Young people on UC for over 18 months will be forced to work

[Cherie]

Young people who have been out of work for 18 months will be given jobs under new plans to tackle unemployment, Rachel Reeves will announce on Monday.

The chancellor is set to use her speech at the Labour Party conference to unveil a “youth guarantee”, meaning every young person who has received universal credit (UC) benefits for 18 months without “earning or learning” will be offered paid work, an apprenticeship or a place at college.

It is understood claimants will face sanctions such as losing their benefits if they refuse to take up jobs under the scheme without a reasonable excuse.

The guarantee forms part of a pledge of “nothing less than the abolition of long-term youth unemployment”, Ms Reeves will say, as she vows to build an economy that works for working people – and rewards them.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/young-people-to-be-forced-into-work-under-rachel-reeves-s-plan-to-tackle-unemployment/ar-AA1NtCq3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68da25e60ad84444bb633ac36943d34f&ei=19

[Zizu]

They will be horrified


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[arista]

They will be horrified




Yes, they will.


Rachel Reeves is going live at 12 midday.
Or just after that

[arista]

Reeves Now live

[arista]

A Protester started shouting about Palestine

[Vicky.]

It is understood claimants will face sanctions such as losing their benefits if they refuse to take up jobs under the scheme without a reasonable excuse.

So are these paid jobs or more slave labour (aka 'workfare')?

If it's actual jobs then great. If it's working for free for Poundland etc then I disagree with it completely


Edit. Skimread :laugh: agree with it as long as it's paid. No clue why they couldn't do it before the 18 month part tho...

[Cherie]

It is understood claimants will face sanctions such as losing their benefits if they refuse to take up jobs under the scheme without a reasonable excuse.

So are these paid jobs or more slave labour (aka 'workfare')?

If it's actual jobs then great. If it's working for free for Poundland etc then I disagree with it completely


Edit. Skimread :laugh: agree with it as long as it's paid. No clue why they couldn't do it before the 18 month part tho...

I think they will start with those on long term bennies and then reduce the timeframe down, she says it will be paid so I assume they will have to get at least minimum wage

[arista]

40mins too long


And she kept repeating phrases

[Cherie]

Did anyone else think she sounded like Thatcher at times

[arista]

Did anyone else think she sounded like Thatcher at times



Yes a bit

[arista]

Young people
will soon have to work.

Under her new plan


Benefit Money is on a Clock now
time is ticking away,
to when young people will not get any,
unless they work

[Oliver_W]

A Protester started shouting about Palestine

They won't have so much free time soon!

[Vicky.]

I think they will start with those on long term bennies and then reduce the timeframe down, she says it will be paid so I assume they will have to get at least minimum wage

Good. I assume most people would be happier working anyway..must be awful trying to live on a hundred quid a week. Creating more paid jobs can only be a good thing

[Cherie]

A Protester started shouting about Palestine

Being cynical I think the person was a Labour plant, she had the answer ready on the tip of her tongue

[Glenn.]

Why only young people?

[Gusto Brunt]

I think this is right. When I was 16 I went straight from school to working in a supermarket.

Today they go straight from school to a lifetime on benefits. It's a massive waste of youth and potential.

[joeysteele]

When more details of this are revealed, I'll make a firmer view.
However it's something I could see the benefits of doing definitely.

[Cherie]

When more details of this are revealed, I'll make a firmer view.
However it's something I could see the benefits of doing definitely.

They are going to have to pay employers to take them on with the recent NI hike, in theory I am all for it no fit young person should be languishing on the dole

[emseateng2014]

lol what if the young people in uk refuse to work

[Glenn.]

lol what if the young people in uk refuse to work


It says in the OP. They have their benefit sanctioned

[arista]

Yesterdays paper

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8f6726be-143c-4d01-acca-f1742df007ce.jpeg

[emseateng2014]

even if the young people do not want to get jobs

It says in the OP. They have their benefit sanctioned

[Cherie]

even if the young people do not want to get jobs

er being on benefits is not a lifestyle choice its a safety net for those who genuinely cannot work...if someone doesn't want a job they need to find a way to support themselves and not expect working people to support them via their tax

[Mystic Mock]

Why only young people?

I was wondering that?:laugh:

And considering we've got bigger issues to deal with such as law & order, digital ID's, and an aging population, I do believe that this policy could've waited.

I'm waiting for these two horrible policies next.

- National Service

- Breathing Tax

I'm exaggerating about the Breathing Tax (fingers crossed) but Starmer just doesn't have a clue unfortunately.

Even with a more understandable policy like getting people employed, he still finds a way to botch it.

[Cherie]

I was wondering that?:laugh:

And considering we've got bigger issues to deal with such as law & order, digital ID's, and an aging population, I do believe that this policy could've waited.

I'm waiting for these two horrible policies next.

- National Service

- Breathing Tax

I'm exaggerating about the Breathing Tax (fingers crossed) but Starmer just doesn't have a clue unfortunately.

Even with a more understandable policy like getting people employed, he still finds a way to botch it.

We already have a breathing tax in London, its called ULEZ

[Mystic Mock]

We already have a breathing tax in London, its called ULEZ

They tax people for breathing Oxygen?:umm2:

[Cherie]

They tax people for breathing Oxygen?:umm2:

Yes if you have a car that is over a certain age and you drive into London you are charged 12.50 or 100 for a lorry/coach ...charging people apparently makes the air cleaner :laugh:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/advice/driving-advice/ulez/

[Mystic Mock]

Yes if you have a car that is over a certain age and you drive into London you are charged 12.50 or 100 for a lorry/coach ...charging people apparently makes the air cleaner :laugh:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/advice/driving-advice/ulez/

What is this world coming to.:facepalm:

Thanks for the link Cherie.

[emseateng2014]

if there was a tax for breathing oxygen in uk then you might as well go to outer space or something like that

They tax people for breathing Oxygen?:umm2:

[Oliver_W]

I'm a bit in two minds about this - in principle, why should people get a living handed to them when they're opting out of work by choice rather than circumstance? "Crap" jobs aren't beneath anyone, much less anyone who's been a NEET for ages.

[Mystic Mock]

if there was a tax for breathing oxygen in uk then you might as well go to outer space or something like that

I hope that Starmer isn't secretly a TIBB member, because he might take inspiration from this post.:laugh:

[emseateng2014]

:laugh:

I hope that Starmer isn't secretly a TIBB member, because he might take inspiration from this post.:laugh:

[Glenn.]

even if the young people do not want to get jobs


Then they don’t get benefits :shrug:

[bots]

it should be about providing an incentive to work, but there are a lot of people, not just the youth, who just can't be arsed working anymore. It was already a big problem and then covid came along and made it 10 times worse. There has to be a cut off point somewhere

[Vanessa]

You can work and get UC. These people are just lazy.

[Mystic Mock]

You can work and get UC. These people are just lazy.

Tbf, the Government does need to create more jobs too.

[emseateng2014]

oh ok

Then they don’t get benefits :shrug:

[emseateng2014]

also lol lol just being a social media person can make you money like the youtubers tick tockers tweeters onlyfans stars and twitchers

imagine making loads of cash for being a bunch of different forums and just quoting replying and posting threads

it should be about providing an incentive to work, but there are a lot of people, not just the youth, who just can't be arsed working anymore. It was already a big problem and then covid came along and made it 10 times worse. There has to be a cut off point somewhere

[emseateng2014]

lol lol like how being social media people are jobs

imagine if being on a bunch of forums were a job

You can work and get UC. These people are just lazy.

[emseateng2014]

the dark side about it is not everyone could be qualifed for the more jobs depending on what it is like for examples not all of us in this forums could be qualifed to work behind the scenes at the many big brother studios or another example not all of us in this forums could all be a cast member of all the big brother shows

Tbf, the Government does need to create more jobs too.

[Mystic Mock]

the dark side about it is not everyone could be qualifed for the more jobs depending on what it is like for examples not all of us in this forums could be qualifed to work behind the scenes at the many big brother studios or another example not all of us in this forums could all be a cast member of all the big brother shows

That's another big issue in society.

Needing to go to a University to get a qualification for every well paid job that people dream about getting.

Like for example, you shouldn't need to get a degree in bloody creative writing.:joker:

[emseateng2014]

multi universitys to get like multi qualifications for like the upper class higher level type jobs aka doctors lawyers teachers cooks chefs presidents prime ministers governors senators premiers congress real estate agents and judges

That's another big issue in society.

Needing to go to a University to get a qualification for every well paid job that people dream about getting.

Like for example, you shouldn't need to get a degree in bloody creative writing.:joker:

[Livia]

Yes if you have a car that is over a certain age and you drive into London you are charged 12.50 or 100 for a lorry/coach ...charging people apparently makes the air cleaner :laugh:

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/advice/driving-advice/ulez/


A new runway planned for Heathrow, so even more planes taking off and landing over Hounslow... where you have to pay to drive your car because of emissions. Honestly, you couldn't make this stuff up......

[Mystic Mock]

multi universitys to get like multi qualifications for like the upper class higher level type jobs aka doctors lawyers teachers cooks chefs presidents prime ministers governors senators premiers congress real estate agents and judges

Again I don't understand for Chefs.

If you can cook food at a decent level, you don't need a degree to tell people that imo.

It's society trying to make it harder for the working class to move up the ladder.

[emseateng2014]

its a crazy planet and society we live in

Again I don't understand for Chefs.

If you can cook food at a decent level, you don't need a degree to tell people that imo.

It's society trying to make it harder for the working class to move up the ladder.

[Mystic Mock]

its a crazy planet and society we live in

It truly is.

[Livia]

Is it still Jobseeker's Allowance? Because part of receiving that is the agreement that you're looking for work. Or are there benefits you can claim now without having to seek employment?

[Oliver_W]

Is it still Jobseeker's Allowance? Because part of receiving that is the agreement that you're looking for work. Or are there benefits you can claim now without having to seek employment?

I think it's Universal Credit across the board, but some people get the extra disability components, and this may or may not cancel out the job seeking obligations.

[Livia]

I think it's Universal Credit across the board, but some people get the extra disability components, and this may or may not cancel out the job seeking obligations.

Oh, I see. Thanks Oliver.