Karma - almost (two months on) What are your feelings today?

[nodisharmony]

When Karma was first introduced on 29/5/07, it became a massive thing and most members were talking about the positives and the negatives of having it.

(+ Karma is lovely:thumbs:)

(- Karma is NOT :mad:)

1) But, how have you found it, now you are all used to it?

2) Do you have it switched (Off) like I chose to do & just don't have a need for it?

3) Or, do you really love it and it really works for you?

4) Any stories that you would like to tell about it?







nodisharmony :angel:

[Billy]

I switched it off cos I went from 5 to -7 Lol .. But i like it better off

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

somebody gave me -karma last night, i wont be naming any names but it rhymes with brat:nono:

[Lauren]

Switched it off instantly and have never looked back. :thumbs:

[Captain.Remy]

I don't use it since the beginning, I knew it was a bad idea and it still a bad idea. It's a stupid idea to rate the members, I hope some didn't take it in a bad way and don't feel incomfortable about that. It's just a popular contest, TIBB disapointed me a little bit by this, I thought it was more intelligent than that stupid karma.
But I still love TIBB for sure ! :spin:

After that speech, it's time to give me some karma guys !!! :joker::pat:

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Lauren
Switched it off instantly and have never looked back. :thumbs:

That is what I did Lauren, as I knew immediately that mine would go down, no matter what I posted:rolleyes:






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[stacey]

i didn't like it i thought people abused it and didnt use it for the right reasons thats why i turned mine off

[Matt]

I switched it off about five days after it was introduced.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by x-stacey-x
i didn't like it i thought people abused it and didnt use it for the right reasons thats why i turned mine off

Same here, too many people abused it..............

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Matt
I switched it off about five days after it was introduced.

Why did you turn it off Matt?






nodisharmony :angel:

[Dan_]

I turned mine off a while back because I felt it was a pointless system in the end,whilst the majority were sensible with it there were others who'd just take points off, for little or no reason.

[Mrluvaluva]

Only 1 member (sorry 2 now) has got it turned on in this thread. It doesn't mean anything. Can someone tell me the point of it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dan_
I turned mine off a while back because I felt it was a pointless system in the end,whilst the majority were sensible with it there were others who'd just take points off, for little or no reason.

I bet you wished you could know what the admin's know about who took them off you Dan_?

That sort of information could cause all kind of problems with members. :spin2::spin2:

But I am sure that many are happy. It is done on other forums and it has worked, so why not this one?






nodisharmony :angel:

[Dan_]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Dan_
I turned mine off a while back because I felt it was a pointless system in the end,whilst the majority were sensible with it there were others who'd just take points off, for little or no reason.

I bet you wished you could know what the admin's know about who took them off you Dan_?

That sort of information could cause all kind of problems with members. :spin2::spin2:

But I am sure that many are happy. It is done on other forums and it has worked, so why not this one?






nodisharmony :angel:

I'm not overly bothered to be honest, not much to achieve from knowing who it was.Quite possibly someone totally irrelevant to me.

I'd say maybe opinions are more diverse on here and rather than challenge the post with a well thought out reply to disagree, the easier option for some is to just sneakily take a karma point off.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dan_
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Dan_
I turned mine off a while back because I felt it was a pointless system in the end,whilst the majority were sensible with it there were others who'd just take points off, for little or no reason.

I bet you wished you could know what the admin's know about who took them off you Dan_?

That sort of information could cause all kind of problems with members. :spin2::spin2:

But I am sure that many are happy. It is done on other forums and it has worked, so why not this one?






nodisharmony :angel:

I'm not overly bothered to be honest, not much to achieve from knowing who it was.Quite possibly someone totally irrelevant to me.

I'd say maybe opinions are more diverse on here and rather than challenge the post with a well thought out reply to disagree, the easier option for some is to just sneakily take a karma point off.


I can certainly agree with the last part of your post.

I guess it is easier to do that, and some do assume that when Karma points dissappear all of a sudden, they can think it was taken off by a particular member or members within a particular thread and that may lead to hostilities or arguments from those who may take the whole Karma thing too seriously.






nodisharmony :angel:

[Nicola]

I've kept mine on but I don't really care about how many Karma points I've got. People taking them off has helped in this way as I'm not feeling competitive against members (even my friends) who have a lot of Karma points as I have a tendency to get jealous easily. I've got more than what I expected to have anyway.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Nicola
I have a tendency to get jealous easily

I admire you for saying that

[Z]

You can turn it off? *blink* Didn't know that xD


I think I'll turn it off, I'm hardly gaining anything by having it up, and I mean, it's nice that people want to + you, but nobody likes being minus'd, so it's.. meh. If you have karma, you shouldn't have the option to turn it off because a lot of people will always disagree with it, and you might as well not have it at all if lots of people don't have it turned on.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Z
You can turn it off? *blink* Didn't know that xD


I think I'll turn it off, I'm hardly gaining anything by having it up, and I mean, it's nice that people want to + you, but nobody likes being minus'd, so it's.. meh. If you have karma, you shouldn't have the option to turn it off because a lot of people will always disagree with it, and you might as well not have it at all if lots of people don't have it turned on.

You didn't?

Stropz, how about we hack TiBB to get rid of the - karma feature?

*DISCLAIMER: There are no real plans to hack TiBB!*

[Amy]

I say... Karma bores me! It bores me listening to people moan about it and it bores me having 50 million threads on Karma. I don't know why things that happened a while ago, like this big Karma debate, can't just stay in the past.... talking about it once a week or month does not make it any better. Just turn it off if you don't like it?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Amy
I say... Karma bores me! It bores me listening to people moan about it and it bores me having 50 million threads on Karma. I don't know why things that happened a while ago, like this big Karma debate, can't just stay in the past.... talking about it once a week or month does not make it any better. Just turn it off if you don't like it?

Hear hear!

[Ruth*Star]

I turned mine off because i got bored of it, And i went for like 23 something to 17 or 18, and i never posted anything bad, so i lost 5 points for nothing really.

[lily.]

LoL.. I'm shocked mine is so high Ruth. I upset people left, right and centre on here.

[Ruth*Star]

lol yeah...i don't recall posting anything bad and i lost like 5 points lol.

[lily.]

Yeah, it might be..

To be honest, I don't care though. Whether it's high or whether it's low.. I wont change how I am. I've always been the same in here and I've been here for 2 years now.. :D

[Sunny_01]

Nicola what a grea post you made, I admire your honesty and felt the need to give you Karma for such a great post!

Unlike the Stroppy one I rarely use Karma and when I do I fight against the darkside with it, I only use mine for +karma these days as it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

Stropz you are grounded :devil:

[Matt]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Nicola what a grea post you made, I admire your honesty and felt the need to give you Karma for such a great post!

Unlike the Stroppy one I rarely use Karma and when I do I fight against the darkside with it, I only use mine for +karma these days as it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

Stropz you are grounded :devil:

Ooh Stropz!

I turned off Karma for the same reason as Ruth :bawling:

[Nicola]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Nicola what a grea post you made, I admire your honesty and felt the need to give you Karma for such a great post!

Unlike the Stroppy one I rarely use Karma and when I do I fight against the darkside with it, I only use mine for +karma these days as it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

Stropz you are grounded :devil:

Awww that's kind of you Sunny, I'm glad people can appreciate my posts. I was tempted to turn the Karma off because I wasn't really bothered about how much I was getting but I think I'll leave it for the time being! :)

[Tanser_Man]

As i said in the begining, it's a popularity contest.

And tbh, Stropz is just gready, pimping her body out for a +... it just sickens me!

[~Kizwiz~]

I rearly know mine is turned on...... I would rather give karma than get karma.

Share the love :kiss:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Stropz

*Nice to see u Kiz... :kiss:
You too sweetie...... :hug:

just dropped you a line.

Am very tired now....its been a long uncomfortable travel....what with bump kicking

[Arneldo]

I turned mine off after i received -5 Karma over one night while i hadn't made any posts during that day.

[SiMoN!]

i turened mine of because i as on - lol

[CassetteFinger]

I switched mine off as i went form 0 to 0 so it was pointless on you know.

[Sarah.]

I used to have positive karma but I guess someone didn't agree with my views and now i'm on negative . Lol i don't really mind about it, might turn it off soon actually, not really worth it.

[Tom4784]

Karma really doesn't affet me much, I use the + karma button most when i read a reply that's thoughtful or makes me laugh. I only really use - when i think that someone is spoiling for a fight or is being annoying.

[Matt08]

Turned mine off ages ago, I can't see the point in it. It causes rows and upset.

[agentcollins]

It's fun, I went from +1 to +7 straight to -1 and then tp +5, I go on holiday for about 2 weeks - I say nothing and come back with only +1...... Must be the works of all the crazy Charley lovers.

[Richie]

I personally don't give a flying crap if I get minus karma.

Therefore I've kept mine on.

[Emilee]

i dont care coz im never on tibb anmore.

[Bigbrotherin]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
somebody gave me -karma last night, i wont be naming any names but it rhymes with brat:nono:
How do you know? How do you find out who did it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Emilee
i dont care coz Im never on tibb anmore.

I know that Karma can be taken away, even when you have been gone for ages and then suddenly pop back on to the forum and find it suddenly reduced.

But, that doesn't matter if it doesn't bother you either way.

I am sure you'll be back very soon Emilee:thumbs: It's addictive:thumbs2:





nodisharmony :angel:

[MarkWaldorf]

I started to like it as people were using it well. But I've suddenly been going down for no reason. All the karma I got was making banners, giving people HSM2 information, doing favours.

What a waste of my time that was.

[Richie]

Awww Mark. I'm sad to hear that you're upset about it *gives +karma to help out xD*

[Callum]

Turned mine off.

[lily.]

When mine gets to Zero, I'm switching it off.. :D

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Richie
Awww Mark. I'm sad to hear that you're upset about it *gives +karma to help out xD*

Lol, didn't expect that. Thanks for that. :thumbs:

It's more feeling mad, especially everything done.

I'll return the favour when a time restrictions off, I've been looking at your posts and they actually deserve more credit. :thumbs:

Linda, you aint getting to 0. Yours will only rise.

[Ann]

I love having my Karma on as I love to know how many people do really like me on here and I love to give you lot one for your hard work too :flowers:

[Callum]

I don't see why it came in the first place, to be honest.. When people abuse the system and give minus karma for no reason, it's just pointless.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Callum
I don't see why it came in the first place, to be honest.. When people abuse the system and give minus karma for no reason, it's just pointless.

Everyone was in favour for the postive, but not negative. The fact that the Anonymity plays a big part in it as well makes it even worse.

[Billy]

People must feel sorry for me cos I turned mine back off and I was at negative 4, but now am at 1

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by OfficialSuperstar
People must feel sorry for me cos I turned mine back off and I was at negative 4, but now am at 1


Ohh no your not :wink:

[lily.]

Kiz is sharing the love today... :bigsmile:

[Billy]

Im at 3 now go meee

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Stropz
Kiz is sharing the love today... :bigsmile:
I'm always sharing the love to those who deserve it :love:

[MarkWaldorf]

There it goes again. :conf:

Btw, Richie, returned the favour. :thumbs:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by MarkChap?!
There it goes again. :conf:

Your karma?????

How strange...... :puzzled:

[Billy]

Mark I gave you some

[~Kizwiz~]

How bizzare...... :shocked:

I very rarely give out neg karma....... in fact I think I have only done it on a few occations..... plus karma is much nicer

[MarkWaldorf]

Thank you...:laugh: I'll return the favour when the restrictions off cause I remember yours being taken down as well. :thumbs: Your posts are actually a good read so it's a shock why someone feels the need to take it down.

[Billy]

Aw thanks Lol, I was at -4 yesterday, and got back up to 3 lol ( I had it turned off so i think peopel felt sorry for me lol)

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by kizwiz
How bizzare...... :shocked:

I very rarely give out neg karma....... in fact I think I have only done it on a few occations..... plus karma is much nicer

True, I've given it to someone who can't accept others opinions a few times, mainly because if someone doesn't agree with them, they'll take it as an offence and make it personal - which doesn't deserve + at all.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by OfficialSuperstar
Aw thanks Lol, I was at -4 yesterday, and got back up to 3 lol ( I had it turned off so i think peopel felt sorry for me lol)

:shocked: It was probably your love for Nicky which got you -4. As I said, some people can't handle others opinions.

[Revol]

I would like Karma if people gave me more!:mad:

:spin2:

[Billy]

Id like it if you gave me some karma VCK lmao just kidding

[Tanser_Man]

Karma *****s.

:cheer:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
Karma *****s.

:cheer:

:tongue:

[Ann]

Markchap I will give you the permission to tell me off as I sadly nicked your Karma earlier to give it to Sam and I didnt realise it should be at least 3 hours to wait to give someone else a karma :mad::bawling:

[MarkWaldorf]

I don't think you take Karma from people to give to others....:laugh:

[Ann]

oh right LMAO :thumbs:

[Billy]

ohh my karma is decreasing now wlol

[lily.]

Switch it off.. quick!!! Lmao.. hahaha.. :D

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
As i said in the begining, it's a popularity contest.

And tbh, Stropz is just gready, pimping her body out for a +... it just sickens me!

It is about popularity Tanser_Man and it is a shame, as it is meant to be about good posts. A type of reward.

That is what it is about, but it has been abused and now it is just a little game for those who like to play in it.

Nothing serious and not to be taken seriously either.






nodisharmony :angel:

[lily.]

I like to play in it. :thumbs:

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by OfficialSuperstar
ohh my karma is decreasing now wlol

Already? :shocked:

EDIT: Oh there goes mine :laugh:

[Ann]

mmm so what is happening to your karma when mine stays as it is all the time weird or what :pat:

[Billy]

I added one for youu Ann

[Ann]

aww THANK YOU you are so sweet offialsuperstar :kiss:

[Billy]

lol no problem :thumbs:

[Ann]

But are you sure its not members that register then get banned from the forum and get other regular members back by being spiteful you never know your luck :rolleyes:

[Ann]

I am annoyed now as I gave Mark a karma earlier today and some bugger has nicked it why do this it isnt fair on members wanted good points from other members ie: friends so all im asking is who ever is doing this please stop it thank you :mad:

[lily.]

You're wasting your time Ann.

Don't take Karma seriously. Coz 99% of users don't. :bigsmile:

[Ann]

ok Stropz I wont bother worrying then if they dont bother :dance2:

[lily.]

:bigsmile: That's the spirit girl.. :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

Rather than make a new thread, I thought I would recycle this one. Lol. What are everyones thoughts on karma now? Do you use it? Love it or hate it?

[Captain.Remy]

Hate it since day 1, I have seen many people being jealous here because they didn't have any or 'if you do this, you will have karma'. I was right when I said it would bring more competition when we didn't need any. So I guess I was right. :laugh:

[Conor]

I actually think I'll turn mine on (First time since Oct I think) and see where it goes :thumbs2:

[MrGaryy]

Its OK. I think that it can be good for members who contantly starts fights and the like to take them down a peg or two and vice versa for helpful members.

[MrGaryy]

[_Max_]

will someone boost me back up to 0

[GiRTh]

It's a crock of sh*t. I didn't like it a year ago when it was brought in and I'm no bigger fan now. I frankly fail to see the point in it.

[Conor]

Originally posted by _Max_
will someone boost me back up to 0

I would, but I just edited someone elses and I have a restriction? lol :puzzled:

btw - I actually wouldn't want Karma for it, hence my banner store is karma free.

[Mrluvaluva]

You can only use karma once every 3 hours.

[Harry!]

I dont know because when I came back after 3 months my karma was the same.

[Magic]

I stopped mine on +5.

But yeah, people do take it a bit seriously.

[Sam!]

I'm over karma.

[Nicky.]

I dont mind it..

mines on..

If people want to higher/lower it then they can. x

[Shaun]

Had a few brief periods of turning it off because I'd had arguments with people on the forum and it showed, but I've had it on for a while now...and well...I'm doing quite well. *beams*

Lmao.

I rarely dish out negative karma, it's usually positive.

[Tom]

Mines off, its annoying and clutters up the page.

[_Max_]

people have given me a low karma score so from now on im just going to using my negative karma

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by _Max_
people have given me a low karma score so from now on Im just going to using my negative karma

It would just provoke more negative karma being given to you and would be an abuse of the system.

When karma was introduce it was stated that anyone found abusing the system... i.e only giving out negative karma would have the rights to use the karma system taken away.

[_Max_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by _Max_
people have given me a low karma score so from now on Im just going to using my negative karma

It would just provoke more negative karma being given to you and would be an abuse of the system.

When karma was introduce it was stated that anyone found abusing the system... i.e only giving out negative kama would have the rights to use the karma system taken away.

well people are obvisually abusing it by targeting me

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by _Max_
well people are obvisually abusing it by targeting me

Minus 2 isn't that low I have seen people with much lower karma scores. It only takes a couple of points and you will be to zero.

If you don't like the system you can always turn it off. Then nobody can give you or take away karma. It just doesn't appear.

[_Max_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by _Max_
well people are obvisually abusing it by targeting me

Minus 2 isn't that low I have seen people with much lower karma scores. It only takes a couple of points and you will be to zero.

If you don't like the system you can always turn it off. Then nobody can give you or take away karma. It just doesn't appear.

Why do all the admins have it turn off, they should be promoting it.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by _Max_
Why do all the admins have it turn off, they should be promoting it.

All the Admin team have it turned on.

Out of a Moderation team of nine, four of us have have it turned off. We all have our own reasons. My reason that I felt at the time it would be easy to target moderators with negative karma after giving a warning to a popular member.

[_Max_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by _Max_
Why do all the admins have it turn off, they should be promoting it.

All the Admin team have it turned on.

Out of a Moderation team of nine, four of us have have it turned off. We all have our own reasons. My reason that I felt at the time it would be easy to target moderators with negative karma after giving a warning to a popular member.

Well im turning mine off then.

[Dr43%er]

As I have said before. If you feel the need to give negs then give it to me. I will happily take them.

[Mrluvaluva]

Oops!

[Dr43%er]

LOL.

[Sunny_01]

Oh my god my world is going to end someone has taken a +karma point from me!! can you all remember the reactions of some members when they had points removed for very obviously being out of order?

Max I think you made a good decision to turn it off. If it gets to you so much best to remove the irritation of worrying what people think.

[Mrluvaluva]

Have another point then. Lol.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Have another point then. Lol.

Ah I feel loved all over again!!!

Back at ya xxx

[Mrluvaluva]

Thanks Sunny. Have some more. Lol. Doesn't karma suit ya. (pun)

x

[Sunny_01]

I feel it suits me well, I think it suits you as well sir :wink:

[GiRTh]

You two can mock but the system is open to abuse. Thus, it should at least be re-assessed.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
You two can mock but the system is open to abuse. Thus, it should at least be re-assessed.

I agree it is open to abuse but what system is not, the great thing is it was reviewed and made into an optional add on for those that want it and who know and accept that people will give and people will take away.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
it was reviewed and made into an optional add on for those that want it That's the only good thing about it.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by GiRTh
You two can mock but the system is open to abuse. Thus, it should at least be re-assessed.

I agree it is open to abuse but what system is not, the great thing is it was reviewed and made into an optional add on for those that want it and who know and accept that people will give and people will take away.

I do however think there should be some research done sometimes into people with so much negative karma. I sometimes think that certain members just deduct karma willy nilly and just for a laugh sometimes.

Maybe, if you are subjected to say -10 or more that admin can be asked to look into whether that member has been targeted by someone/others

[MarkWaldorf]

I've forgotten about it to be honest.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
I do however think there should be some research done sometimes into people with so much negative karma. I sometimes think that certain members just deduct karma willy nilly and just for a laugh sometimes.

Maybe, if you are subjected to say -10 or more that admin should be requested to look into whether that member has been targeted by someone/others Excellent idea:thumbs: There are some very good posters with very low Karma. Maybe the admin might want to take a look at why.

[~Kizwiz~]

It was said when it started that that would be the case, and I do believe that a members karma rights were taken away because they were dishing out negs a little bit too much

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
It was said when it started that that would be the case, and I do believe that a members karma rights were taken away because they were dishing out negs a little bit too much Really. Who? I dont expect you to answer that.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Really. Who? I dont expect you to answer that.

Yes, I remember Stropz and them talking about it.

But I dont think I shall comment on the who :whistle:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by GiRTh
Really. Who? I dont expect you to answer that.

Yes, I remember Stropz and them talking about it.

But I dont think I shall comment on the who :whistle: If someone is only giving neg karma then something should be done about it.

I can name at least 3 or 4 very good posters who have negative karma. I just think the whole thing is pointless. It's negatives far out way it's positives.

I've just turned mine on to check a few things out. Barring a few notable exceptions and discounting the moderating team, the majority of regular posters has theirs turned off. What does that tell us?

[Sunny_01]

I think that your idea is a great one Kiz, I will send a message to James or Mark asking them to look at your idea.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
It was said when it started that that would be the case, and I do believe that a members karma rights were taken away because they were dishing out negs a little bit too much

Was that a member who left soon after that? And I am not mocking anything Girth. I was making a joke with Sunny re: "Karma suit ya" as in "Karma Sutra".

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think that your idea is a great one Kiz, I will send a message to James or Mark asking them to look at your idea.

Ta me dear......:flowers:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
It was said when it started that that would be the case, and I do believe that a members karma rights were taken away because they were dishing out negs a little bit too much
And I am not mocking anything Girth. I was making a joke with Sunny re: "Karma suit ya" as in "Karma Sutra". OK. Point taken. It just seemed like you making fun of forum members who dont like the karma system. Among regular forum members - ie those who post at least three days a week - those who dont like the karma system seem to be in quite a high majority.:whistle:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

Was that a member who left soon after that?

I dont know if that member has left, but I havent seen them in a long while

[Xander]

I think the karma system can be abused sometimes especially latley when I have seen this game of "Tag-Team" karma between a couple of members.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Xander
I think the karma system can be abused sometimes especially latley when I have seen this game of "Tag-Team" karma between a couple of members.

Precisely. I think the system is a good one but I am also aware that for admin to check may well be time consuming.

But if someone is abusing the system then they should have the right to give karma out taken away from them

[Harry!]

I actully remember having -60 for nothing.

[GiRTh]

Who was playing tag team Karma?

I think I'll keep mine on. See how long it takes me get to zero. It's only five clicks away.

[Xander]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Who was playing tag team Karma?

I think I'll keep mine on. See how long it takes me get to zero. It's only five clicks away.

I don't want to name the individuals, of course.

But it was fairly obvious that there +karma was getting consideratly higher. Especially with one of them starting off with minus karma, and then there karma increasing by a lot over a couple of days.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by GiRTh
Who was playing tag team Karma?

I think I'll keep mine on. See how long it takes me get to zero. It's only five clicks away.

I don't want to name the individuals, of course.

But it was fairly obvious that there +karma was getting consideratly higher. Especially with one of them starting off with minus karma, and then there karma increasing by a lot over a couple of days. Indeed.:thumbs:
The current system is so open to abuse that I'm not sure anyone uses it properly.

[Xander]

Not sure if this has been mentioned by perhaps when you give someone a +karma or -karma you have to give a suitable reason why you gave it to them?
But then theres the time consuming job of reading all the reasons.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Point taken. It just seemed like you making fun of forum members who dont like the karma system. Among regular forum members - ie those who post at least three days a week - those who dont like the karma system seem to be in quite a high majority.:whistle:

Well Sunny and I were not, so no need to think we were. I am aware there are problems still with karma. That is why I raised the question again almost a year after it was introduced.

[Legend]

I still share my "why do you let it remotely bother you" opinion especially as there is the option to turn it off.

I've not known anything on a forum to be blown out of proportion so much.

[Mrluvaluva]

Well some people do. And this is a vent for them to talk about it.

[Legend]

Yeah, I worked that much out. However, the fact people still complain when it was made optional to suit people, I just don't get it.

I don't really think people have a right to complain the day it turned optional. Fair enough of it weren't but it is, can't everyone get over it? :puzzled:

[Dr43%er]

"I sometimes think that certain members just deduct karma willy nilly and just for a laugh sometimes."

Those were the days. Good old Slarti.

By the way. You just said "WILLY". LOL.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Legend
Yeah, I worked that much out. However, the fact people still complain when it was made optional to suit people, I just don't get it.

I don't really think people have a right to complain the day it turned optional. Fair enough of it weren't but it is, can't everyone get over it? :puzzled:

I agree and I was one of those who hated at first. But I like the system now

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Well Sunny and I were not, so no need to think we were. I am aware there are problems still with karma. That is why I raised the question again almost a year after it was introduced. One of you was mocking. Posting how certain members got upset when theirs was deducted.

I see I'm only 4 away from zero. Come on people it's only four clicks of the mouse. There must be forum members chomping at the bit to reduce mine. Come on, get some.

The fact is the system does not work. It's as plain and as simple as that. A year ago I was bothered but now I actually salute those who have high karma. Well done you've obviously earned it.

I still maintain that, among regular forum members, a very high majority have it turned off. What does that tell us? We should start a poll. If we did I have abolutely no doubt most people would vote that the karma system is a waste of time and thats the only point I really need to make.

[Mrluvaluva]

Oh but you have 5. Why don't you start a poll then?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Oh but you have 5. Why don't you start a poll then? Blimey. Someone added one. Thats not in the script.

If anyone started a poll it would probably be locked by the mods. There have been many karma based threads locked. Secondly, I dont think anyone would take any notice anyway. The mods have given us the option to turn it off and just about every regular forum member has used that option. That speaks volumes, that says it all..

[Dan_]

I switched it off after only a couple weeks as I felt it was an unfair and pretty sneaky system.I doubt I'd ever turn it back on again.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh

If anyone started a poll it would probably be locked by the mods. There have been many karma based threads locked. Secondly, I dont think anyone would take any notice anyway. The mods have given us the option to turn it off and just about every regular forum member has used that option. That speaks volumes, that says it all..


They won't lock it if people talk about it rationally. Do it. I don't see what is stopping you.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by GiRTh

If anyone started a poll it would probably be locked by the mods. There have been many karma based threads locked. Secondly, I dont think anyone would take any notice anyway. The mods have given us the option to turn it off and just about every regular forum member has used that option. That speaks volumes, that says it all..


They won't lock it if people talk about it rationally. Do it. I don't see what is stopping you. To be brutally honest, I dont really care enough to actually start the poll to prove my point. I've now got mine switched on to show that. Start a thread or bump an old one and I'll post my views on the subject. Theres no point in trying to discredit the system because one, I dont see the mods actually getting rid of it and two, the fact that just about everybody has theirs turned off makes my point much better than I ever could.

EDIT: BTW I agree with Dans assessment of the system. It IS a sneaky way of taking a pop at others.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Well Sunny and I were not, so no need to think we were. I am aware there are problems still with karma. That is why I raised the question again almost a year after it was introduced. One of you was mocking. Posting how certain members got upset when theirs was deducted.


That would be me, and that would have been about a very specific banned member who made a huge deal and caused more trouble than was needed because one point was deducted. I would not say mocking more gentle poking!!

[GiRTh]

I've lost two more points. I'm just three clicks away from zero. Keep 'em coming people.:thumbs:

[Dr43%er]

Hang on. I ask for negs and I go up. What gives.

[GiRTh]

I went up too. Only briefly mind. Come on people. Press that negative button on the left. Do it.

[Dr43%er]

There you go mate. Return the flavour old bean.

[GiRTh]

Good man.:thumbs:

I think I need to wait another half hour before I can edit again. But as soon as I can I'll reduce yours. I think I'm going to target all the people with high karma and keep reducing them. Just for the sake of balance.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Good man.:thumbs:

I think I need to wait another half hour before I can edit again. But as soon as I can I'll reduce yours. I think I'm going to target all the people with high karma and keep reducing them. Just for the sake of balance.

And you were going on about people abusing the system before? You are just doing the same if you do that. And you can only use karma every 3 hours.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by GiRTh
Good man.:thumbs:

I think I need to wait another half hour before I can edit again. But as soon as I can I'll reduce yours. I think I'm going to target all the people with high karma and keep reducing them. Just for the sake of balance.

And you were going on about people abusing the system before? You are just doing the same if you do that. And you can only use karma every 3 hours. I know. Its harder to use the system properly than it is to abuse it. Thats how flawed the system is. Thanks for making my point for me Baz.:thumbs:

[GiRTh]

DAMN.

I'm sure its been more than three hours since I took a karma point from a certain forum member. Why cant I take one from the Doc. See, even the timing system doesn't work. LOL

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
DAMN.

I'm sure its been more than three hours since I took a karma point from a certain forum member. Why cant I take one from the Doc. See, even the timing system doesn't work. LOL

Yeah. I noticed mine went down. :laugh2:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Hang on. I ask for negs and I go up. What gives.

Sorry, that would have been me :laugh2:

[Dr43%er]

Cow.

[~Kizwiz~]

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/tiere/d078.gif

[Dr43%er]

Moo.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

Was that a member who left soon after that?

I dont know if that member has left, but I havent seen them in a long while

Aye. Slarti told Linda he was leaving. Shame. He was a laugh.

[GiRTh]

I've gone down three points in one night. I must have upset a few people yesterday. Finally, I'm in the negative.:whistle:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Finally, I'm in the negative.:whistle:

No you're not. I see I have gone down another one in the last hour. :wink:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by GiRTh

Finally, I'm in the negative.:whistle:

No you're not. I see I have gone down another one in the last hour. :wink: I was but someone added a point.

How do you know its gone down in the last hour. Are you constantly checking it?

[Harry!]

-4 now (Gone down a bit)