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Kate!
30-12-2025, 08:13 AM
Yes it's Starmer AND all his cronies.

Every single bloody day there's fresh atrocity, now it's an utter outright piece of scum being welcomed here with open arms. Even certain celebs are endorsing this, they can all go to hell in a handbasket too.

Yes my cage has been well and truly rattled once more. Appalled.

But yeah let's bring them all here, let them do evil and spout hatred. But bang Lucy Connolly up for a lengthy sentence for ONE TWEET that she removed rapidly. What a fecking state our country is in.

Civil war is not something I'd gleefully embrace but SOMETHING has to be done. I'm frustrated and mad. Good riddance to this year and I fervently pray that by some miracle a general Election comes into play. Labour are dead in the water.

Amen.

Waits for the howls of outrage.....:idc:

Mystic Mock
30-12-2025, 08:51 AM
Starmer is admittedly an atrocious leader and person.

But I still say Putin is the most evil politician out of the more powerful nations around the world.

And outside of Politicians I do strongly dislike Prince Andrew.

Liam-
30-12-2025, 12:57 PM
I’m sure all the rapists and murderers are delighted to know they’re better people than some politicians you don’t like

Kate!
30-12-2025, 01:46 PM
I’m sure all the rapists and murderers are delighted to know they’re better people than some politicians you don’t like

They aren't worse people. In my opinion. I'd say they are on a par.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 01:47 PM
:skull:

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 01:49 PM
If your opinion requires minimising rape and murder to make a political point, the problem is not the politicians.

Liam-
30-12-2025, 01:50 PM
They aren't worse people. In my opinion. I'd say they are on a par.

Then you need to give your head a serious wobble and yourself a reality check I’m afraid, because that’s actually insane

Kate!
30-12-2025, 01:54 PM
If your opinion requires minimising rape and murder to make a political point, the problem is not the politicians.

Where did I minimise it? QUOTE me? I said I think they are on a par because they condone these things by the sheer lunacy of welcoming these types into our country and rolling out the red carpet.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 01:56 PM
Trump. Constant bad faith. Undermines democracy. Stokes division on purpose. Zero responsibility. Endless chaos.

Netanyahu. War dragged on with no credible endgame. Civilian deaths waved away. Criticism framed as hatred. Power before people.

Putin. Still a war criminal. Still lying. Still grinding lives into the dirt to protect his own grip on power.

Elon Musk. Bought influence. Pushed misinformation. Played politics like a meme while real damage followed.

Culture war grifters. Erika Kirk is prime example. The full lot of them. Turning tragedy, fear, and outrage into clicks, donations, and clout. No solutions. Just noise.

And honestly, anyone equating politicians they dislike with rapists and murderers. That level of moral rot deserves its own dishonourable mention.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 01:56 PM
Then you need to give your head a serious wobble and yourself a reality check I’m afraid, because that’s actually insane

Condoning these scumbags actions as Labour do is as bad as the actual rapes ans murders. Starmer has said he's delighted to welcome them into our country fgs.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 01:56 PM
Where did I minimise it? QUOTE me? I said I think they are on a par because they condone these things by the sheer lunacy of welcoming these types into our country and rolling out the red carpet.

They aren't worse people. In my opinion. I'd say they are on a par.

Right there :skull:

Kate!
30-12-2025, 01:58 PM
Trump. Constant bad faith. Undermines democracy. Stokes division on purpose. Zero responsibility. Endless chaos.

Netanyahu. War dragged on with no credible endgame. Civilian deaths waved away. Criticism framed as hatred. Power before people.

Putin. Still a war criminal. Still lying. Still grinding lives into the dirt to protect his own grip on power.

Elon Musk. Bought influence. Pushed misinformation. Played politics like a meme while real damage followed.

Culture war grifters. Erika Kirk is prime example. The full lot of them. Turning tragedy, fear, and outrage into clicks, donations, and clout. No solutions. Just noise.

And honestly, anyone equating politicians they dislike with rapists and murderers. That level of moral rot deserves its own dishonourable mention.

Reporting.

I'm am not morally rotten for despising people who support rape and murder.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 01:59 PM
You literally just did it again.

You put politicians “on a par” with rapists and murderers. That is the minimising. You do not need to say the word minimise for it to be what you are doing.

Rapists and murderers commit the crimes. They choose to do it. They are directly responsible.

Politicians making immigration decisions you hate are not the same thing. Even if you think the policy is bad. Even if you think it is reckless. Even if harm follows. That is still not morally equivalent to committing rape or murder.

Saying “they condone it by welcoming people in” is a massive leap. Most migrants do not rape or murder anyone. You are collapsing millions of people into the actions of a tiny minority to justify an extreme comparison.

That is why people are pushing back. Not because you are edgy. Not because you are brave. Because the logic is sloppy and the comparison is absurd.

You can hate immigration policy. Fine. Argue that.
But the moment you put lawmakers on the same level as rapists and murderers, you have lost all sense of proportion.

arista
30-12-2025, 02:00 PM
[On 29 July 2024, Lucy Connolly, then 41, a childminder and the wife of a Conservative West Northamptonshire Councillor, posted a tweet calling for "[mass deportation now" and for [B]hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire, adding: "If that makes me racist, so be it".X subsequently said the post had not violated their rules.Connolly was arrested on 6 August; she was charged with "publishing written material which was threatening, abusive or insulting, intending thereby to stir up racial hatred or having regard to all the circumstances]


Kate on Lucy
She had to be charged

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:01 PM
[On 29 July 2024, Lucy Connolly, then 41, a childminder and the wife of a Conservative West Northamptonshire Councillor, posted a tweet calling for "[mass deportation now" and for [B]hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire, adding: "If that makes me racist, so be it".X subsequently said the post had not violated their rules.Connolly was arrested on 6 August; she was charged with "publishing written material which was threatening, abusive or insulting, intending thereby to stir up racial hatred or having regard to all the circumstances]


Kate on Lucy
She had to be charged

Then why is it alright for this current guy in.the news to come here and be given red carpet treatment when he's far far worse than Lucy Connolly.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:03 PM
IN MY OPINION it's morally every bit as bad to enable rapes amd murders. Which is what this Government are doing.

arista
30-12-2025, 02:05 PM
Then why is it alright for this current guy in.the news to come here and be given red carpet treatment when he's far far worse than Lucy Connolly.


On the Egypt Fella

PM Starmer was not aware of his Killing tweets


He is now
but is on a Holiday


Eygpt fella tweeted White folk are dogs
and must be killed (aged 30 at that time)

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:06 PM
On the Egypt Fella

PM Starmer was not aware of his Killing tweets


He is now
but is on a Holiday


He tweeted White folk are dogs
and must be killed (aged 30 at that time)

He was indeed aware of the tweets. He's just a bare faced liar.

arista
30-12-2025, 02:07 PM
He was indeed aware of the tweets. He's just a bare faced liar.


But The Government Spokesperson
said he was not aware.


So it is Official

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:07 PM
So wait a minute, Lucy connelly shouldn’t have been charged for her tweets but this man needs punishing for his because he’s brown?

Swan
30-12-2025, 02:14 PM
So wait a minute, Lucy connelly shouldn’t have been charged for her tweets but this man needs punishing for his because he’s brown?

It's not because he's brown, it's because he wished death on a different race of people to his own, and a different religion to his own. I thought that type of thing was what the left were firmly against?

Liam-
30-12-2025, 02:14 PM
So wait a minute, Lucy connelly shouldn’t have been charged for her tweets but this man needs punishing for his because he’s brown?

That’s literally the entire mindset behind reform and it’s voters, straight white people good, everyone else bad

arista
30-12-2025, 02:15 PM
So wait a minute, Lucy connelly shouldn’t have been charged for her tweets but this man needs punishing for his because he’s brown?


No, she broke the Law
and had to be charged

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:15 PM
It's not because he's brown, it's because he wished death on a different race of people to his own, and a different religion to his own. I thought that type of thing was what the left were firmly against?

So did Lucy Connelly….

Swan
30-12-2025, 02:16 PM
So did Lucy Connelly….

Im not defending her, i haven't opposed her punishment.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:20 PM
So either both are unacceptable and both deserve consequences, or neither does. Picking and choosing just makes the whole argument collapse.

Maru
30-12-2025, 02:20 PM
There are "worse" people than politicians, certainly, but politicians have the ability to do more damage to society on the whole...

Benjamin
30-12-2025, 02:22 PM
Reporting.

I'm am not morally rotten for despising people who support rape and murder.

With all due respect you shouldn’t be reporting that when you’ve literally said ‘anyone who supports AND anyone at all who still supports these stinking bastards!’ are the worst people of 2025. It’s hypocritical of you.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:25 PM
So wait a minute, Lucy connelly shouldn’t have been charged for her tweets but this man needs punishing for his because he’s brown?

Now that's not what I said is it? Calling me a racist yet again.

James ChristmasNeeve

Can this NOT be stopped.

Swan
30-12-2025, 02:26 PM
So either both are unacceptable and both deserve consequences, or neither does. Picking and choosing just makes the whole argument collapse.

Both are unacceptable and deserve consequences, yes. What contributes to the argument collapsing is ignoring his blatant racism, by claiming anyone who questions his wishing death on those different to him, are racist themselves. It's a very ironic contradiction.

Anyway, wont go round in circles, off to walk the dog, have a good one.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:28 PM
Both are unacceptable and deserve consequences, yes. What contributes to the argument collapsing is ignoring his blatant racism, by claiming anyone who questions his wishing death on those different to him, are racist themselves. It's a very ironic contradiction.

Anyway, wont go round in circles, off to walk the dog, have a good one.

But again, some ignored Lucy Connellys racism and defended her for wanting to burn them alive.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:29 PM
With all due respect you shouldn’t be reporting that when you’ve literally said ‘anyone who supports AND anyone at all who still supports these stinking bastards!’ are the worst people of 2025. It’s hypocritical of you.

Yeah go on, support your mate. He insulted me yet again. I reported it. As is my right. If mods think I'm out of order THEY can tell me. You aren't the one he Ci standby targets. I'm sick of it.

Benjamin
30-12-2025, 02:32 PM
Yeah go on, support your mate. He insulted me yet again. I reported it. As is my right. If mods think I'm out of order THEY can tell me. You aren't the one he Ci standby targets. I'm sick of it.

I’m not supporting anyone. I’m calling out you being a hypocrite. It’s ok for you to insult others but not the other way around.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:33 PM
But again, some ignored Lucy Connellys racism and defended her for wanting to burn them alive.

I didn't. I said she was under extreme provocation. 31 months in jail was far too harsh.

Also to Arista while I'm here ... I believe Starmer did know. But let's say he didn't amd now he's on holiday?? So what? He's our Prime Minister and it's his resinsibly to deal with these things. Or delegate. People are furious over this guy. No it's all out in the open he should be deported straightaway. NOT because he's brown.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:35 PM
I’m not supporting anyone. I’m calling out you being a hypocrite. It’s ok for you to insult others but not the other way around.

I don't follow Glenn round the forum looking to wind him up. Like he does to me. Fair enough, I should ignore him but I'm bloody SICK of it!

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:36 PM
I didn't. I said she was under extreme provocation. 31 months in jail was far too harsh.

That is still defending her. You are just using softer words.

Calling it “extreme provocation” is an excuse. Lots of people feel provoked. Most do not call for people to be burned alive.

You do not get to say racism is wrong and then downgrade it when it comes from someone you sympathise with. That is the double standard people keep pointing out.

You can argue the sentence was too harsh. Fine. That is a separate debate. But pretending her words were somehow understandable because she was upset is still minimising what she actually said.

Either racism and wishing death on groups is unacceptable full stop, or it is acceptable when the vibes feel right. You cannot have it both ways.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:37 PM
And btw there's no forum rules that say we can't say bad things about public figures. Just other members.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:39 PM
I don't follow Glenn round the forum looking to wind him up. Like he does to me. Fair enough, I should ignore him but I'm bloody SICK of it!

That is pure fantasy.

I reply to posts. On a forum. That is literally what it is for. I do not follow you anywhere. You just keep posting takes that invite pushback and then take it personally.

If you were actually sick of it, you would have ignored me about ten replies ago. Instead you keep escalating, dragging mods in, asking for votes, and narrating your feelings to the room.

Disagreement is not harassment. Someone not nodding along is not being wound up.

This victim routine every time someone challenges you is getting old fast.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:40 PM
That is still defending her. You are just using softer words.

Calling it “extreme provocation” is an excuse. Lots of people feel provoked. Most do not call for people to be burned alive.

You do not get to say racism is wrong and then downgrade it when it comes from someone you sympathise with. That is the double standard people keep pointing out.

You can argue the sentence was too harsh. Fine. That is a separate debate. But pretending her words were somehow understandable because she was upset is still minimising what she actually said.

Either racism and wishing death on groups is unacceptable full stop, or it is acceptable when the vibes feel right. You cannot have it both ways.

Not bothered what you say. With Lucy there were very strong extenuating circumstances. This man however repeatedly spewed hatred via several tweets. Not removed like Lucy did. Because she was remorseful. Unlike him.

Benjamin
30-12-2025, 02:42 PM
And btw there's no forum rules that say we can't say bad things about public figures. Just other members.

Your opening statement applies to forum members though…

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:43 PM
That is pure fantasy.

I reply to posts. On a forum. That is literally what it is for. I do not follow you anywhere. You just keep posting takes that invite pushback and then take it personally.

If you were actually sick of it, you would have ignored me about ten replies ago. Instead you keep escalating, dragging mods in, asking for votes, and narrating your feelings to the room.

Disagreement is not harassment. Someone not nodding along is not being wound up.

This victim routine every time someone challenges you is getting old fast.

Your behaviour towards me grew old fast years ago. I'm your literal go to punchbag. I still maintain your first post in.here which got removed was noth8mg but an insult and obviously it was valid or it wouldn't have been deleted now would it.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:43 PM
Your opening statement applies to forum members though…

I'll rephrase it.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:44 PM
Not bothered what you say. With Lucy there were very strong extenuating circumstances. This man however repeatedly spewed hatred via several tweets. Not removed like Lucy did. Because she was remorseful. Unlike him.

You are still doing it. You just keep changing the excuse.

Now it is “extenuating circumstances”. Before it was provocation. Before that it was remorse. Every time the same behaviour gets a new label so you can defend one and condemn the other.

Deleting a tweet after you post it does not magically undo what was said. Racism does not become less racist because someone panicked afterwards.

And remorse is not something you get to declare into existence because it suits your argument. Plenty of people delete things when they realise there are consequences. That is not moral growth. That is self preservation.

You are bending over backwards to split hairs because you want one person punished and the other cushioned. That is the double standard. That is what you keep refusing to own.

You can argue about sentencing. You can argue about consistency in law. But stop pretending this is about principle when you keep moving the goalposts to protect one side.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:45 PM
I'll rephrase it.

Plenty of people delete things when they realise there are consequences. That is not moral growth. That is self preservation.

Benjamin
30-12-2025, 02:46 PM
On the matter. There are worse people than Starmer out there, which have already been mentioned.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:49 PM
Plenty of people delete things when they realise there are consequences. That is not moral growth. That is self preservation.

Nope. I did it out of respect for what Ben said. It's called playing fair. It wasn't to wriggle out of anything but because I phrased it wrong and don't wish to insult fms. He wasn't rude to me. He just said his piece.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:50 PM
On the matter. There are worse people than Starmer out there, which have already been mentioned.

But that's my opinion. He's inhuman. Has not one single redeeming quality.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:51 PM
But wishing people be burned alive is ok

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 02:52 PM
Or Trump, an actual rapist

bots
30-12-2025, 02:54 PM
Happy new year

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:56 PM
But wishing people be burned alive is ok

Oh let it drop. She's mentally ill. There were extenuating circumstances.

As you full well know I've had mental health issues.and an addiction.And I did some bad things. Of which I'm still ashamed now. It's something I can't change and have to live with. I don't sugar-coat it.

But then some people have capacity for understanding amd forgiveness. You are very harsh Glenn. If you feel insulted then I'm sorry but it's not the best of traits.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 02:56 PM
Happy new year

:joker:

Love you Bots

Benjamin
30-12-2025, 02:59 PM
But that's my opinion. He's inhuman. Has not one single redeeming quality.

And that’s my opinion.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 03:00 PM
Oh let it drop. She's mentally ill. There were extenuating circumstances.

As you full well know I've had mental health issues.and an addiction.And I did some bad things. Of which I'm still ashamed now. It's something I can't change and have to live with. I don't sugar-coat it.

But then some people have capacity for understanding amd forgiveness. You are very harsh Glenn. If you feel insulted then I'm sorry but it's not the best of traits.

I am not denying mental illness. I am denying the way it keeps being used as a get out of jail free card.

Mental illness explains behaviour. It does not erase responsibility for it. You of all people should know that, because you literally just said you own what you did and do not sugar coat it. That is the difference.

Understanding is not the same thing as excusing. Forgiveness is not the same thing as pretending harm did not happen. You keep blurring those lines whenever it suits your argument.

Calling out racism or violent language is not being harsh. It is being consistent. If that feels uncomfortable, maybe sit with why instead of turning it into a personality flaw of mine.

And I am not insulted. I am disagreeing. Those are not the same thing, even if you really want them to be.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 03:09 PM
Some more

Nigel Farage.
Made a career out of fear. Sells outrage. Offers nothing concrete. Always pointing at enemies. Never taking responsibility for the mess he helps create.

Andrew Tate.
Built a brand on misogyny and grievance. Teaches boys that cruelty equals strength. Pure rot dressed up as confidence.

Boris Johnson.
Lied as a reflex. Partied while people followed the rules and missed funerals. Faced consequences. Shrugged. Moved on richer.

Priti Patel.
Built a persona on cruelty. Treated human suffering like a branding exercise. Smiled while doing it.

Ron DeSantis.
Uses minorities as punchlines to score points. Governs through culture war stunts instead of competence.

J.K. Rowling.
Obsessed. Wealthy. Powerful. Still punching down every chance she gets. Chose grievance over empathy and will not let it go.

Tommy Robinson.
Feeds anger to people who already feel hard done by. Offers no solutions. Just rage and donations.

And most media outlets

Swan
30-12-2025, 03:26 PM
Some more

Nigel Farage.
Made a career out of fear. Sells outrage. Offers nothing concrete. Always pointing at enemies. Never taking responsibility for the mess he helps create.

Andrew Tate.
Built a brand on misogyny and grievance. Teaches boys that cruelty equals strength. Pure rot dressed up as confidence.

Boris Johnson.
Lied as a reflex. Partied while people followed the rules and missed funerals. Faced consequences. Shrugged. Moved on richer.

Priti Patel.
Built a persona on cruelty. Treated human suffering like a branding exercise. Smiled while doing it.

Ron DeSantis.
Uses minorities as punchlines to score points. Governs through culture war stunts instead of competence.

J.K. Rowling.
Obsessed. Wealthy. Powerful. Still punching down every chance she gets. Chose grievance over empathy and will not let it go.

Tommy Robinson.
Feeds anger to people who already feel hard done by. Offers no solutions. Just rage and donations.

And most media outlets

Farage - You're describing at least 80% of all party leaders, historically, and now, including Sir Kier

Tate - No one takes him seriously, and never really did. Just impressionable young boys. Also, not seen it mentioned on tibbs, maybe it has idk but he got beat recently, unanimously at that, in one of those silly boxing matches celebs do, by a guy who came to the ring playing Mariah Carey's All i want for Christmas as his entrance music, while wearing pink boxing gloves. Tate is finished.

Boris Johnson - Knob head, just as the cost of living crisis started, he stoop on a podium advising people though struggling that "if they buy a new kettle" they could save up to "£10 a year" what a joke, and how out of touch with the real world!!

Priti - Yeah, i didn't hate her, but she could be very cynical

J.K - Generally thinks she cares about women's rights. I never really got too stuck into those debates though.

Robinson - I stay away from that. But he has said the odd thing i agree with. But again, don't take much notice, or cares what he does.

Kate!
30-12-2025, 03:28 PM
Another 2

Charles and Camilla. Utterly abhorrent in every way.

Swan
30-12-2025, 03:28 PM
I am 100% against ALL royals

thesheriff443
30-12-2025, 03:33 PM
I am 100% against ALL royals

You shouldn’t be
For all that they have you or anyone else on here wouldn’t swap lives with them

The job comes first tradition comes first
They have to do what they are told to do

thesheriff443
30-12-2025, 03:35 PM
Also people that hate on the royals
If there was no monarchy they would still be in richest they would still own all the homes still have all the contacts and would actually do what they want

Swan
30-12-2025, 03:36 PM
You shouldn’t be
For all that they have you or anyone else on here wouldn’t swap lives with them

The job comes first tradition comes first
They have to do what they are told to do

I can honestly tell you, i wouldn't wanna swap lives with them.

Liam-
30-12-2025, 03:41 PM
This thread is a great example of what radicalisation can do to people who have a chip on their shoulder and are fed continuous nonsense about people that have no impact on their lives whatsoever, to blame minorities for all of life’s problems rather than focusing on the real issues at hand

thesheriff443
30-12-2025, 03:43 PM
I can honestly tell you, i wouldn't wanna swap lives with them.

Exactly

Kate!
30-12-2025, 04:00 PM
This thread is a great example of what radicalisation can do to people who have a chip on their shoulder and are fed continuous nonsense about people that have no impact on their lives whatsoever, to blame minorities for all of life’s problems rather than focusing on the real issues at hand

More insults. Sigh. I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I'm THE softest hearted most forgiving type ever. It takes an awful lot for me to HATE. And how can you say Starmer doesn't have an impact. Of course he bloody well does. What a ridiculous statement.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 04:01 PM
:joker:

Parmy
30-12-2025, 04:02 PM
So did Lucy Connelly….

She didn't wish anyone dead.

Livia
30-12-2025, 04:03 PM
All the trans activists who threatened JK Rowling and her family with rape, torture and death. When do they get their three years in the Big House?

Really though, the list is long and I prefer to think about the good people in the world.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 04:04 PM
She didn't wish anyone dead.

Of course she didn’t. You know, setting fires to buildings with people inside it means something else.

Parmy
30-12-2025, 04:11 PM
This thread is a great example of what radicalisation can do to people who have a chip on their shoulder and are fed continuous nonsense about people that have no impact on their lives whatsoever, to blame minorities for all of life’s problems rather than focusing on the real issues at hand

Says the man that earlier in the thread labelled half the country as homophobic racists.

Parmy
30-12-2025, 04:13 PM
Of course she didn’t. You know, setting fires to buildings with people inside it means something else.

She didn't wish for it to happen though, just said she didnt care if it did.

The other bloke though...the one you are very quiet about because he's not a white reform voter....omg, now that's racism.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 04:16 PM
She didn't wish for it to happen though, just said she didnt care if it did.

The other bloke though...the one you are very quiet about because he's not a white reform voter....omg, now that's racism.

“Set fire to all of the hotels full of the bastards”

If you’re gonna defend the racists words then at least know what you’re defending :joker:

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 04:19 PM
At the very least she was wishing injury on them.

Glenn.
30-12-2025, 04:20 PM
Says the man that earlier in the thread labelled half the country as homophobic racists.

If the shoe fits. By all means refute it