The Charlie Kirk convo

[The Human Santapede]

Was shown? Or is this the first we’re hearing about it?

[Adamw92]

Don’t think it’s been shown from what I recall.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

No it wasn't shown

[bots]

i never heard it .... i wonder what else was said that has been brushed under the carpet

[Oliver_W]

I think Zelah saying "the world is a better place without him in it" would make a few thread titles.

[Molly biggles]

Asif these woke producers would show that 😂

Bet they are fuming emily has let that out the bag on the live

[bots]

I think Zelah saying "the world is a better place without him in it" would make a few thread titles.

yep. Just shows how much manipulation is done by production

[Cherry Christmas]

Not shown and to think he was kicked without it lol

[Molly biggles]

If thats true that hes said that when george was thrown out for things he said its a disgrace and just proves how one sided these producers are

[Ray.]

Zelah's a piece of **** :shrug:

Trust a Boris Tory to bring the truth to light, too. :hehe:

[Lister of Smeg]

Pathetic one sided treatment from the producers :nono:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

A horrible person rightly evicted

[StephenPullen]

People like Zeelah are moral hypocrites. They preach decency and tolerance, but turn out to be the most indecent and intolerant ones of them all. I'm not surprised.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

People like Zeelah are moral hypocrites. They preach decency and tolerance, but turn out to be the most indecent and intolerant ones of them all. I'm not surprised.

Amen

[Parmy]

That's what I did when I started to figure it out. No time for that in this short life.

Laughing at someone's death is one thing, but to watch someone's death and then gloat about it is quite the other.

[The Grinch]

Wait what happened? I’m not watching late and live

[Rustic bauble]

People like Zeelah are moral hypocrites. They preach decency and tolerance, but turn out to be the most indecent and intolerant ones of them all. I'm not surprised.


I agree….

[Rustic bauble]

How has this info come about…I must have missed it.

[Parmy]

Can a mod merge Molly's thread please.:blush:

[Ray.]

Wait what happened? I’m not watching late and live

At the tail end of the main show when they were showing live footage inside the house, Emily mentioned that Zelah might have been evicted because of what they said about the world being 'a better place without Charlie Kirk in it'

[Ray.]

BB producers after Emily let that slip in the live footage:

https://c.tenor.com/fn1xoqgaO2AAAAAd/tenor.gif

[Parmy]

At the tail end of the main show when they were showing live footage inside the house, Emily mentioned that Zelah might have been evicted because of what they said about the world being 'a better place without Charlie Kirk in it'

Oh..

Is that what happened...I was 29 mins behind and I turned off to some post on TIBB:fist:


Emily does have a habit of just blurting out stuff that pops in her head. I'd need to see it first.:shrug:

[Rustic bauble]

BB producers after Emily let that slip in the live footage:

https://c.tenor.com/fn1xoqgaO2AAAAAd/tenor.gif

What did she say?

[bots]

How has this info come about…I must have missed it.

Emily said in live feed after the eviction that it may have been Zelah's comments on Charlie Kirk that got him evicted

He said something like .... i'm not glad he is dead but the world is a better place without him ..... it's been covered up

[The Grinch]

At the tail end of the main show when they were showing live footage inside the house, Emily mentioned that Zelah might have been evicted because of what they said about the world being 'a better place without Charlie Kirk in it'

Oh. I wonder why they never showed that. Seems like double standard for some housemates.

[StephenPullen]

Emily mentioned it during the eviction when they show the other housemates' reactions live. Allegedly Zeelah said something like "the world is a better place now that Charlie Kirk is dead".

Dislike or disagree with American Christian fundamentalists all you want, but that message/ sentiment is much worse and much more dark than anything George ever said on the show. It's just disgusting and makes me dislike Zeelah entirely.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Didn’t George say Hitler was misguided

[Cherry Christmas]

Emily mentioned it during the eviction when they show the other housemates' reactions live. Allegedly Zeelah said something like "the world is a better place now that Charlie Kirk is dead".

Dislike or disagree with American Christian fundamentalists all you want, but that message/ sentiment is much worse and much more dark than anything George ever said on the show. It's just disgusting and makes me dislike Zeelah entirely.

Yeah I had forgotten George was booted for less ...go figure

[Rustic bauble]

Emily said in live feed after the eviction that it may have been Zelah's comments on Charlie Kirk that got him evicted

He said something like .... i'm not glad he is dead but the world is a better place without him ..... it's been covered up

Thanks Bots…

[Abra]

Emily said in live feed after the eviction that it may have been Zelah's comments on Charlie Kirk that got him evicted

He said something like .... i'm not glad he is dead but the world is a better place without him ..... it's been covered up

So he said he's not glad that he's dead.... so surely he's entitled to his opinion? :shrug:

The people in this thread losing their minds over it are usually the first people to say that everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, and that George was hard done by for getting removed for suggesting that Hitler was a misunderstood man. I guess some people think your right to an opinion only applies to people who share the same views as them.

It's also worth noting though that we have no actual knowledge of the conversation that was had and that Emily could easily be misremembering or misquoting his words.

[Cherry Christmas]

Oh..

Is that what happened...I was 29 mins behind and I turned off to some post on TIBB:fist:


Emily does have a habit of just blurting out stuff that pops in her head. I'd need to see it first.:shrug:

I dont think she would make it up?

[The Grinch]

I dont think she would make it up?

She’s definitely may have maybe misheard him or didn’t remember the complete quote he said Or he did say that and big brother covered it up

[romeofahey]

oh but I thought you guys were all about free speech ��

[bots]

the implication is that it is something that Zelah said in the last 2 weeks because thats how long Emily has been there. Who knows what was said during the George days

[bots]

So he said he's not glad that he's dead.... so surely he's entitled to his opinion? :shrug:

The people in this thread losing their minds over it are usually the first people to say that everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, and that George was hard done by for getting removed for suggesting that Hitler was a misunderstood man. I guess some people think your right to an opinion only applies to people who share the same views as them.

It's also worth noting though that we have no actual knowledge of the conversation that was had and that Emily could easily be misremembering or misquoting his words.

it wasn't aired though so there is that :laugh:

[Abra]

it wasn't aired though so there is that :laugh:

Exactly, it wasn't aired so we have no idea what was actually said so everyone in here is just jumping the gun.

[Merry Mockmas]

Not shown and to think he was kicked without it lol

He might've lost to Farida if people got to see whatever he said about Charlie Kirk.:laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

If thats true that hes said that when george was thrown out for things he said its a disgrace and just proves how one sided these producers are

Too true.

[Peppermint]

Emily said in live feed after the eviction that it may have been Zelah's comments on Charlie Kirk that got him evicted

He said something like .... i'm not glad he is dead but the world is a better place without him ..... it's been covered up
Oh my god he's so vile, even more glad he was evicted now

[Peppermint]

It gets me every time how the wokies can be so offended by being misgendered yet they don't have any problem with wishing somebody dead :umm2: They definitely need mental help

[Merry Mockmas]

Didn’t George say Hitler was misguided

He referenced something about Hitler, but I can't remember exactly what it was that he said.

Either way, it doesn't excuse BB trying to cover up Zelah's comment about Charlie Kirk.

[Father Chris Mouse]

LaLaLand

[Merry Mockmas]

So he said he's not glad that he's dead.... so surely he's entitled to his opinion? :shrug:

The people in this thread losing their minds over it are usually the first people to say that everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, and that George was hard done by for getting removed for suggesting that Hitler was a misunderstood man. I guess some people think your right to an opinion only applies to people who share the same views as them.

It's also worth noting though that we have no actual knowledge of the conversation that was had and that Emily could easily be misremembering or misquoting his words.

George got removed for a conspiracy theory, I think that it was something to do with Jewish people running Epstein Island or something like that.

[Abra]

George got removed for a conspiracy theory, I think that it was something to do with Jewish people running Epstein Island or something like that.

Oh that's right, he said he can understand anti-semitic conspiracy theories after already saying that Hitler was just "misguided" and that Hitler had the right intentions as he thought he was doing the best thing for Germany.

And this is the guy some of the people on here go to bat for :joker:

[Good King Glennceslas]

It gets me every time how the wokies can be so offended by being misgendered yet they don't have any problem with wishing somebody dead :umm2: They definitely need mental help

Who wished him dead?

People need to learn the difference between not caring someone’s gone and wishing them dead.

When someone spent years spewing hate, mocking minorities, and turning cruelty into a brand, you don’t owe them fake mourning.

It’s not woke to say good riddance to someone who thrived on making the world worse. It’s honesty.

[vesavius]

Who wished him dead?

People need to learn the difference between not caring someone’s gone and wishing them dead.



Not you, but there were plenty of people celebrating his death. And there had been posts before the event literally saying someone should do it.

There are a lot of sociopathic assholes on the radical hard left. I am not saying all the left, before anyone takes it that way, but the radicalised hard left is an asylum.

[White Christmas]

I think Zelah saying "the world is a better place without him in it" would make a few thread titles.

What a vile thing that freak is. Disgusting.

[Ammi]

…I actually somehow thought that we had heard that comment from Zelah..?…/…I couldn’t recall when exactly or which housemates were part of the conversation but it felt earlier on …maybe that ‘Night of Politics’ they had/around that time when George was ejected…anyway I googled it because I felt that conversation had happened but this what has initially immediately come up on Reddit…(…feels dirty/will shower…)…and this is just in the last few days…and that’s obviously just a post by a member..


The evil superTV247 tweeting that Zelah said he was glad Charlie Kirk died even though that’s not what he said and that’s just setting him up to get hounded by right wingers..

…anyway, I had thought that I’d heard the conversation and that it was earlier on but obviously not…what’s that thing when you think something’s happened/you recall it and it hasn’t actually happened…?…like you think a celebrity died and they didn’t/type thing…spooky Halloween happenings…

[bots]

…anyway, I had thought that I’d heard the conversation and that it was earlier on but obviously not…what’s that thing when you think something’s happened/you recall it and it hasn’t actually happened…?…like you think a celebrity died and they didn’t/type thing…spooky Halloween happenings…

it's called getting old :laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

Oh that's right, he said he can understand anti-semitic conspiracy theories after already saying that Hitler was just "misguided" and that Hitler had the right intentions as he thought he was doing the best thing for Germany.

And this is the guy some of the people on here go to bat for :joker:

I think what's fair to say is that if BB were going to clamp down on George for being sympathetic to an atrocious Human Being, then they do have to come down on Zelah for thinking that the world is a better place with Charlie Kirk being dead.

Personally I think that both views should've been left for the public to decide, but Big Brother have opened up a can of worms here.

[Peppermint]

Who wished him dead?

People need to learn the difference between not caring someone’s gone and wishing them dead.

When someone spent years spewing hate, mocking minorities, and turning cruelty into a brand, you don’t owe them fake mourning.

It’s not woke to say good riddance to someone who thrived on making the world worse. It’s honesty.
There's also a difference between having basic human decency and not.. that's literally all it comes down to. There's a difference between "mourning" and simply having some empathy for those who he was important to. Having differing political views to somebody doesn't warrant this type of OTT reaction

[Good King Glennceslas]

Did he have any empathy?

[Rustic bauble]

oh but I thought you guys were all about free speech ��

There is free speech and double standards..

[Abra]

I think what's fair to say is that if BB were going to clamp down on George for being sympathetic to an atrocious Human Being, then they do have to come down on Zelah for thinking that the world is a better place with Charlie Kirk being dead.

Personally I think that both views should've been left for the public to decide, but Big Brother have opened up a can of worms here.

But again, we don't know what Zelah actually said. As Emily is absolutely totally obsessed with constantly bashing "lefties" her comment screams hyperbole or exaggeration on what he actually said.

I also think there is a stark difference between making a comment in support of Hitler and making a comment about Charlie Kirk's death.

[Abra]

There's also a difference between having basic human decency and not.. that's literally all it comes down to. There's a difference between "mourning" and simply having some empathy for those who he was important to. Having differing political views to somebody doesn't warrant this type of OTT reaction

Did Charlie Kirk have empathy or basic human decency for the victims of gun violence when he said that gun deaths are "worth it" if it meant not implementing gun control? What is good for the goose....

That man had absolutely no empathy for the people he made a living out of attacking or the children who are regularly massacred at school across America.

I feel bad for his children, but I also felt bad for them before he died.

[vesavius]

oh but I thought you guys were all about free speech ��

I thought you guys always say that "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"...

[Good King Glennceslas]

I thought you guys always say that "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"...


Who said it wasn’t?

[vesavius]

Who said it wasn’t?

Plenty cried about 'suppression of their free speech' when they got sacked from their jobs and the like following what they said. All of a sudden it was 'fascism' doing it to them.

Sociopaths wearing nice guy skinsuits is all too common in 'progressive' circles, sadly.

[thesheriff443]

Any one wot to put up a thread bb winner of 2018 beaten badly in homosexual attack

[Katmieow]

Who wished him dead?

People need to learn the difference between not caring someone’s gone and wishing them dead.

When someone spent years spewing hate, mocking minorities, and turning cruelty into a brand, you don’t owe them fake mourning.

It’s not woke to say good riddance to someone who thrived on making the world worse. It’s honesty.

Well said

[White Christmas]

There is free speech and double standards..

Indeed there are. I just received an infraction for my post on this thread. To extreme apparently. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Abra]

I thought you guys always say that "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"...

Yes, that is true, but there is not and should not be any consequences for not mourning the death of Charlie Kirk.

[vesavius]

Yes, that is true, but there is not and should not be any consequences for not mourning the death of Charlie Kirk.

No one said that anyone is forced to mourn him.

But, say sociopathic **** and get judged accordingly, I guess.

[Livia]

Zelah makes a comment about Charlie Kirk that some people will find offensive but is protected. Forum members on TiBB are given guidance that we are to refer to Zelah as "he". I am forced to say he plans to have eggs removed from his ovaries and have his eggs implanted into his girlfriend's womb. The world so screwed up right now.

[vesavius]

Zelah makes a comment about Charlie Kirk that some people will find offensive but is protected. Forum members on TiBB are given guidance that we are to refer to Zelah as "he". I am forced to say he plans to have eggs removed from his ovaries and have his eggs implanted into his girlfriend's womb. The world so screwed up right now.

Oh? I missed this guidance... I always call Ze they as a compromise. Is that not allowed?

[Livia]

Oh? I missed this guidance... I always call Ze they as a compromise. Is that not allowed?

Sounds like a perfectly good compromise to me.

[Shaun]

so upsetting when you can't intentionally misgender people to rile up a minority </3

[Good King Glennceslas]

Zelah makes a comment about Charlie Kirk that some people will find offensive but is protected. Forum members on TiBB are given guidance that we are to refer to Zelah as "he". I am forced to say he plans to have eggs removed from his ovaries and have his eggs implanted into his girlfriend's womb. The world so screwed up right now.

No one is forcing you to say anything.

Believe it or not, you had a choice whether to post in here.

Transphobes be tying themselves in knots

[vesavius]

so upsetting when you can't intentionally misgender people to rile up a minority </3

Nobody can offend you, you can only choose to be offended

[vesavius]

No one is forcing you to say anything.

Believe it or not, you had a choice whether to post in here.


I think it's amazing that you can't see the inherent contradiction in this.

[Good King Glennceslas]

I think it's amazing that you can't see the inherent contradiction in this.


That’s great! Proud of you!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The twat was evicted and booed

Deserved

[Abra]

No one said that anyone is forced to mourn him.

But, say sociopathic **** and get judged accordingly, I guess.

But yet the same people up in arms over Zelah's alleged "sociopathic" comment were bending over backwards to justify George's defence of Hitler :joker:

[vesavius]

But yet the same people up in arms over Zelah's alleged "sociopathic" comment were bending over backwards to justify George's defence of Hitler :joker:

Well, tbf, the overwhelming bulk of Leftists are deeply antisemite/ anti zionist so I find it strange that they disagree with the well recorded Jewish influence in Germany during that era.

I think George was just agreeing with that perspective and saying that it needed to be dealt with but the way that Hitler did it was wrong.

I am honestly not sure why it is so objectionable to the left all of a sudden. The modern Leftist position is far closer to the Nazi one (the National Socialist one, tbc) than the bulk of the Right hold, which is in the mainly pro Israel/ Jewish.

It seems to me that the modern Leftist would actually agree with George. It's actually no different to hating Zionism and screaming 'from the river the the sea'.

[Merry Mockmas]

But again, we don't know what Zelah actually said. As Emily is absolutely totally obsessed with constantly bashing "lefties" her comment screams hyperbole or exaggeration on what he actually said.

I also think there is a stark difference between making a comment in support of Hitler and making a comment about Charlie Kirk's death.

Fair point about Emily possibly twisting what Zelah's said.

I do think that if she's telling the truth though then they're both really bad imo.

George for obvious reasons.

And Zelah possibly saying that "the world is a better place without him" is him in a sly way saying that he is happy that Charlie Kirk is dead.

[Merry Mockmas]

I thought you guys always say that "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"...

And obviously there is no freedom of speech if there's consequences for your speech.

We're no different from third world countries and China if we carry on with that kind of thinking in our society.

[vesavius]

And obviously there is no freedom of speech if there's consequences for your speech.

We're no different from third world countries and China if we carry on with that kind of thinking in our society.

right on

[Abra]

Well, tbf, the overwhelming bulk of Leftists are deeply antisemite/ anti zionist so I find it strange that they disagree with the well recorded Jewish influence in Germany during that era.

I think George was just agreeing with that perspective and saying that it needed to be dealt with but the way that Hitler did it was wrong.

I am honestly not sure why it is so objectionable to the left all of a sudden. The modern Leftist position is far closer to the Nazi one (the National Socialist one, tbc) than the bulk of the Right hold, which is in the mainly pro Israel/ Jewish.

It seems to me that the modern Leftist would actually agree with George. It's actually no different to hating Zionism and screaming 'from the river the the sea'.

The left object to the fact that Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza, that doesn't make them Nazi's, quite the opposite actually. Say what you want about anti-zionism, but the fact of the matter is that Israel's actual actions are far more comparable to the Nazi's.

Trying to justify a man defending Hitler just because he's a right winger is really a new low. When did it get this bad for you guys?

[vesavius]

The left object to the fact that Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza, that doesn't make them Nazi's, quite the opposite actually. Say what you want about anti-zionism, but the fact of the matter is that Israel's actual actions are far more comparable to the Nazi's.

Trying to justify a man defending Hitler just because he's a right winger is really a new low. When did it get this bad for you guys?

Well, if criticising Islam make you 'racist' then criticising Zionism makes you antisemitic, sorry to say.

The thing is with Leftists is that they tend to reinvent words and move goal posts and definitions to suit themselves.

But... Nazi = national socialism

I didn't justify anything that George said.. L2R? I was simply attempting to clarify it for you. This is not the same thing.

I am deeply against antisemitism, which is why I am deeply critical of the modern Leftist/ Islamist alliance and their ongoing crusade against Jews.

I have been to the Palestine protests and I have seen the deeply anti semitic banners and heard the race baiting slogans. A lot of these people wish for a Jewish genocide, and the 'moderates' on the left pretend they are innocent and run block for them. Jews are being killed on our streets, and it isn't by anyone on the right.

Let's stop pretending that George saying Hitler was misguided is the problem (for some reason... I mean he literally said Hitler was misguided) and maybe look at what Islamo communists are actually doing in the real world and acknowledge the threat they pose to Jewish people here in the UK.

[Livia]

Great post vesavius

[Abra]

Well, if criticising Islam make you 'racist' then criticising Zionism makes you antisemitic, sorry to say.

The thing is with Leftists is that they tend to reinvent words and move goal posts and definitions to suit themselves.

But... Nazi = national socialism

I didn't justify anything that George said.. L2R? I was simply attempting to clarify it for you. This is not the same thing.

I am deeply against antisemitism, which is why I am deeply critical of the modern Leftist/ Islamist alliance and their ongoing crusade against Jews.

I have been to the Palestine protests and I have seen the deeply anti semitic banners and heard the race baiting slogans. A lot of these people wish for a Jewish genocide, and the 'moderates' on the left pretend they are innocent and run block for them. Jews are being killed on our streets, and it isn't by anyone on the right.

Let's stop pretending that George saying Hitler was misguided is the problem (for some reason... I mean he literally said Hitler was misguided) and maybe look at what Islamo communists are actually doing in the real world and acknowledge the threat they pose to Jewish people here in the UK.
Just to clarify. I am deeply against anti-semitism. I draw a clear distinction between Israel and Jewish people in general. My criticism of the genocidal state of Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people, of whom I have many friends and loved ones. I accept that anti-semitism is present as it always has been, but equally on the other side there are people who support the fact that Israel have been slaughtering thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies and that has drawn no condemnation from the right.

If you feel that people are wishing for a "Jewish genocide", then I assume you must condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza? Or is it okay to commit a genocide against one group of people but not another?

I mentioned George defending Hitler because that was brought up by the right wingers in this thread, not myself. I actually don't think it's very comparable to the topic of this thread either as Zelah's alleged comments about Charlie Kirk are nowhere near as bad.

[Livia]

The left object to the fact that Israel has committed a genocide in Gaza, that doesn't make them Nazi's, quite the opposite actually. Say what you want about anti-zionism, but the fact of the matter is that Israel's actual actions are far more comparable to the Nazi's.

Trying to justify a man defending Hitler just because he's a right winger is really a new low. When did it get this bad for you guys?

If you believe all Jews are responsible for Gaza. You must believe all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. Or, and this is more likely, you don't really know what T F you're talking about.

[Livia]

Just to clarify. I am deeply against anti-semitism. I draw a clear distinction between Israel and Jewish people in general. My criticism of the genocidal state of Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people, of whom I have many friends and loved ones. I accept that anti-semitism is present as it always has been, but equally on the other side there are people who support the fact that Israel have been slaughtering thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies and that has drawn no condemnation from the right.

If you feel that people are wishing for a "Jewish genocide", then I assume you must condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza? Or is it okay to commit a genocide against one group of people but not another?

I mentioned George defending Hitler because that was brought up by the right wingers in this thread, not myself. I actually don't think it's very comparable to the topic of this thread either as Zelah's alleged comments about Charlie Kirk are nowhere near as bad.

LMFAO @ your first sentence...

[Abra]

If you believe all Jews are responsible for Gaza. You must believe all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. Or, and this is more likely, you don't really know what T F you're talking about.

Can you point to where I said that Jews are responsible for Gaza? Oh no, you can't because you are just talking out of your arse once again. What a surprise.

[Abra]

LMFAO @ your first sentence...

Why?

[Cherry Christmas]

Will they play the conversation tonight? they cut away pretty fast on Friday so not sure they will

[Holly Christmas]

Comes in.... ooh some very rude posts in here aimed at Livia. I love her. Leave her be.

No need.

[bots]

Will they play the conversation tonight? they cut away pretty fast on Friday so not sure they will

no, that slipped through. They already decided to keep it from the viewers. Although if the intention was to protect Zelah's position in the house, thats gone now

[Abra]

Comes in.... ooh some very rude posts in here aimed at Livia. I love her. Leave her be.

No need.

Every time I have criticised Israel's genocide she has attempted to smear me with lies as an antisemite despite the fact I have never posted anything remotely anti-semitic. It's not acceptable and she should know better.

[Livia]

Comes in.... ooh some very rude posts in here aimed at Livia. I love her. Leave her be.

No need.

I've been insulted by really clever people, so someone who's not even a good amateur is like water off a duck's back. Thanks though, Katie x

[vesavius]

Just to clarify. I am deeply against anti-semitism. I draw a clear distinction between Israel and Jewish people in general. My criticism of the genocidal state of Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people, of whom I have many friends and loved ones. I accept that anti-semitism is present as it always has been, but equally on the other side there are people who support the fact that Israel have been slaughtering thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies and that has drawn no condemnation from the right.

I am very aware of propaganda in every war and I do not take the statements of Hamas as fact and I think it is ridiculous to do so. There have been a lot of lies told in this whole thing, many which the left has gobbled up because it suits their natural antisemitism. It is deeper than this war.. Look at how the Labour party has been repeatedly found guilty of it by investigation and fined for it. The left has a long standing problem with Jews and always has had. It didn't start with Gaza, and it has coloured everything regarding the war for them. Their alliance with radical Islam is based pretty much on it, because it's a shared view.

If you feel that people are wishing for a "Jewish genocide", then I assume you must condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza? Or is it okay to commit a genocide against one group of people but not another?

The current Gaza situation did not start with the Israeli action.

This particular action started with the slaughtering of 378 festival goers, the injuring of so many more, and the taking of 44 hostages (only of which 24 were rescued/ released after a horrifying captivity.. The rest died).

A UN fact finding mission confirms the use of violent rape and SA during that same attack, including gang rape. I won't go into more graphic details here regarding what went on during that day... It honestly makes horrific reading. It was pure barbarism.

You don't get to do that and then cry 'genocide' when your victim hits back. Of course there was going to be a retaliation and the use of human civilian shields means that Hamas was ready for that and ready to see it's own people die.

If another State attacked the UK and did this to us openly I would expect the U.K. to go to war over it.. Would you not?

[Abra]

I am very aware of propaganda in every war and I do not take the statements of Hamas as fact and I think it is ridiculous to do so. There have been a lot of lies told in this whole thing, many which the left has gobbled up because it suits their natural antisemitism. It is deeper than this war.. Look at how the Labour party has been repeatedly found guilty of it by investigation and fined for it. The left has a long standing problem with Jews and always has had. It didn't start with Gaza, and it has coloured everything regarding the war for them. Their alliance with radical Islam is based pretty much on it, because it's a shared view.



The current Gaza situation did not start with the Israeli action.

This particular action started with the slaughtering of 378 festival goers, the injuring of so many more, and the taking of 44 hostages (only of which 24 were rescued/ released after a horrifying captivity.. The rest died).

A UN fact finding mission confirms the use of violent rape and SA during that same attack, including gang rape. I won't go into more graphic details here regarding what went on during that day... It honestly makes horrific reading. It was pure barbarism.

You don't get to do that and then cry 'genocide' when your victim hits back. Of course there was going to retaliation and the use of human civilian shields means that Hamas was ready to see it's own people die.

If another State attacked the UK and did this to us openly I would expect the U.K. to go to war over it.. Would you not?

I absolutely condemn the October 7th attacks and I do not support Hamas, however there is no justification for genocide ever. Shocking that we live in a world where some people are still trying to excuse it.

If another state attacked the UK, no I would not support the UK committing a genocide against innocent civilians and murdering thousands of children. No, I would not.

[Abra]

I've been insulted by really clever people, so someone who's not even a good amateur is like water off a duck's back. Thanks though, Katie x

Notice how I asked you to point out where I was anti-semitic, and notice how you couldn't.

Maybe next time stop lying in an attempt to deflect from the uncomfortable truth that you don't like, just a suggestion.

[vesavius]

I absolutely condemn the October 7th attacks and I do not support Hamas, however there is no justification for genocide ever. Shocking that we live in a world where some people are still trying to excuse it.

If another state attacked the UK, no I would not support the UK committing a genocide against innocent civilians and murdering thousands of children. No, I would not.

It is not a 'genocide', that's just an emotive propaganda term used by the antisemite left and radical fundamentalist Muslims.

Hamas deliberately hid behind their own civilians and used them as a shield after performing the worst atrocities upon the civilians of Israel.

The suffering of civilians in this war did not start with the Israeli action. That action was literally triggered by the mass slaughter of civilians.

Look, I am sorry that what I say is shocking to you, but that's just because you aren't used to hearing it.. I personally do not believe that anyone regurgitating Hamas propaganda does not support Hamas and I do not believe that person has any kind of moral high ground over me in any of this.

Look, war is ****. Yes, I hope the cease fire holds because I want this particular one to be over and the death and suffering to stop. I sincerely hope that happens. But, what I won't do is paint the Palestinians as blameless angels (let's not even talk about LBGT rights and the treatment of women there...) and the Israelis as demonic bloodthirsty attack dogs like the Islamo-Left likes to do.

[Abra]

It is not a 'genocide', that's just an emotive propaganda term used by the antisemite left and radical fundamentalist Muslims.

Hamas deliberately hid behind their own civilians and used them as shield after performing the worst atrocities upon the civilians of Israel.

The suffering of civilians in this war did not start with the Israeli action. That action was literally triggered by the mass slaughter of civilians.

Look, I am sorry that what I say is shocking to you, but that's just because you aren't used to hearing it.. I personally do not believe that anyone regurgitating Hamas propaganda does not support Hamas and I do not believe that person has any kind of moral high ground over me in any of this.

Look, war is ****. Yes, I hope the cease fire holds because I want this particular one to be over and the death and suffering to stop. I sincerely hope that happens. But, what I won't do is paint the Palestinians as blameless angels (let's not even talk about LBGT rights and the treatment of women there...) and the Israelis as demonic bloodthirsty attack dogs like the Islamo-Left likes to do.

So loud and so wrong. Factually, it is a genocide. No amount of mental gymnastics or excuses will change that.

Unfortunately you have fallen for the Israeli propaganda machine. The fact that you don't even understand how you can be both anti-Hamas and the actions of Israel just show how short sighted your view is on this matter.

I absolutely am aware that LGBT and women's rights are diabolical in Palestine, as they are in many other places around the world, and I am not saying that every Palestinian person is a "blameless angel", but that doesn't excuse them being murdered. The fact that is used by you as an excuse to justify their slaughter is disturbing indeed. Palestinian babies who have been murdered in cold blood aren't discriminating against LGBT people and women. They were just born, and then Israel murdered them.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[vesavius]

So loud and so wrong.

So propagandised and so wrong

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I am ok with that.

[Livia]

Notice how I asked you to point out where I was anti-semitic, and notice how you couldn't.

Maybe next time stop lying in an attempt to deflect from the uncomfortable truth that you don't like, just a suggestion.

Maybe stop swallowing Hamas press releases whole, then regurgitating them on here and you won't look so silly. Just a suggestion.

[Liam-]

Every time I have criticised Israel's genocide she has attempted to smear me with lies as an antisemite despite the fact I have never posted anything remotely anti-semitic. It's not acceptable and she should know better.

It’s her routine and frankly I’m disgusted that the powers that be continue to allow her to get away with it, I wouldn’t even get into a discussion with her about anything if I were you, she’s utterly determined to paint everyone that disagrees with her and Israel’s actions as Jew haters, it’s hideous

[Abra]

Maybe stop swallowing Hamas press releases whole, then regurgitating them on here and you won't look so silly. Just a suggestion.

Nobody looks silly except you sweetheart. We're still waiting for you to point out where my posts were anti-semitic. It's been a few hours now and you've still produced absolutely nothing. Strange, huh?

Your desperate attempts at deflection are embarrassing and pitiful. If you can't debate without resorting to baseless lies then it's probably best for you to sit out these debates as you are clearly out of your depth.

[Abra]

It’s her routine and frankly I’m disgusted that the powers that be continue to allow her to get away with it, I wouldn’t even get into a discussion with her about anything if I were you, she’s utterly determined to paint everyone that disagrees with her and Israel’s actions as Jew haters, it’s hideous

Yeah it's so transparent, I mean it's one thing to be a genocide supporter, but add liar on top of that? Pick a struggle :laugh:

[Abra]

So propagandised and so wrong



I am ok with that.

You've been propagandised by the extreme right wing Israeli government into defending a genocide. The murder of thousands of innocent children that you're tripping over yourself to justify.

[vesavius]

You've been propagandised by the extreme right wing Israeli...

I thought we were leaving it and agreeing to disagree?

Yet, here you go again, on the attack. Not sure why you are trying to drag me back in.

But, ok, I actually don't see the need to carry on with this. I think we both understand the position of the other and there is no need to keep banging the same drum.

I'm gonna just move on. I have said what I wanted to say and I have been very clear. I don't really feel the need to rise to your baseless accusations past that :shrug:

[vesavius]

Maybe stop swallowing Hamas press releases whole, then regurgitating them on here and you won't look so silly. Just a suggestion.

Indeed.

[Abra]

I thought we were leaving it and agreeing to disagree?

Yet, here you go again, on the attack. Not sure why you are trying to drag me back in.

But, ok, I actually don't see the need to carry on with this. I think we both understand the position of the other and there is no need to keep banging the same drum.

I'm gonna just move on. I have said what I wanted to say and I have been very clear. I don't really feel the need to rise to your baseless accusations past that :shrug:

So I'm attacking you by highlighting the fact that you've been propagandised, but you aren't attacking me by saying the exact same thing? :conf::laugh:

You are welcome to not reply.

[vesavius]

So I'm attacking you by...

ok Abra. :rolleyes:

[Abra]

ok Abra. :rolleyes:

You and Livia both really struggle when presented with facts lol

[vesavius]

You and Livia both really struggle when presented with facts lol

good grief :joker:

It's like playing chess with a pigeon.

OK, that's enough though, this is degrading into a petty name calling session really fast. Have a great day Alba :)

[Abra]

good grief :joker:

It's like playing chess with a pigeon.

Yeah, I see that not replying thing is going really well for you

[Livia]

You and Livia both really struggle when presented with facts lol

Dear Mr Kettle,

You are black.

Love from
Mr Pot.

[vesavius]

Dear Mr Kettle,

You are black.

Love from
Mr Pot.

:joker:

[Parmy]

Comes in.... ooh some very rude posts in here aimed at Livia. I love her. Leave her be.

No need.

If idiots see enough flags in support of something they will join like lemmings on a cliff edge.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Yeah… raise the colours says hi :joker:

[Parmy]

I don't raise flags nor follow LGBTQ blindly because they have flags.

I call Britain out, you would never call out anyone under your flags.(maybe lesbians at a push, for you personally) but in general you don't, you can't.

Just look at the British government at the moment. The most sickly looking bunch of hypocrites and saps I've ever witnessed Britain's leaders are pathetic.


You see, Glenn, that's how easy it is to call your flag out for it for being ****.

[Good King Glennceslas]

I don't raise flags nor follow LGBTQ blindly because they have flags.

I call Britain out, you would never call out anyone under your flags.(maybe lesbians at a push, for you personally) but in general you don't, you can't.

Just look at the British government at the moment. The most sickly looking bunch of hypocrites and saps I've ever witnessed Britain's leaders are pathetic.


You see, Glenn, that's how easy it is to call your flag out for it for being ****.


This is you being an idiot lemming over the other idiot lemmings hanging flags

What's currently happening with the raising of the colours is happening in conjunction with and alongside anti-migrant rhetoric.







And Labour's attack on free speech. Which is what the organisers are saying it's about...but you won't accept that cause you are to tied up in the point the finger and shout racist rhetoric that is used by protesters who refuse to talk.

The man who was a member of the EDL, is linked with Britain First and was jailed for affray due to his part in a race-related killing? Sorry if I don't believe him when he says it's not about immigration. Question is, why do you?



The woeley warriors were the first to raise the flags, and they did it to stick 2 fingers up at the government and to take the flag back from the racists.

would say in the current climate, it's a counter protest against the intentions behind many people putting them up. In any normal situation, when it's not linked with a far-right racist criminal, or not linked with anti-immigration messaging, or not hung outside mosques to intimidate, that, yes, the pulling down of a national flag flown for patriotic reasons is unpatriotic and hateful.




So how do they decipher who's flags whose....or do they just trample over the many, hoping it effects the few?




And stick your sly pathetic little dig at the end where the sun don't shine.

You won't see me saying anything else....although it is patriotic people doing it.

So BBXX

I'm assuming you know your neighbour?

So with that you accept they have a flag in their garden because they are patriotic?

Yet all these other people putting up flags that you don't know are doing it to protest against immigrants and in doing so, to further make them feel unwelcome even though those people you don't know are saying it's against the government's attack on free speech?


Is that correct?

The free speech thing is why they are going up.


And the video in the op shows why. You simply don't get the leeway the left get from the police if you are draped in an English or British flag. The flags started going up when the left counter protesters at the hotels were being bussed in and out to confront the concerned locals by the police themselves.

The other video posted yesterday further proves the 2 tier policing when the police arrested the one man being surrounded kicked and punched by a terrorist organisations supporters, rather than arresting them.

You can't call people agitators just because other people can't hack the sight of their own nation's flag.

[vesavius]

This is you being an idiot lemming

Dude, chill.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Dude, chill.

Dismissing evidence isn’t critical thinking. But thanks for your input :thumbs:

[vesavius]

Dismissing evidence isn’t critical thinking. But thanks for your input :thumbs:

what? :joker::joker::joker:

All I was saying is.. Ok, no, nevermind. carry on, it's entertaining.

[Parmy]

Dismissing evidence isn’t critical thinking. But thanks for your input :thumbs:


The woeley warriors were the first to raise the flags, and they did it to stick 2 fingers up at the government and to take the flag back from the racists.




Exactly what I said before you copy and pasted your big black book.

[Good King Glennceslas]

:joker: :joker:

The whole movement (which you defended) was your very definition of idiots following each other off a cliff.

[vesavius]

:joker: :joker:

The whole movement (which you defended) was your very definition of idiots following each other off a cliff.

TBF, RTF hasn't gone over a cliff at all.

And Wokeism has def focused around flags, while calling others 'flag shaggers', which is really weird. I guess it comes down to them liking the flag in question or not.

The point being, all the sides involved have a flag so it's probably better to move on from flags and focus on the actual issues at hand.

[Parmy]

:joker: :joker:

The whole movement (which you defended) was your very definition of idiots following each other off a cliff.



I would say they are more climbing the cliff, rather than following any old LGBTQ+ flag off the edge of one.

[Good King Glennceslas]

:joker: :joker:

Sure.

[Parmy]

:joker: :joker:

Sure.



They also make it impossible for truce and compromise between left and right with their selfishness and sheer hatred for anyone with the one flag they can't stand.

They will be left behind when true supporters of both sides unite eventually to get this government out.

[Good King Glennceslas]

:skull:

[vesavius]

They also make it impossible for truce and compromise between left and right with their selfishness and sheer hatred for anyone with the one flag they can't stand.

They will be left behind when true supporters of both sides unite eventually to get this government out.

I think there is truth to this

[Abra]

Dear Mr Kettle,

You are black.

Love from
Mr Pot.

You haven't posted any facts though? :conf:

Still waiting on you pointing out those anti-semitic comments by the way. How strange that you have been unable to produce them. Could it be that you lied once again? Shocking.

[Livia]

You haven't posted any facts though? :conf:

Still waiting on you pointing out those anti-semitic comments by the way. How strange that you have been unable to produce them. Could it be that you lied once again? Shocking.

I lied once again? LOL... Nice trolling, troll.

Acquaint yourself with what anti-Semitism is. Find out the facts for yourself instead of being a sheep. Google it FFS. You seem pretty clear in your adoration of the death cult that runs Gaza. Surely you wouldn't back them blindly without having found out all the facts, would you? You accept their press releases and their claims on a whim? You accepted the "thousands of dead babies" claim that was repeated in the UN and British parliament before it was proven to be a lie. But that won't deter people like you, you're convinced. Surely you have a suitable answer to this question: there are more tunnels under Gaza than the London Underground so why didn't Hamas allow Gazans to shelter in them? (Spoiler alert, it's because dead bodies make great press for people like you). Yet you need me to tell you what anti-Semitism is.

I'm not here to educate you, and you wouldn't listen anyway.

[Abra]

I lied once again? LOL... Nice trolling, troll.

Acquaint yourself with what anti-Semitism is. Find out the facts for yourself instead of being a sheep. Google it FFS. You seem pretty clear in your adoration of the death cult that runs Gaza. Surely you wouldn't back them blindly without having found out all the facts, would you? You accept their press releases and their claims on a whim? You accepted the "thousands of dead babies" claim that was repeated in the UN and British parliament before it was proven to be a lie. But that won't deter people like you, you're convinced. Surely you have a suitable answer to this question: there are more tunnels under Gaza than the London Underground so why didn't Hamas allow Gazans to shelter in them? (Spoiler alert, it's because dead bodies make great press for people like you). Yet you need me to tell you what anti-Semitism is.

I'm not here to educate you, and you wouldn't listen anyway.

Notice how you typed all of this bullshit but you were still unable to provide those anti-semitic comments I asked you to show.

Shocking :laugh:

[Good King Glennceslas]

Oop

[vesavius]

I lied once again? LOL... Nice trolling, troll.

Acquaint yourself with what anti-Semitism is. Find out the facts for yourself instead of being a sheep. Google it FFS. You seem pretty clear in your adoration of the death cult that runs Gaza. Surely you wouldn't back them blindly without having found out all the facts, would you? You accept their press releases and their claims on a whim? You accepted the "thousands of dead babies" claim that was repeated in the UN and British parliament before it was proven to be a lie. But that won't deter people like you, you're convinced. Surely you have a suitable answer to this question: there are more tunnels under Gaza than the London Underground so why didn't Hamas allow Gazans to shelter in them? (Spoiler alert, it's because dead bodies make great press for people like you). Yet you need me to tell you what anti-Semitism is.

I'm not here to educate you, and you wouldn't listen anyway.

/signed

[Abra]

Oop

You can tell she hasn't quite realised yet that the days of just smearing anyone who disagrees with Israel's genocide and crimes against humanity as an antisemite are long over and people just aren't falling for it anymore. The jig is up but I guess the shock that those tactics don't work anymore takes a while to sink in.

[vesavius]

You can tell she hasn't quite realised yet that the days of just smearing anyone who disagrees with Israel's genocide and crimes against humanity as an antisemite are long over and people just aren't falling for it anymore. The jig is up but I guess the shock that those tactics don't work anymore takes a while to sink in.

The fact that you parrot Hamas propaganda makes you an antisemite.

I mean, I get that you claim deniability by saying 'of course I don't support Hamas', but you objectively do.

You handwave the atrocities of the event that started all of this current action as if they don't even matter.

You clearly support the erasure of Israel, 'from the river to the sea', the only homeland of the Jewish people on Earth, and the cause of fundamentalist Islam in seeking that.

If Israel ceases to exist, where else are the Jewish people meant to go, because Muslims have ethnically purged them from north Africa and the Middle-East.

For reference, Gaza has seen a -6% shrinkage since the start of this action, including those who have simply left.

https://i.ibb.co/Mxk3RsTp/jewish-population-across-15-muslim-countries-v0-sutx47f6s5kc1.webp (https://ibb.co/nNM5Db2f)

So, yes, if you are already an antisemite maybe stop denying it and just own it, because the Islamist/ Leftist alliance that you prop up has no problems with it, as I have already demonstrated (which you swerved addressing).

Stop demanding evidence if you are just going to ignore it.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

*waits for

"But the UN stated"

😅

[Merry Mockmas]

Just to clarify. I am deeply against anti-semitism. I draw a clear distinction between Israel and Jewish people in general. My criticism of the genocidal state of Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people, of whom I have many friends and loved ones. I accept that anti-semitism is present as it always has been, but equally on the other side there are people who support the fact that Israel have been slaughtering thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies and that has drawn no condemnation from the right.

If you feel that people are wishing for a "Jewish genocide", then I assume you must condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza? Or is it okay to commit a genocide against one group of people but not another?

I mentioned George defending Hitler because that was brought up by the right wingers in this thread, not myself. I actually don't think it's very comparable to the topic of this thread either as Zelah's alleged comments about Charlie Kirk are nowhere near as bad.

It's a lot closer than you're making it out to be.

If Emily is telling the truth, Zelah thinks that the world is a better place without Charlie Kirk purely because of his Political beliefs. Which is pretty bad imo, given the fact that Charlie Kirk never actually harmed anyone and was never directly working for the Government.

Both comments sound pretty evil to me tbh, but at least George did have the decency to call Hitler's actions misguided at least.

[vesavius]

It's a lot closer than you're making it out to be.

If Emily is telling the truth, Zelah thinks that the world is a better place without Charlie Kirk purely because of his Political beliefs. Which is pretty bad imo

Yeah, condoning or running block for political violence and assassinations is just bad.

[Abra]

The fact that you parrot Hamas propaganda makes you an antisemite.

I mean, I get that you claim deniability by saying 'of course I don't support Hamas', but you objectively do.

You handwave the atrocities of the event that started all of this current action as if they don't even matter.

You clearly support the erasure of Israel, 'from the river to the sea', the only homeland of the Jewish people on Earth, and the cause of fundamentalist Islam in seeking that.

If Israel ceases to exist, where else are the Jewish people meant to go, because Muslims have ethnically purged them from north Africa and the Middle-East.

For reference, Gaza has seen a -6% shrinkage since the start of this action, including those who have simply left.

https://i.ibb.co/Mxk3RsTp/jewish-population-across-15-muslim-countries-v0-sutx47f6s5kc1.webp (https://ibb.co/nNM5Db2f)

So, yes, if you are already an antisemite maybe stop denying it and just own it, because the Islamist/ Leftist alliance that you prop up has no problems with it, as I have already demonstrated (which you swerved addressing).

Stop demanding evidence if you are just going to ignore it.

It's kinda wild that according to you being against genocide is an anti-Jew sentiment. And I'M supposed to be the antisemite? :joker:

And again, it's not "Hamas propaganda" that Israel has committed a genocide. This is a fact. Sorry that it makes you mad that your censorship and smear tactics don't work.

Also absolutely nowhere have you seen me call for the eradication of Israel so once again just more lies and baseless smears :laugh: You guys can't help yourselves

The irony of you having the nerve to talk about a homeland, meanwhile Israel has been bombing and slaughtering Palestinians in their own homeland, including innocent babies. If I'm an antisemite, then you love the murder of muslim babies.

[Abra]

*waits for

"But the UN stated"

😅

This just in:

TiBB user "Crimson Dynamo" thinks they are a more reliable source than the UN

:joker::joker::joker:

[Parmy]

You can tell she hasn't quite realised yet that the days of just smearing anyone who disagrees with Israel's genocide and crimes against humanity as an antisemite are long over and people just aren't falling for it anymore. The jig is up but I guess the shock that those tactics don't work anymore takes a while to sink in.

If you had as much to say about places like Sudan or Syria where genocide is actually happening, there would be no reason to pint out your anti semitism. You don't judge those countries, but you are hell bent in judging israel and judging Livia. All because of the Jewish angle.


Go bully someone else, somewhere else. Your creepiness is worrying.

[Livia]

The radicalisation of the West's Left is complete. The terrorist regimes of the Middle East will be dancing in the streets and firing their AKs in the air. Well, the men will. Not the women, obviously...

[Abra]

If you had as much to say about places like Sudan or Syria where genocide is actually happening, there would be no reason to pint out your anti semitism. You don't judge those countries, but you are hell bent in judging israel and judging Livia. All because of the Jewish angle.


Go bully someone else, somewhere else. Your creepiness is worrying.

I didn't raise the topic of Israel in this thread, this was first brought up here by the user vesavius, which is why we are discussing Israel's genocide here, and the fact that the same people who are baselessly smearing others as antisemites are also performing mental gymnastics to justify a man defending Hitler (and yet act completely obtuse to the irony and comical hypocrisy of that). Please try to keep up and not just continue with the deflection in an attempt to silence people from discussing Israel's genocide. Many thanks.

"Don't look at this genocide! Look over there!" :joker:

[Livia]

I would lay a month's salary that all your "Jewish friends" are... fictitious.

[Abra]

I would lay a month's salary that all your "Jewish friends" are... fictitious.

:conf:

How very odd, especially considering that there are plenty of Jewish people who oppose Israel's genocide, some of whom are even within Israel. Please do not assume that all Jewish people are genocide supporters or that all Jewish people think in a monolithic way, that is deeply antisemitic.

Perhaps it's a generational thing and you think that you represent and speak on behalf of Jewish people. You don't.

[Parmy]

Providing aid and food, and pre warnings of strikes to the people you are supposed to be exterminating is a strange way to go about completing a genocide.

[Abra]

Providing aid and food, and pre warnings of strikes to the people you are supposed to be exterminating is a strange way to go about completing a genocide.

You forgot to mention all the times they blocked food and aid, murdered journalists, and bombed designated safe zones but okay genocide supporter

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Providing aid and food, and pre warnings of strikes to the people you are supposed to be exterminating is a strange way to go about completing a genocide.

:nono:

Have you not been listening to the Hamas UN MSM propaganda?

they said it was a genocide

[Abra]

:nono:

Have you not been listening to the Hamas UN MSM propaganda?

they said it was a genocide

Mate, everything that isn't spewed out by the right wing media is propaganda according to you. The tens of thousands of dead Palestinians just disappeared into thin air :thumbs:

[Parmy]

You forgot to mention all the times they blocked food and aid, murdered journalists, and bombed designated safe zones but okay genocide supporter

Blocked aid because it was unsafe because of Hamas looters taking it for themselves, starving the peope they claim to protect by doing so.


Journalists dying is unfortunately a casualty of war, difference between them and the civilians is journalists chose to be there whilst Hamas forced their civilians to remain there so their inevitable deaths could be used fur propeganda purposes.


Safe spaces? Designated safe spaces! You mean the hospitals Hamas run their terror from. The same places Israel still gave pre strike warning for, even though it could give Hamas to evacuate from. Which they did, they just forgot to take the Palestinian people with them.

This is all on Hamas, all on their actions in the october massacres. I think you should do a bit of research into how the Palestinian people unlucky enough to be filmed thanking Israel and the USA for the aid they received are now being treated by Hamas, the same Hamas you continually won't slander.

[Parmy]

Abra

You can start here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1oal7vk/hamas_enforcers_break_legs_of_gazan_man_for/

[Abra]

Blocked aid because it was unsafe because of Hamas looters taking it for themselves, starving the peope they claim to protect by doing so.


Journalists dying is unfortunately a casualty of war, difference between them and the civilians is journalists chose to be there whilst Hamas forced their civilians to remain there so their inevitable deaths could be used fur propeganda purposes.


Safe spaces? Designated safe spaces! You mean the hospitals Hamas run their terror from. The same places Israel still gave pre strike warning for, even though it could give Hamas to evacuate from. Which they did, they just forgot to take the Palestinian people with them.

This is all on Hamas, all on their actions in the october massacres. I think you should do a bit of research into how the Palestinian people unlucky enough to be filmed thanking Israel and the USA for the aid they received are now being treated by Hamas, the same Hamas you continually won't slander.
The laundry list of excuses for Israel's war crimes :joker::joker::joker:

Israel bombed the safe spaces that it told Palestinian civilians to go to itself. That's not even mentioning that civilians waving white flags who were gunned down and murdered by the IDF, the fact that Israel created a man made famine to starve Palestinian's to death, the bombing of school shelters knowingly murdering innocent children.

You're obviously just completely brainwashed by the propaganda Israel has promoted to justify its genocide and many war crimes. Luckily, your kind is becoming more and more rare and the world isn't falling for your lies anymore.
No amount of propaganda you parrot will change the facts and I'm sorry that that bothers you.

[Abra]

Abra

You can start here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1oal7vk/hamas_enforcers_break_legs_of_gazan_man_for/

Ohhh I see.... you get your unverified information from X and Reddit. That explains SO much :laugh:

[Parmy]

Ohhh I see.... you get your unverified information from X and Reddit. That explains SO much :laugh:

Unfortunately for you, no. No I don't. I just copied this link from there rather than sending you to the place u get my news from.


But no need to dismiss it before watching..just cause it's a clip on X. That would mean you only listen to wherever you get your news from, and that would prove alll along that you only listen to what that want a to show you, wh8ch can become a one sided take on things, which I believe is where you're at regarding this issue.


No, your gotcha didn't work, it was merely taken from their after a quick search for the video led me to pick the first one I came across. Simple as that.


I dont even think its the whole clip (not watched) the whole shows both his torture and his praise for America and Israel...


Ps, it's far from an isolated incident either.


Perhaps you should be saying free Palestine from Hamas.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Ohhh I see.... you get your unverified information from X and Reddit. That explains SO much :laugh:

Not forgetting ring wing auditors on YT!

[Parmy]

Starving children, being eradicated through a genocide...still got time for school.


And we are supposed to believe that..

Ycnmiu

[Parmy]

Not forgetting ring wing auditors on YT!

I will ignore someone still willing to believe the paedo protecting main news channels as they sit gaping and guzzling down the last remains of whatever starmers balls want them to believe.

[Good King Glennceslas]

You didn’t though…

[Abra]

Not forgetting ring wing auditors on YT!

Yeah, I shouldn't be surprised, it's always the same types :laugh:

[Abra]

Starving children, being eradicated through a genocide...still got time for school.


And we are supposed to believe that..

Ycnmiu

Once again just proving how absolutely clueless and ignorant you are :laugh: When I mentioned schools I was referring to the schools that were being used as shelters, unfortunately Israel bombed them and murdered the civilians though. Stick to your echo chamber of X and Reddit and maybe then you won't look so silly when presented with cold hard facts that you trip over yourself trying to defend.

[vesavius]

I would lay a month's salary that all your "Jewish friends" are... fictitious.

A years salary

[Parmy]

Once again just proving how absolutely clueless and ignorant you are :laugh: When I mentioned schools I was referring to the schools that were being used as shelters, unfortunately Israel bombed them and murdered the civilians though. Stick to your echo chamber of X and Reddit and maybe then you won't look so silly when presented with cold hard facts that you trip over yourself trying to defend.


I'm not saying Israel aint done wrong at times...but its war...I'm saying it's not genocide..Cause it isn't.


Where do you get your news from...I'm not even on Twitter, never have beeen..wouldn't give Elon my cash, unlike Glenn who will suckle the devil's teat for anything.

So yeah, like I've explained and you've ignored...I don't get my news from those 2 sites.. I am however eager to know where you get yours...are you brave enough to say?


And also...what do you mean by "the same types"


It's rhetoric like that which shows intolerance for dialogue and truce, for a coming together..


I'm not Jewish btw, if it was that you meant.

[Parmy]

And nothing to say yet about Hamas torturing the Palestinians yet...colour me shocked!!!
Abra, nothing? Nothing to say, no!

[vesavius]

And nothing to say yet about Hamas torturing the Palestinians yet...colour me shocked!!!
Abra, nothing? Nothing to say, no!

Maybe they need to yeet a few more LGBT off rooftops over there for it to register with Abra, not sure. :shrug:

[Parmy]

Maybe they need to yeet a few more LGBT off rooftops over there for it to register with Abra, not sure. :shrug:

From what I've seen from the LGBTQ brigade on the free Palestine marches in the UK it makes zero difference. They only care when it backs up their narrative. The Palestinian gays are sacrificial lambs in their eyes. And should be ignored at all costs.

[vesavius]

From what I've seen from the LGBTQ brigade on the free Palestine marches in the UK it makes zero difference. They only care when it backs up there narrative. The Palestinian gays are sacrificial lambs in their eyes. And should be ignored at all costs.

Yeah, agree.

They need to look up Iran 1979 for what inevitably happens to the Left in any 'alliance' with an Islamist state though

"Following the 1979 revolution, the left was systematically purged by the new Islamic government, with leftist parties banned, leaders arrested, and many executed. The left's initial support for Ayatollah Khomeini's anti-imperialist stance contributed to their eventual downfall, as clerical factions used their power to eliminate rivals and establish a theocratic state based on "guardianship of the Islamic jurist" "


"We are on the same side bro!"
"No we are not"

[Parmy]

I'm sure the Nazis were a left wing, jew hating party as well.


Alll these idiots dressed in black are just your modern day 1970s skinheads.

[vesavius]

I'm sure the Nazis were a left wing, jew hating party as well.

Alll these idiots dressed in black are just your modern day 1970s skinheads.

I think that there is a solid argument to be made that many that still perceive themselves as 'socialists' have been successfully moved over into becoming fascists.

They are ideological branches on the same tree after all and very similar in most ways. There is a reason that most notable fascist voices started off as socialists (inc. Mussolini, ofc).

I won't even get into the parallels between Islamism and Fascism.

[Parmy]

Anarchists as well. Don't forget the anarchists.

[vesavius]

Anarchists as well. Don't forget the anarchists.

Yeah, those idiots are just there to burn it all down, they'll support whatever cause that let's them go out onto the streets and kick off.

[Abra]

I'm not saying Israel aint done wrong at times...but its war...I'm saying it's not genocide..Cause it isn't.


Where do you get your news from...I'm not even on Twitter, never have beeen..wouldn't give Elon my cash, unlike Glenn who will suckle the devil's teat for anything.

So yeah, like I've explained and you've ignored...I don't get my news from those 2 sites.. I am however eager to know where you get yours...are you brave enough to say?


And also...what do you mean by "the same types"


It's rhetoric like that which shows intolerance for dialogue and truce, for a coming together..


I'm not Jewish btw, if it was that you meant.
Many human rights organisations (including ones within Israel), genocide scholars, and the UN have all declared that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Right wing media and brainwashed users on TiBB are not going to change those facts. All of the evidence points to Israel deliberately targeting civilians, obstructing aid, and withholding basic necessities resulting in a man made famine which has starved many people including innocent children to death. And that's the hill you are willing to die on for a situation you clearly don't understand or actively support.

You can deflect and deny all you want, it will not change the facts.

Nowhere did I suggest you are Jewish, so I'm not sure where you got that from either and it wouldn't make a difference either way. This is not a discussion about Jewish people. This is a discussion about the fact that Israel is committing a genocide.

[Abra]

And nothing to say yet about Hamas torturing the Palestinians yet...colour me shocked!!!
Abra, nothing? Nothing to say, no!

I have already stated numerous times that I don't support Hamas, and if I was up to me they would not have any control in Gaza, but once again, there you are with your typical smear tactics. Still not changing the facts though :blush:

[Abra]

Maybe they need to yeet a few more LGBT off rooftops over there for it to register with Abra, not sure. :shrug:

Such a lazy, predictable, and dumb argument.

There are people all over the world who don't support LGBTQ rights, that doesn't mean that I support a genocide being committed against them. Do you really think that there are no LGBTQ people living in Gaza who have been victims of Israel's genocide? How ignorant and narrow minded do you have to be to actually make this argument earnestly?

What have the innocent children that Israel have murdered done against LGBTQ people?

But this post proves my point anyway, that because you deem Palestinians as less worthy of life than you, you are comfortable with a genocide being committed against them. Of course you can't admit that openly, so you will come out with pages and pages of bullshit deflection that nobody falls for, but that is the truth. Just because you support the slaughter of innocent babies, don't expect everybody to do the same.

[vesavius]

Such a lazy, predictable, and dumb argument.


I just find the atrocities that you are willing ignore to be quite amazing, just because they are inflicted on Jews.

Such performative selective outrage.

I am very comfortable with military actions against a hostile terrorist group that targets civilians in the most barbaric way, yes.

Look, whose fault is it when, after instigating this situation and murdering hundreds and raping with free abandon, those terrorists then deliberately hide in the civilian population in order to use them as shields? Human shields.

Of course there will be civilian casualties in that situation. They know that when they do it and they know useful idiots in the West will act outraged when those civilians are inevitably hurt in the crossfire. In fact, they bank on it. It is literally the plan.. To sacrifice their own people for Western moral outrage and, like well trained dogs, the antisemite Leftists oblige.

If Hamas had not murdered and raped hundreds and taken (brutally treated) hostages at the Nova festival this war would never have started. They chose to do that, they chose to hide among civilians,so they have to be held accountable for what follows.

You are mad at the wrong people for this particular war. :shrug:

I have already stated numerous times that I don't support Hamas

But, the thing is that no one believes you because you clearly do.

You literally parrot their propaganda and ignore or run block for the atrocities they inflict.

You give off that, "I'm not racist, but.." energy. You have even implied the "I can't be antisemite, I have Jewish friends.." cliche.

[Abra]

I just find the atrocities that you are willing ignore to be quite amazing, just because they are inflicted on Jews.

Such performative selective outrage.

I am very comfortable with military actions against a hostile terrorist group that targets civilians in the most barbaric way, yes.

Look, whose fault is it when, after instigating this situation and murdering hundreds and raping with free abandon, those terrorists then deliberately hide in the civilian population in order to use them as shields? Human shields.

Of course there will be civilian casualties in that situation. They know that when they do it and they know useful idiots in the West will act outraged when those civilians are inevitably hurt in the crossfire. In fact, they bank on it. It is literally the plan.. To sacrifice their own people for Western moral outrage and, like well trained dogs, the antisemite Leftists oblige.

If Hamas had not murdered and raped hundreds and taken (brutally treated) hostages at the Nova festival this war would never have started. They chose to do that, they chose to hide among civilians,so they have to be held accountable for what follows.

You are mad at the wrong people for this particular war. :shrug:

Israel also targets civilians that are not Hamas, so that argument falls flat on its face too. At least you finally admitted that you support innocent people and babies being murdered. Absolutely disgusting, but at least you finally admitted it. Just proves how silly the dancing around your true feelings for the last few pages in this thread were.

I condemned the October 7th attacks at the time and I still do, but Hamas being awful as well doesn't give Israel the right to commit a genocide.

The whataboutism just simply doesn't work when talking about a genocide.

Reading your posts and your bloodthirst for Palestinians is certainly disturbing, but I'm comforted by the fact that your kind really is a dying breed, so to speak, evidenced by the fact that global support for Israel has completely plummeted and is at an absolute all time low. Blaming everything on lefties has really run it's course. The world just isn't buying your lies anymore.

[Abra]

I just find the atrocities that you are willing ignore to be quite amazing, just because they are inflicted on Jews.

Such performative selective outrage.

I am very comfortable with military actions against a hostile terrorist group that targets civilians in the most barbaric way, yes.

Look, whose fault is it when, after instigating this situation and murdering hundreds and raping with free abandon, those terrorists then deliberately hide in the civilian population in order to use them as shields? Human shields.

Of course there will be civilian casualties in that situation. They know that when they do it and they know useful idiots in the West will act outraged when those civilians are inevitably hurt in the crossfire. In fact, they bank on it. It is literally the plan.. To sacrifice their own people for Western moral outrage and, like well trained dogs, the antisemite Leftists oblige.

If Hamas had not murdered and raped hundreds and taken (brutally treated) hostages at the Nova festival this war would never have started. They chose to do that, they chose to hide among civilians,so they have to be held accountable for what follows.

You are mad at the wrong people for this particular war. :shrug:



But, the thing is that no one believes you because you clearly do.

You literally parrot their propaganda and ignore or run block for the atrocities they inflict.

You give off that, "I'm not racist, but.." energy. You have even implied the "I can't be antisemite, I have Jewish friends.." cliche.

The irony of you talking about propaganda, meanwhile parroting Israeli propaganda in an attempt to silence people from talking about Israel's genocide :joker::joker::joker:

I don't particularly care about your baseless attacks on me or what you believe and what you don't, I'm more interested in the fact that you support babies being murdered and what went wrong for you to land you in that place.

[Parmy]

I have already stated numerous times that I don't support Hamas, and if I was up to me they would not have any control in Gaza, but once again, there you are with your typical smear tactics. Still not changing the facts though :blush:

If it was up to you they would have no control in Gaza. You should be thanking Israel.

[Parmy]

If you wqnt to see what modern day genocide looks like go search Sudan videos. Even on Facebook there are hundreds showing mass live burials and mass burning.

[vesavius]

The irony of you talking about propaganda, meanwhile parroting Israeli propaganda in an attempt to silence people from talking about Israel's genocide :joker::joker::joker:

I don't particularly care about your baseless attacks on me or what you believe and what you don't, I'm more interested in the fact that you support babies being murdered and what went wrong for you to land you in that place.

Again, I say it's like arguing with a pigeon.

"Palestinian suicide attacks, mainly directed at Israeli civilians,[60][61] began in the 1990s and peaked during the Second Intifada (2000–2005).[62] According to Amnesty International, between 2000 and 2004, "more than 100 Israeli children... [were] killed and hundreds of others injured in suicide bombings, shootings and other attacks carried out by Palestinian armed groups in Israel and in the Occupied Territories."

Again, I also say such selective performative outrage. As long as it is inflicted on jews it is clearly alright for you. This is why you are (correctly) being called an antisemite here.

Yes, Hamas as well as being willing to sacrifice their own children also deliberately target Jewish children.

These are the people you are propping up? What's your next play here?

[vesavius]

If you wqnt to see what modern day genocide looks like go search Sudan videos. Even on Facebook there are hundreds showing mass live burials.

Yeah, that **** is beyond barbaric.

But, it doesn't give the Islamo-leftists a chance to hate Jews, so... *crickets*

[Abra]

Again, I say it's like arguing with a pigeon.

"Palestinian suicide attacks, mainly directed at Israeli civilians,[60][61] began in the 1990s and peaked during the Second Intifada (2000–2005).[62] According to Amnesty International, between 2000 and 2004, "more than 100 Israeli children... [were] killed and hundreds of others injured in suicide bombings, shootings and other attacks carried out by Palestinian armed groups in Israel and in the Occupied Territories."

Again, I also say such selective performative outrage. As long as it is inflicted on jews it is clearly alright for you. This is why you are (correctly) being called an antisemite here.

Yes, Hama as well as being willing to sacrifice their own also deliberately target children.

What's your next play here?

Again, just more deflection.

You can't play gotcha when I have already said I'm not a Hamas supporter, it's clearly getting under your skin a lot because your arguments are becoming even more flimsy and pathetic.

Attacks that happened against Israeli's are awful and reprehensible as I have already stated many times, but we are are discussing Israel's genocide in Gaza. You can't justify a genocide no matter how hard you try. It's impossible.

Nobody is going to listen to moral grandstanding from someone who openly supports babies being murdered. Again, there is a reason why Israel has never been so globally hated as it is now, and you can't just blame everything on the lefties that Reddit told you to hate.

[vesavius]

Again, just more deflection.

It isn't a 'gotcha'... You asked for facts and evidence and I give them to you, and then you handwave them away because they don't suit your programmed narrative.

[Abra]

If you wqnt to see what modern day genocide looks like go search Sudan videos. Even on Facebook there are hundreds showing mass live burials and mass burning.

The world is a ****ed up place, we know. Interestingly, you only seem to highlight that when trying to deflect from Israel's genocide in Gaza.

Once again....

"Don't look at this genocide! Look over there!"

:whistle:

[Abra]

It isn't a 'gotcha'... You asked for facts and evidence and I give them to you, and then you handwave them away because they don't suit your programmed narrative.

Maybe you struggle with reading comprehension, but I addressed that and said that I think it was awful.

I know it's absolutely killing you that none of your desperate attempts at deflection and smearing are working :laugh:

[vesavius]

The world is a ****ed up place, we know.

How easily you just ignore atrocities when they are against Jews and Jewish children.


This is why no one here is trusting anything that you write.

Providing supported facts and evidence is now 'smearing'... This is why no one bothers to give you any here, because you don't actually want it unless it suits your programmed narrative.

[Abra]

How easily you just ignore atrocities when they are against Jews and Jewish children.


This is why no one here is trusting anything that you write.

You just made that up :joker: How am I ignoring that when I'm categorically saying that I condemn that and think it's awful?

Once again...smear smear smear... deflect deflect deflect.

And by "no one here" you must mean the same three people that are dwelling with you inside your echo chamber? :joker:

There are users on here, including in this thread, who aren't brainwashed baby murder supporters like yourself, so that's another blatant lie that we can add to the list of many you have posted.

Why on earth would I care about what a few delusional users on TiBB think when the world largely agrees with me?

[vesavius]

Once again...smear smear smear... deflect deflect deflect.

Why on earth would I care about what a few delusional users on TiBB think when the world largely agrees with me?

OK, I can tell that you are out of gas now and running on fumes.

That's enough for tonight I think.

[Abra]

OK, I can tell that you are out of gas now and running on fumes.

That's enough for tonight I think.

No, you can't. You are just trying to save face because you know that your desperate attempts at deflection and smearing aren't working.

Bye bye

[Parmy]

The world is a ****ed up place, we know. Interestingly, you only seem to highlight that when trying to deflect from Israel's genocide in Gaza.

Once again....

"Don't look at this genocide! Look over there!"

:whistle:



I highlighted it because you seem to be unaware of it.

[Parmy]

Yeah, that **** is beyond barbaric.

But, it doesn't give the Islamo-leftists a chance to hate Jews, so... *crickets*

Couldn't agree more.

[Abra]

I highlighted it because you seem to be unaware of it.

How would you know what I'm aware of? That's just your imagination running away with you again. Of course I'm aware of what is happening in other parts of the world. We are talking about Israel's genocide in Gaza in this thread because that was brought up in this thread not by me. Discussing one genocide, doesn't mean that you deny the existence of another. Are you able to understand that?

Another attempt at a gotcha from you failed miserably.

[Parmy]

How would you know what I'm aware of? That's just your imagination running away with you again. Of course I'm aware of what is happening in other parts of the world. We are talking about Israel's genocide in Gaza in this thread because that was brought up in this thread not by me. Discussing one genocide, doesn't mean that you deny the existence of another. Are you able to understand that?

Another attempt at a gotcha from you failed miserably.




How would I know what you are aware of.


How would you know I'm whatever type of person you havnt let me know yet.:shrug:

[Parmy]

How would you know what I'm aware of? That's just your imagination running away with you again. Of course I'm aware of what is happening in other parts of the world. We are talking about Israel's genocide in Gaza in this thread because that was brought up in this thread not by me. Discussing one genocide, doesn't mean that you deny the existence of another. Are you able to understand that?

Another attempt at a gotcha from you failed miserably.



We've ran dry on that discussion, Let's bring up another. I suggest Sudan this time.

[Abra]

We've ran dry on that discussion, Let's bring up another. I suggest Sudan this time.

The genocide unfolding in Sudan is horrific and an absolute travesty. I'm going to say the same thing about that as I say about Israel's genocide in Gaza because I am against genocide period.

[Parmy]

The genocide unfolding in Sudan is horrific and an absolute travesty. I'm going to say the same thing about that as I say about Israel's genocide in Gaza because I am against genocide period.

There you go already. Deflecting away from the Sudan discussion and mentioning Israel.

[Abra]

There you go already. Deflecting away from the Sudan discussion and mentioning Israel.

Within the context of a thread that has had a long discussion about Israel's genocide, comparing two genocides is relevant. That's not a deflection.

Once again, another failed attempt at a gotcha and to silence people speaking the truth.

Stop trying to point score on the topic of genocides where innocent people are losing their lives, it's pathetic and disrespectful to the victims.

[Parmy]

Ok

[Abra]

:clap1:

[Merry Mockmas]

The radicalisation of the West's Left is complete. The terrorist regimes of the Middle East will be dancing in the streets and firing their AKs in the air. Well, the men will. Not the women, obviously...

Both sides have become radicalized tbf.

It's something that we as a society have to come to terms with and start addressing.

[Parmy]

Both sides have become radicalized tbf.

It's something that we as a society have to come to terms with and start addressing.

It is clear the left has been radicalized into thinking everyone but them are racist(blame starmer fot that)but can you explain why you think the right hss been radicalized and also what have they been radicalized to believe?

[Abra]

It is clear the left has been radicalized into thinking everyone but them are racist(blame starmer fot that)but can you explain why you think the right hss been radicalized and also what have they been radicalized to believe?

The right wing has been on a decline into radicalisation for years now, in both the UK and the US and social media has helped accelerate it. Supporting and voting sex offenders and financial criminals into positions of power, brainwashed into believing conspiracy theories, setting fire to hotels that house migrants, justifying and supporting genocides because the Daily Mail told them it's not that bad really. Conspiracy theories like QAnon are made up almost entirely of people on the right, people on the right being brainwashed into not vaccinating their children leading to health problems and public safety risks, the right is closely associated with the manosphere cult of Andrew Tate and the likes which preys upon young men's insecurities and instills them with hatred and paranoia and isolates them from society society so that they just want to consume that content non stop. The list goes on, it's a sorry state really.

And to be fair, it's not the whole of the right, but there has been a very clear radicalisation and the right are the most vulnerable to the targeted misinformation that is circulated online because the content and the algorithm is specifically designed for them as they it knows they are the most susceptible and the most likely to go down a rabbit hole. It's designed to rile them up and manipulate them. Older people, who also tend to lean more right, are also more technologically illiterate and find it harder to tell the difference between what is real and what is not online.

[Livia]

Both sides have become radicalized tbf.

It's something that we as a society have to come to terms with and start addressing.

I am talking about the radicalisation of the Left by Islamic terror cults like Hamas. For proof see the support marches every week, see the posts on this thread. See how some gay people support a terror cult that would kill them given half a chance. See how anti-Semitism has been normalised everywhere, including this forum. Look at the fact Jewish people are living in fear and it's only when a few people - vesavius and Beso are good examples - speak out it feels like some kind of normal.

What are you talking about

[Abra]

People who support babies being murdered talking about radicalisation, oh the irony

[Livia]

No one would have died if Hamas had let the people shelter in their tunnels, if they hadn't fired rockets from schools and hospitals. If 7th October had never happened. No one seems to care about the baby cut from its mother's stomach and dashed on the ground, or the babies thrown on a fire. But they were Jewish babies...

[Livia]

People who support babies being murdered talking about radicalisation, oh the irony

Vesavius said talking to you was like debating with a pigeon. That's really unfair to pigeons.

[Abra]

Vesavius said talking to you was like debating with a pigeon. That's really unfair to pigeons.

Wow good one. Did you come up with all that all by yourself? Did you take a break from your baby murder support just to type that out? Productive morning for you, isn't it?

[Livia]

Wow good one. Did you come up with all that all by yourself? Did you take a break from your baby murder support just to type that out? Productive morning for you, isn't it?

All by myself. You make it easy.

I notice the only one whose not provided any evidence for their claims so far is....YOU. I look forward to some evidence eventually while not holding my breath.

[Abra]

All by myself. You make it easy.

Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled programming of supporting babies being murdered I guess...

[Livia]

Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled programming of supporting babies being murdered I guess...

I notice you ignored my comment about dead israeli babies.

Where's your evidence for the hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinian babies? Just one bit of decent, verifiable evidence, that's all I'm asking. And don't quote me a Hamas press release...

[Parmy]

The right wing has been on a decline into radicalisation for years now, in both the UK and the US and social media has helped accelerate it. Supporting and voting sex offenders and financial criminals into positions of power, brainwashed into believing conspiracy theories, setting fire to hotels that house migrants, justifying and supporting genocides because the Daily Mail told them it's not that bad really. Conspiracy theories like QAnon are made up almost entirely of people on the right, people on the right being brainwashed into not vaccinating their children leading to health problems and public safety risks, the right is closely associated with the manosphere cult of Andrew Tate and the likes which preys upon young men's insecurities and instills them with hatred and paranoia and isolates them from society society so that they just want to consume that content non stop. The list goes on, it's a sorry state really.

And to be fair, it's not the whole of the right, but there has been a very clear radicalisation and the right are the most vulnerable to the targeted misinformation that is circulated online because the content and the algorithm is specifically designed for them as they it knows they are the most susceptible and the most likely to go down a rabbit hole. It's designed to rile them up and manipulate them. Older people, who also tend to lean more right, are also more technologically illiterate and find it harder to tell the difference between what is real and what is not online.


Jeezo..you've been brainwashed dude.


I will leave you to support the paedos of Palestine and their child brides.

[Abra]

I notice you ignored my comment about dead israeli babies.

Where's your evidence for the hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinian babies? Just one bit of decent, verifiable evidence, that's all I'm asking. And don't quote me a Hamas press release...

I have already stated over and over again that I thought October 7th was a rehreprensible tragedy, but your obsessive victim narrative won't let you think clearly.

There is plenty of evidence that shows this, but the fact that you just deny everything as "Hamas propaganda" is just your way of deny culpability to yourself. Maybe you are just in denial, not ready to admit to yourself that you've been supporting a genocide and the murder of children. The main irony being that you are totally brainwashed by Israeli propaganda.

I'll think I'll take Save The Children's words over TiBB user Livia

At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said.

The latest data released by the Government Media Office in Gaza showed at least 20,000 children - about 2% of Gaza’s child population - have been killed since October 2023.

At least 1,009 of the children killed were under age one, with nearly half (450) of these babies born and killed during the war. At least 42,011 children have been injured, according to the Ministry of Health, with the UN Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities reporting at least 21,000 children left permanently disabled. Thousands more are missing or presumed buried under rubble.

After 23 months of war, the lives of surviving children are at risk daily. The famine in Gaza Governorate is likely to spread in the coming weeks with over a million people, about half of whom are children, already facing catastrophic hunger, the worst-case IPC Phase 5. At least 132,000 children aged under five face risk of death from acute malnutrition, and at least 135 children have already starved to death, 20 of them since famine was declared on 22 August, according to the Ministry of Health.

The fact that you have the nerve to deny the existence of children who have been murdered is truly just so disgusting and vile. Lowest of the low.

Thankfully Israel is a global pariah and has never been more hated so your lies aren't working on the public anymore. Maybe that is what has triggered you into this kind of depravity.

[Abra]

:joker:

Jeezo..you've been brainwashed dude.


I will leave you to support the paedos of Palestine and their child brides.

Notice how you couldn't refute one thing I said :joker:

There's the door love, off you go.

Suddenly you care about children, just yesterday you were supporting their murder

[Livia]

I have already stated over and over again that I thought October 7th was a rehreprensible tragedy, but your obsessive victim narrative won't let you think clearly.

There is plenty of evidence that shows this, but the fact that you just deny everything as "Hamas propaganda" is just your way of deny culpability to yourself. Maybe you are just in denial, not ready to admit to yourself that you've been supporting a genocide and the murder of children. The main irony being that you are totally brainwashed by Israeli propaganda.

I'll think I'll take Save The Children's words over TiBB user Livia



The fact that you have the nerve to deny the existence of children who have been murdered is truly just so disgusting and vile. Lowest of the low.

Thankfully Israel is a global pariah and has never been more hated so your lies aren't working on the public anymore. Maybe that is what has triggered you into this kind of depravity.

I deny culpability? For what, exactly?

I never denied children have been killed. But they've been killed on both sides. Where is your evidence for your claim of "thousands of babies". Yet I am the lowest of the low?

Your last paragraph shows your hateful anti-Semitism. Hateful. Anti-Semitism. In fact all of your post just crackles with hate. I'm done with you and your simple-minded terror support. I actually pity you.

[Parmy]

The latest data released by the Government Media Office in Gaza



Anything that isn't a Hamas press release?

[Parmy]

Havnt ABC news and the BBC been in trouble for airing Hamas crisis actor videos?

[The Human Santapede]

How is this thread still going :joker:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

How is this thread still going :joker:

:joker:

[bots]

1 sentence from emily has generated 213 responses so far .... that's impact :laugh:

[Abra]

I deny culpability? For what, exactly?

I never denied children have been killed. But they've been killed on both sides. Where is your evidence for your claim of "thousands of babies". Yet I am the lowest of the low?

Your last paragraph shows your hateful anti-Semitism. Hateful. Anti-Semitism. In fact all of your post just crackles with hate. I'm done with you and your simple-minded terror support. I actually pity you.

Number of children murdered by Israel in 23 months: over 20,000 and sadly counting

Unfortunately for you, the deflection and smears STILL isn't going to change the fact that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza.

"You are anti-semitic because you pointed out that Israel is committing a genocide! I don't like it when you do that!" Blah blah blah, it's not working love.

[Merry Mockmas]

It is clear the left has been radicalized into thinking everyone but them are racist(blame starmer fot that)but can you explain why you think the right hss been radicalized and also what have they been radicalized to believe?

I despise Starmer, but he didn't startup the radicalization of the left, the American Media did that because they couldn't (and still can't) handle the fact that Donald Trump is popular with a lot of American people. And they've spread that Toxicity over here with our left leaning people to some extent.

And I believe that there's a few things that the right have been radicalized on in recent years.

Examples:

1. That Nigel Farage will bring the UK into a new glory age, based off of very little evidence to back it up.

2. Some of the right do like to weirdly compare LGBT and Paedophilia with each other, like it's the same thing in some of these individuals eyes.

3. Siding with Putin in his attempt to invade Ukraine.

4. That January 6th was the right thing to do because "the election was rigged" based off very little evidence other than Biden ended up with more votes than Trump by the end, compared to how the vote was going at the beginning.

5. "The Holocaust didn't happen" crowd that still disgracefully comment this stuff as recently as a couple of days ago.:umm2:

6. Some of the right believe that it's okay for Lineker to have lost his job at the BBC, even though some of these same people advocate for freedom of speech, yet they don't want Lineker to be able to express himself freely.

7. Some of the right found it funny when Nancy Pelosi's Husband was violently attacked on places like Twitter and Facebook.

8. Some of the right view all lefties as "evil" which I have seen become a growing trend on places such as Twitter and YouTube.

That's just the stuff that I can remember, where the right have held some insane views imo.

[Merry Mockmas]

I am talking about the radicalisation of the Left by Islamic terror cults like Hamas. For proof see the support marches every week, see the posts on this thread. See how some gay people support a terror cult that would kill them given half a chance. See how anti-Semitism has been normalised everywhere, including this forum. Look at the fact Jewish people are living in fear and it's only when a few people - vesavius and Beso are good examples - speak out it feels like some kind of normal.

What are you talking about

I might go one step further than you on this.

The UK in general is becoming beholden to Islam because of it's growing population in this country.

Which unfortunately does mean that the possibility of the worst elements of their religion is starting to rub off onto our indigenous people.

Hopefully some of their best stuff (whatever that might be) will start coming through soon.:fc:

[Merry Mockmas]

I have already stated over and over again that I thought October 7th was a rehreprensible tragedy, but your obsessive victim narrative won't let you think clearly.

There is plenty of evidence that shows this, but the fact that you just deny everything as "Hamas propaganda" is just your way of deny culpability to yourself. Maybe you are just in denial, not ready to admit to yourself that you've been supporting a genocide and the murder of children. The main irony being that you are totally brainwashed by Israeli propaganda.

I'll think I'll take Save The Children's words over TiBB user Livia



The fact that you have the nerve to deny the existence of children who have been murdered is truly just so disgusting and vile. Lowest of the low.

Thankfully Israel is a global pariah and has never been more hated so your lies aren't working on the public anymore. Maybe that is what has triggered you into this kind of depravity.

I personally can't stand to see any child becoming a casualty of war.

Sadly though that does happen in every single war that's ever existed.

For example the UK would've killed German babies during WWII, does that mean that the UK were the villains of WWII in your eyes?

There's no perfect way to navigate war, both Israel and Palestine's actions are a testament to that in my view.

[Abra]

I personally can't stand to see any child becoming a casualty of war.

Sadly though that does happen in every single war that's ever existed.

For example the UK would've killed German babies during WWII, does that mean that the UK were the villains of WWII in your eyes?

There's no perfect way to navigate war, both Israel and Palestine's actions are a testament to that in my view.

I have major issues with any country that deliberately targets civilians including innocent children

[Merry Mockmas]

I have major issues with any country that deliberately targets civilians including innocent children

That's fair.