Charlie Kirk assassinated at university event

[Crimson Dynamo]

Holy f-uck

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[Crimson Dynamo]

during taking questions on a college campus

its on X

so sad and shocking

[bots]

i would never stop people from voicing their opinions or suggest that they be shot, but America is a dangerous place for individuals with strong political views

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would never stop people from voicing their opinions or sggest that they be shot, but America is a dangerous place for individuals with strong political views

what type of political views?

[bots]

what type of political views?

don't come the innocent

[Crimson Dynamo]

don't come the innocent

what on Gods earth are you on about?

I mean it seems like the guns are out for one side and not the other

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0ghnA7WQAAMYNq?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trans and far-left extremists on
bluesky
are celebrating the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

He had been discussing the trans mass shootings in the U.S.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0gkBIUX0AAd4gE?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1965860845025661184

[Crimson Dynamo]

JD Vance @JDVance
Dear God, protect Charlie in his darkest hour.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0ghCtzXQAAag80?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

Awful man, with awful backwards views, including gun control.

The video being shared around X is extremely distasteful. I don’t like the man but there’s no need.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0gl7wAWEAA9fW2?format=jpg&name=small

[MTVN]

The increasing glorification of violence on the left is getting scary. A lot of it seems to be driven by the terminally online and their need to show how edgy they are

[Crimson Dynamo]

Graham Linehan 🎗️ @Glinner
·

They couldn't beat him in debate, so they shot him.

[Glenn.]

I’ve watched him on multiple occasions be beaten in a debate :skull:

[GiRTh]

****in hell. I think the guys an idiot but to shoot him. Jeez

There a vid on twitter. It does not look good. Direct shot to the neck. blood immediately pouring it.

Thought not to post it

[Glenn.]

****in hell. I think the guys an idiot but to shoot him. Jeez

There a vid on twitter. It does not look good. Direct shot to the neck. blood immediately pouring it.

Thought not to post it


Yeah I see that too. Not very nice at all. Shouldn’t be online

[Beso]

****in hell. I think the guys an idiot but to shoot him. Jeez

There a vid on twitter. It does not look good. Direct shot to the neck. blood immediately pouring it.

Thought not to post it



I thought the same regarding Iryna Zarutska

[Crimson Dynamo]

MSNBC commentator makes shocking statement after Charlie Kirk was shot on an Utah campus.

“We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration.” :skull:

the perp being arrested is on X

Looks like a 60 year old white bald man

[Swan]

I’ve watched him on multiple occasions be beaten in a debate :skull:

Beaten in political debate = Death? Love winning here alright, jeez

[Swan]

MSNBC commentator makes shocking statement after Charlie Kirk was shot on an Utah campus.

“We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration.” :skull:

the perp being arrested is on X

Looks like a 60 year old white bald man

FFS

[Glenn.]

Beaten in political debate = Death? Love winning here alright, jeez


What?

[Glenn.]

“You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It’s drivel. But I am—I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.” -Charlie Kirk

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tim Pool
Timcast
·
18m
Source tells me Charlie is stable.

Please god

:fc:

[Swan]

What?

It's a human being, he's not evil, he has a right wing political view, and you're saying how you've seen him beaten in debates, what does that matter right now, he's dying.

Somebody told me once you had a good heart, as much as i like that person, they are wrong.

Opposition is fair, it's democracy, it's why migrants risk their lives sailing to the western world. We fight for freedom of speech, something they don't have.

Charile Kirk, fine, a bit trolly, exercised freedom of speech, something that wasn't hateful, and something he had every right to do.

You are just so hateful, and you have the audacity to spout "love wins"

[Crimson Dynamo]

there is a close-up video. he gets shot and blood erupts from his neck like a full on outdoor tap

looks like main artery is severed

if they got compression immediately ok, if not

[arista]

Shot in his neck

[Glenn.]

It's a human being, he's not evil, he has a right wing political view, and you're saying how you've seen him beaten in debates, what does that matter right now, he's dying.

Somebody told me once you had a good heart, as much as i like that person, they are wrong.

Opposition is fair, it's democracy, it's why migrants risk their lives sailing to the western world. We fight for freedom of speech, something they don't have.

Charile Kirk, fine, a bit trolly, exercised freedom of speech, something that wasn't hateful, and something he had every right to do.

You are just so hateful, and you have the audacity to spout "love wins"


I have a very good heart.

I’m confused at what you seem to find hateful? I have seen him lose MANY MANY debates. I didn’t bring his rubbish debating skills into the thread, LT did, like LT brought Trans people into it too which is ironic considering he was debating with someone about the very low percentage of trans shooters compared to other mass shooters.

Seems like you’re looking for a row with me. Not interested. I don’t speak to people who screenshot pictures of members partners and share them online, like you do.

Now stop talking to me.

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250910/9d92fcade9e8034ee633b7e7ae992105.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a very good heart.

I’m confused at what you seem to find hateful? I have seen him lose MANY MANY debates. I didn’t bring his rubbish debating skills into the thread, LT did, like LT brought Trans people into it too which is ironic considering he was debating with someone about the very low percentage of trans shooters compared to other mass shooters.

Seems like you’re looking for a row with me. Not interested. I don’t speak to people who screenshot pictures of members partners and share them online, like you do.

Now stop talking to me.

why are you watching many many Charlie Kirk videos?

[Beso]

Where's your Charlie gone chants this weekend inLondon no doubt.


I can't say I've ever watched anything of his as I currently distance myself from the American side of politics, hope he pulls through but it sounds awful the way it's described.


It won't stop the far left from mocking the event though. Sad times.

[Glenn.]

why are you watching many many Charlie Kirk videos?


I like watching him try to debate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I like watching him try to debate.

then you are telling another lie today

id retire to your bed if i were you

this isnt the place m8

[Crimson Dynamo]

reports now saying the white 60 year old man isnt the shooter?

[Glenn.]

then you are telling another lie today

id retire to your bed if i were you

this isnt the place m8


No no definitely not lying.

I’ll stay thanks m8

[Cherie]

I have no idea who he is, but being shot for your views is not something anyone should celebrate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸

@RepMTG
·
25m
I’ve been told Charlie Kirk is alive.

Continue praying for Charlie! 🙏

America saw a miracle after Trump was shot because we as a nation were praying a covering of protection over him before he was ever shot in Butler.

America needs to see another miracle from all of us praying for Charlie after what looked unsurvivable.

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1965868073023647777

[Glenn.]

Thoughts and prayers

[Crimson Dynamo]

Emergency services responded swiftly, airlifting Kirk to a nearby trauma center where he
underwent emergency surgery. As of midday, his condition remains critical but stable,
according to a statement from Turning Point USA.

[emseateng2014]

from what i heard charlie died

[Crimson Dynamo]

we are at war with the Devil

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0glx_LWQAANxCj?format=jpg&name=medium

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1965878262942347440

[Crimson Dynamo]

RIP

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0g0niVWAAAAPcA?format=jpg&name=medium

[bots]

the danger now is that all hell breaks out. So many nutters with guns

[Livia]

The increasing glorification of violence on the left is getting scary. A lot of it seems to be driven by the terminally online and their need to show how edgy they are

Great post.

[arista]

He is Dead, sadly

[Livia]

Watch as the Left show us all who they really are.

[emseateng2014]

yup shot in the neck

He is Dead, sadly

[emseateng2014]

this is gonna be the biggest news in the right

[Swan]

Love wins?

[Vanessa]

Looks like he died :sad:

[Vanessa]

The increasing glorification of violence on the left is getting scary. A lot of it seems to be driven by the terminally online and their need to show how edgy they are

This. The left is celebrating this as well. Scary stuff

[Crimson Dynamo]

This. The left is celebrating this as well. Scary stuff

the left is a big problem Ness

really big

[emseateng2014]

like who in the left i wonder

This. The left is celebrating this as well. Scary stuff

[thesheriff443]

That’s really sad news to lose your life for speaking openly

[Swan]

Today is a declaration, it as a stand fear, just like Islam, you believe and follow what you believe or die.

Love wins NOTHING. The far modern psychotic left hate, they hate so much they want to , and do kill opposition.

So while the far left rejoices at the death of a political opponent, just remember, love no longer wins, it's dying.

He was a bit of a troll, he questioned certain things, he wasnt a world leader, he had NO official political power. And you, yes YOU, shot him dead because you didn't like what he was saying.

Your parents fought for free speech. Shame on YOU!

[arista]

Killer got away

[Niamh.]

Not a fan of most of his opinions but no one deserves to be shot and killed for opinions and wanting to debate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not a fan of most of his opinions but no one deserves to be shot and killed for opinions and wanting to debate.

and debate with fairness, civility and fearless dignity

[joeysteele]

Another loss of life due to some mindless individual.
America and guns, absolute madness.

R.I.P..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Another loss of life due to some mindless individual.
America and guns, absolute madness.

R.I.P..

the UK and knives
absolute madness

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/810/cpsprodpb/de84/live/45f73080-e3dd-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg

[Vicky.]

Not a fan of most of his opinions but no one deserves to be shot and killed for opinions and wanting to debate.

Pretty much this

RIP

[Ammi]

…it’s an horrific taking of a life …looking back a few moments ago at some vid of him just before this violent shooting, just chatting with those around him and preparing for the event etc…and obviously not realising that those would be the final moments of his life…heartbreaking/shocking …and his loved ones will replay and relive those moments with him again and again…just a senseless/mindless taking of a life….

[Crimson Dynamo]

2 seconds from death, a father of 2

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/en-us/comment/2025/09/10/TELEMMGLPICT000439396415_17575387399690_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqwpNyXcBoW0hEXsFzTJS90WFWiBLT-qYibCgAH1-b7kk.jpeg?imwidth=600

From scrappy activist to election-swinging heavyweight: no millennial (barring JD Vance) had more of an impact on the Trump-era Republican Party than Charlie Kirk. Today, in a moment that has sent shockwaves throughout the Maga movement, footage from a Utah college event showed Kirk being shot at from the crowd. The instant outpouring of support and concern for Kirk from the president and his Cabinet showed his enormous significance. Donald Trump announced his death a few hours later.

The terrible irony is that Kirk’s star rose through his willingness to place himself in the centre of nominally hostile liberal spaces

If men like Charlie Kirk can’t even speak to American students without fearing a gunman in the crowd, America is in a far more dangerous place than anyone has so far been willing to concede.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2025/09/10/charlie-kirks-shooting-terrible-moment-american-democracy/

[emseateng2014]

amen

not everyone on earth is a big fan of his opinions and some of his stuff he says but he is a human

Not a fan of most of his opinions but no one deserves to be shot and killed for opinions and wanting to debate.

[Glenn.]

the left is a big problem Ness

really big


Just went back to the killing of democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband.

I also went back to the thread on here and a lot of members who have been so vocal in this thread are nowhere to be found there.

These are comments from the Right on the assassination of Melissa Hortman and her husband. Just for a bit of perspective for you

@user888414142131: thank you president trump!!! [emoji3590][emoji3590][emoji3590]

@Kostas Papadopoulos: Democrats will do anything to tear this country apart
Johnstone: Democrats violent rhetoric causes this

@Bald Woman Lover: my prayers and condolences for the shooter and he shooters family as they get through these trying times

@kobeowns: We need more of this. Lawmakers have betrayed and stolen from the American people for decades
brenda Tibbettsrusty: [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


I’d say the right was just as big a problem.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This what they destroyed today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0g24ZKaMAIn8v6?format=jpg&name=small

[Maru]

He died for what he believed in and that's more than what a lot of people can say.

[Maru]

Just went back to the killing of democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband.

I also went back to the thread on here and a lot of members who have been so vocal in this thread are nowhere to be found there.

I know this is only internet clout to you, but I feel really hurt when I see political violence in my own country. I thought of her and her family for days and yes, it did not receive a whole lot of coverage. Our media—all of it—has very different priorities than the average American and its interests. These events still take me back to 9/11 every single time and how we seem to have gotten so far away from where we were before our worldview was forcibly changed overnight. Every political interest group came out of the woodwork to take advantage of our common interest and still seem intent on breaking us apart.

I think when we don't see average Americans coming out in major support for the country in what used to be a joyful way and mutual way, I think a lot of that has been because we've become so accustomed to seeing our emotional reactions being manipulated and abused for some other interest.

[Glenn.]

I know this is only internet clout to you, but I feel really hurt when I see political violence in my own country. I thought of her and her family for days and yes, it did not receive a whole lot of coverage. Our media—all of it—has very different priorities than the average American and its interests. These events still take me back to 9/11 every single time and how we seem to have gotten so far away from where we were before our worldview was forcibly changed overnight. Every political interest group came out of the woodwork to take advantage of our common interest and still seem intent on breaking us apart.

I think when we don't see average Americans coming out in major support for the country in what used to be a joyful way and mutual way, I think a lot of that has been because we've become so accustomed to seeing our emotional reactions being manipulated and abused for some other interest.


Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.

[Swan]

The left killed someone today who was exercising free speech. It wasn't hateful, it was opposing speech. I wasn't hateful, it was opposing speech.

The left once stood for free speech. Now, they're opponents of free speech. You have surpassed the historic tories, your demand to conform is now Nazi like.

[Crimson Dynamo]

All my votes are going to Marcello.

Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.

Amen

[Glenn.]

Also the shooter hasn’t even been found or identified. So the left and right angle really isn’t applicable

[Crimson Dynamo]

Also the shooter hasn’t even been found or identified. So the left and right angle really isn’t applicable

This is true to be fair

[Maru]

Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.

I agree with you in general, Glenn. I do think that's it's normal for people to have perfectly natural reactions to things in their own unique way. The same way a Muslim community might feel like they're under siege every time there's a terror attack, they know people are going to come out looking to blame them. And yes, political violence obviously has a different effect to people on both sides. For all we know though, the dude was right-leaning (wouldn't matter, Charlie Kirk is dead). If it were an LGBT killing, I wouldn't be ****ing bothered at all if certain people were upset that God forbid someone would shoot someone who shares their status. I would find that very difficult not take it personally, also.

Again, if we're part of a group that is a victim of violence, it's hard not to have a personal reaction. This is fine! Hopefully it eventually sinks in to others that this could happen to them. There's no worldview, public policy or perfect security that keeps one 100% safe. Trump's security team found out about a Glock the other day that got through security. (Pretty sure he has better security than most of us) If enough people are intent to kill someone, they will continue to try to find a way. Hopefully it makes people think.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Utah Governor has said it was a targeted attack

[Vanessa]

Have a look on Twitter if you have it. Looks like someone either knew the assassination would happen or it's the shooter himself!
He put his account to private, but people have screenshot his tweets.
He wrote that he knew it would happen :suspect:
Also, you can see the sniper running on the roof after the shooting.

[Barry.]

It’s shocking to see a young man lose his life in, yet, another gun shot. Guns need to be banned in America. Too many shootings and it will continue on. Left or right who cares, we can all agree on how this looks.

RIP Charlie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s shocking to see a young man lose his life in, yet, another gun shot. Guns need to be banned in America. Too many shootings and it will continue on. Left or right who cares, we can all agree on how this looks.

RIP Charlie.

Also kitchen knives in the UK?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"shot came from a roof"

Again..

[Maru]

"shot came from a roof"

Again..

It was rumored to be a 200y shot... that means they're not going to be easy to find.

[Barry.]

Also kitchen knives in the UK?

I too think knives to be banned from going outside. It’s harder to ban knives than it is guns though

[Maru]

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Need headphones to hear, but wow.

[Swan]

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Need headphones to hear, but wow.

Love wins!

[Ammi]

…some reports are now saying that the killer is in custody…

A suspect is in police custody in connection with the fatal shooting of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, described as a “political assassination” by Utah Gov. Spencer Cox.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/charlie-kirk-dead-live-updates-shot-utah-b2824229.html



FBI chief says suspect detained in Charlie Kirk killing

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/fbi-chief-says-suspect-detained-in-charlie-kirk-killing/

[Maru]

Charlie Kirk's assassin is caught by FBI after chilling video showed shadowy figure sprinting across roof following shooting: Governor vows killer will pay the ultimate price
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15085851/Charlie-Kirk-shot-uvu-shooting-Utah-campus-1-1.html

[Maru]

Love wins!

Could be any one of us this happens to. I don't think this is going to help, though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is a watershed moment for the world

Never has free speech been more in jeapordy

[Maru]

This is a watershed moment for the world

Yes, I think this hits more personally for some. Trump has more enemies, sure, but he also enjoys more privileges and protections than the average. So do most elected officials.

[Maru]

Well 9/11 is tomorrow...

[jones89]

Shocking. RIP

America is really going to sh*t huh?

[Swan]

Could be any one of us this happens to. I don't think this is going to help, though.

Not really, no. **** me!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shocking. RIP

America is really going to sh*t huh?

No, free speech is

Have a look around you

[Maru]

Shocking. RIP

America is really going to sh*t huh?

I would say in some ways unofficially we've now crossed the line where political violence can now be considered normalized. Listening to people talking about what that means, including some podcasters who are saying atm they're just not really feeling like posting videos or their comments.. and that's not something we would normally hear from any American political commentator.

[Mystic Mock]

i would never stop people from voicing their opinions or suggest that they be shot, but America is a dangerous place for individuals with strong political views

Agreed.

And it's been encouraged by the media in their country.

[Maru]

No, free speech is

Have a look around you

A lot of people died for our freedoms and people are very aware of that fact. It's not going to just go away. Not without a fight.

[Mystic Mock]

Watch as the Left show us all who they really are.

Tbf it's not all of the left that are like this.

But it is concerning how intolerant we are seeing an increase in intolerance from the left over recent years.

[Mystic Mock]

the UK and knives
absolute madness

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/810/cpsprodpb/de84/live/45f73080-e3dd-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg

It's a lot harder for the UK to ban knives from society than it would be for the US to ban guns.

[Maru]

It's a lot harder for the UK to ban knives from society than it would be for the US to ban guns.

I would have to disagree. The last thing one would want to do after someone was just shot dead for expressing their free speech is to try to crack down on the rights of others to defend themselves in the rest of the country. That would go very poorly and we would find out actually it is in fact much harder to ban guns than it would be knives in the US because the political blow back would be immediate.

[emseateng2014]

the reports about the assassination on mediaite.com is nuts like how the right mostly from fox news are having meltdowns but more like getting all fired up about how its all just the left fault

like 1st of all we still do not know who killed charlie and 2nd of all we do not know which side he or she is with and 3rd thing what if the killer is someone from the right then what will happen

[Maru]

the reports about the assassination on mediaite.com is nuts like how the right mostly from fox news are having meltdowns but more like getting all fired up about how its all just the left fault

like 1st of all we still do not know who killed charlie and 2nd of all we do not know which side he or she is with and 3rd thing what if the killer is someone from the right then what will happen

Yeah the wrong lessons are being learned, atm:

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[Mystic Mock]

Shocking. RIP

America is really going to sh*t huh?

Unfortunately America has been in the shitter since about 2015-2016 period.

This is them carrying on their spiral imo.

[Mystic Mock]

I would have to disagree. The last thing one would want to do after someone was just shot dead for expressing their free speech is to try to crack down on the rights of others to defend themselves in the rest of the country. That would go very poorly and we would find out actually it is in fact much harder to ban guns than it would be knives in the US because the political blow back would be immediate.

Timing would be important I do agree with you on that.

I was thinking more on America should slowly over the decades make it less of a societal norm for guns to be used in everyday life, kind of like how the UK has slowly phased Cigarettes out of regular use.

[Maru]

Timing would be important I do agree with you on that.

I was thinking more on America should slowly over the decades make it less of a societal norm for guns to be used in everyday life, kind of like how the UK has slowly phased Cigarettes out of regular use.

I don't see that happening for a number of reasons, much of which isn't even relevant atm. But especially now, as people are starting to become more self-aware about their own politics and are testing boundaries, some boundaries that the government and other individuals out in the wild seem very passionate about using as a justification to strip other's rights.

In the UK I understand the political environment is very different. But for us, it's considered a fundamental natural right and the most natural mandate as a citizen is very more closely tied to the means to self-defense. I would even guess it's a non-negotiable for much larger portions of the country than not.

We can talk about what restrictions and laws might come into play to help mitigate disaster (a different discussion), but an outright ban at this point isn't remotely conceivable. Especially as political violence is increasing. The whole point of 2A is exactly for politically dire situations like this where govt or agencies may use any context to repress or interfere with the individual rights of its citizens. Without making this post much longer, it's foundational to the formation of America.

[Alf]

What's the name for those people who shoot people dead, who disagree with them on some issues?

Remember when they tried the same but failed on Donald Trump?

What do you call these people who murder their political opponents in cold blood? What's the name for it?

[Alf]

Two young children have lost their dad forever.

For what? Because he had a different opinion than you.

[Maru]

Pretty sad coming from TMZ...

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Edit: TMZ apology: https://www.tmz.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-assassination-coverage-apology-laughter-newsroom-tmz/

[Maru]

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Bolt action rifle of some kind... (probably hunting rifle)

[Alf]

Still, at least it's taken people's thoughts away from the latest Peter Mandleson story. That one can go away quietly.

[Maru]

People are being mental in the comments:

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Also looks like it was a pellet gun:
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[Maru]

Kinda fishy if that's the only gun they had because it's a .22 and it doesn't do that kind of damage... this is why it's better to wait until all the facts come out:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022565033?pid=841233

[Cherie]

Kinda fishy if that's the only gun they had because it's a .22 and it doesn't do that kind of damage... this is why it's better to wait until all the facts come out:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022565033?pid=841233

You were right Maru this guy has been released

[Mystic Mock]

I don't see that happening for a number of reasons, much of which isn't even relevant atm. But especially now, as people are starting to become more self-aware about their own politics and are testing boundaries, some boundaries that the government and other individuals out in the wild seem very passionate about using as a justification to strip other's rights.

In the UK I understand the political environment is very different. But for us, it's considered a fundamental natural right and the most natural mandate as a citizen is very more closely tied to the means to self-defense. I would even guess it's a non-negotiable for much larger portions of the country than not.

We can talk about what restrictions and laws might come into play to help mitigate disaster (a different discussion), but an outright ban at this point isn't remotely conceivable. Especially as political violence is increasing. The whole point of 2A is exactly for politically dire situations like this where govt or agencies may use any context to repress or interfere with the individual rights of its citizens. Without making this post much longer, it's foundational to the formation of America.

You do make strong points tbh.

[Mystic Mock]

Still, at least it's taken people's thoughts away from the latest Peter Mandleson story. That one can go away quietly.

He sounds like a charming character.:umm2:

[bots]

From my view in the UK, it just doesn't seem like a viable option to try and ban guns in the USA. It's not going to stop bad actors using them and banning them at this point with the saturation of guns there are would only disadvantage law abiding citizens

It's just not comparable to the UK

It does seem like political violence is getting worse, but to me, that's not a gun problem, it's a general level of intolerance that is spreading everywhere and that has roots emanating from hundreds/thousands of sources and amplified by social media

[Glenn.]

Two young children have lost their dad forever.

For what? Because he had a different opinion than you.


In fairness, bigotry isn’t an opinion. I’m not condoning what happened but let’s not blur the lines there.

[Cherie]

Still, at least it's taken people's thoughts away from the latest Peter Mandleson story. That one can go away quietly.

That story is not going away, what about Trump? up to his neck in it

[BBXX]

I’m stunned by this. Nobody’s death should be celebrated, but I understand why some aren’t mourning him either.

Charlie Kirk had some abhorrent views, and as much as those views disgust me he has a right to have them and while others have a right to call them what they are and question him, nobody has a right to take another life.

I feel sorry for his family.

Charlie Kirk once said that we can’t let shooting victims emotionally hijack the narrative and so hopefully Trump follows through with his wishes and we can move on and let his family grieve in private without politicising Charlie’s death - because it’s absolutely what he wouldn’t want…

[Ammi]

…so the shooter wasn’t the shooter, then…and they remain out there, which obviously keeps the lives of others at risk from that same hand and that same fate…

[bots]

…so the shooter wasn’t the shooter, then…and they remain out there, which obviously keeps the lives of others at risk from that same hand and that same fate…

Some people are saying it was a shooter with a rifle on a nearby roof. I would think they could verify that fairly quickly.

I would be concerned that it encourages nutters to go out and shoot those that don't share their political opinions because america is building up to a powder keg.

[Maru]

From my view in the UK, it just doesn't seem like a viable option to try and ban guns in the USA. It's not going to stop bad actors using them and banning them at this point with the saturation of guns there are would only disadvantage law abiding citizens

It's just not comparable to the UK

It does seem like political violence is getting worse, but to me, that's not a gun problem, it's a general level of intolerance that is spreading everywhere and that has roots emanating from hundreds/thousands of sources and amplified by social media

There's been a progressive rise in sociopathy that's been missed, I think. So it turns out even the meekest amongst us can morph into hardened criminals seemingly overnight.

And we may very well be interacting with good numbers of these people on the regular, without our knowledge (especially online). Those little interactions here and there add up and influence our worldview and probably not for the greater good...

[Maru]

MAUREEN CALLAHAN: Charlie Kirk's body wasn't even cold... before the fighting started again. Do these ghouls not see where this is head
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086817/Charlie-Kirk-MSNBC-murder-maureen-callahan.html

Shot in the neck.

Not the head or the heart, but the neck — the throat, really, and that seems deliberate: Shut Charlie Kirk up, forever.

A self-made autodidact with no college education, a husband and father of two, 31-year-old Kirk embodied the American dream.

Through grit, hard work and ingenuity, he bypassed traditional media to become a podcasting powerhouse and an unofficial adviser to President Trump.

As the founder, face and CEO of Turning Point USA, he routinely toured college campuses — and it was at Utah Valley University that Kirk was shot in the neck while speaking.

Approximately four hours later, President Trump announced, on Truth Social, that Kirk had died.

'The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!'

Before Kirk's death was confirmed, the ghouls over at MSNBC were blaming the victim — a man shot while exercising free speech, which you'd think media pundits would understand.

Respect, even. But no.

Host Katy Tur walked right up to saying that Kirk had it coming, calling him 'divisive' and 'polarizing.'

Her guest, political analyst Matthew Dowd, went further — theorizing that rednecks on the right might have shot Kirk by accident.

'We don't know if this is a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration,' Dowd said.

Let that sink in.

Dowd is a liberal elite, a fixture of establishment Democrats and media, with the temerity to call Kirk's followers reckless and dumb enough to shoot their own hero out of misguided excitement.

Of course something this awful, this preventable and tragic, was bound to happen.

One only needs to hear the cynical, sub-human rhetoric in left-leaning media — and a culture that valorizes a stone-cold killer like Luigi Mangione — to realize that we now most resemble America circa 1963-1968.

JFK, assassinated in November 1963. Martin Luther King, assassinated in April 1968. Bobby Kennedy, assassinated two months later in June.

New generations now know the fear, the panic, the despair of mortal political grievance.

Have we really learned nothing?

President Trump, himself shot in Butler, PA just months before the 2024 presidential election. A second would-be assassin arrested just two months later, in September, at Trump's golf course.

June 2025: In the early morning hours of June 14, Minnesota state senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette were shot upon opening their door to a man dressed as law enforcement. The shooter then went to the residence of former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, and murdered them in their home in a targeted political assassination. (The Hoffmans survived.)

Her guest, political analyst Matthew Dowd (pictured), went further — theorizing that rednecks on the right might have shot Kirk by accident

April 13, 2025: An arsonist firebombed the home of PA governor Josh Shapiro, who was inside with his wife and children, by a would-be assassin who said he was motivated by what Shapiro 'wants to do to Palestine'.

October 28, 2022: Paul Pelosi, the elderly husband of then-House Speaker Nancy, is assaulted in their San Francisco home by a man wielding a clawhammer. Pelosi survived but required skull surgery.

June 14, 2017: House Majority Whip Steve Scalise is shot and critically injured in a mass shooting at the annual Congressional baseball game in Alexandria, Virginia.

January 8, 2011: U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords is shot in the head by a would-be assassin while holding a 'Congress on Your Corner' meet-and-greet outside a Safeway in Casas Adobes, Arizona.

And that's just a sampling for this millennium.

Kirk's assassination is different, of course, because he wasn't an elected official. He was a thinker, an author, a podcast host and a commentator who believed in the free expression of ideas.

Who reveled in the parry, the provocative idea, the engagement with the opposing political party.

But orthodoxy of thought no longer allows for that.

Orthodoxy of thought requires that the mainstream media falls in line when Trump is compared to Adolf Hitler or is called an authoritarian madman intent on destroying democracy.

It requires that friends and family members of good faith, in otherwise good standing, be excised and excommunicated for having different beliefs — the long hangover of COVID, lockdowns, vaccine-and-mask mandates.

We can't even come together to mourn the loss of life. It depends how you voted, just like everything else circa now: What side are you on?

When Rep. Lauren Boebert asked for a moment of silence for Kirk on the House floor, she was met with a chorus of 'NO!' from Democrats.

Will it be enough, for those who seek to excuse or explain away Kirk's assassination, that Barack Obama has outright condemned such medieval savagery?

'This kind of political violence has no place in our democracy,' he wrote on X. 'Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie's family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children'.

President Trump lowered the American flag that flies atop the White House to half-mast and has ordered all flags to be lowered until Sunday night.

Rest in peace Charlie Kirk. You were an increasingly rare breed: A true believer who sought to converse — and connect — with your opponents.

[Ammi]

There's been a progressive rise in sociopathy that's been missed, I think. So it turns out even the meekest amongst us can morph into hardened criminals seemingly overnight.

And we may very well be interacting with good numbers of these people on the regular, without our knowledge (especially online). Those little interactions here and there add up and influence our worldview and probably not for the greater good...

…a section taken from an article that I was reading yesterday ….

The shooting comes as a series of incidents over the past year show an increased level of violence related to political disagreements or intended to achieve political goals.

Trump faced two assassination attempts in 2024. Last December, a shooter targeted and killed the head of United Healthcare. Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro’s home was burned in an arson attack in April. Judges and elected officials report increased threats and harassment. Several instances of violence have stemmed from opposition to the Gaza war. In June, a man dressed as a police officer shot and killed a Democratic Minnesota state lawmaker and her husband, and wounded another state lawmaker and his wife. A gunman attacked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention headquarters in August, killing a police officer.

Surveys have shown increased acceptance of using violence for political aims across party spectrums. Robert Pape, who directs the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, wrote in the New York Times that a survey his team conducted in May was its “most worrisome yet”. “About 40 percent of Democrats supported the use of force to remove Mr. Trump from the presidency, and about 25 percent of Republicans supported the use of the military to stop protests against Mr. Trump’s agenda. These numbers more than doubled since last fall, when we asked similar questions,” he wrote.

…it’s what we have been saying and fearing for so long, though and has become now what we’re seeing…how the world has become divided and for all and any, is becoming so dangerous…and while all media’s encourage and nurture this ‘battleground’ of divide and violence, the governments are gaining more and more control ….

[Maru]

…a section taken from an article that I was reading yesterday ….

The shooting comes as a series of incidents over the past year show an increased level of violence related to political disagreements or intended to achieve political goals.

Trump faced two assassination attempts in 2024. Last December, a shooter targeted and killed the head of United Healthcare. Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro’s home was burned in an arson attack in April. Judges and elected officials report increased threats and harassment. Several instances of violence have stemmed from opposition to the Gaza war. In June, a man dressed as a police officer shot and killed a Democratic Minnesota state lawmaker and her husband, and wounded another state lawmaker and his wife. A gunman attacked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention headquarters in August, killing a police officer.

Surveys have shown increased acceptance of using violence for political aims across party spectrums. Robert Pape, who directs the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, wrote in the New York Times that a survey his team conducted in May was its “most worrisome yet”. “About 40 percent of Democrats supported the use of force to remove Mr. Trump from the presidency, and about 25 percent of Republicans supported the use of the military to stop protests against Mr. Trump’s agenda. These numbers more than doubled since last fall, when we asked similar questions,” he wrote.

…it’s what we have been saying and fearing for so long, though and has become now what we’re seeing…how the world has become divided and for all and any, is becoming so dangerous…and while all media’s encourage and nurture this ‘battleground’ of divide and violence, the governments are gaining more and more control ….

Funny. I just posted an article that also listed a lot of these.

And these are just national stories. There's been local incidents like attacks or threats against judges, etc. That's one reason I started the Local News thread because a lot of things are happening, but they just don't get the same traction media-wise.

For whatever reason, the Minnesota one really stuck with me. I remember watching a clip of her addressing a vote she had just made. She was utterly terrified having to face her constituents. Then she was killed shortly after that...

[Ammi]

…this doesn’t have the feel of a ‘random shooter’…the shot in itself was aimed in its deadliness …and that person must have positioned themselves so precisely in their planning…plus with all of the security resources surrounding the event and being moments away in being summoned…?…that person had their flight path planned successfully from their shooting position…doesn’t this feel very ‘professional’….

[Ammi]

Funny. I just posted an article that also listed a lot of these.

And these are just national stories. There's been local incidents like attacks or threats against judges, etc. That's one reason I started the Local News thread because a lot of things are happening, but they just don't get the same traction media-wise.

For whatever reason, the Minnesota one really stuck with me. I remember watching a clip of her addressing a vote she had just made. She was utterly terrified having to face her constituents. Then she was killed shortly after that...

…the horrific acts and taking of lives in themselves are so concerning but what’s also become terrifying is a public apathy of the common people for the slaughter of human life that I for sure have never known before …dependant on eho the victim is/victims are….

[Ammi]

…I mean, I’m not unrealistic enough to think that any gun laws/gun ownership will change but are we now looking at these type of events on university campuses with activists/speakers/media influencers etc having to take place in bulletproof cubes/behind screens to be able to ensure their safety…that isn’t a realistic thing either…

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/en-us/news/2025/09/11/TELEMMGLPICT000439420080_17575579097690_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQf0Rf_Wk3V23H2268P_XkPx c.jpeg?imwidth=960

[arista]

The Evil Killer fired the long-range rifle
from up high.


And got away................

[arista]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnl0d01DOtOhxJxd5anzB1wNmjzF4QH 1jHeA&s

Not nice for his Wife and kids

[BBXX]

Hopefully the maniac is found and locked up, surely they would have been caught on CCTV somewhere around the campus?

[Livia]

the reports about the assassination on mediaite.com is nuts like how the right mostly from fox news are having meltdowns but more like getting all fired up about how its all just the left fault

like 1st of all we still do not know who killed charlie and 2nd of all we do not know which side he or she is with and 3rd thing what if the killer is someone from the right then what will happen

The most disgusting remarks have come from the Left. Remember there is a widow and young children grieving today. Then read the sick, gleeful comments from the smug, violent Left.

[arista]

Hopefully the maniac is found and locked up, surely they would have been caught on CCTV somewhere around the campus?


Time will tell


I assume he drove away

[Glenn.]

The most disgusting remarks have come from the Left. Remember there is a widow and young children grieving today. Then read the sick, gleeful comments from the smug, violent Left.


The exact same happened from the violent right when Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot dead in their own home, along with their dog.

[Beso]

The murder of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy, and a sign of the utter desperation and cowardice of those who could not defeat him in argument. Charlie Kirk has been killed not for espousing extremist views - because he didn’t. He has been killed for saying things that used to be simple common sense. He has been killed because he had the courage to stand up publicly for reasonable opinions held by millions and millions of ordinary people both in the US and Britain. The world has a shining new martyr to free speech.

Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and loved ones.


Former Prime minister
Boris Johnson

[Crimson Dynamo]

A message from President Donald Trump

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1965947311718269341

[Ammi]

Hopefully the maniac is found and locked up, surely they would have been caught on CCTV somewhere around the campus?

Time will tell


I assume he drove away

…or is part of the university/campus/staff or whatever and still there…’blended’ in to their surroundings before their heinous act and gone back to ‘blending in’…?…

[Cherie]

Just went back to the killing of democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband.

I also went back to the thread on here and a lot of members who have been so vocal in this thread are nowhere to be found there.

These are comments from the Right on the assassination of Melissa Hortman and her husband. Just for a bit of perspective for you

@user888414142131: thank you president trump!!! [emoji3590][emoji3590][emoji3590]

@Kostas Papadopoulos: Democrats will do anything to tear this country apart
Johnstone: Democrats violent rhetoric causes this

@Bald Woman Lover: my prayers and condolences for the shooter and he shooters family as they get through these trying times

@kobeowns: We need more of this. Lawmakers have betrayed and stolen from the American people for decades
brenda Tibbettsrusty: [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


I’d say the right was just as big a problem.



Neither are you? why is that

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397377&highlight=democrat+shot&page=2

[Glenn.]

Neither are you? why is that

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397377&highlight=democrat+shot&page=2


I was probably banned from Serious Debates.

I’m also not right wing which is who I was referring to

[Livia]

Neither are you? why is that

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397377&highlight=democrat+shot&page=2

I think the currently accepted parlance is, Ooop...

[Cherie]

I was probably banned from Serious Debates.

I’m also not right wing which is who I was referring to

For a week max, forgotten so soon :skull:

[arista]

The One Good Thing about Charlie,
he would debate inside Universities

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/09/102033933-15087301-image-a-5_1757578502567.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/09/102033919-15087301-image-a-4_1757578493740.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/09/102033923-15087301-image-a-3_1757578492140.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/09/102033921-15087301-image-a-2_1757578482971.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/09/102033915-15087301-image-a-1_1757578477029.jpg

[Ammi]

The One Good Thing about Charlie,
he would debate inside Universities

…of course, but that’s something that is going to have to be looked at going forward…the ‘openness of speech’ is one thing but the openness of the venue which didn’t give him safety is something that needs to be addressed for all other speakers…

[Niamh.]

Hopefully the maniac is found and locked up, surely they would have been caught on CCTV somewhere around the campus?

You would think. I'm sure the FBI will find whoever did it, I doubt they are some criminal mastermind

[Liam-]

The increasing glorification of violence on the left is getting scary. A lot of it seems to be driven by the terminally online and their need to show how edgy they are

Meanwhile in the real world the right wing and maga nutjobs have been arming themselves and calling for a civil war for nearly 10 years, let’s not be completely blind now

[BBXX]

Turning this into a left v right issue is so easy to do but the truth is, extremes of both political scales act terribly during times like this. To suggest this gross behaviour only comes from the left is disingenuous because it’s based in falsehood.

This is a man who said if his daughter was to get pregnant as a child from the product of rape he would make her carry the baby to term. To suggest he didn’t hold extremist views is wrong.

Having said all that, nobody deserves to be killed while doing their job, even if that involves spouting outlandish views that many find awful.

He once said empathy is a weakness, so I shan’t hold out any for him, but I will for his family: his wife and most of all his children.

It’s a horrendous thing to happen and is a further example of why gun control is so important.

[Liam-]

Political violence is wrong no matter which side of the aisle it comes from, however the pearl clutching and the faux moral outrage at people not being sympathetic that someone who’s made a career from stoking division and hatred of minorities, fighting to keep allowing children get killed in schools because he likes his guns too much, earning money from publicly celebrating a genocide taking the lives of endless children because he doesn’t like their skin colour or religion, he himself said that he doesn’t like empathy because it’s new age nonsense, he wasn’t a good person and he made a massive amount of money by grooming young people into believing his lies and turning them into horrible people too in the process.

The right constantly mock and joke when people on the left are killed or attacked, let’s not forget what happened when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked by someone trying to kidnap her, the right were joyously celebrating and turning the story into Halloween costumes, they can’t pick and choose, either it’s fine to joke and not feel sympathy for someone you don’t like, or it’s not.

Should he have been murdered? No.
Does him being murdered suddenly earn him respect from people he’s made his targets his entire career? No
I feel sorry for his wife for losing her husband and his kids for losing their father, the video of his death will live on forever and that’s an appalling thing for his family to have to face.

He’s a victim of the climate he purposefully helped create for money and attention, an arsonist brought down by his own fire.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Graham Linehan 🎗️
@Glinner
·
5h
You don't have to say "I disagreed with him on some things". No-one agrees with
everyone on everything. It's a pointless statement that just distances you from your
own humanity.

[Cherie]

Turning this into a left v right issue is so easy to do but the truth is, extremes of both political scales act terribly during times like this. To suggest this gross behaviour only comes from the left is disingenuous because it’s based in falsehood.

This is a man who said if his daughter was to get pregnant as a child from the product of rape he would make her carry the baby to term. To suggest he didn’t hold extremist views is wrong.

Having said all that, nobody deserves to be killed while doing their job, even if that involves spouting outlandish views that many find awful.

He once said empathy is a weakness, so I shan’t hold out any for him, but I will for his family: his wife and most of all his children.

It’s a horrendous thing to happen and is a further example of why gun control is so important.


I wonder if that had actually happened that he would follow through, most of these people with extremely controversial views are more in the brigade of 'do as I say, not as I do' and I also agree with your point that both sides of the extreme are as bad as each other, that said it was just words, just his views, yes he had influence over some but that should never have ended in an assasination, I hope there wont be further tit for tat now

[Cherie]

James O Brien has just admitted on air he hadn't heard of this man or had most of his colleagues so at least I am not alone in never having heard of him or his views

[Ammi]

…a killer is a killer and that’s very person specific, let’s not wrap it up in left or right …we have no idea who Charlie Kirk’s killer is even and that’s hugely terrifying because they’re still out there with their thirst to kill…

[Liam-]

Baring in mind the last few political assassins/attempters, have all been maga voters, so this could very well be another home grown right on right crime again

[Crimson Dynamo]

MSNBC has FIRED Matthew Dowd over his shocking comments about Charlie Kirk following the shooting.

Source: Deadline

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1965971794742980682

[Niamh.]

I wonder if that had actually happened that he would follow through, most of these people with extremely controversial views are more in the brigade of 'do as I say, not as I do' and I also agree with your point that both sides of the extreme are as bad as each other, that said it was just words, just his views, yes he had influence over some but that should never have ended in an assasination, I hope there wont be further tit for tat now

Yeah, that's so true.

[Niamh.]

…a killer is a killer and that’s very person specific, let’s not wrap it up in left or right …we have no idea who Charlie Kirk’s killer is even and that’s hugely terrifying because they’re still out there with their thirst to kill…

Exactly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump blames ‘radical Left’ for Charlie Kirk assassination

US president said comparing ‘wonderful Americans like Charlie’ to Nazis made conservatives into targets

[Niamh.]

Trump blames ‘radical Left’ for Charlie Kirk assassination

US president said comparing ‘wonderful Americans like Charlie’ to Nazis made conservatives into targets

You know all this kind of stuff is just feeding the divisiveness of the world today, this is literally how we got here

[Glenn.]

Trump blames ‘radical Left’ for Charlie Kirk assassination

US president said comparing ‘wonderful Americans like Charlie’ to Nazis made conservatives into targets


Of course he blames the left. He’s not at fault at all.

It’s weird as **** that the announcement of his death came from Cankles McTaco Tits. Politicising his death. Classy.

Making a video about it. Classy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

On GMB this morning

Left-wing writer Nels Abbey (pictured) sparked a furious response after comparing Mr Kirk to the ex-leader of the Ku Klux Klan

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/10/102036623-15087301-image-a-21_1757584677618.jpg

Its despicable but its the fault of GMB for booking unsuitable unstable guests to speak about serious matters

smh

[rusticgal]

Yeah I see that too. Not very nice at all. Shouldn’t be online

But you still watched it...one of many that has no doubt. Thats why these things get put on Social media to feed peoples morbid curiosity.

[Cherie]

Have heard some of his views now, makes me glad I live in blissful ignorance that these views exist

[rusticgal]

James O Brien has just admitted on air he hadn't heard of this man or had most of his colleagues so at least I am not alone in never having heard of him or his views


I haven't either :shrug:

[Glenn.]

But you still watched it...one of many that has no doubt. Thats why these things get put on Social media to feed peoples morbid curiosity.


Not out of choice I didn’t!

[rusticgal]

Not out of choice I didn’t!


Someone forced you??...that's dreadful.

[Beso]

Holly Watson on Facebook


Nerissa Finn nah he did �� and **** his family aswell ���� do they feel sorry for all the woman who have killed themselves as they can’t get access to abortions from being raped. Nah so **** them ��������

[Glenn.]

Someone forced you??...that's dreadful.


What on earth are you actually talking about? Do you know how Twitter/X works?
Media on it plays automatically. And if it’s the same video that someone has shared it plays continuous no matter how far you scroll.

So yes in a round about way, yes I was forced to watch it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What on earth are you actually talking about? Do you know how Twitter/X works?
Media on it plays automatically. And if it’s the same video that someone has shared it plays continuous no matter how far you scroll.

So yes in a round about way, yes I was forced to watch it.

YOu can do 2 things here

1. In settings stop media from auto playing
2. in settings privacy you can turn offf graphic content or put warn on first

[Crimson Dynamo]

James O Brien has just admitted on air he hadn't heard of this man or had most of his colleagues so at least I am not alone in never having heard of him or his views

that was a lie Id imagine and a dig

a new low for him

smh

[Glenn.]

YOu can do 2 things here

1. In settings stop media from auto playing
2. in settings privacy you can turn offf graphic content or put warn on first


I shouldn’t have to.

I use X for a lot of different things. Turning autoplay and NSFW videos off would be detrimental to my user experience.

[Beso]

I shouldn’t have to.

I use X for a lot of different things. Turning autoplay and NSFW videos off would be detrimental to my user experience.

You wernt forced then, I would imagine you went onto x to find and view the clip.

[Glenn.]

You wernt forced then, I would imagine you went onto x to find and view the clip.


You can imagine all you want, you do that anyway. That’s all you do.

And amazingly continue to be so wrong. Bless

[Livia]

I would have to disagree. The last thing one would want to do after someone was just shot dead for expressing their free speech is to try to crack down on the rights of others to defend themselves in the rest of the country. That would go very poorly and we would find out actually it is in fact much harder to ban guns than it would be knives in the US because the political blow back would be immediate.

Great post, Maru, and true.

There are at least a dozen countries with more firearms deaths per head of capita than the USA but never make the news and disarming them all is never discussed on here.

[Vanessa]

The most disgusting remarks have come from the Left. Remember there is a widow and young children grieving today. Then read the sick, gleeful comments from the smug, violent Left.

They even posted gloating remarks to his grieving wife. Evil

[Vanessa]

The left is out of control and the media is feeding into their delusions. Calling people nazis. They have blood in their hands. CNN should be held accountable.

[Glenn.]

The left is out of control and the media is feeding into their delusions. Calling people nazis. They have blood in their hands. CNN should be held accountable.


Do you have evidence of such an outlandish claim? Or are you just spouting more unverified right wing nonsense?

Who has blood on their hands exactly?

[Vicky.]

If the shooter hasn't been found yet I doubt they will be

[Ammi]

If the shooter hasn't been found yet I doubt they will be

…yeah, not wanting to sound all conspiracy theory but this all feels a bit like a very professionally planned killing/assassination….

[Barry.]

The left is out of control and the media is feeding into their delusions. Calling people nazis. They have blood in their hands. CNN should be held accountable.

You are saying everyone in the left have blood on their hands, I disagree. The only one with blood on their hands is the killer, who we don’t know is part of any party, shot him in cold blood.

I hate the whole left and right thing, I never mention the directions as there are both good and bad in every party.

[bots]

it's a slippery slope when entire groups are blamed for an atrocity. It just escalates and perpetuates the problem.

This mantra of we need to tone down the rhetoric is wrong. What we need is non violent debate and exchange of ideas. It's not just America where this is happening, but it's starting to have perfect storm written all over it

[Ammi]

You are saying everyone in the left have blood on their hands, I disagree. The only one with blood on their hands is the killer, who we don’t know is part of any party, shot him in cold blood.

I hate the whole left and right thing, I never mention the directions as there are both good and bad in every party.

…totally, Barry…pointing a loaded weapon at a human being and pulling the trigger with the intention of ending their life is the act of an evil person with no value for human life and an extreme mindset…

[Ammi]

it's a slippery slope when entire groups are blamed for an atrocity. It just escalates and perpetuates the problem.

This mantra of we need to tone down the rhetoric is wrong. What we need is non violent debate and exchange of ideas. It's not just America where this is happening, but it's starting to have perfect storm written all over it

…and the only ones not being harmed by it all and by this nurturing of divisiveness are the governments who don’t have any of the common people’s interests in their hearts…it’s all perfectly distracting from their failures in every way and in every public service etc…social media has been and is a gift to them, really…

[Niamh.]

You are saying everyone in the left have blood on their hands, I disagree. The only one with blood on their hands is the killer, who we don’t know is part of any party, shot him in cold blood.

I hate the whole left and right thing, I never mention the directions as there are both good and bad in every party.

Me too. It does nothing but divide people even more

[Niamh.]

it's a slippery slope when entire groups are blamed for an atrocity. It just escalates and perpetuates the problem.

This mantra of we need to tone down the rhetoric is wrong. What we need is non violent debate and exchange of ideas. It's not just America where this is happening, but it's starting to have perfect storm written all over it

…and the only ones not being harmed by it all and by this nurturing of divisiveness are the governments who don’t have any of the common people’s interests in their hearts…it’s all perfectly distracting from their failures in every way and in every public service etc…social media has been and is a gift to them, really…

Yep, people need to wake up

[Crimson Dynamo]

What divides people is murdering the shining light of talking and meeting to debate in a kind considerate manner

[James]

Social media is a weird thing for political debate. It's either all one way or all the other, with little actual debate or compromise in between. It gives outsized weight to fringe opinion.

[arista]

FBI Live
claim they have video of the killer

But will not release his photo?


They say they have his Rifle

[Niamh.]

FBI
claim they have video of the killer

But will not release his photo?


They say they have his Rifle

That's good to hear, hopefully that means he will be found

[joeysteele]

You are saying everyone in the left have blood on their hands, I disagree. The only one with blood on their hands is the killer, who we don’t know is part of any party, shot him in cold blood.

I hate the whole left and right thing, I never mention the directions as there are both good and bad in every party.

I agree wholeheartedly.
It's a despicable slur.
The hysterical nonsense spouted just fuels even more divisions.

It's actually why I don't post much on here now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel pays tribute to Charlie in the House of Commons today

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1966119434453491976

[arista]

That's good to hear, hopefully that means he will be found


Yes, Found or Killed



He is of college age?

[arista]

Live on all TV news

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Keeping his photo secret
FBI confirmed the rifle was found in the nearby woods


So he ran on foot to another Car


FBI now Concluded

[Niamh.]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

Absolutely disgusting

[arista]

Yes CD

"Ben Shapiro" needs to watch his back

[Livia]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

Going to go back through the thread and read again how awful it is to criticise the Left, while thanking God I'm not Ben Shapiro or J K Rowling.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Konstantin has a brief message

XDUbaPemXZM

[arista]

If the shooter hasn't been found yet I doubt they will be


No FBI has him on Video

It is a matter of time.



They so far, are keeping his photo secret
for a reason

[Vanessa]

They lefties have said Ben Shapiro is next.
FBI need to look into this.
And the killer could be one of them who celebrated Charlies death.
One of them even posted a pic of a rifle D:

[Beso]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

Sad hypocrites.

[Vanessa]

Sad hypocrites.

One of them could be the shooter. One even posted his rifle. Wtf

[Beso]

One of them could be the shooter. One even posted his rifle. Wtf

Cowards behind screen, ness..that's alll they are..hate themselves so much they have to outpore it onto someone else.

[Gusto Brunt]

there is a close-up video. he gets shot and blood erupts from his neck like a full on outdoor tap

looks like main artery is severed

if they got compression immediately ok, if not

I hope I don't sound cruel and uncaring here, but anyone who puts themselves in the spotlight, should expect that someone will try and kill them.

Whether your're John Lennon or Robert Kennedy, Trump, or this guy. There will be nutters about.

I saw that video, the one that shows the actual hit, and the fact he was on stage there unprotected is carzy. He should have been behind a transparent bullet proof screen.

[bots]

it is a perfect storm. Politicians, big tech owners and advertisers gain from dividing society and making them angry. Social media curates personal news feeds for individuals to perpetuate division rather than providing balance. If people don't see the harm this is causing, they need to give themselves a good shake

[Beso]

I hope I don't sound cruel and uncaring here, but anyone who puts themselves in the spotlight, should expect that someone will try and kill them.

Whether your're John Lennon or Robert Kennedy, Trump, or this guy. There will be nutters about.

I saw that video, the one that shows the actual hit, and the fact he was on stage there unprotected is carzy. He should have been behind a transparent bullet proof screen.




The defining memory I will have for a long time after watching it is the one lone male voice, anguished, uttering one word. "Charlie"


Haunting.

[Gusto Brunt]

The defining memory I will have for a long time after watching it is the one lone male voice, anguished, uttering one word. "Charlie"


Haunting.

It's something that will be hard to forget. Just like that poor girl stabbed to death on the train. :(

[Beso]

It's something that will be hard to forget. Just like that poor girl stabbed to death on the train. :(

Yeah, not a nice day yesterday. I had just finished seeing that video, then 10 mins later it was this story.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope I don't sound cruel and uncaring here, but anyone who puts themselves in the spotlight, should expect that someone will try and kill them.

Whether your're John Lennon or Robert Kennedy, Trump, or this guy. There will be nutters about.

I saw that video, the one that shows the actual hit, and the fact he was on stage there unprotected is carzy. He should have been behind a transparent bullet proof screen.

Sadly he kind of predicted it..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0hm26XWcAAApAb?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

From Times Radio Live:


FBI is running his (Student Killer)
face through
Computer checks

Before it goes public?

[Glenn.]

1965956115289747631?s=46&t=jGjsPOhSduCbgISdXHWlrQ

[Crimson Dynamo]

He tweeted this out in 2016

Charlie Kirk

charliekirk11
You can tell a lot about a person by how they react when someone dies.

9:42 PM · Nov 27, 2016

[arista]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Charlie_Kirk_%26_Rand_Paul_%2849271284072%29.jpg/500px-Charlie_Kirk_%26_Rand_Paul_%2849271284072%29.jpg

Charlie Kirk talking with Politician Rand Paul
in 2019.

[arista]

He tweeted this out in 2016

Charlie Kirk

charliekirk11
You can tell a lot about a person by how they react when someone dies.

9:42 PM · Nov 27, 2016


Yes you sure can,


In the USA, there are women in Love
with the Evil Killer of a Bank CEO in NYC

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨 BREAKING: President Trump just announced he will be posthumously awarding Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom

"Charlie was a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty and inspiration to millions and millions of people."

"We miss him greatly.. I have no doubt Charlie's voice and courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_1.jpg/250px-Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_1.jpg

[Cherie]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

Jeez is you took James O Briens word for it Blue Sky is the epitome of civility, he is always banging on about being on Blue Sky

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jeez is you took James O Briens word for it Blue Sky is the epitome of civility, he is always banging on about being on Blue Sky

Look at this guy...:umm2:

https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1966107679593803806

[Maru]

Can we stop treating these toys with any degree of seriousness now:

https://i.postimg.cc/BZhKcQ3x/1757601561695.webp

[bots]

i heard that blue sky had dive bombed and this backs it up. I think the issue is that all the members on social media sites are indoctrinated with the same cool ade and short of shutting the platform down, there is nothing that can be done about it

[Livia]

Look at this guy...:umm2:

https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1966107679593803806

Disgusting waste of skin and organs.

[Liam-]

The hysterical hyperbole from the right is an exact representation of what the issue is, they want this to happen to people they disagree with, they’re just angry when it happens to one of them instead, it’s a state of mental illness that desperately needs addressing

[Livia]

The Left have been radicalised to spout the same vile bull **** and they all agree with each other. See above for proof.

[jones89]

The hysterical hyperbole from the right is an exact representation of what the issue is, they want this to happen to people they disagree with, they’re just angry when it happens to one of them instead, it’s a state of mental illness that desperately needs addressing

I think it’s clear that the left have the right beat when it comes to mental illness atm.. unless the shooter was like, completely sane and sorted and just decided to shoot a random person because they felt like it

[Maru]

i heard that blue sky had dive bombed and this backs it up. I think the issue is that all the members on social media sites are indoctrinated with the same cool ade and short of shutting the platform down, there is nothing that can be done about it

Political migrant/refugee sites tend to be that way (schitzophrenic in many ways). Parler had civil discourse but it also had tons of lunatics. To accept social media as a useful tool currently, one has to overlook quite a bit when using those tools and everyone has very different filters personally as to what is bothersome.

YOu can do 2 things here

1. In settings stop media from auto playing
2. in settings privacy you can turn offf graphic content or put warn on first

My fix is to use Desktop. I don't keep mobile apps to reduce battery, for data privacy reasons and because I just don't need it. After reading through X yesterday, I think that was the right call...

[Cherie]

Bluesky's alleged reputation for being where all the kind souls went to after Elon freed Twitter is in tatters...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kGtN3WUAAgTuV?format=jpg&name=small

Interesting how much they hate women, yet they want to be women...

[Vanessa]

Some think Mossad was behind it. Someone close to Charlie claimed that he suspected being taken out.

[Beso]

Holly Watson on Facebook


Nerissa Finn nah he did �� and **** his family aswell ���� do they feel sorry for all the woman who have killed themselves as they can’t get access to abortions from being raped. Nah so **** them ��������





The heartless cow just told me even my hairs trying to get away from me.:fist:


Can you believe she actually works for NHS lothian.

[Livia]

Some think Mossad was behind it. Someone close to Charlie claimed that he suspected being taken out.

Why would Mossad want him dead?

[arista]

New reports in USA News & WSJ

Ammunition engraved with transgender & antifascist ideology

[Beso]

Another sicko celebrating what he's just seen.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16PKygEeNH/

[Maru]

New reports in USA News & WSJ

Ammunition engraved with transgender & antifascist ideology

If it's from ATF, it's more or less official

[Crimson Dynamo]

New reports in USA News & WSJ

Ammunition engraved with transgender & antifascist ideology

well well

[Vanessa]

Apparently FBI have clear videos of the shooter. They're very close to finding out who did it!

[rusticgal]

What on earth are you actually talking about? Do you know how Twitter/X works?
Media on it plays automatically. And if it’s the same video that someone has shared it plays continuous no matter how far you scroll.

So yes in a round about way, yes I was forced to watch it.


Don't use it myself....but you can still scroll past it can't you?

[Vanessa]

Why would Mossad want him dead?

Because of the epstein files maybe?
Just a theory. It could easy be a left wing nutter.

[Maru]

Apparently FBI have clear videos of the shooter. They're very close to finding out who did it!

I think so because I've seen the information being released. I think if they hadn't already identified them, they wouldn't be putting out information like this. It might be they hope someone comes forward who might know them with more information.

[Vanessa]

New reports in USA News & WSJ

Ammunition engraved with transgender & antifascist ideology

From what I've seen on Twitter a lot if then knew it would happen. How did those left wing nuts know?

[Liam-]

Deranged

[Livia]

Because of the epstein files maybe?
Just a theory. It could easy be a left wing nutter.

If a Mossad agent had shot Charlie Kirk he'd not have fired from 200 yards and hit him in the neck, he'd have blown his heart out from 600 metres. And there'd be no film of the shooter creeping around in the roof.

[Vanessa]

If a Mossad agent had shot Charlie Kirk he'd not have fired from 200 yards and hit him in the neck, he'd have blown his heart out from 600 metres. And there'd be no film of the shooter creeping around in the roof.

Fair point.
Could be a student. They would have access to the area and help to escape.

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨 BREAKING: Investigators have obtained "high quality" video of the Charlie
Kirk assassin, but will NOT yet be releasing it to the public yet

The suspect arrived on campus at 11:52am, walked across campus, and
accessed a rooftop from a stairwell.

After the shooting, he ran to the other side of the building, jumped off the
rooftop, and fled into the neighborhood.

That's where investigators found the doorbell camera footage of him.

[arista]

The Photo of the Student Killer
Now Released


On TV news now

[arista]

FBI say he is a person of interest


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/17/102054359-0-image-m-6_1757606594912.jpg

[Glenn.]

Don't use it myself....but you can still scroll past it can't you?

Yes you can but if it’s the same video which it was, from the same source it will continuously play when you scroll. Not sure why you’re trying to argue about it tbh.

[Vanessa]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/17/102054359-0-image-m-6_1757606594912.jpg

It's a student!

[arista]

It's a student!


Yes FBI
already said he was at College

[Maru]

From what I've seen on Twitter a lot if then knew it would happen. How did those left wing nuts know?

This is very incidental, but hub said over the past week several people in the field had come up to him and asked him if he knew Charlie Kirk. He thought that was really odd. It's not a household name for us :laugh: He works in law enforcement so they have to keep tabs on these kinds of things and so there's word of mouth as things continue to pop up. So it may just be that he's enjoying a surge in attention in general and any number of things could've put a spotlight on him and encouraged someone to act.

Putting myself in those shoes, just even hearing about him being spoken about around my own world offline would've been a clue that these politics are becoming much more mainstream. That's obviously another reason for someone to act out.

[arista]

Images taken from Video CCTV



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/17/1757606469054_wide_galleryImage_We_are_asking_for_ the_pub.JPG

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/17/1757606983571_wide_galleryImage_FBI_Salt_Lake_City _FBISal.JPG

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/11/16/1757605780755_wide_galleryImage_Law_enforcement_of ficials.JPG

FBI found the Rifle