3 Muslims convicted of plotting gun attack on mass gathering of Jews UK

[Crimson Dynamo]

Three ISIS jihadis have just been found guilty of plotting the biggest Islamist
terror attack in British history. Two are from Tunisia, the other served in
Saddam Hussein’s army. They hate Jews and wanted to kill as many as possible
in Manchester.

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Walid Saadaoui, 38, and Amar Hussein, 52, had a “visceral dislike” of Jewish
people and wanted to cause “untold harm” but the plot was scuppered as
they unknowingly laid bare their scheme to an undercover operative (UCO).

Main instigator Saadaoui aimed to smuggle four AK-47 assault rifles, two
handguns and 900 rounds of ammunition into the UK in what police chiefs
said could have been Britain’s deadliest terrorist incident.

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[Livia]

Thank God for our security services.

[Parmy]

Why would he need 4?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thank God for our security services.

Yes, keeping us safe from the "far right"

:rolleyes:

[Benjamin]

The state of them.

Glad they’ve been caught.

[Oliver_W]

The one on the left and middle look respectively like uglier versions of Rowan Atkinson and Russell Brand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yesterday the new woke leftie luvvie head of the Equality and Human Rights
Commission told us that it was dangerous to talk negatively about
"immigration".

Today three ISIS jihadi immigrants were found guilty of plotting the biggest
terror attack in U.K. history.

Staggering

[BBXX]

Yesterday the new woke leftie luvvie head of the Equality and Human Rights
Commission told us that it was dangerous to talk negatively about
"immigration".

Today three ISIS jihadi immigrants were found guilty of plotting the biggest
terror attack in U.K. history.

Staggering

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[Oliver_W]

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Yes, antisemitism (such as in the foiled attack) has indeed been building over the past few years.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, antisemitism (such as in the foiled attack) has indeed been building over the past few years.

And its been tolerated by the left to score points in the imaginary culture war

shake my head

[BBXX]

Yes, antisemitism (such as in the foiled attack) has indeed been building over the past few years.

Indeed it has, absolutely not denying that but my point, which I suspect you are ignoring on purpose, is that we cannot all agree to allow awful, negative messaging against one particularly demographic as a whole for the crimes of a few while doing the same - nay, actively participating in the same activity - towards another.

Not sure why some of you can't see you're guilty of the thing you quite rightly despite has happened to Jewish people.

When the anti migrant protest happened last summer and there were outward attacks on people who simply had the same colour skin, it was because of the gross rhetoric surrounding immigrants.

[BBXX]

And its been tolerated by the left to score points in the imaginary culture war

shake my head

No, it's been tolerated by morons who are willing to ignore anti-semitism. Not 'the left'.

The way some of you speak about Migrants and even Muslim people as a whole is the same way another speaks about Jewish people, just FYI. You are the other side of the same coin.

[arista]

Thank God for our security services.


Very true

[Crimson Dynamo]

How many of these dangerous death cult lunatics are the security services not aware of is a pertinent question?

[Cherie]

An Al-Qaeda leader has issued a terrifying edict for followers "to eradicate the dual evil" of US citizens and Jews. Sa'ad bin Atef al-Awlaki is the head of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

The infamous terrorist has led attacks against the US in Yemen and kidnapped American and other Westerners in the country. The US government is offering a reward of up to $10million for information on the Islamist. In his latest edict, al-Awlaki urged Muslims to unleash a terror campaign against Jews and Americans around the world, as well as praising recent attacks.

[Ninastar]

You don’t really have to put Muslims in the title, it’s not like anyone else really targets Christmas/Hanukkah events

[Redway]

No, it's been tolerated by morons who are willing to ignore anti-semitism. Not 'the left'.

The way some of you speak about Migrants and even Muslim people as a whole is the same way another speaks about Jewish people, just FYI. You are the other side of the same coin.

Agreed.

[Glenn.]

You don’t really have to put Muslims in the title, it’s not like anyone else really targets Christmas/Hanukkah events

Of course he had to put muslims in the title.

[Cherie]

Lets hope they can distinguish between Americans, Jews and everyone else when they decide to cause carnage....oh wait

[Crimson Dynamo]

You don’t really have to put Muslims in the title, it’s not like anyone else really targets Christmas/Hanukkah events

Quite

It's patently obvious who threatens us all

But I did for the lefties at the back pretending not to know

[Benjamin]

No, it's been tolerated by morons who are willing to ignore anti-semitism. Not 'the left'.

The way some of you speak about Migrants and even Muslim people as a whole is the same way another speaks about Jewish people, just FYI. You are the other side of the same coin.

Perfectly said.

[Glenn.]

Perfectly said.

and predictably, completely and deliberately ignored.

[AnnieK]

Why are people turning this into a pissing contest on left v right? This was a plot that was thankfully foiled tagetting the Jewish community in Manchester not long after theyve been rocked by a previous atrocity.

[Benjamin]

Why are people turning this into a pissing contest on left v right? This was a plot that was thankfully foiled tagetting the Jewish community in Manchester not long after theyve been rocked by a previous atrocity.

Pretty much every thread on TiBB in serious debates turns in to that now, sadly. Both sides (a couple of members on each side) are just bad at doing it.

[Cherie]

How is this a left or right issue? when is the last time Jews attacked anyone in the UK or any European country for that matter

[Parmy]

A Muslim plot targeting the Jewish community.

[Livia]

I think what's turned this into a Left/Right debate is the support the Left has given to anti-Semitic rhetoric and hate. Anti-Semitism has been allowed to fester in this country, with chants, marches, graffiti, attacks on schools and synagogues, spitting and insults aimed at Jews, the police turning back a Jew from walking down a London street because he looked "openly Jewish", the police telling someone who complained protesters were waving a swastika that "swastikas are subjective", police arresting someone for wearing a Star of David. a football match not being allowed to take place in England because police couldn't protect the fans from the local Muslim population. Because "from the river to the sea" is chanted and supported, because "globalise the intifada'" is chanted and supported, All this has been enthusiastically supported by the Left. I am not at risk from the Right, I am at risk from Muslims and the Lefties who not only support them, but who try to deny there's a problem and I'm racist for saying there is.

[BBXX]

I am not at risk from the Right, I am at risk from Muslims and the Lefties who not only support them, but who try to deny there's a problem and I'm racist for saying there is.

No. You're at risk from anti-semites. It's discriminatory to say 'you're at risk from Muslims' because you're insinuating all Muslims are anti-semites just because some Muslims are anti-semites.

I'm at risk from homophobes. Homophobes come in all shapes and sizes. It's not discriminatory for me to say homophobia is an issue in Islamic teachings - it's true. But it is to say I am at risk from Muslims. I am at risk from homophobes.

That's why some people have an issue with the phrasing of some people on here. Like I said before, in a post that was deleted, all people need to do is check out the thread on Stockport to see how some members spoke about Muslim people, about migrants as a whole and about POC based on no factual evidence on the perpetrator.

As I've said before - it's fine to call a spade and spade and acknowledge the issue of faith-incited crimes. It's another thing to tar all people of that faith with the same brush. You know, like what has happened to Jewish people for the last couple of years.

How can you disavow hatred aimed at Jewish people while driving your own towards Muslims in the same paragraph and not notice the hypocrisy is startling. You're guilty of the same thing you're quite rightly condemning.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Raja Miah the much admired, Anti grooming gang campaigner described as 'a
dangerous man' by senior Labour Party politicians has an important message
about this issue and the wider one that is speaks to:

This should be a warning to the rest of the country. Some people do not want
integration. They want to live parallel lives in a society where diversity is a
one way street.

I have no respect for @5Pillarsuk, but it would be a mistake to dismiss the
message in this video as marginal. This worldview is spreading, especially
amongst British born Muslims whose parents were born and educated here.


Unfortunately, those who should challenge this too often fail to do so.
Muslims in public office, and White politicians who represent Muslim
communities, refuse to confront the ethnic sectarians and Islamist separatists
in their midst.

Why? Because challenging them not only risks votes, it destroys their
multicultural utopian world view.

It is the same cowardice that allowed the grooming gang scandal to
metastasise for decades. And once again, the public is expected to look away.

I have a question for my Muslim friends. Just where do you think this will end?

And to everyone else, from me, to you and all those dear to you, a very
Merry Christmas.

Raja 🎄

The video he is referring to is here: https://x.com/recusant_raja/status/2003748655568732662?s=20