HAMAS agrees to parts of the new Trump/Blair Deal

[arista]

They will release all Hostages/Prisoners


Just on SkyNewsHD


https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-agrees-to-release-all-remaining-israeli-hostages-but-seeks-further-talks-on-trumps-peace-deal-13443611

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxq7zp7002o

[arista]

Israel is also now agreeing

President Trump has ordered the bombing to stop?

[Livia]

So they're sending the hostages back? In bits, I'm presuming...

[The Slim Reaper]

So they're sending the hostages back? In bits, I'm presuming...

Anything happened over the last 2 years, that might provide a reason for why they would be in bits?

Hamas offered multiple deals to return the hostages, but it was Israel who rejected them, so they could do rape and genocide.

All factual information, so it will probably get me a ban from the thread.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israel’s army has been ordered to stop all offensive operations in Gaza City in preparation for the implementation of Donald Trump’s peace plan.

The Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) were ordered overnight to stop offensive operations in the largest city in Gaza but were carrying on some defensive operations, according to the Times of Israel.

[arista]

So they're sending the hostages back? In bits, I'm presuming...


Yes, the dead ones.


But there are around 20 said to be alive

[arista]

The Israeli PM was meant to go Live at 6PM our time

TV news still waiting

[arista]

On SkyNewsHD now

Not Live

too short

[Crimson Dynamo]

By the way

Has anyone seen any images of dead Hamas terrorists from Gaza?

Or..is..it..just.. civilians?

Asking for a friend

:whistle:

[arista]

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[Maru]

How did Blair get involved exactly??? Isn't he out of power?

[arista]

How did Blair get involved exactly??? Isn't he out of power?


Yes, he has a New Job in the Middle East, Now.

[Maru]

Yes, he has a New Job in the Middle East, Now.

Oh, Trump appointed him... wow....

What to know about former U.K. leader Tony Blair, tapped by Trump for postwar Gaza role
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/03/g-s1-91456/tony-blair-gaza-trump-peace-plan

LONDON — In President Trump's 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza, only one name appears other than his own: Tony Blair.

Blair, as prime minister of the United Kingdom, helped negotiate a 1998 peace deal ending decades of sectarian fighting in Northern Ireland. He later served as a Middle East peace envoy for the international community, and now runs a London think tank.

But the 72-year-old former politician comes with baggage: He's reviled in the U.K. and internationally for his 2003 decision to join President George W. Bush's U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

That war led to some 200,000 civilian deaths and triggered some of the biggest street protests in modern British history. It was a military quagmire and contributed to a precipitous drop in Blair's approval rating, according to Ipsos polling throughout his decade in power. No other prime minister in modern British history experienced such a steep plunge in popularity.

[arista]

Tomorrow
in Egypt, there will be a rushed meeting of many heads
of nations and others.


Ref: Ch4HD Sunday News

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Hamas was literally created as a means of defence against the aggressor which is Israel for many decades now


as if Israel will keep themselves to this ''peace deal'' not with their ongoing desire to claim more land, i don't trust the IDF, not for one bit

[Livia]

Hamas will not disarm. Quel surprise.

Nicky, you're back on the "evil Israel, Hamas are brave freedom fighters" shtick. Aren't you ever embarrassed? Here you are praising the 7th October murderers. Eighty-odd years ago you'd probably be dobbing in your Jewish neighbours then regretting it the next day.

[Nicky91]

Hamas will not disarm. Quel surprise.

Nicky, you're back on the "evil Israel, Hamas are brave freedom fighters" shtick. Aren't you ever embarrassed? Here you are praising the 7th October murderers. Eighty-odd years ago you'd probably be dobbing in your Jewish neighbours then regretting it the next day.

i only say the reason why Hamas were created, in the 1970's decade


not created for its sole purpose as a terrorist organisation, unlike the IRA in Ireland for example


''7th October murderers'' well they are murderers from that one day, compared to the IDF got blood on their hands from innocent gazan citizens many months, years, decades is it now


but at least you guys have the support of those german idiots, right

[Livia]

i only say the reason why Hamas were created, in the 1970's decade


not created for its sole purpose as a terrorist organisation, unlike the IRA in Ireland for example


''7th October murderers'' well they are murderers from that one day, compared to the IDF got blood on their hands from innocent gazan citizens many months, years, decades is it now


but at least you guys have the support of those german idiots, right

When you say "you guys", do you mean Jews? Or do you think I'm Israeli?

[Nicky91]

When you say "you guys", do you mean Jews? Or do you think I'm Israeli?

don't give me these uncomfortable questions, please



i say certain things wrong, and if i do have to answer you, then i just presume you got israeli roots or something, considering you passionately defend them, and you deny the deaths of innocent civilians, because don't tell me everyone who died in Gaza was a terrorist

[Livia]

don't give me these uncomfortable questions, please



i say certain things wrong, and if i do have to answer you, then i just presume you got israeli roots or something, considering you passionately defend them, and you deny the deaths of innocent civilians, because don't tell me everyone who died in Gaza was a terrorist

Do you think all Muslims are terrorists? That maybe all Muslims are Palestinians? No, you have a different set of rules for dealing with Jews.

You've dismissed the 7th October attacks with a wave of your hand. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with what exactly happened on that day. Do you know Hamas have fired missiles into Israel every day for decades, usually from the roofs of hospitals or schools. They refuse to allow ordinary Palestinians to shelter in their 300 miles of tunnels, none of the surrounding Islamic countries want to take in Palestinians, why is that? Hamas fighters are not freedom fighters.

If I call you anti-Semitic you get all bent out of shape. But when you make anti-Semitic statements, what am I supposed to think?

[Nicky91]

i give up Livia

[Livia]

i give up Livia

No, you don't. You're far too stupid to realise you've said enough. You'll be back on here making anti-Semitic comments, followed by a couple of days siding with Israel... Then back to the Jew hate. I'm the one who gives up.

[Nicky91]

No, you don't. You're far too stupid to realise you've said enough. You'll be back on here making anti-Semitic comments, followed by a couple of days siding with Israel... Then back to the Jew hate. I'm the one who gives up.

no i am the one who gives up, all this gives me headaches


and i expect an apology from you accusing me of being anti-semitic

[Livia]

no i am the one who gives up, all this gives me headaches


and i expect an apology from you accusing me of being anti-semitic

You'll be waiting a long time. I stand by everything I've said.

[arista]

Reports Hamas
has until Friday to fully accept the Deal.

Talks in Egypt, with Hamas
start later today.


Ch4HDnews

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2zNlAIX0AAo8i3?format=jpg&name=small

[Vanessa]

That's very good news.

[Livia]

There are only around 20 hostages alive so the rest will be going home in boxes having been beaten, raped, starved, deprived of water, made to dig their own graves... But I am thankful that they will be going home to their families. In return, Israel will be releasing thousands of Hamas supporters including a couple of hundred who are serving life sentences. Fair? The thing that does give me hope is that it's expected that Hamas has, or shortly will, agree to take no further part in the running of Palestine. The billions that have been poured into Gaza over the last couple of decades has been spent by Hamas on arms and digging tunnels. The people of Palestine could be living high on the hog right now rather than the squalor many have endured before the war, and the devastation they've endured since Hamas attacked Israel 2 years ago.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but this whole terrible time in history has returned us to a brand of Jew hate not seen since WW2 and I'm not sure that's going to go away, nor be forgiven.

[Livia]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2zNlAIX0AAo8i3?format=jpg&name=small

Isn't it, Blessed are the Cheese makers? I've seen Life of Brian...

[Vanessa]

There are only around 20 hostages alive so the rest will be going home in boxes having been beaten, raped, starved, deprived of water, made to dig their own graves... But I am thankful that they will be going home to their families. In return, Israel will be releasing thousands of Hamas supporters including a couple of hundred who are serving life sentences. Fair? The thing that does give me hope is that it's expected that Hamas has, or shortly will, agree to take no further part in the running of Palestine. The billions that have been poured into Gaza over the last couple of decades has been spent by Hamas on arms and digging tunnels. The people of Palestine could be living high on the hog right now rather than the squalor many have endured before the war, and the devastation they've endured since Hamas attacked Israel 2 years ago.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but this whole terrible time in history has returned us to a brand of Jew hate not seen since WW2 and I'm not sure that's going to go away, nor be forgiven.
Yes I don't want Hamas to run Palestine as well.
Those people have suffered enough already.

[Livia]

Yes I don't want Hamas to run Palestine as well.
Those people have suffered enough already.

Yes, they have. They deserve a new start. No one needs to be ruled and indoctrinated by a murderous regime of terrorists.

[Jessica.]

Yes, they have. They deserve a new start. No one needs to be ruled and indoctrinated by a murderous regime of terrorists.

Yeah hopefully Netanyahu resigns!

[Cherie]

Cautiously optimistic that this deal will get over the line

Say what you like about Trump he has orchestrated all this by his sheer force of nature

[Livia]

Cautiously optimistic that this deal will get over the line

Say what you like about Trump he has orchestrated all this by his sheer force of nature

And without blowing his own trumpet even once!

Let's hope this goes forward in good faith. No one wants war.

[Vanessa]

Cautiously optimistic that this deal will get over the line

Say what you like about Trump he has orchestrated all this by his sheer force of nature

I have so much respect for Trump. He gets things done.

[bots]

if this turns into reality, it will be a major step forward

[arista]

if this turns into reality, it will be a major step forward


Not until Monday
press say

[bots]

Not until Monday
press say

a lot can happen before the event

[arista]

Also this is a complex deal.


But Hamas say it will not give up its arms

[Glenn.]

Let’s hope it works. Israel have committed far too many atrocities.

[arista]

Hamas are the problem

[Glenn.]

Hamas are the problem



Gaza health authorities say over 67,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli air and ground attacks.

Israel reports about 1,665 Israelis killed (including soldiers and civilians) during the same period.

[Cherie]

Gaza health authorities say over 67,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli air and ground attacks.

Israel reports about 1,665 Israelis killed (including soldiers and civilians) during the same period.

It is not a competition in numbers, Hamas started all this on Oct 7 and never forget that poor girl they paraded tied up and bleeding from being raped in the streets to cheering crowds, she was German I believe .... and she will have been one of many who received the same treatment, killings on both sides but its like saying Ukraine started the war

[Vanessa]

It is not a competition in numbers, Hamas started all this on Oct 7 and never forget that poor girl they paraded tied up and bleeding from being raped in the streets to cheering crowds, she was German I believe .... and she will have been one of many who received the same treatment, killings on both sides but its like saying Ukraine started the war

Yes that's true. Killings on both sides. Let's hope this senseless war ends soon.

[Beso]

Gaza health authorities say over 67,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli air and ground attacks.

Israel reports about 1,665 Israelis killed (including soldiers and civilians) during the same period.

Would have been much much lower had they been allowed to leave or shelter in tunnels.

[arista]

Gaza health authorities say over 67,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli air and ground attacks.

Israel reports about 1,665 Israelis killed (including soldiers and civilians) during the same period.



Yes, but I am talking about now


Hamas will keep their weapons

[Glenn.]

It is not a competition in numbers, Hamas started all this on Oct 7 and never forget that poor girl they paraded tied up and bleeding from being raped in the streets to cheering crowds, she was German I believe .... and she will have been one of many who received the same treatment, killings on both sides but its like saying Ukraine started the war

It certainly isn’t a close competition is it.

[Cherie]

It certainly isn’t a close competition is it.

Hamas leader said last week if he got the opportunity again he would do Oct 7 over and over

If Ukraine ends up killing more Russians than Russian kills Ukranians are you going to side with Russia?

[bots]

Any published death figures during war are extremely dubious, but people know this and yet still spout it as fact

[Livia]

It is not a competition in numbers, Hamas started all this on Oct 7 and never forget that poor girl they paraded tied up and bleeding from being raped in the streets to cheering crowds, she was German I believe .... and she will have been one of many who received the same treatment, killings on both sides but its like saying Ukraine started the war

Who's runs the Palestinian Health Authority? Hamas. The USA believe their figures are unreliable and so do I.

[MTVN]

If this works then it's an incredible achievement for Trump. I'm sure it will get due credit from all those who have been marching for Palestine the last two years

[Cherie]

If this works then it's an incredible achievement for Trump. I'm sure it will get due credit from all those who have been marching for Palestine the last two years

:whistle: what will they do now on a Saturday, maybe they can March for Ukraine

[MTVN]

:whistle: what will they do now on a Saturday, maybe they can March for Ukraine

Over 150,000 deaths in Sudan last two years. Frequent massacres of Christians in Nigeria in recent years

[Livia]

:whistle: what will they do now on a Saturday, maybe they can March for Ukraine

Yes. Or Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Somalia, Boko Haram, Uganda... etc. etc...

[Nicky91]

Yes. Or Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Somalia, Boko Haram, Uganda... etc. etc...

or India?

to make an end to enormous divide between the ultra rich and the very poor, also smells like corruption and a regime tbh

[Glenn.]

Hamas leader said last week if he got the opportunity again he would do Oct 7 over and over

If Ukraine ends up killing more Russians than Russian kills Ukranians are you going to side with Russia?

No, you’re right. You should not side with a country simply because it suffers fewer or more casualties. You condemn atrocities, whoever commits them. You uphold protection for civilians, accountability, and international law.

[arista]

President Trump is now Live

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Now that there’s a peace deal, there’ll be no more appalling hate marches
through London every weekend.

Right?

[arista]

Now that there’s a peace deal, there’ll be no more appalling hate marches
through London every weekend.

Right?


Yes, but bet this Saturday,
they will.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, but bet this Saturday,
they will.

water cannon them into the gutter

[arista]

water cannon them into the gutter

Not in London

[Crimson Dynamo]

where are all the crowds celebrating this peace??????

[Cherie]

where are all the crowds celebrating this peace??????

You would have thought all those marching for the last two years would be celebrating, this is what they wanted right?

[Nicky91]

where are all the crowds celebrating this peace??????

there is no peace yet?


this is only the first step in that direction



good on the US sending soldiers to make sure the ceasefire will not be broken by either Israel or Hamas, good on Qatar, UAE, Egypt also sending soldiers

[Vanessa]

I really hope we have this peace. I wish nothing but goof things for the Palestinian people. They are so brave.

[arista]

All bombing has now ended,


IDF is withdrawing from certain areas of Gaza.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2nzlj2j4kt

[Vanessa]

All bombing has now ended,


IDF is withdrawing from certain areas of Gaza.

That's brilliant, Artists. I'm so happy.

[Jessica.]

And Israel continues the murdering.

[arista]

And Israel continues the murdering.


No, it is now halted

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Maru]

I saw a video of one of the spots where they release supplies for Palestinians in the area, how it works, etc and what struck me the most was how little pollution was in the sky... and yet we would say here they lived in the slums...

[arista]

Tragic to go back
to the destroyed Gaza.

But no more attacks

One problem with Hamas,
refuses to give up its arms

Which will mean the war could start up again?

[arista]

Senior Hamas Official
Dr. Basem Naim

Spoke to Sky News

Although no role in the Future Government
They will keep their arms

[arista]

Also he does not want Tony Blair
involved.

[arista]

In London today they are still marching, today?

Even though there is this New Deal,

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm still hugely skeptical.

[arista]

I'm still hugely skeptical.


Yes, fair enough.


President Trump will be in Israel
for Monday.


So he is making an effort

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29GFYCXkAAraB6?format=jpg&name=small

[Livia]

Irritating the BBC has reported the Israelis have "retreated" when what they've done is withdrawn. It's provocative language and shows their continued distaste and contempt. It doesn't help.

Also, will they stop Tony Blair sticking his finger in thus pie now it's come to light that he welcomed Jeffrey Epstein inside No10 while his was prime minister. He kept that very quiet. Now he surely must be treated in the sane way as Prince Andrrw.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes, fair enough.


President Trump will be in Israel
for Monday.


So he is making an effort

Yes, he is. I'll give him that.

[Ninastar]

I doubt Hamas will stick to the plan, esp now that they refuse to give up their weapons.

Hopefully the civilians will actually be given aide now instead of Hamas taking it all from theirselves

I know there’s a ‘peace plan’ but yeah… I doubt it’s going to happen

I’m hopeful though.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d78f2fdf-fed5-4995-a3f2-c6bafdb0adbd.jpeg

[arista]

As well as President Trump
in Israel, on Monday
Also, PM Starmer is flying out later today.

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨SHOCKING: Went to a ‘pro-Palestine’ march today. Within 10 minutes I was staring at
an ISIS flag - and yes, I found the man waving it. You won’t believe what he told me.

short video - https://x.com/dailysamara1/status/1977173418127819147

[Zizu]

[emoji599]SHOCKING: Went to a ‘pro-Palestine’ march today. Within 10 minutes I was staring at
an ISIS flag - and yes, I found the man waving it. You won’t believe what he told me.

short video - https://x.com/dailysamara1/status/1977173418127819147


On a side note .. she summarised by claiming that he said he wanted the jews obliterated yet he never used that word at all .. so I don’t think that’s very professional or even acceptable in her profession- she could be seen as being inflammatory


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[Glenn.]

Far right click bait

[Crimson Dynamo]

On a side note .. she summarised by claiming that he said he wanted the jews obliterated yet he never used that word at all .. so I don’t think that’s very professional or even acceptable in her profession- she could be seen as being inflammatory


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he stated he wanted all the Jews removed from Israel

whilst carrying an Isis flag.....

[Livia]

he stated he wanted all the Jews removed from Israel

whilst carrying an Isis flag.....

Lucky for him he didn't unfurl the "divisive" Union Jack.

[Vanessa]

Isis need to pipe down. Let these people coexist in peace.

[Glenn.]

You tell em!

[arista]

There is a problem.

There are possible unexploaded bombs
under the rubble.

A Security Military Expert just said.

[Beso]

Never forget the grace Israel has shown towards hamas.

https://youtu.be/o_cABLvmajo?si=UvP4HA1N8eT3kngJ

[Jessica.]

There is a problem.

There are possible unexploaded bombs
under the rubble.

A Security Military Expert just said.

So if Israel murders more people with bombs they can just lie and tell the world they were unexploded under rubble and it was out of their hands?

[Cherie]

he stated he wanted all the Jews removed from Israel

whilst carrying an Isis flag.....

its the Saudi Flag in black :laugh: cause all flags just randomly change colours

[Crimson Dynamo]

its the Saudi Flag in black :laugh: cause all flags just randomly change colours

"im not very good with history, ask someone older who knows"

these hate marches are populated by brain-dead morons who have no idea why they are there save they hate Jews

[Cherie]

"im not very good with hostory, ask someone older whop knows"

these hate marches are populated by brain-dead morons who have no idea why they are there save they hate Jews

and that is why they have not celebrated the long called for cease fire.


Ceasefire now they yelled


well you got it...

Oh

Something something two state solution.... not sure of the history I just like walking around with an ISIS flag with impunity

[Crimson Dynamo]

“A chant that we’ve been workshopping in Oxford”:
“Gaza, Gaza, make us proud,
Put the Zios in the ground.”

Bridget Phillipson has a great candidate here from yesterday’s London hate march to lead her campus antisemitism training.
Britain’s elite education.


https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/1977389672050352459

[Vanessa]

Braindead morons. Haven't they got anything better to do?

[arista]

27 killed in Gaza over Clashes


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5e551j593o

[Crimson Dynamo]

Braindead morons. Haven't they got anything better to do?

no

i blame the schools and unis

too much time on their hands doing nothing

[arista]

The First 7 Hostages
were handed to the Red Cross.
All Men.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

13 more to be released by Hamas.

Then, after that
the dead bodies.


On the alive
20 hostages hand over,
Both sides have agreed not to show them
to any press, today.

All Media.

[arista]

President, Trump
has now landed in Tel Aviv

[Ammi]

…I haven’t been home very much recently to see a lot of coverage of this…but it is a huge and very emotional moment in time/history and Trump has to be credited and praised for his part….I mean it’s been so impossible to imagine what all civilian lives have been…and now to feel that this may begin healing…just incredible and unimaginable…but so thankfully happening…

[bots]

no idea why Starmer is going there

[Maru]

God Bless the hostages. Hopefully peace is lasting but at least they are all coming home.

[arista]

no idea why Starmer is going there


It appears PM Starmer
is in Eygpt, so far

Starmer arrives in Egypt ahead of summit on Gaza plan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qnqx7znqno

[bots]

Hamas has handed over all living hostages

[Crimson Dynamo]

no idea why Starmer is going there

to try and pretend he was part of this when all he did was harm the process

[bots]

i genuinely believe that no-one other than trump could have achieved this. He received a lot of scorn but no-one else has done anything comparable in the last 50 years

[joeysteele]

I have not much time for Netanyahu or Trump.
However this is a special day and hopefully it is now the base for a more permanent peace and more secure way forward, for both Israel and the Palestinians.

Trump does definitely warrant massive credit for his important and major role in getting things to where they are today.
I've always felt Israel had the right to defend itself and now things are hopefully to settle down, perhaps the real truth of the last years will be finally revealed rather than biased reporting or from even assumptions.
Israel has to be able to live securely and without sickening threats from some organisations and even other Countries to wipe Israel out.
That is what Israel has always been up against.

There are few or even NO real winners in war.
Even here, so many hostages originally despicably taken from their life in Israel, some will not be walking out to their lives again, because their lives have been taken.
War often has very uncertain outcomes.
However, today, and again I commend President Trump for his efforts.
I hope this will lead to a lasting peace.

[Crimson Dynamo]

“A chant that we’ve been workshopping in Oxford”:
“Gaza, Gaza, make us proud,
Put the Zios in the ground.”

Bridget Phillipson has a great candidate here from yesterday’s London hate march to lead her campus antisemitism training.
Britain’s elite education.


https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/1977389672050352459

Thankfully this cretin has been identified and details handed to authorities so he will suffer the consequences of his actions

[arista]

President Trump
a few hours late, on his way to
Egypt. Who have a Gaza summit up and running

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2025/10/13/1319132703468204295/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1319132703468204295.jpg

[arista]

Great the man who was starving on all news
is home at last


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15187413/Evyatan-David-skeletal-figure-shocked-world-family-reunited.html




Both Sides agreed Not to show the 20
that were released

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2025/10/13/TELEMMGLPICT000443746626_17603554850320_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqQDfO_Li8BnuRdRCVfSGXucZep65cP_bgWtqbEQ5fF5 Q.jpeg?imwidth=620



The BBC, which consistently mistranslates “Yahud” as “Israelis” rather than
“Jews” in an apparent effort to reframe jihadism as fashionable “anti-
Zionism”, described the peace deal as a “hostage exchange”.

Much has been written about how Hamas won the propaganda war. In truth,
however, it wasn’t Hamas that achieved this global success. It was the West
that fought it for them. As the continued marches demonstrate, even if the
jihadis can be persuaded to lay down their arms, their depraved supporters in
our own societies are only just beginning.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/13/netanyahu-and-trump-have-been-vindicated/

[arista]

President Trump now arrived in
Egypt


Gaza Peace Summit


Even Nicky's PM is there

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3IG_lNWgAAnoRx?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/13/14/102922057-15187413-Evyatar_s_mother_Galia_David_previously_told_the_M ail_of_images_-a-8_1760360970250.jpg

We all watched,
the fella in the tunnel

Great he is being checked in hospital, now

[arista]

President Trump
was just live again with in Egypt
with the President/General El Si Si

[Cherie]

no idea why Starmer is going there

Or Macron,

Noses in everything that pair

[arista]

“a chant that we’ve been workshopping in oxford”:
“gaza, gaza, make us proud,
put the zios in the ground.”

bridget phillipson has a great candidate here from yesterday’s london hate march to lead her campus antisemitism training.
Britain’s elite education.


https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/1977389672050352459


1977333790071783515

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trevor is really on form

[arista]

President Trump now standing centre,
with each of the 20 nation leaders all one by one
getting their photo with him.


Egypt Gaza Peace Summit


PM Starmer got his 30 seconds with him

[Crimson Dynamo]

None of the hostages still alive was female...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3HbNtNXIAAnpKO?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Thats real sad LT

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/13/16/102948211-0-image-a-56_1760368890190.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

A former hostage revealed Hamas was "scared of Trump" and "wanted Kamala to be elected."

Today's release happened because the terrorists knew what was coming.

God bless President Trump, and pray for lasting peace!

https://x.com/CollinsforTX/status/1977735574401261839

thank God the great American people did not vote that clueless hag into power

[MTVN]

1977801802210017708

🫣

[Oliver_W]

1977801802210017708

🫣

Haha! The "20 minutes notice" thing was sly, making it clear Starmer had nothing to do with it.

"It's very nice that you're here."

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/13/18/102951259-0-image-a-24_1760374837951.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15188313/Hostage-sweethearts-Romeo-Juliet-reunited-Israeli-special-forces.html

[Maru]

I have not much time for Netanyahu or Trump.
However this is a special day and hopefully it is now the base for a more permanent peace and more secure way forward, for both Israel and the Palestinians.

Trump does definitely warrant massive credit for his important and major role in getting things to where they are today.
I've always felt Israel had the right to defend itself and now things are hopefully to settle down, perhaps the real truth of the last years will be finally revealed rather than biased reporting or from even assumptions.
Israel has to be able to live securely and without sickening threats from some organisations and even other Countries to wipe Israel out.
That is what Israel has always been up against.

There are few or even NO real winners in war.
Even here, so many hostages originally despicably taken from their life in Israel, some will not be walking out to their lives again, because their lives have been taken.
War often has very uncertain outcomes.
However, today, and again I commend President Trump for his efforts.
I hope this will lead to a lasting peace.

100% agree

[bots]

i don't think Trump is well, maybe he was tired after the last week and he bounces back

[Ammi]

i don't think Trump is well, maybe he was tired after the last week and he bounces back

…oh, he looks so exhausted atm…I mean, I know that goes with the job role demands as well…but he really does look very exhausted….

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c7f625cb-5df9-4a94-b735-e110a140b972.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c813340a-f31d-4984-a6e2-70bb361162a5.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9b83dd2f-52ba-4c48-91bb-336a8a5cf9df.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e277a1ce-fcd9-4428-bf10-4574c39149ef.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cd306399-77ed-468a-8b3d-05699a949c18.jpeg

[arista]

Owen Jones now Live on GMBHD itv

Just came back,
from the west bank

No wanting Blair in this deal


And a defence analyst
backing Blair.

[arista]

There are still problems,
as at this time
Hamas is still the official government.

Until the next official general election
there.

[Beso]

Amazing how all those starving people managed to get out onto the street to celebrate the release of the Hamas prisoners.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well done Starmer :clap2:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3JUQahXEAEqHP3?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

6 Men Shot Dead Early today
as they stupidly croseed the Line


[The Israeli military has said it carried out
a shooting after "several suspects" crossed the line
of withdrawal and approached forces operating
in the northern Gaza Strip area.]


https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-hostages-israel-hamas-war-latest-release-palestinian-prisoners-sky-news-live-13443931

[Maru]

1977801802210017708

🫣

It doesn't look like they like each other very much.

[emseateng2014]

history in the making folks lol

[Gusto Brunt]

Didn't Trump say today he is considering bombing Hamas if they don't give up their weapons pretty soon.

How long did that 'peace' last???

[arista]

Didn't Trump say today he is considering bombing Hamas if they don't give up their weapons pretty soon.

How long did that 'peace' last???


President Trump has not made it clear.


Hamas Executed 8 men
shot in their back of their Heads
in the Public Square


They are Still in power
Trump has not changed the Power

Warning : moment before death is on this Link
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/hamas-brutally-executes-8-gazans-on-camera-amid-donald-trumps-disarm-warning-9458416

[arista]

[Hamas Reasserts Control In Gaza

As the Gaza ceasefire holds, Hamas security forces
have returned to the streets,
clashing with other armed groups,
killing people they labelled gangsters
in what is seen as the group's attempt
to restore control where Israeli troops
have withdrawn.
In the north of the territory,
the Hamas government's black-masked
armed police have resumed street patrols
after Israeli forces withdrew from Gaza City.]

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3KfodzXgAAKVVD?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bf41671f-83f7-497e-bacd-282d7f89960f.png

[Gusto Brunt]

President Trump has not made it clear.


Hamas Executed 8 men
shot in their back of their Heads
in the Public Square


They are Still in power
Trump has not changed the Power

Warning : moment before death is on this Link
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/hamas-brutally-executes-8-gazans-on-camera-amid-donald-trumps-disarm-warning-9458416

I heard him say it, he's gonna deal with Hamas if they don't hand in all their weapons. It can only mean one thing, bombing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lefties' silence is deafening

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3PIApdXsAA_pLe?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

I heard him say it, he's gonna deal with Hamas if they don't hand in all their weapons. It can only mean one thing, bombing.


Yes I heard him as well


No plans given

[arista]

Tragic Hamas
staying the same

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1d516c4f-a8d9-45de-a490-536fedef32f1.jpeg

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes I heard him as well


No plans given

OK

[Beso]

Lefties' silence is deafening

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3PIApdXsAA_pLe?format=jpg&name=small

Was just about to post that.


Lets hope everyone's happy that Palestine is free
:wavey:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Was just about to post that.


Lets hope everyone's happy that Palestine is free
:wavey:

Did you see what that cuck Owen Jones posted today?

He has genuinely lost it

[Beso]

Did you see what that cuck Owen Jones posted today?

He has genuinely lost it

Ewwww. No.

[Maru]

Tragic Hamas
staying the same

We are negotiating with terrorists. They were never going to change.

[Glenn.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3KfodzXgAAKVVD?format=jpg&name=900x900

Where is his gunshot scar?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Every Hollywood Actor When They Found Out About The Ceasefire in Gaza

:joker:

https://x.com/francisjfoster/status/1979149184197444026

[arista]

Where is his gunshot scar?

Can not be seen at that angle and light

[Glenn.]

Can not be seen at that angle and light

You can literally see his whole ear :joker:

And no scar…

[Livia]

Every Hollywood Actor When They Found Out About The Ceasefire in Gaza

:joker:

https://x.com/francisjfoster/status/1979149184197444026

LOL... It's funny because it's true.

[Glenn.]

Eleven members of one family have been wiped out after Israel attacked a vehicle in Gaza City’s Zeitoun for allegedly crossing the so-called “yellow line”, demarcating areas of Israeli army control. Israel has killed 28 people since the ceasefire went into effect.

[Glenn.]

So anyway.

Israel killing 28 Palestinians including very young children. Nothing on that?

[Glenn.]

Among those who have been killed from the family are 10-year-old, six-year-old, five-year-old, and eight-year-old Palestinian children.

[Glenn.]

Thought so

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the last two weeks.

Jews murdered in Manchester for going to a synagogue

Jews banned from entering Birmingham to see a match

Jews arrested in London for wearing a star of David

This is the UK in 2025.

And NOBODY in the LEFT wing LABOUR government wants to name those causing the problem.

[OnTheRight]

In the last two weeks.

Jews murdered in Manchester for going to a synagogue

Jews banned from entering Birmingham to see a match

Jews arrested in London for wearing a star of David

This is the UK in 2025.

And NOBODY in the LEFT wing LABOUR government wants to name those causing the problem.

Apartheid UK

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apartheid UK

its getting worse

[Beso]

Eleven members of one family have been wiped out after Israel attacked a vehicle in Gaza City’s Zeitoun for allegedly crossing the so-called “yellow line”, demarcating areas of Israeli army control. Israel has killed 28 people since the ceasefire went into effect.

Hamas have killed more.

[Glenn.]

lol

[Glenn.]

Israel has violated ceasefire 47 times and killed 38 Palestinians, says Gaza media office
Authorities urge UN to intervene ‘to protect unarmed civilian populations’ after attack on bus that killed 11



Authorities in Gaza called on “the United Nations and the guarantor parties of the agreement to intervene urgently to compel the occupation to end its ongoing aggression and to protect unarmed civilian populations”.

Benjamin Netanyahu meanwhile said the Rafah crossing – a crucial entry point for aid – would only reopen after Hamas hands over the bodies of all deceased hostages still held in Gaza.

“Prime Minister Netanyahu has directed that the Rafah crossing remain closed until further notice,” a statement from his office on Saturday read. “Its reopening will be considered based on how Hamas fulfils its obligations to return the hostages and the bodies of the deceased, and to implement the agreed-upon terms.”

Hamas later said it would hand over two more bodies of Israeli hostages on Saturday, at 10pm local time (7pm GMT).

Eleven members of a Palestinian family were killed by Israeli forces on Friday, described as the deadliest single violation of the fragile ceasefire since it took effect eight days ago. Gaza’s civil defence agency said the family were trying to reach their home in the Zeitoun neighbourhood of Gaza City when the bus they were in was attacked for allegedly crossing the “yellow line” that demarcates areas of Israeli army control.

“They had crossed the so-called ‘yellow line’, an imaginary boundary mentioned by the Israeli army,” said Mahmoud Basal, the spokesperson for the Gaza civil defence. “I am certain the family couldn’t distinguish between the yellow and red lines because there are no actual physical markers on the ground.”

Footage released by Gaza’s civil defence agency show the bodies of the family during the retrieval mission in conjunction with the UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. The victims include seven children and three women.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said a “suspicious vehicle was identified crossing the yellow line and approaching IDF troops operating in the northern Gaza Strip”, adding: “The troops fired warning shots toward the suspicious vehicle, but the vehicle continued to approach the troops in a way that caused an imminent threat to them. The troops opened fire to remove the threat, in accordance with the agreement.”

Israel and Hamas have continued to trade blame over breaches of the truce. Israel accused the militant group of violating the ceasefire agreement by failing to return the remains of deceased hostages. On Monday, Hamas returned the last 20 surviving hostages but has handed back only 10 of 28 deceased captives, saying it would need specialist recovery equipment to retrieve the rest from the ruins of Gaza.

Turkey has deployed dozens of disaster relief specialists to help search for bodies under the rubble. Efforts to recover bodies over a week into the ceasefire continue, with the Palestinian death toll now above 68,000, according to Gaza’s health ministry.

Gaza’s civil defence agency estimates that the bodies of about 10,000 people are trapped under the debris and collapsed buildings. The task ahead of the rescuers is immense given that there is an estimated 60m tonnes of rubble across the territory.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israel has violated ceasefire 47 times and killed 38 Palestinians, says Gaza media office
Authorities urge UN to intervene ‘to protect unarmed civilian populations’ after attack on bus that killed 11


.

googled this

From the Guardian activist MSM site and guess what...


says Gaza media office

YCNMIU

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/18/israel-has-violated-ceasefire-47-times-and-killed-38-palestinians-says-gaza-media-office

oh dear

[Livia]

In the last two weeks.

Jews murdered in Manchester for going to a synagogue

Jews banned from entering Birmingham to see a match

Jews arrested in London for wearing a star of David

This is the UK in 2025.

And NOBODY in the LEFT wing LABOUR government wants to name those causing the problem.

I'm sure they'd feel better if we all wore a Star of David, a yellow one, stitched on.

[Livia]

Hamas have carried out attacks on the IDF, beyond the "yellow line". Not on the BBC yet because they haven't managed to spin this...

[Crimson Dynamo]

:think:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3ktUOYXkAANjam?format=png&name=medium

[arista]

Hamas have carried out attacks on the IDF, beyond the "yellow line". Not on the BBC yet because they haven't managed to spin this...

Yes Reported on GBnewsHD Live

[OnTheRight]

Shouldn't of agreed to a ceasefire, should had just wiped the whole of Palestine off the face of the earth.

[Glenn.]

:umm2:

[Nicky91]

Shouldn't of agreed to a ceasefire, should had just wiped the whole of Palestine off the face of the earth.

:umm2:

more or less these were the same thoughts the nazi's used to have back in WW2


i'm disgusted to be reading comments like these on this forum, makes me question wether or not i'm still on a respectful forum :(

[OnTheRight]

:umm2:

more or less these were the same thoughts the nazi's used to have back in WW2


i'm disgusted to be reading comments like these on this forum, makes me question wether or not i'm still on a respectful forum :(

What country were they trying to wipe off the face of the earth?

Would you like a tissue?

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3c7cdeb1-4d7c-4251-b5de-88bc67efbac1.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4f8b584d-eecb-41a1-82c6-ded57b1b2f3c.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-69878e86-408d-42d4-8585-92274e24b42a.jpeg

[Ninastar]

None of the hostages still alive was female...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3HbNtNXIAAnpKO?format=jpg&name=small

I’m so thankful the hostages were released but this is something that should be highlighted more than it should be. Not one female hostage was allowed to live. I dread to think of the torture and pain they went through before dying.

This whole situation sucks and honestly no one wins. I knew hamas would not stay true to their word. Very interesting seeing how the media is treating this

[Livia]

I remember the face of the girl dragged into Gaza from the music festival on the back of a motorbike. She was stripped naked, whipped through the streets in front of "innocent" Palestinians who were cheering and jeering as she was beaten. They think she was probably beaten to death, they only found bits of her body. The Hamas Press Office never mentioned this so the BBC never reported it.

[Beso]

It's gone very quiet.

[arista]

It's gone very quiet.


Sadly Hamas
refuse to lay down their arms.

So this War is still going on.

[Nicky91]

Sadly Hamas
refuse to lay down their arms.

So this War is still going on.

those were rebels, not Hamas

even said so by Trump


Israel on the other hand, again killed 33 people in Gaza

[arista]

But all Hamas
have refused to lay down their arms

Trump is ignoring that

[Livia]

Hamas still executing people in front of cheering crowds, are they? Or was that rebels, do we think? The west's Left have been radicalised, the terrorists must be ecstatic.

[Nicky91]

Hamas still executing people in front of cheering crowds, are they? Or was that rebels, do we think? The west's Left have been radicalised, the terrorists must be ecstatic.

VseI0-xgnYA

true, that was Hamas yes, what palestinians have said



wonder why Trump hasn't responded about that yet though, considering even if ur technically not attacking israel, publicly executing your own civilians in Gaza is also kinda against the desire for peace

[OnTheRight]

Israel on the other hand, again killed 33 people in Gaza

Is that all? :shrug:

[emseateng2014]

the great war begins again or is it still goes on

[Beso]

Hamas dragging people into the street and breaking their arms and legs with bricks, boulders and bats as crowds cheer.

Their crime?
Being caught on camera thanking trump for the humanitarian aid.

[arista]

Sadly,
due to Hamas killing some IDF

Israel has started, Bombing Gaza again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c891ex72nj7t

[emseateng2014]

trump got conned

[Livia]

Three more bodies handed over by Hamas that have turned out not to be hostages at all.

[Livia]

Hamas dragging people into the street and breaking their arms and legs with bricks, boulders and bats as crowds cheer.

Their crime?
Being caught on camera thanking trump for the humanitarian aid.


It's amusing the supporters of Palestine have nothing to say about this despicable act. Their radicalisation is complete.

[DemRed]

Yes. Or Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Somalia, Boko Haram, Uganda... etc. etc...

We don't have a government who is funding Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Somalia, Boko Harem and Uganda. We are however funding Israel via Lockheed Martin.

[DemRed]

It's amusing the supporters of Palestine have nothing to say about this despicable act. Their radicalisation is complete.

Because its a lie that is being spread by Israel and most of the world knows it.

[Beso]

Because its a lie that is being spread by Israel and most of the world knows it.

What's a lie?

[Livia]

We don't have a government who is funding Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Somalia, Boko Harem and Uganda. We are however funding Israel via Lockheed Martin.

We, the UK, send all those regimes money.

[Livia]

Because its a lie that is being spread by Israel and most of the world knows it.

It is documented on film. No one believes this isn't happening except those who support Hamas.

[DemRed]

We, the UK, send all those regimes money.

Apart from Boko Harem, we send humanitarian relief to the countries mentioned.
To Boko Harem, we send military advisories.
To Israel, we send weapon components and military equipment. We also enable export licenses for UK weapon companies to supply components used in the manufacture of Israeli drones, F-35 fighter jets and other military equipment.

[DemRed]

It is documented on film. No one believes this isn't happening except those who support Hamas.

And it's also been debunked. Hamas had clashes with the Dughmush clan and other rival armed groups and alleged criminals who have been steeling food and selling it at exhorbeftent prices to the starving Palestinian people. It's true that Hamas did execute Israeli collaborators but to suggest they were just run of the mill civilians is a long stretch.

Any news coming out of Israel or MSM in the UK, needs a deep dive.

‘You must support Hamas’ is a common trope thrown out by those who support the mass killing and starvation of civilians. Whilst Israel supporters can say people like me are vermin, our enemy and anti the West, that’s fine but if I say the UK shouldn’t support what Israel is doing, I’m the irredeemable, reprehensible and an antisemitic Hamas supporter... Just Stop!

[Beso]

What about Hamas beating local shop owners for not accepting the worthless currency

Or the beating and breaking of arms and legs of people caught on camera thanking USA for the aid.


Or sky news live reporting from a bombed building where a little old lady walks past in the background carrying 2 breeze blocks in one hand.

[Livia]

Apart from Boko Harem, we send humanitarian relief to the countries mentioned.
To Boko Harem, we send military advisories.
To Israel, we send weapon components and military equipment. We also enable export licenses for UK weapon companies to supply components used in the manufacture of Israeli drones, F-35 fighter jets and other military equipment.

Boko Haram is a terrorist outfit in Nigeria. We send Nigeria money. And none of those places we send money to would ever use that money for anything other than aid, would they. They'd never spend it on AKs. That's never happened. Has it.

We trade with lots of countries. They buy armaments from us. You really don't have a handle on the simple stuff.

You've not been around since May. Did you come back just to talk to me? You shouldn't have bothered.

[Livia]

And it's also been debunked. Hamas had clashes with the Dughmush clan and other rival armed groups and alleged criminals who have been steeling food and selling it at exhorbeftent prices to the starving Palestinian people. It's true that Hamas did execute Israeli collaborators but to suggest they were just run of the mill civilians is a long stretch.

Any news coming out of Israel or MSM in the UK, needs a deep dive.

‘You must support Hamas’ is a common trope thrown out by those who support the mass killing and starvation of civilians. Whilst Israel supporters can say people like me are vermin, our enemy and anti the West, that’s fine but if I say the UK shouldn’t support what Israel is doing, I’m the irredeemable, reprehensible and an antisemitic Hamas supporter... Just Stop!

Tell someone who has time for your propaganda-loving, hand-wringing, terrorist-supporting, deeply muddled opinions. That person is not me.

[DemRed]

Boko Haram is a terrorist outfit in Nigeria. We send Nigeria money. And none of those places we send money to would ever use that money for anything other than aid, would they. They'd never spend it on AKs. That's never happened. Has it.

We trade with lots of countries. They buy armaments from us. You really don't have a handle on the simple stuff.

You've not been around since May. Did you come back just to talk to me? You shouldn't have bothered.

Nah, you're the last person I want to talk to. I mean, why would I want to talk to a person who fully supports a baby killing terrorist government! to talk to you would be to have a discussion and in all the years I've been on and off here, I've never seen you discuss anything with more than a two liner that often carries racism (funny but not surprising how you get away with that) and personal put downs.
That said, I will quote your nonsense now and again because to be frank, it energises me!

[Livia]

Nah, you're the last person I want to talk to. I mean, why would I want to talk to a person who fully supports a baby killing terrorist government! to talk to you would be to have a discussion and in all the years I've been on and off here, I've never seen you discuss anything with more than a two liner that often carries racism (funny but not surprising how you get away with that) and personal put downs.
That said, I will quote your nonsense now and again because to be frank, it energises me!

And yet, here you are trying to converse. And your whole post is about me , not one word on topic.

[Beso]

More left wing hypocrisy.