Caroline vs Richard ongoing feud

[The Human Santapede]

Caroline really has it in for him. Even Teja told her to move on from it, yet Caroline still digs at him.

Will be interesting to see how long she can drag it on for.

[Ray.]

Be interesting to see which lasts longer, Caroline vs Richard, Jenny vs Nancy, or Zelah vs irrelevance

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

She wants to be the hip old person in the house and doesn't like that Richard is easily more likeable than her.

[Holly Christmas]

She wants to be the hip old person in the house and doesn't like that Richard is easily more likeable than her.

Spot on.

[Ammi]

…it would be such a great dynamic for Richard to be voted out on Friday…

[Ammi]

She wants to be the hip old person in the house and doesn't like that Richard is easily more likeable than her.

…strange to know what tilted the dynamic as they were both originally…/…older ones creating a bond…

[Thotmas]

Team Richard

[Time to Sleigh]

Yeah im on team Richard. Not a fan of Caroline at all.she thinks shes a lot more interesting and quirky then she actually is

[Merry Mockmas]

Be interesting to see which lasts longer, Caroline vs Richard, Jenny vs Nancy, or Zelah vs irrelevance

Zelah vs Irrelevance.:dance:

[Merry Mockmas]

Yeah im on team Richard. Not a fan of Caroline at all.she thinks shes a lot more interesting and quirky then she actually is

Tbf, Caroline is a lot more interesting to watch than at least half of the house imo.

[The Human Santapede]

Tbf, Caroline is a lot more interesting to watch than at least half of the house imo.

I will give her that. But she needs to get over Richard now. It was in week 1 and she’s still holding into it lol.

[Merry Mockmas]

I will give her that. But she needs to get over Richard now. It was in week 1 and she’s still holding into it lol.

I do agree with you personally.:laugh:

[millyrose]

…it would be such a great dynamic for Richard to be voted out on Friday…

Yes it would as long as Richard can go back in. Caroline would be so smug thinking the public are siding with her.

[millyrose]

Yeah im on team Richard. Not a fan of Caroline at all.she thinks shes a lot more interesting and quirky then she actually is

Same team Richard all the way

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I can't stand Caroline now. She needs to leave Richard alone :fist:

[millyrose]

Caroline really has it in for him. Even Teja told her to move on from it, yet Caroline still digs at him.

Will be interesting to see how long she can drag it on for.

I think she will drag it out for a while she hate's the fact that Richard was saved by the public over Cameron, she was upset when Cameroon left.

[joeysteele]

I cannot bear Caroline, I think she's awful.
I have come to like Richard much more recently.

[bots]

things haven't been the same since caroline got her warning. She can't attack the groups that earned her the warning, so the only person left is richard and he's getting it all

[millyrose]

I can't stand Caroline now. She needs to leave Richard alone :fist:

I can't stand Caroline either and Richard is one of my favourite's but the more she keep's on digging at him the more she is digging her own grave.

[Ammi]

I can't stand Caroline either and Richard is one of my favourite's but the more she keep's on digging at him the more she is digging her own grave.

…yeah, this exactly…let her dig away because she’s only going to elevate Richard’s popularity…:fan:..

[Shaun]

Sad bitch is just distancing herself from the only person approximate to her age out of nothing but insecurity. It's almost laughable how vindictive she's being over nothing.

[Ammi]

Sad bitch is just distancing herself from the only person approximate to her age out of nothing but insecurity. It's almost laughable how vindictive she's being over nothing.

…I actually think that what shes distancing herself from/trying to is her own feelings of guilt because they did seem to have a bond/friendship created through their ages and being the two older ones…she commented about that herself …but after Zelah-gate and what she said and how mortified she was with the realisation of how vulnerable she is now to the public vote …and the public reaction she may get…?…all of that jazz etc…?…I think that she’s now just needing so much to stay in there and in that, she’s targeted the big eyeball holder to take that power that she so needed…and that’s happened to be a friendship so I think there is guilt there also…and that’s being deflected now in trying to justify as if Richard is somehow at fault…

…from everything I’ve read about her in terms of her inspiration of others diagnosed with breast cancer, I just don’t see her as a vindictive person …I do feel that there is guilt feeling involved because of her own eviction fears/vulnerability….Zelah-gate….

[Katmieow]

Team Richard for sure. Caroline is just plain nasty to him ,still going on about "snitching" it was his part in a Effin task you nasty moo. Sadly stuck with her for 2 weeks.I want her out !

[vesavius]

I think Richard has 100% deserved all that he has gotten.

He took all the eyes to start and he has snitched, bankrupting others.

Now his get taken he is all 'offended'? get out.

Gollum is playing a smart game of a harmless gopher, but he is the most devious and dangerous one in there. Caroline sees that I think.

Just to say that I don't get his popularity at all.. He isn't funny, his gameplay is obvious and boring, and he has zero likability... Explain please?? :joker::joker:

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I think Richard has 100% deserved all that he has gotten.

He took all the eyes to start and he has snitched, bankrupting others.

Now his get taken he is all 'offended'? get out.

Gollum is playing a smart game of a harmless gopher, but he is the most devious and dangerous one in there. Caroline sees that I think.

Just to say that I don't get his popularity at all.. He isn't funny, his gameplay is obvious and boring, and he has zero likability... Explain please?? :joker::joker:

He couldn't give two ***** about the mind game aspect of BB and I think he just plays the game for what it is rather than overthinking it. He's also a walking contradiction to the other manufactured, social media-savvy HMs that typically come into BB. Whether he does that legitimately or not, it makes him a great HM in my eyes.

It's worth noting he probably was a guinea pig (was working on BB sound stage) before they recruited him, so even his coming into BB is out-of-the-box.

I think it's understandable he's offended by Caroline specifically because as we know, she's a wall of sunshine. Whereas in the other instances, no one was picking who ended up with nothing as the end result was borne of everyone's greed :shrug: (technically)

The overthinking will more likely happen later as he bonds with more people and when that does, it will make or break him (his popularity). It's not like he is surrounded by great role models or anything and I think other HMs like Nancy, Sam, Teja, etc have shown how just being in a particular environment brings out one set of traits over another...

[vesavius]

He couldn't give two ***** about the mind game aspect of BB and I think he just plays the game for what it is rather than overthinking it.


Deeply disagree with this part. Everything he does is calculated with the game in mind.

Do people really not see that?

You all really see him as a goofy dork ambling thorough there clueless?

I get the protest vote element the most, but the rest? Nah.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Deeply disagree with this part. Everything he does is calculated with the game in mind.

Do people really not see that?

You all really see him as a goofy dork ambling thorough there clueless?

I get the protest vote element the most, but the rest? Nah.

That's what I'm saying, he's playing the game. He just doesn't care about playing it the way other people care he plays it.

[vesavius]

That's what I'm saying, he's playing the game. He just doesn't care about playing it the way other people care he plays it.

ahhh, I see, sorry I misunderstood.

[The Human Santapede]

Deeply disagree with this part. Everything he does is calculated with the game in mind.

Do people really not see that?

You all really see him as a goofy dork ambling thorough there clueless?

I get the protest vote element the most, but the rest? Nah.

I don’t mind a game player as long as they’re not a ****. It is after all a game.

I was rooting for Victor in BB5 as the open game player until he was a complete twat to Shell for no reason.

[vesavius]

I don’t mind a game player as long as they’re not a ****. It is after all a game.

I do agree with this for sure, but I find his way of playing to be incredibly dull.

It's also pretty passive aggressive and relies on playing the audience, both of which I'm never a fan of.

But, yeah, my dislike of him isn't because of game playing in of itself

[The Human Santapede]

I do agree with this for sure, but I find his way of playing to be incredibly dull.

It's also pretty passive aggressive and relies on playing the audience, both of which I'm never a fan of.

But, yeah, my dislike of him isn't because of game playing in of itself

Oh it’s not the most exciting at times but we all clearly know what he’s up to as he always gives that sneaky look and grin to the camera when he’s done something.

[Merry Mockmas]

I don’t mind a game player as long as they’re not a ****. It is after all a game.

I was rooting for Victor in BB5 as the open game player until he was a complete twat to Shell for no reason.

Victor was a legend.:dance:

Flaws and all.

[The Human Santapede]

Victor was a legend.:dance:

Flaws and all.

It’s a shame he ****ed it all up right near the end. He defo would have survived over Jason had he not been a dick to Shell.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I do agree with this for sure, but I find his way of playing to be incredibly dull.

It's also pretty passive aggressive and relies on playing the audience, both of which I'm never a fan of.

But, yeah, my dislike of him isn't because of game playing in of itself

I think he has to be dull right now to avoid too much scrutiny because they're looking for any reason to paint a target on his back. Remember what happened after the great ball grab...

[arista]

…it would be such a great dynamic for Richard to be voted out on Friday…


But he is Not up

[Merry Mockmas]

It’s a shame he ****ed it all up right near the end. He defo would have survived over Jason had he not been a dick to Shell.

Oh I agree with you.

The greatest Housemates always **** it up for themselves though, it's probably apart of why they're such good Housemates to begin with, because they're so unpredictable.

[The Human Santapede]

Let’s see what digs she’ll get in tonight.

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that Richard minds the digs so much as he minds the hugs…/when Caroline had a few drinks last night…gimmeee a hug, Richard…the fear on his face….
.

[The Human Santapede]

…I don’t think that Richard minds the digs so much as he minds the hugs…/when Caroline had a few drinks last night…gimmeee a hug, Richard…the fear on his face….
.

Haha I’m watching that part now lol

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Trying not to spoil but I'm at the shopping budget reveal

[Parmy]

Tbf, Caroline is a lot more interesting to watch than at least half of the house imo.

If scraping a metal spoon across a saucepan is your vibe, then yèah.

[Merry Mockmas]

If scraping a metal spoon across a saucepan is your vibe, then yèah.

The way that I see it is that I would rather watch Caroline over:

Nancy
Elsa
Zelah
Feyisola
Teja
Sam (who's really starting to get on my nerves)

And there's a couple of more tbh, but I actually don't mind them that much, so I'll leave them off of the list for now.

[millyrose]

disliking Caroline more and more each day, she's just nasty and do not find her at all entertaining.

[Vicky.]

Richard seems to not give a **** about this feud, it's all in her head :laugh: mind I am liking her recently, she's getting too cocky which is fun to watch

[ChristmasNeeve]

Caroline is an amazing HM

[Rustic bauble]

I do believe Caroline really likes Richard. She digs him out at every opportunity because she knows he will take it all in good faith.

[The Grinch]

Caroline is a good HM as Vicky said. She’s a stirrer, is annoying the others and her Richard dissing is not at all returned by Richard onto her. It’s funny.

Richard made me laugh on last nights episode. So funny when he hung up on Jenny

[Zizu]

I do believe Caroline really likes Richard. She digs him out at every opportunity because she knows he will take it all in good faith.


She online likes him when she’s drunk though so I don’t know what that equates to being a tea totaler


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[The Human Santapede]

Still ongoing lol

[Peppermint]

I love this rivalry :flutter:

[Thotmas]

I've come to the conclusion that she hates him because he's a Christian. There is no other explanation

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

She's handing him the win :joker:

[millyrose]

She's handing him the win :joker:

She's just so nasty with it

[thesheriff443]

Not that I’m watching but the way I see it is
A boring housemate doesn’t deserve to win just as much as a nasty housemate doesn’t deserve to win

I would go as far and say none of this series housemates deserve to win it’s only the fact that there has to be a winner

[Katmieow]

The feud is all in her nasty head , loathsome bint.

[Ray.]

If Caroline is a dog, Richard is the tail that's wagging her. I loved the way he influenced her thinking in last night's show. :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

If Caroline is a dog, Richard is the tail that's wagging her. I loved the way he influenced her thinking in last night's show. :laugh:

Surly Richard is the flea if Caroline is the dog
A flea on her back that’s driving her mad

Also you could easily imagine Richard’s smiling face on a flea

[Ray.]

Also you could easily imagine Richard’s smiling face on a flea

:joker:

[Ray.]

If Richard were a flea, Caroline would be Yzma

mMSHOPkcVv8

[Ammi]

I've come to the conclusion that she hates him because he's a Christian. There is no other explanation

…to say that she thought he was hiding behind his bible was such a bizarre thing to say and because his religion is a huge part of who he is and the life path he chooses to follow, it was a very low/unkind blow, I felt…Farida has talked about how prayer is a huge part of her life, I can’t imagine Caroline saying an equivalent to her as a nomination reason/…that she felt that she hid behind her prayer…/…I know that Farida is a different character/personality completely to Richard…I understand that completely…but isn’t that the whole point of BB and the ‘social experiment’ aspect, that they’re all so different and some will form bonds and some won’t and some will display intolerance and that seems to be what Caroline is displaying with Richard….I’m so much thinking of that internet/social media type saying that Richard seems to be living in Caroline’s head rent free/or eyeball free…I mean, I don’t dislike Caroline but atm I’m finding her whole self identifying/personality defined in how she feels toward Richard and her actions/words surrounding him etc… so does that define a person as being more interesting than one who has the ability to have chaos happening all around them, as it were and ‘topical’ conversations etc…but who can keep their focus and attention calm and centred on their bible…?…because that makes Richard quite a rare bird in the house that I personally find interesting…

…anyways, I do actually find Caroline interesting also because she does because she can…(…imo…)….give someone the power/safety of immunity and what impact will that have on their character …there’s a song, give that immunity and what will she be…que sera, sera….


…it’s all having a few smaller shades of Bea/Freddie and Helen Wood atm, though, for me…and I personally find Richard’s ‘bible’ conversations/chats more interesting because they’re so different and so much more unique than the same old/same old ‘populist’ topics that we see and hear every day and all around us in this internet…

[millyrose]

I do think this feud is all mainly in Caroline's head, she can't stand the fact that Richard won't be one of her puppets.

[Ammi]

I do think this feud is all mainly in Caroline's head, she can't stand the fact that Richard won't be one of her puppets.

….hmmmmm maybe, millyrose….but we also know that she’s a game-player, which her friends have also said/and she mentioned game play when she first went in and was curious of other housemates and their ‘play’…so maybe she just sees Richard as the threat to her gameplay that he just may prove to be…the protagonist to her antagonist BB story game-play….he has so much popularity and respect in the house…(…and outside of the house so far as she may think in her head…)…just by being himself and chilled and cool etc…whereas Caroline is a trying so hard to stir that house up, yet what she’s getting back and receiving for that is…’oh, I must be being portrayed so negatively to the outside world…’….I think that she’s exhausting herself with frustration toward Richard and yeah…a little jealousy might be right there, also…

[In the Drunk Tank]

She liked banging on about us being a Christian country when it gave her an excuse to throw alcohol over a Muslim but the presence of an actual practicing Christian seems to be mortifying to her

[millyrose]

….hmmmmm maybe, millyrose….but we also know that she’s a game-player, which her friends have also said/and she mentioned game play when she first went in and was curious of other housemates and their ‘play’…so maybe she just sees Richard as the threat to her gameplay that he just may prove to be…the protagonist to her antagonist BB story game-play….he has so much popularity and respect in the house…(…and outside of the house so far as she may think in her head…)…just by being himself and chilled and cool etc…whereas Caroline is a trying so hard to stir that house up, yet what she’s getting back and receiving for that is…’oh, I must be being portrayed so negatively to the outside world…’….I think that she’s exhausting herself with frustration toward Richard and yeah…a little jealousy might be right there, also…

Well said

[Jake.]

i think under the bravado she’s probably a very lonely person, so she clings on to whatever piece of drama she can and magnifies it x100.

i’ve never seen someone gun so much for another person and it be completely one sided, it’s honestly kinda sad!

[benthebbyapper]

I think she's just being a bully now - there's no justification behind how mean she is to Richard. Richard isn't really giving her a reaction of which she seems desperate for because she is an attention seeker. That group of Caroline, Nancy and Sam are just very bitchy individuals who feel like going back to high school - I just don't find targeting someone and putting them down to be entertaining. I found her nomination to be very rude to him - calling him names, there's no need for that behaviour.
I do think that if Caroline was doing this to Elsa or someone else, she would've been given a warning for it but alas.

[arista]

I think she's just being a bully now - there's no justification behind how mean she is to Richard. Richard isn't really giving her a reaction of which she seems desperate for because she is an attention seeker. That group of Caroline, Nancy and Sam are just very bitchy individuals who feel like going back to high school - I just don't find targeting someone and putting them down to be entertaining. I found her nomination to be very rude to him - calling him names, there's no need for that behaviour.
I do think that if Caroline was doing this to Elsa or someone else, she would've been given a warning for it but alas.


Yes it shows
Nasty Nature - Not Needed

[bots]

richard isn't being bullied :laugh: He just completely ignores her and carries on as he was. He knows this annoys Caroline more than anything else

[Cherry Christmas]

She liked banging on about us being a Christian country when it gave her an excuse to throw alcohol over a Muslim but the presence of an actual practicing Christian seems to be mortifying to her

So true, no need to knock him for his beliefs

[Peppermint]

richard isn't being bullied :laugh: He just completely ignores her and carries on as he was. He knows this annoys Caroline more than anything else
Yeah this, he's really unbothered by it all :skull: It's not like she follows him around the house or anything, she's just honest about her feelings/thoughts towards him

[Ammi]

She liked banging on about us being a Christian country when it gave her an excuse to throw alcohol over a Muslim but the presence of an actual practicing Christian seems to be mortifying to her

…and those were exactly the points that Yazzfetto made that I totally agreed with when Caroline through the alcohol in Farida’s direction and then when Zelah checked that Farida was ok…?…she then diverted by talking about halal meat and UK being a Christian country…so she’s a Christian, then…she respects a Christian religion and is tolerant of it…?…at no point in time has she seemed to show respect or tolerance for Richard or his Christianity/her respect for Christianity seems to extend to telling him that he’s boring and that he hides behind his bible…/ …respect for any religion, no what matter it’s size or shape etc hmmmmmm….

[ebandit]

...........caroline is rather obsessed in her criticism of richard but reading here i might think 'fight night' had been reinacted...


Mark L

[Liam-]

She liked banging on about us being a Christian country when it gave her an excuse to throw alcohol over a Muslim but the presence of an actual practicing Christian seems to be mortifying to her

Isn’t that pretty much the extent of the entire right wing ‘Christian’s’? They actually hate the teachings and practicing of the words of god, but hide behind it when they want to excuse their bigotry

[Liam-]

I literally wouldn’t even call it a feud, it’s one pathetic woman’s one sided vendetta against a man she can’t stand because he’s something she doesn’t know how to be, decent

[Father Chris Mouse]

It's reminiscent of how Ali was with Khaled when she singled him out last year for no apparent reason.

[Ammi]

It's reminiscent of how Ali was with Khaled when she singled him out last year for no apparent reason.

…and of course, Ali went on to win so that’s interesting…

[Father Chris Mouse]

…and of course, Ali went on to win so that’s interesting…

Yeah true, but Ali had the support of the LGBT community which was a huge factor in her winning. Caroline is one of, if not the most disliked in that community from what i've observed online and watching L&L.

[Ammi]

Yeah true, but Ali had the support of the LGBT community which was a huge factor in her winning. Caroline is one of, if not the most disliked in that community from what i've observed online and watching L&L.

…yeah there were factors specific to Ali why she won as well, for sure…it’s never one size fit all but you just got me thinking when you said that it was reminding you of that…is that have any bearing on Caroline’s ‘gameplay’ because Ali did win …