually wound up by women’s football for someone who doesn’t have to watch it. You talk as-if you have no choice but to be subjugated to the “extremely low standard” of women’s football and have to complain about it every day. But you don’t. You could always just watch something-else. It’s like you’re on the hunt for sexy women you can add to your wank-bank in women’s football and if what you see isn’t to your liking, that’s a fault of the game as a whole. That’s twisted.

[Mystic Mock]

Gloucester v Saracens ( men’s) Rugby ..

Such a shame there aren’t any ex players to fill the role of expert pundit for the game


Nice of her to explain the nuances of the scrimmage/ scrum

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Did you see the host for the Chelsea vs Aston Villa match?

She nearly made me forget that Villa had tragically won the game.:joker:

[Zizu]

But we’re not talking about random geezers in the pub. We’re talking about you. It’s an obsession that you shoehorn into the most random of threads and have done for as long as I can remember, and you seem unusually wound up by women’s football for someone who doesn’t have to watch it. You talk as-if you have no choice but to be subjugated to the “extremely low standard” of women’s football and have to complain about it every day.


Did you even read my explanation ?

I don’t give a flying fcuk about women’s football ..

I rarely take any interest unless I see another women’s international team has been beaten by a team of under 16 boys

[Redway]

Did you even read my explanation ?

I don’t give a flying fcuk about women’s football ..

I rarely take any interest unless I see another women’s international team has been beaten by a team of under 16 boys

So why fixatedly moan about it every day? You inject this grievance everywhere, repeatedly and unprompted an awful-lot for someone who truly doesn’t care. People who truly don’t care about something don’t usually talk about it every day, whatever it is. Grow up, man. You’re nearly 70.

Most male pundits have never played elite football, either, for what it’s worth. You know that, right?

Ugh. If-only you could change.

[Livia]

So why fixatedly moan about it every day? You injects this grievance everywhere, repeatedly and unprompted an awful-lot for someone who truly doesn’t care. People who truly don’t care about something don’t usually talk about it every day, whatever it is. Grow up, man. You’re nearly 70.

Most male pundits have never played elite football, either, for what it’s worth. You know that, right?

Ugh. If-only you could change.

You're wasting your time, I fear. Most men I know who are real football fans watch and appreciate the women's game. Zizu's opinion belongs back in the fifties. And yeah, Mark Chapman never played and he's a great pundit.

[Zizu]

Most men I know who are real football fans watch and appreciate the women's game..


Has to be the most outlandish statement of 2025

[Redway]

Has to be the most outlandish statement of 2025

It’s Livia’s experience. Just-because you disagree with those men doesn’t make it outlandish. Other people’s experiences, like I said in a separate example (including you being dismissive without understanding or wanting to understand, yet-again, and getting away with it, yet-again) in this thread, don’t have to match your narrow range to be valid.

[Livia]

It’s Livia’s experience. Just-because you disagree with those men doesn’t make it outlandish. Other people’s experiences, like I said in a separate example (including you being dismissive without understanding or wanting to understand, yet-again, and getting away with it, yet-again) in this thread, don’t have to match your narrow range to be valid.

I am delighted to say that the men in my life aren't anything like Zizu. They are all football fans, even my husband who's American and has become an honorary West Ham fan. Doesn't stop them supporting the women's game. I'm sure they're the norm.

[Redway]

I am delighted to say that the men in my life aren't anything like Zizu. They are all football fans, even my husband who's American and has become an honorary West Ham fan. Doesn't stop them supporting the women's game. I'm sure they're the norm.

There’s a lot of support in pubs for women’s football in Liverpool as-well, Liv., probably the most football-crazy city in the world. Zizu, as-usual, is just off on his own obsessional tangents that he can’t stop shoehorning into threads where they don’t belong. Notice his silence about everything-else on this thread, too. “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, are you vaping something?!” is not an acceptable response. It never was. Nor is any other shade of amanthia (wilful ignorance).

I’ve tried to overlook some of these things with Zizu because I can respect his general curiosity and that he’s a person not inherently less deserving of humanity than anyone-else - and, yes, I’ve admittedly hounded and hounded and bullied, him in the not-too-distant past (which I’d feel worse about if he didn’t make it so easy to dislike him that much) - but half of his posts are incredibly toxic, misogynistic BS, and that shouldn’t be overlooked any more than my insults towards him (which isn’t even what we’re doing here, just spitting facts). And he just gets away with it in a way that he wouldn’t if it was racism, and even there he’s come close on at-least one or two occasions. Liking Stevie Wonder, black footballers and pretty mixed-race girls doesn’t mean that you can’t occasionally make comments below the line. No-one’s perfect. We all have things to learn. But Zizu doesn’t want to, because that would mean admitting that he’s not always the victim in his own narrative. We all like to be the good guy in our own books but we’re all capable of misjudging things and people, underestimating their experiences and causing offence, intentionally or not. What matters more is how we react when we’re (rightly) called out. It’s just common decency to account for them when they’re called out sincerely and not let pettiness get in the way. But, again, Zizu doesn’t do accountability in the virtual realm. He’s “innocent” and “vulnerable” no-matter what, and the rest of us have to just sit here and take it. And it’s just so extremely irritating. The same rubbish on a loop every day.

I’ve very-nearly lost friends over this issue with you, Z., and I hate that genuinely good people who I value and love a lot have got caught up in this mess but there’s just a certain kind of integrity in challenging you on your toxicity, even if I do push it to extreme limits sometimes, that matters just as much to me. I could’ve just walked away but to me that would be like letting your narrative win at this particular point in time. And I can’t signal that. Fair treatment, representation and acknowledgement across various lines (including cultural) just mean too much to me. If that means losing a few friends, that’s genuinely really sucky and I hate having to leverage with that, because these are genuine friends full of so much good, but for better or worse I can just-about sacrifice that to do my bit in setting your narrative straight, even if you never fundamentally change and let the way you think your ASD affects you rule your life and agency, which is an abuse of the ‘label’. I really hope you realise that one day, because you’ve cost me a lot. You’ve made yourself front-and-centre in my eyes for all the wrong reasons, whether you intended that or not. Your behaviour is ignorant, disgusting and pervy at the best of times and other people have to feel the consequences. The attack to integrity, the relations ruptures. Your words don’t just affect you, but you choose not to see that. That’s one of the reasons why I really don’t think TiBB is the place for you, even-still, but that decision is yours to make. But you’ve got nothing to prove to me by sticking around if every other post is gonna be an attack on Camilla and (and I say this as a dude) women-pundits you don’t find sexy. And you wonder why people often find you a very, very irritating bloke. We’re never going to be good at this point, Zizu, until you do the needful and be accountable for-once, and apologise. You have no excuse not to be. You are not an incapable child. You’re a pensioner who should know better. You should’ve known better 30 years ago. This isn’t about you being quirky or misunderstood. Other people are paying the cost for you refusing to grow up. You can call me heartless all you like but you’re the one who puts yourself in the firing line. If you can’t take it back, don’t dish it out in the first place.

[Redway]

How awful for him.

Still send him back though.

There’s really no defence for rapists, is there?

[Zizu]

It’s Livia’s experience. Just-because you disagree with those men doesn’t make it outlandish. Other people’s experiences, like I said in a separate example (including you being dismissive without understanding or wanting to understand, yet-again, and getting away with it, yet-again) in this thread, don’t have to match your narrow range to be valid.


Maybe I live in the real world …

The only guys who say they love women’s football are probably being totally insincere in an attempt to curry favour with some lady friends or to avoid being attacked ( verbally) by said women .


I guarantee 99% of guys have never heard of that woman who came second ..

It’s widely accepted that Ian Wright only supports women’s football because his granddaughter is a Chelsea academy player with s big future plus he’s paid an absolute fortune to sell his soul .

[Zizu]

But we’re not talking about random geezers in the pub. We’re talking about you. It’s an obsession that you shoehorn into the most random of threads and have done for as long as I can remember, and you seem unusually wound up by women’s football for someone who doesn’t have to watch it. You talk as-if you have no choice but to be subjugated to the “extremely low standard” of women’s football and have to complain about it every day. But you don’t. You could always just watch something-else. It’s like you’re on the hunt for sexy women you can add to your wank-bank in women’s football and if what you see isn’t to your liking, that’s a fault of the game as a whole. That’s twisted.


… and I gave a perfectly reasonable and acceptable explanation for my views ( as usual)


Most in here slag someone off WITHOUT explanation

[Redway]

Back on ignore-list you go, whatever you’re saying. Keep playing perpetual hapless victim, like you always do. When someone’s not willing to grow and chooses to bask in ignorance instead, that says more about them than anyone-else.

Thanks, Livia, for keeping me sane throughout this. As-usual, Zizu shows no accountability for anything.

[Zizu]

Who would imagine that different people from different walks of life and different generations would have differing opinions and views



Fcuking mind blowing or what !!!

[Zizu]

Poor John Hunt and his daughter were discussing violence against females on a BBC program - his wife and two other daughters were slaughtered in their home then Camilla takes the limelight to talk about the time she was apparently attacked on a train when she was a teenager … she couldn’t remember if it was a boy or a man but when her mum met her she noticed her hair was ruffled and she’d lost a button ..


You couldn’t make it up ..


Sounds like another PR stunt

[Redway]

Don’t extend me an olive-branch in the future unless it’s accountable onto yourself. That branch is as good as witchcraft fashioned against anyone with integrity that won’t be backed into a corner, and on that note I do see that witchcraft in you with every ignorant, toxic post you make, which borders on evil at this point. You’re a naughty, stubborn, petulant boy.

Until then, there’s no point wondering why I find it hard to take to you for any more than 2 minutes in the tiniest of doses. I hope 2026 is the year you grow up and finally start acting half your age, and change. Bye.

[Zizu]

Don’t extend me an olive-branch in the future unless it’s accountable onto yourself. Until then, there’s no point wondering why I find it hard to take to you for any more than 2 minutes in the tiniest of doses. I hope 2026 is the year you grow up and finally start acting half your age, and change. Bye.


I refer to my previous post #54

[Mystic Mock]

There’s really no defence for rapists, is there?

There really isn't imo.

[Redway]

There really isn't imo.

I hope he rots.

[Zizu]

Soooo

I had my first Cadbury’s Cream Egg of the year last night and it was HORRIBLE !!

The chocolate tasted vile and even the soft centre wasn’t nice ..


WTF !!!

I bought two boxes of 5 and now I have to give them away .. why change the perfect taste !?

[Zizu]

Remember Taylor Dayne the singer from 40 years ago

One hit wonder - Tell It To My Heart ?




She apparently sold 75 MILLION albums !!!

[Dogeatdog]

Soooo

I had my first Cadbury’s Cream Egg of the year last night and it was HORRIBLE !!

The chocolate tasted vile and even the soft centre wasn’t nice ..


WTF !!!

I bought two boxes of 5 and now I have to give them away .. why change the perfect taste !?

Cadburys chocolate went downhill when it was bought by Mondelez. It’s just cheap chocolate now and tastes horrible, there’s much better alternatives out there.

[Zizu]

Cadburys chocolate went downhill when it was bought by Mondelez. It’s just cheap chocolate now and tastes horrible, there’s much better alternatives out there.


100% agree !!

Many youngsters don’t agree but they mustn’t have had Cadbury’s when it was scrumptious !!

[Mystic Mock]

This Advert.:umm2:

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Especially the 0:13-0:15 seconds of the video.

[Ray.]

This Advert.:umm2:

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Especially the 0:13-0:15 seconds of the video.

Covonia adverts sure have come a long way since I was a kid, when it just had a cartoon red bull. The jingle lives rent free in my head.

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Your advert reminds me of that book Bear by Marian Engel, where the protagonist enters into a sexual relationship with, you guessed it, a bear!

[Mystic Mock]

Covonia adverts sure have come a long way since I was a kid, when it just had a cartoon red bull. The jingle lives rent free in my head.

kbKTocHMhb8

Your advert reminds me of that book Bear by Marian Engel, where the protagonist enters into a sexual relationship with, you guessed it, a bear!

Why would anyone want to write that?:joker:

[bots]

that's an image i'm not going to get out of my head any time soon :fist:

[Zizu]

Wtf

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