Feyisola bringing up the race card

[Benjamin]

How do you feel about that?

[Ray.]

She's dumb :shrug:

[Vanessa]

That really annoyed me. There was no need

[Jordan.]

Unfair on Cameron

[jones89]

Just another strike for her.. quickly becoming insufferable tbh

[Vicky.]

Total dickhead move. Not surprising from her tho given what we have seen so far..victim complex

[storybrooke]

Constantly offended by everything is getting irritating

[Swan]

Beyond pathetic

[Barry.]

Not fair, and I think she thinks it will make people question Cameron on the outside

[Beso]

We all knew it was coming.

[Beso]

She needs to appreciate who provides her tofu and muesli a bit more.

[Conzors]

I guess to us it may seem a bit like wtf but I will never know what it’s like to live as a black woman so it’s hard for me understand why she feels like that

[Beso]

Taking off the hat to reveal her vulnerable bald side half way through the Cameron B incident as well.

[Swan]

Her, and some of the other HM's reactions was this BB in a nutshell

[Kate!]

It was a ridiculous/spiteful thing to say. Poor Cameron. I can't stand this woman.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One did warn one

https://archivetvmusings.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/good1.jpg?w=1018

[bots]

Cameron thinking, i only tried to put my tatties back .....

[rusticgal]

It’s just so pathetic.

…and who does Zaleh think he is not allowing people in the snug?…

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Wasn't needed. She was reaching.

[Benjamin]

It’s just so pathetic.

…and who does Zaleh think he is not allowing people in the snug?…

I didn’t agree with Zelah’s handling but also unsure why Cam B felt he had the right to be involved.

[Beso]

I didn’t agree with Zelah’s handling but also unsure why Cam B felt he had the right to be involved.

He's not sat in nandos looking over at table 5, hes in the bb house fgs. If course hes got the right to get involved.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s just so pathetic.

…and who does Zaleh think he is

https://researchthemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/react.gif

[Benjamin]

He's not sat in nandos looking over at table 5, hes in the bb house fgs. If course hes got the right to get involved.

He has no right to be involved.

[Beso]

He has no right to be involved.

He has every right to walk into the shed/snug:shrug:


No?

[Benjamin]

He has every right to walk into the shed/snug:shrug:


No?

He does if he wanted to sit there but he wanted to be involved in the conversation. That he had no right on.

[Beso]

He does if he wanted to sit there but he wanted to be involved in the conversation. That he had no right on.

He had every right to walk in and ask why everyone else who wernt involved in the fall out were allowed to be in the discussion.

N that's exactly what he did


Kudos to him. In my opinion.

[Benjamin]

He had every right to walk in and ask why everyone else who wernt involved in the fall out were allowed to be in the discussion.

N that's exactly what he did


Kudos to him. In my opinion.

Nah. He just hated not being involved as he has to be involved in everything. And luckily he’s out now so it’s the last we’ll see of him.

Anyway back to the topic, Feyisola has just destroyed any chance she may have had of winning/surviving an eviction

[Benjamin]

Interesting that this wasn’t brought up on L&L

[Mystic Mock]

How do you feel about that?

In this particular scenario it was pathetic.

Nothing racist was even said.

[Beso]

Nah. He just hated not being involved as he has to be involved in everything. And luckily he’s out now so it’s the last we’ll see of him.

Anyway back to the topic, Feyisola has just destroyed any chance she may have had of winning/surviving an eviction

A baldy black woman has zero chance of winning. So she's not there for the money(unless shes deluded)shes there for awareness.

[Benjamin]

A baldy black woman has zero chance of winning. So she's not there for the money(unless shes deluded)shes there for awareness.

We’ll be stuck with her for at least two more weeks now as next week is a fake eviction.

[Mystic Mock]

I guess to us it may seem a bit like wtf but I will never know what it’s like to live as a black woman so it’s hard for me understand why she feels like that

Feyisola knows that the word barking isn't racist.

She's using the race card to harm Cameron's chances, whilst she thinks it will improve her own chances.

She's also hoping that people in the house will be too scared to question her bullshit, which they certainly will be too scared after last night's eviction result.

I understand that your heart's in the right place, but Feyisola is someone not worth trying to understand when she's behaving like an absolute moron.

And it was rude of her to isolate a handful of Housemates from the chat, which she failed to acknowledge in the argument.

[Kate!]

Feyisola knows that the word barking isn't racist.

She's using the race card to harm Cameron's chances, whilst she thinks it will improve her own chances.

She's also hoping that people in the house will be too scared to question her bullshit, which they certainly will be too scared after last night's eviction result.

I understand that your heart's in the right place, but Feyisola is someone not worth trying to understand when she's behaving like an absolute moron.

And it was rude of her to isolate a handful of Housemates from the chat, which she failed to acknowledge in the argument.

A very very good post.

[Mystic Mock]

It’s just so pathetic.

…and who does Zaleh think he is not allowing people in the snug?…

He is Feyisola's guard dog.

[Beso]

We’ll be stuck with her for at least two more weeks now as next week is a fake eviction.

Good luck to her.

But she has no chance of winning. She will get her msg out though. So the itv bosses can tick that box off.

[Mystic Mock]

Nah. He just hated not being involved as he has to be involved in everything. And luckily he’s out now so it’s the last we’ll see of him.

Anyway back to the topic, Feyisola has just destroyed any chance she may have had of winning/surviving an eviction

Cameron B was right that Feyisola was singling the people in the bedroom out, my theory is that it was to let the Housemates in the shed know who to nominate this week coming up.

[BBDodge]

The Angry Black Woman has become a stereotype in reality TV.

Feyisola interpreted the word "bark" in a negative manner.

Last year Hanah also got upset at Khaled for making her out to be aggressive:

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbuk/video/7424438408136723745

[Mystic Mock]

We’ll be stuck with her for at least two more weeks now as next week is a fake eviction.

:bawling:

[Mystic Mock]

A very very good post.

Thanks Kate.:dance:

[Beso]

The Angry Black Woman has become a stereotype in reality TV.

Feyisola interpreted the word "bark" in a negative manner.

Last year Hanah also got upset at Khaled for making her out to be aggressive:

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbuk/video/7424438408136723745



As has the angry white male.


BB and itv take advantage of that.

[Niamh.]

I guess to us it may seem a bit like wtf but I will never know what it’s like to live as a black woman so it’s hard for me understand why she feels like thatTbf though, "barking at someone" just means someone snapped at you, its so not racial, wtaf?? Bad form to try and paint CamK a racist when he's clearly not at all and I love Teja but not at all impressed at her fueling that.

[Swan]

Tbf though, "barking at someone" just means someone snapped at you, its so not racial, wtaf?? Bad form to try and paint CamK a racist when he's clearly not at all and I love Teja but not at all impressed at her fueling that.

He didn't even want the potatoes, seems they were forced on him, then she got arsey when he said he didn't want them. Remember, Cam has said he wants to try and lose a bit of weight in the house. But did they give a toss about his feelings? Did they sh!te.

[Niamh.]

He didn't even want the potatoes, seems they were forced on him, then she got arsey when he said he didn't want them. Remember, Cam has said he wants to try and lose a bit of weight in the house. But did they give a toss about his feelings? Did they sh!te.And honestly, as an Irish person I could get in on the demolish Camk bus for him rejecting potatoes. . . .

But really Jenny actually did explain why CamK said and did that but they ignored the plausible reasoning to try and make Feysola the victim.

[Swan]

And honestly, as an Irish person I could get in on the demolish Camk bus for him rejecting potatoes. . . .

But really Jenny actually did explain why CamK said and did that but they ignored the plausible reasoning to try and make Feysola the victim.

True :joker:

Yes, they were unbearable, and the same kinda people who call others "snowflakes" if they give an opinion on something they don't agree with.

[Maru]

And honestly, as an Irish person I could get in on the demolish Camk bus for him rejecting potatoes. . . .

But really Jenny actually did explain why CamK said and did that but they ignored the plausible reasoning to try and make Feysola the victim.

You'd love Thanksgiving. I think we just find every way to enjoy potatos. (including sweet potatos)

[Niamh.]

You'd love Thanksgiving. I think we just find every way to enjoy potatos. (including sweet potatos)Lol, you've ruined that for me now. I was an aupair when I was 18, in Boston, I made a really great friend, an Australian girl (still friends almost 30 years later!) But she was aupairing for a Jewish family (who were absolutely lovely btw and looked after me so much when things went sour with the family I was staying with) however back to the story, the first time I had dinner with them involved sweet potatoes and they laughed so much at my reaction to eating them ....awful Awful

[Maru]

Lol, you've ruined that for me now. I was an aupair when I was 18, in Boston, I made a really great friend, an Australian girl (still friends almost 30 years later!) But she was aupairing for a Jewish family (who were absolutely lovely btw and looked after me so much when things went sour with the family I was staying with) however back to the story, the first time I had dinner with them involved sweet potatoes and they laughed so much at my reaction to eating them ....awful Awful

:laugh:

Sweet potatoes get a mixed reaction here also, I think. Some do like them but only when they're in candied form, ie butter+cinnamon. A common desert is something like mashed sweet potato with brown sugar, raisins, pecans/walnuts, etc.

[Niamh.]

:laugh:

Sweet potatoes get a mixed reaction here also, I think. Some do like them but only when they're in candied form, ie butter+cinnamon. A common desert is something like mashed sweet potato with brown sugar, raisins, pecans/walnuts, etc.

This is NOT the Irish way :oh:

[Maru]

This is NOT the Irish way :oh:

Me with my potatos on Thanksgiving:

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[Maru]

Caught up-ish. I'm at the part where Cameron is being a twat.

I'm glad the house divide is like "NO!!! WE REFUSE TO BE DIVIDED!"... this is the way.gif

"You got upset at me because–" "NO WE ARE FRIENDS. DEAL WITH IT"

[Niamh.]

Me with my potatos on Thanksgiving:



https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMnZheGRuNHNyeWZtemkxcHFybXZ6MXl obXcybjhsOXhpczcyaXVvaSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjd D1n/hUtaohU1UdG7K/giphy.gifIf your hat was a person :worry:

[vesavius]

How do you feel about that?

She's the worst. I intensely dislike her and her little smug self superior judgemental court of arselickers.

Fey, the word 'bark' is not rude, you actually barking at people is rude.

"not tyring the gatekeep the food"... That's exactly what you did.

And playing the race card over it while squeezing a tear out... Awful woman. Every stereotypical cliche of the modern progressive rolled into one. A virtue bully.

All the following 'too soon to talk to her' bullshit as well.. Good grief.

[Ammi]

…yeah, I mean…yeah, that wasn’t good at all…there is a lot of Fey that I’m finding difficult atm and she seems to be struggling also…

[Ammi]

:laugh:

Sweet potatoes get a mixed reaction here also, I think. Some do like them but only when they're in candied form, ie butter+cinnamon. A common desert is something like mashed sweet potato with brown sugar, raisins, pecans/walnuts, etc.

This is NOT the Irish way :oh:

…:laugh:…can we please all stop triggering Niamh…there is an angry Irish woman stereotype when sweet potatoes are brought into the conversation…for the love of God, have we not progressed…

[Vanessa]

She's pathetic. Awful woman. We need more newbies to challenge her group

[Mystic Mock]

The Angry Black Woman has become a stereotype in reality TV.

Feyisola interpreted the word "bark" in a negative manner.

Last year Hanah also got upset at Khaled for making her out to be aggressive:

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbuk/video/7424438408136723745

The only thing that I'll say (and I didn't agree with Khaled calling Hanah aggressive last year) is Feyisola was kinda being authoritarian (which is even worse than aggressive in my view) and what if a black woman is ever aggressive on Big Brother, are Housemates not allowed to call it out?

Some common sense does need to come back into modern BB.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf though, "barking at someone" just means someone snapped at you, its so not racial, wtaf?? Bad form to try and paint CamK a racist when he's clearly not at all and I love Teja but not at all impressed at her fueling that.

Teja unfortunately just parrots whatever Feyisola says.

[Jessica.]

Poc/black women get dehumanised all the time, Cameron did nothing wrong but Feyisola has a right to be upset too, it looked like it brought up difficult feelings or memories from her past. She even told Cameron it wasn't what he did and that her reaction was from trauma. I think Caroline was way more problematic in the episode.

[Jessica.]

Teja unfortunately just parrots whatever Feyisola says.

Not true at all, she's very mature and intelligent, she can speak for herself.

[Mystic Mock]

Not true at all, she's very mature and intelligent, she can speak for herself.

I have no doubt that she's got those qualities to a point.

But I do think that her age is showing where Feyisola is concerned.

I don't know what Zelah's excuse is for being Feyisola's lapdog though, but he is costing himself the Show by being in that toxic double act.

[Oliver_W]

He is Feyisola's guard dog.

That's a microaggession because "dog" is often used as an insult towards women, so you're invading his transition :nono:

[Beso]

Woof.

[ebandit]

fey is barking mad..................

Mark L

[MTVN]

I really feel the whole 'microaggression' thing has gone too far now so that people are constantly reading meaning into things when it isn't there. I understand that sometimes things have racial connotations and we need to be mindful of that but now people are over interpreting things to the nth degree so that almost anything can be a microaggression. It's becoming counterproductive, both from the perspective of people feeling unnecessarily offended and also from the damage it does to ordinary well-meaning people who are suddenly accused of covert racism

[MTVN]

Even Reddit is fully against Feyisola which is quite a shock!

[Benjamin]

Even Reddit is fully against Feyisola which is quite a shock!

Oh interesting. Yeah she’ll be out as soon as she’s up.

[Ray.]

Even Reddit is fully against Feyisola which is quite a shock!

Now THAT is a turn up for the books. :think: Quite the unexpected development.

[Vicky.]

Oh interesting. Yeah she’ll be out as soon as she’s up.

Probably not with vts unless it's a head to head

[Niamh.]

Poc/black women get dehumanised all the time, Cameron did nothing wrong but Feyisola has a right to be upset too, it looked like it brought up difficult feelings or memories from her past. She even told Cameron it wasn't what he did and that her reaction was from trauma. I think Caroline was way more problematic in the episode.

No she doesn't have a right to be upset. Trying to paint someone as a racist when they're clearly not is a nasty, irresponsible thing to do

[Gusto Brunt]

She's dumb :shrug:

She managed to make it all about race when all Cameron said was she was barking at him. Loads of people use that expression. Even my mum says it.

Crazy overeaction.

[OnTheRight]

She is vile.

[Lostie!]

Using terms that suggest aggression from black women when no aggression was presented has long been a contentious issue. Cameron of course didn't intend it in this way but Feyisola likely has a lived experience which makes her reactive to this kind of stuff. Because let's be honest, she didn't bark or shout.

That said, I wish she'd have not said "especially towards a black woman" behind his back because that made it seem like she was trying to paint him as racist when he evidently isn't, she should have waited to discuss it with him one on one and explained why she responded so emotionally to what he said. I was disappointed in what she said but I understood where it came from.

But I've no doubt the people who've been waiting for a reason to hate her will be holding onto this long after she and Cameron have made amends.

[vesavius]

Because let's be honest, she didn't bark or shout.

Show me how you know this, past wanting it to be true.

[Lostie!]

Show me how you know this, past wanting it to be true.

I'm commenting on the scene we saw on TV, as everyone else is :shrug:

[Livia]

Plays the race card, fat-shames someone. Typical day in the BB house.

[vesavius]

I'm commenting on the scene we saw on TV, as everyone else is :shrug:

Then you don't know, ok I see. You just sounded like agreeing that she didn't bark was the 'honest' position is all and that her not doing so was a fact.

I trust Cameron over her, tbh. He has proven himself far less willing to emotionally control and manipulate others. In fact, he has been nothing but honest throughout this.

Also, can I ask...

But I've no doubt the people who've been waiting for a reason to hate her will be holding onto this long after she and Cameron have made amends.

Why were people people, in your opinion, 'waiting to hate her'?

[Lostie!]

Then you don't know, ok I see. You just sounded like agreeing that she didn't bark was the 'honest' position is all and that her not doing so was a fact.

Also, can I ask...



Why were people people, in your opinion, 'waiting to hate her'?

What's the point you're attempting to make? That even though we didn't see her "bark" and that nobody other than Cameron has said she did, we should assume she did regardless? Even though we saw the very scene in question?

And the people waiting to hate her are the ones who yell "WOKE! WOKE!" at the drop of a hat at anybody who makes no secret of their liberal values. No, I wasn't suggesting anybody was racist but I know that's what you're getting at

[Livia]

Maybe she should wake up to the fact that most people who dislike her, dislike her because she's not nice. It has nothing to do with what colour she is. But then, she has so few weapons in her armoury. I liked her to start with. Now, she can leave any time for me.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The Angry Black Woman has become a stereotype in reality TV.

Feyisola interpreted the word "bark" in a negative manner.

Last year Hanah also got upset at Khaled for making her out to be aggressive:

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbuk/video/7424438408136723745

In general Latina women are seen as fiery, so are Italian women and it's seen as endearing when they are "passionate" but black women it's aggressive. So I know where this pain comes from but in this instance Miss morality gendarme was reaching.

[Livia]

What's the point you're attempting to make? That even though we didn't see her "bark" and that nobody other than Cameron has said she did, we should assume she did regardless? Even though we saw the very scene in question?

And the people waiting to hate her are the ones who yell "WOKE! WOKE!" at the drop of a hat at anybody who makes no secret of their liberal values. No, I wasn't suggesting anybody was racist but I know that's what you're getting at

You weren't suggesting anyone was racist? Are you sure about that? Because that's definitely what it looks like.

[vesavius]

What's the point you're attempting to make? That even though we didn't see her "bark" and that nobody other than Cameron has said she did, we should assume she did regardless? Even though we saw the very scene in question?

I will try and make it clearer for you. You said;

Because let's be honest, she didn't bark...


The implication is that the honest position is to believe her, which I think is nonsense.

I trust Cameron's interpretation far far more based on how they have been in that house. He has in no way shown himself to be manipulative or having an agenda to push.

Also, barking and shouting are not the same thing. He didn't say that she shouted.


What'sAnd the people waiting to hate her are the ones who yell "WOKE! WOKE!" at the drop of a hat. No, I wasn't suggesting anybody was racist but I know that's what you're getting at

Ahh, I see. It just felt like that was what you were indeed implying, which is why I asked. I like to be clear.

But, yeah, I disliked her way before last night, I didn't need another excuse but it's good to have it reaffirmed.

And I will be def holding onto it as an example of her awful behaviour in there.

[rusticgal]

What's the point you're attempting to make? That even though we didn't see her "bark" and that nobody other than Cameron has said she did, we should assume she did regardless? Even though we saw the very scene in question?

And the people waiting to hate her are the ones who yell "WOKE! WOKE!" at the drop of a hat at anybody who makes no secret of their liberal values. No, I wasn't suggesting anybody was racist but I know that's what you're getting at


Who was waiting to hate her???....I, like many, liked her at first but her true colours are starting to show, just like every other housemate we are seeing come into their own.

[Jessica.]

No she doesn't have a right to be upset. Trying to paint someone as a racist when they're clearly not is a nasty, irresponsible thing to do

She didn't paint him as a racist, if she thought he was racist she wouldn't reconcile with him and the rest of the friend group would have been put off too. You can't choose what you get upset about every time, especially in a house like that. I felt for Cameron, I don't think he meant it in a sinister way at all but Feyisola felt like she was being compared to an animal and it hurt her feelings, how is that nasty and irresponsible?

[Jessica.]

Who was waiting to hate her???....I, like many, liked her at first but her true colours are starting to show, just like every other housemate we are seeing come into their own.

People on this forum absolutely love finding a reason to hate black contestants on big brother, especially the women. The British public usually votes out a non-white woman first in each series too.

[rusticgal]

People on this forum absolutely love finding a reason to hate black contestants on big brother, especially the women. The British public usually votes out a non-white woman first in each series too.


Well I don't know what you base that on...but its an insult to many on this forum.

[Jessica.]

Well I don't know what you base that on...but its an insult to many on this forum.

It should only be insulting to those who the post is about.

[rusticgal]

She didn't paint him as a racist, if she thought he was racist she wouldn't reconcile with him and the rest of the friend group would have been put off too. You can't choose what you get upset about every time, especially in a house like that. I felt for Cameron, I don't think he meant it in a sinister way at all but Feyisola felt like she was being compared to an animal and it hurt her feelings, how is that nasty and irresponsible?

She did paint him as racist...she said it was a racist thing to say implying she was a dog..and should not be directed at a Black woman. Why implying a black woman is a dog is more offensive than calling a white woman one beats me.

[Jessica.]

She did paint him as racist...she said it was a racist thing to say implying she was a dog..and should not be directed at a Black woman. Why implying a black woman is a dog is more offensive than calling a white woman one beats me.

It's simple, black women face more discrimination than white women do. :shrug:

[Swan]

It's simple, black women face more discrimination than white women do. :shrug:

That's all good and well, but you know, and i know, and everyone else who watches BB knows Cameron didn't mean it like that, because she was a black woman. "barking orders" at someone is a very common phrase, it has zero racial prejudice, it's merely a saying. Fey MASSIVELY overacted, it was ridiculous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She stropped off as she was exposed as the rather passive-aggressive bully she is and then pulled the race card to try and cover up the fact the veil had slipped

and all her ar$e licking lackeys ran to her


pathetic to watch

[vesavius]

People on this forum absolutely love finding a reason to hate black contestants on big brother, especially the women. The British public usually votes out a non-white woman first in each series too.

Absolute bullshit.

Tejah is my actual second to win right now.

This kind of blanket accusation of entire communities as being 'racist' without attempting to understand what they are actually saying is exactly what divides us.

[vesavius]

She didn't paint him as a racist

Of course she did. She was clearly saying he was being unconsciously racist.

But, he is a popular HM in there so it makes tactical sense for her to forgive him. If she had gone any harder on Cam she would have lost him and Jenny both from her sphere of influence.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Absolute bullshit.

Tejah is my actual second to win right now.

This kind of blanket accusation of entire communities as being 'racist' without attempting to understand what they are actually saying is exactly what divides us.

Its a way of trying to silence dissent

just like the passive-agressive Feyishola

nasty devisive woman

Imagine being exposed to the world by the 2 Camerons

:joker:

ouch

[Swan]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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:joker:

[Livia]

Well I don't know what you base that on...but its an insult to many on this forum.

You have to take into account the usual shtick from TiBB's woke contingent whose message seems to be "BE KIND, YOU C%£#S!" .

[Jessica.]

Yeah, I would blame the patriarchy.

[rusticgal]

1976959578790412514

Brilliant...:laugh:

[rusticgal]

It's simple, black women face more discrimination than white women do. :shrug:

well in this particular instance she has taken it to a whole new level. There are things that are said that are totally unacceptable but NOT in this case. This is a case of trying playing the victim card at to a simple term that is used our everyday language.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farmer Cam should have told her

"Listen Fido you did bark now f off and stick your well-worn race card up your a-hole"

that would have won him the internet for Friday

:hee:

[Maru]

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[Swan]

Farmer Cam should have told her

"Listen Fido you did bark now f off and stick your well-worn race card up your a-hole"

that would have won him the internet for Friday

:hee:

He would have also been the second HM of the week to be ejected

[vesavius]

1976959578790412514

when it's too close to reality to really considered a joke

[Benjamin]

People on this forum absolutely love finding a reason to hate black contestants on big brother, especially the women. The British public usually votes out a non-white woman first in each series too.

That’s a reach, Jessica. Usually they are worshipped (me included in that). But Feyisola is not one of them. I didn’t mind her too much but last night pulling the race card put me right off of her. If she found it upset her fine, but saying out loud something like that is so detrimental and careless.

[Kate!]

Farmer Cam should have told her

"Listen Fido you did bark now f off and stick your well-worn race card up your a-hole"

that would have won him the internet for Friday

:hee:

I love you CD

[rusticgal]

Funny how she backtracked when dealing with Cameron k in the room and blamed her upset on past traumas….i don’t know that he actually knows he was accused of racism…I think all he knows is that she was upset by the comment.
He was upset he upset her…I’m sure he would be mortified if he knew she accused him of racism…

[Niamh.]

That’s a reach, Jessica. Usually they are worshipped (me included in that). But Feyisola is not one of them. I didn’t mind her too much but last night pulling the race card put me right off of her. If she found it upset her fine, but saying out loud something like that is so detrimental and careless.I agree, also Teja is my favourite, I didn't like her saying CamKs comment was a micro aggression last night though. If things like this keep happening people are going to be afraid to open their mouths in there. What annoys me is that Camk seems like such an inoffensive guy, interested in everyone's stories etc and Feyisola just seems to have no cares at all about potentially ruining that guy by saying on national TV he's racist. It's not about being on one "side" or the other here, we should all be able to be objective and judge individual situations for what they are

[Jessica.]

That’s a reach, Jessica. Usually they are worshipped (me included in that). But Feyisola is not one of them. I didn’t mind her too much but last night pulling the race card put me right off of her. If she found it upset her fine, but saying out loud something like that is so detrimental and careless.

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. We don't know what she has been through or why the term "barking" affected her how it did and we can dislike the way she reacted but you can't say she's playing up how racism and micro aggression affect her life because neither me nor you could fathom it.

[Benjamin]

I agree, also Teja is my favourite, I didn't like her saying CamKs comment was a micro aggression last night though. If things like this keep happening people are going to be afraid to open their mouths in there. What annoys me is that Camk seems like such an inoffensive guy, interested in everyone's stories etc and Feyisola just seems to have no cares at all about potentially ruining that guy by saying on national TV he's racist. It's not about being on one "side" or the other here, we should all be able to be objective and judge individual situations for what they are

At least Teja did cull the racism part (she should have also culled the micro aggression part too though).

The best thing for that house would for Feyisola to be evicted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. We don't know what she has been through or why the term "barking" affected her how it did and we can dislike the way she reacted but you can't say she's playing up how racism and micro aggression affect her life because neither me nor you could fathom it.

wow!

wtaf

[Swan]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. We don't know what she has been through or why the term "barking" affected her how it did and we can dislike the way she reacted but you can't say she's playing up how racism and micro aggression affect her life because neither me nor you could fathom it.

In that case, what makes your opinion any more valid than Ben's?

[Niamh.]

At least Teja did cull the racism part (she should have also culled the micro aggression part too though).

The best thing for that house would for Feyisola to be evicted.

Yeah, i worry it will ruin Tejas chances if she gets sucked in by her and that victim group. She does have a good head on her shoulders but shes still so young

[Jessica.]

In that case, what makes your opinion any more valid than Ben's?

Because I don't believe either of us has the right to even guess.

[Benjamin]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. We don't know what she has been through or why the term "barking" affected her how it did and we can dislike the way she reacted but you can't say she's playing up how racism and micro aggression affect her life because neither me nor you could fathom it.

Think you need to reread my post. I said she can feel like that, never said she couldn’t, nor did I say anything about what she has been through. But to say what she said out loud on public TV when it absolutely was not that is irresponsible. If she felt it was racist then she should have sat and had a private chat with Cameron as to why, not throw it out in front of everyone in the midst of it all. What she did was not fine, regardless of past experiences or not.

[bots]

Any word can have many meanings depending on context. What we rely on is consensus. My understanding is that consenus doesn't attribute bark to being a racially aggressive phrase, otherwise everyone would be aware of it.

People can't just make crap up and expect people to be aware of it

[Jessica.]

Think you need to reread my post. I said she can feel like that, never said she couldn’t, nor did I say anything about what she has been through. But to say what she said out loud on public TV when it absolutely was not that is irresponsible. If she felt it was racist then she should have sat and had a private chat with Cameron as to why, not throw it out in front of everyone in the midst of it all. What she did was not fine, regardless of past experiences or not.

You literally said in the thread title that she brought up the race card. She reacted emotionally, she's human. :shrug:

[Benjamin]

You literally said in the thread title that she brought up the race card. She reacted emotionally, she's human. :shrug:

Because she did bring up the race card. And in such a public, careless and detrimental way.

[Swan]

Because I don't believe either of us has the right to even guess.

But we don't need to guess what "barking" means, or what "barking orders" means. It has absolutely no racial connotations. So me, you, we, anyone has every right to question why it made her think it was a "racial"

She was actually rude to Cameron, but of course nobody gives a **** about Cameron's feelings. Straight, White, Man etc... Double standards as per.

[Swan]

Any word can have many meanings depending on context. What we rely on is consensus. My understanding is that consenus doesn't attribute bark to being a racially aggressive phrase, otherwise everyone would be aware of it.

People can't just make crap up and expect people to be aware of it

This.

[vesavius]

Yeah, i worry it will ruin Tejas chances if she gets sucked in by her and that victim group. She does have a good head on her shoulders but shes still so young

I think this as well.

I can see, even from what we are shown, a pretty smart young lady under the conditioning. I honestly think that she will be one of those that grows out of it.

[kizzmad]

As the most liberal and leftist person, I found it ridiculous and played into the stereotypes of left-wing people. There was no need, I felt sorry for Cameron who is dealing with his weight issues and is such an incredibly great open-minded guy, and it made me really question Feyisola and also Zey also for playing to her behaviour, I have used that term to white friends and family and I totally understand racial undertones but total overreaction for the sake of it and shes always waiting for someone to say something un pc and jump in - sometimes for good reason but it makes me question her and that sort of reaction is why people who are liberal get called snowflakes

[Maru]

Any word can have many meanings depending on context. What we rely on is consensus. My understanding is that consenus doesn't attribute bark to being a racially aggressive phrase, otherwise everyone would be aware of it.

People can't just make crap up and expect people to be aware of it

Speaker's intent matters also if they're not from a region that stigmatizes language to the level that others do. The rest of the world is not living in a padded room. We're talking about a small minority of people that screen conversations.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As the most liberal and leftist person, I found it ridiculous and played into the stereotypes of left-wing people. There was no need, I felt sorry for Cameron who is dealing with his weight issues and is such an incredibly great open-minded guy, and it made me really question Feyisola and also Zey also for playing to her behaviour, I have used that term to white friends and family and I totally understand racial undertones but total overreaction for the sake of it and shes always waiting for someone to say something un pc and jump in - sometimes for good reason but it makes me question her and that sort of reaction is why people who are liberal get called snowflakes

good post

[Mystic Mock]

That's a microaggession because "dog" is often used as an insult towards women, so you're invading his transition :nono:

:joker:

Tough ****.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

No she doesn't have a right to be upset. Trying to paint someone as a racist when they're clearly not is a nasty, irresponsible thing to do

Agreed.

[Mystic Mock]

What's the point you're attempting to make? That even though we didn't see her "bark" and that nobody other than Cameron has said she did, we should assume she did regardless? Even though we saw the very scene in question?

And the people waiting to hate her are the ones who yell "WOKE! WOKE!" at the drop of a hat at anybody who makes no secret of their liberal values. No, I wasn't suggesting anybody was racist but I know that's what you're getting at

Tbf, Feyisola is hypersensitive to a lot of stuff in the house, it's why I also don't like Nancy, Zelah, and Sam that much either.

I also found George's Lightyear being "Pornographic" comment to be ridiculous too.

Left or Right leaning, I personally can't stand people being overly-sensitive over trivial stuff.

[Mystic Mock]

People on this forum absolutely love finding a reason to hate black contestants on big brother, especially the women. The British public usually votes out a non-white woman first in each series too.

That stat is true tbf.

[Mystic Mock]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. We don't know what she has been through or why the term "barking" affected her how it did and we can dislike the way she reacted but you can't say she's playing up how racism and micro aggression affect her life because neither me nor you could fathom it.

Benjamin can have his opinion Jessica.

And some white people do face racism, don't forget that.

[OnTheRight]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend. .

Because white people never suffer from racism.
What a clown.

[vesavius]

You're a white British man, you have no right to use the term "race card" for something you could never comprehend..

You don't even see that you are being racist here yourself.

You are literally voicing a prejudiced opinion based on his race.


(And, no I do not subscribe to or accept the US Leftist led redefinition of the term).

[Jessica.]

Because white people never suffer from racism.
What a clown.

They don't. :shrug:

[Jessica.]

You don't even see that you are being racist here yourself.

You are literally voicing a prejudiced opinion based on his race.


(And, no I do not subscribe to or accept the US Leftist led redefinition of the term).

No, I'm stating a fact.

[Oliver_W]

They don't. :shrug:

"No Blacks, No Irish"

White people are excluded from employment in some cases, such as the BBC.

[vesavius]

No, I'm stating a fact.

How can it be a fact when you don't know his story or lived experience and you are making a blanket statement based on race alone?

[Niamh.]

"No Blacks, No Irish"



White people are excluded from employment in some cases, such as the BBC.Was going to say, easily known she never spent time in London in the 90s.

[Oliver_W]

Was going to say, easily known she never spent time in London in the 90s.

And Eastern Europeans today don't exactly have it easy.

[Jessica.]

"No Blacks, No Irish"

White people are excluded from employment in some cases, such as the BBC.

That wasn't racism, I'm Irish and we'll informed about what Irish people went through, it's devastating, though a very different situation to what a black person like Feyisola goes through in their lifetime.

[Cherie]

That wasn't racism, I'm Irish and we'll informed about what Irish people went through, it's devastating, though a very different situation to what a black person like Feyisola goes through in their lifetime.

You don't think Irish travellers have to put up with racism and discrimination, they are the last acceptable face of racism, everyone else is a protected species in comparison

[Beso]

Im white british and well aware of what white British people went through in Ireland.

[Jessica.]

You don't think Irish travellers have to put up with racism and discrimination, they are the last acceptable face of racism, everyone else is a protected species in comparison

Irish Travellers are a marginalised group and they sadly face a lot of discrimination, usually committed by white people.

[Cherie]

Irish Travellers are a marginalised group and they sadly face a lot of discrimination, usually committed by white people.

Not just by white people I am afraid

[Livia]

Jews. White. Just saying.

[Oliver_W]

Irish Travellers are a marginalised group and they sadly face a lot of discrimination, usually committed by white people.

And across Africa, black people discriminate against each other for coming from the wrong place, or having the wrong religion ...

You can be racist against someone with a similar level of melanin in the skin, because there's more to race and racism than what you look like.

[Cherie]

And across Africa, black people discriminate against each other for coming from the wrong place, or having the wrong religion ...

You can be racist against someone with a similar level of melanin in the skin, because there's more to race and racism than what you look like.

yes and the caste system in India

[OnTheRight]

They don't. :shrug:

:joker::joker:

[Zizu]

yes and the caste system in India


It’s a tad concerning that the warriors appear to also be the rulers .. imagine Mike Tyson as the ruler of the USA !!

Kshatriyas (warriors/rulers)


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[OnTheRight]

white/Caucasian is the minority race in the world.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jews. White. Just saying.

SHHHHH

dont go against the m*n* v*r*s

[Mystic Mock]

They don't. :shrug:

That's not true.

It's obviously less than what black people face, but some white people have been subjected to racism in the past.

[Jessica.]

That's not true.

It's obviously less than what black people face, but some white people have been subjected to racism in the past.

Some white people in the past? Yeah, you're get the idea, white people don't have to suffer from racist abuse every day like some communities do. That's my point.

[vesavius]

Some white people in the past? Yeah, you're get the idea, white people don't have to suffer from racist abuse every day like some communities do. That's my point.

Your point is nonsense.

Power is situational.

I have seen white people on very 'diverse' estates where they are the minority be targeted for their race and be othered and attacked for it... But, I guess they don't fit into the silly idea that PoC can't be racist so we won't acknowledge that.


Most people telling me that white people don't receive open racism tend to be middle class and live in leafy green very white areas I have noticed.


https://i.ibb.co/nq1Hm6bT/bad-grafitti.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Mystic Mock]

Some white people in the past? Yeah, you're get the idea, white people don't have to suffer from racist abuse every day like some communities do. That's my point.

Well tbf, you're not really going to hear about racism until it's already happened most of the time.

So most racial incidents are going to be in the past when it gets reported.

And I've already acknowledged that white people face racism less than black people, I just didn't like the fact that you were seemingly dismissing the fact that white people face racism at all.