Taylor Swift made an album of 31 songs and they all sound like Samsung ringtones

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

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[Barry.]

Isn’t she worth millions?

[Glenn.]

Isn’t she worth millions?

Over a billion

[Glenn.]

1.6 to be more accurate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Big money in ringtones

look at crazy frog

he is minted

[Glenn.]

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[Zizu]

:joker:

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Ed Sheeran’s albums are full of songs that sound like other artists songs ..

Luckily he has the best legal team around

Allegedly

[Barry.]

Over a billion

Not a Swifte myself but can’t knock her down from earning all that money. She’s having the last laugh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ed Sheeran’s albums are full of songs that sound like other artists songs ..

Luckily he has the best legal team around

Allegedly

Its amazing people fall for it

I guess young kids dont notice but will do later?

[Cherie]

Moneys not everything, music will not be her legacy :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Good job that isn’t her legacy then.

Her legacy is hit after hit for nearly 20 years.

Owning her work and embarrassing the labels.

Selling out stadiums on every continent.

Breaking records for fun at this point.

You don’t have to like her.

The industry still bent around her anyway.



That is what winning looks like.
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[Benjamin]

Some of her songs are great. Not all, but some. Not sure why some adults feel the need to spend their time actively hating her. Quite sad really. :laugh:

[Cherie]

Some of her songs are great. Not all, but some. Not sure why some adults feel the need to spend their time actively hating her. Quite sad really. :laugh:

Equally why do some adults feel the need to defend her every move, its not that deep really

[Benjamin]

Equally why do some adults feel the need to defend her every move, its not that deep really

No, it’s not that deep, but the actively hating on her is just plain sad. :laugh:

If people don’t like her (or any artist) is fine, but it’s odd when people fixate on so much hatred for people who haven’t done much wrong.

[Glenn.]

Some of her songs are great. Not all, but some. Not sure why some adults feel the need to spend their time actively hating her. Quite sad really. :laugh:

Very strange use of free time.

[Glenn.]

Saying she has impact is not defending her every move.
It is just reality.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Noticing that most of her songs sound like Ringtones

= hating on her


ok

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[Glenn.]

Every intro of a song sounds like a ringtone no?

[Glenn.]

People discover music shocker

[Cherie]

Some of her songs are great. Not all, but some. Not sure why some adults feel the need to spend their time actively hating her. Quite sad really. :laugh:

No one is hating, get a grip Ben :laugh: its just forum nonsense

[Vicky.]

Bloody love Taylor swift tbh :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bloody love Taylor swift tbh :love:

Another Samsung user i see

:joker:

[Glenn.]

Bloody love Taylor swift tbh :love:

Queen :love:

[Zizu]

Its amazing people fall for it

I guess young kids dont notice but will do later?


It’s clever in that he nicks bits from this and bits from that .. songs from 30 odd years ago that will sound completely new to youngsters or even twenty somethings

[Zizu]

Some of her songs are great. Not all, but some. Not sure why some adults feel the need to spend their time actively hating her. Quite sad really. :laugh:


The Fate of Ophelia is a fabulous pop song ( even if she did pinch a few catchy bits from other songs )

Plus Opalite and Cancelled .. all from the same album are all fantastic pop tunes

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s clever in that he nicks bits from this and bits from that .. songs from 30 odd years ago that will sound completely new to youngsters or even twenty somethings

Agreed its populist slop for the uninitiated. Sad really but they were doing it in the 70s :laugh:

[Zizu]

Agreed its populist slop for the uninitiated. Sad really but they were doing it in the 70s :laugh:


I heard one of his new songs on the radio a few years ago .. they made a fuss about it being the first time played on UK radio

It immediately sounded so familiar that I Shazamed it presuming it was a cover …. it wasn’t

[Swan]

Said it before, she's who kids should look up to, not a Kardashian, or other worthless reality "stars". Her music isn't for everyone i know, and some of it is quite dull (wasn't overly impressed with her latest album), but i do like quite a few of her songs. Not really got a bad word to say about her. She seems like a genuinely good person.

[Oliver_W]

She just makes music for teen girls, it doesn't need to be groundbreaking, it is what it is - and what is it? Very lucrative for her!

[Glenn.]

She just makes music for teen girls, it doesn't need to be groundbreaking, it is what it is - and what is it? Very lucrative for her!

Strongest demographic is from 18 to 34. Big secondary group is 35 to 44.

Her demographic isn’t teens

[Benjamin]

No one is hating, get a grip Ben :laugh: its just forum nonsense

I just find it sad, that’s all. I’m not the one who needs to get a grip. :laugh:

(That’s not aimed at you btw)

[Oliver_W]

Strongest demographic is from 18 to 34. Big secondary group is 35 to 44.

Her demographic isn’t teens

Fair enough, she's not my thing so I've not looked or thought too much into it :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just find it sad, that’s all. I’m not the one who needs to get a grip. :laugh:

(That’s not aimed at you btw)

Its sad a billionaire is releasing ringtones to young, vulnerable "fans"

I think we all agree there

sickening

[Glenn.]

Its sad a billionaire is releasing ringtones to young, vulnerable "fans"

I think we all agree there

sickening


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[Mystic Mock]

Big money in ringtones

look at crazy frog

he is minted

Crazy Frog.:flutter:

[Mystic Mock]

Moneys not everything, music will not be her legacy :laugh:

Is she famous for doing other stuff?

[Benjamin]

Its sad a billionaire is releasing ringtones to young, vulnerable "fans"

I think we all agree there

sickening

I think you’re just a moaner, and showing your age.

[Glenn.]

Is she famous for doing other stuff?

Music and songwriting
1. Writing or co writing almost all her songs.
2. Confessional lyrics about love, breakups, fame, and power.
3. Turning personal drama into global pop culture moments.
4. Genre hopping. Country, pop, synth pop, indie folk, alternative.
5. Story driven albums with clear eras and themes.
6. Easter eggs hidden in lyrics, visuals, dates, and captions. Fans hunt them like sport.

Albums and eras
7. Creating distinct visual and sonic eras for each album.
8. Reinventing her image without losing her core audience.
9. Surprise album drops that break the internet.
10. Re recording her old albums to regain ownership. A boss move.

Live performance and touring
11. Stadium tours that sell out in minutes.
12. The Eras Tour. One of the biggest tours in music history.
13. Three plus hour shows with no breaks. Cardio and spite.
14. Turning concerts into full scale theatre.

Business and power
15. Owning her masters through re recordings.
16. Redefining artist power in the music industry.
17. Forcing labels and streamers to change deals.
18. Building a brand worth billions.
19. Strategic silence when it benefits her. Strategic chaos when it does not.

Awards and records
20. Multiple Grammy Album of the Year wins. A record.
21. Most streamed artist globally in multiple years.
22. Chart domination across decades.
23. Breaking vinyl, streaming, and ticket sale records at will.

Cultural influence
24. Turning lyrics into common phrases.
25. Influencing fashion trends every era.
26. Inspiring academic courses. Yes, universities teach her.
27. Fueling endless online discourse. Think pieces never sleep.
28. Reviving interest in albums as full bodies of work.

Fan culture
29. One of the most organised fanbases on earth.
30. Encouraging deep parasocial loyalty. She knows exactly what she is doing.
31. Turning fans into unpaid detectives.

Feminism and media narratives
32. Public battles with sexism in media.
33. Calling out double standards in fame and dating.
34. Reclaiming the villain edit and weaponising it.
35. Making ambition fashionable for women again.

Film and visual work
36. Directing her own music videos.
37. Writing and directing short films.
38. Concert films that dominate cinemas.
39. Visual storytelling as part of the album experience.

Philanthropy and impact
40. Large scale donations to food banks on tour stops.
41. Quiet personal charity support.
42. Boosting local economies wherever she tours. Cities track it.

Public persona
43. Carefully controlled privacy.
44. Selective interviews.
45. Mastery of narrative timing.
46. Being endlessly analysed. Exhausting, profitable.

Internet and meme culture
47. Becoming a meme without trying.
48. Lyrics used daily on social media.
49. Reaction gifs everywhere.

Legacy building
50. Longevity across four generations of fans.
51. Being treated as a legacy act while still peaking.
52. Setting the blueprint for future pop stars

[Mystic Mock]

Strongest demographic is from 18 to 34. Big secondary group is 35 to 44.

Her demographic isn’t teens

I think that her Music started out for teens tbf.

But her fans have obviously grown up, so that would explain why most of her fanbase are in their 30's or 40's.

[Mystic Mock]

Music and songwriting
1. Writing or co writing almost all her songs.
2. Confessional lyrics about love, breakups, fame, and power.
3. Turning personal drama into global pop culture moments.
4. Genre hopping. Country, pop, synth pop, indie folk, alternative.
5. Story driven albums with clear eras and themes.
6. Easter eggs hidden in lyrics, visuals, dates, and captions. Fans hunt them like sport.

Albums and eras
7. Creating distinct visual and sonic eras for each album.
8. Reinventing her image without losing her core audience.
9. Surprise album drops that break the internet.
10. Re recording her old albums to regain ownership. A boss move.

Live performance and touring
11. Stadium tours that sell out in minutes.
12. The Eras Tour. One of the biggest tours in music history.
13. Three plus hour shows with no breaks. Cardio and spite.
14. Turning concerts into full scale theatre.

Business and power
15. Owning her masters through re recordings.
16. Redefining artist power in the music industry.
17. Forcing labels and streamers to change deals.
18. Building a brand worth billions.
19. Strategic silence when it benefits her. Strategic chaos when it does not.

Awards and records
20. Multiple Grammy Album of the Year wins. A record.
21. Most streamed artist globally in multiple years.
22. Chart domination across decades.
23. Breaking vinyl, streaming, and ticket sale records at will.

Cultural influence
24. Turning lyrics into common phrases.
25. Influencing fashion trends every era.
26. Inspiring academic courses. Yes, universities teach her.
27. Fueling endless online discourse. Think pieces never sleep.
28. Reviving interest in albums as full bodies of work.

Fan culture
29. One of the most organised fanbases on earth.
30. Encouraging deep parasocial loyalty. She knows exactly what she is doing.
31. Turning fans into unpaid detectives.

Feminism and media narratives
32. Public battles with sexism in media.
33. Calling out double standards in fame and dating.
34. Reclaiming the villain edit and weaponising it.
35. Making ambition fashionable for women again.

Film and visual work
36. Directing her own music videos.
37. Writing and directing short films.
38. Concert films that dominate cinemas.
39. Visual storytelling as part of the album experience.

Philanthropy and impact
40. Large scale donations to food banks on tour stops.
41. Quiet personal charity support.
42. Boosting local economies wherever she tours. Cities track it.

Public persona
43. Carefully controlled privacy.
44. Selective interviews.
45. Mastery of narrative timing.
46. Being endlessly analysed. Exhausting, profitable.

Internet and meme culture
47. Becoming a meme without trying.
48. Lyrics used daily on social media.
49. Reaction gifs everywhere.

Legacy building
50. Longevity across four generations of fans.
51. Being treated as a legacy act while still peaking.
52. Setting the blueprint for future pop stars

Fair enough.:laugh:

I mainly know her for her songs and for being in a relationship with the NFL player tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is she famous for doing other stuff?

no just singing

[Glenn.]

Fair enough.:laugh:

I mainly know her for her songs and for being in a relationship with the NFL player tbh.


People LOVE to diminish a powerful successful woman.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People LOVE to diminish a powerful successful woman.

thankfully

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[Glenn.]

People LOVE to diminish a powerful successful woman.

thankfully

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See

[BBXX]

There is no denying she is uber successful and will leave an insane legacy behind. Fair play to her, she's worked her arse off evidently and she's also extremely generous with her wealth. However, she's a billionaire and sits alongside all other billionaires in having too much wealth. Not to mention her carbon footprint is ****ing gross.

I personally dislike the majority of her music, just not my personal taste and I personally think the fact she releases so many songs and albums in quick succession show how surface level a lot of them are. But that is just my opinion based on my own music taste.

Having said that, The Fate of Ophelia is a fantastic pop song, and I can't help but have The Man stuck in my head for days if I happen to hear it. She's obviously got talent of creating pop songs, they're just not my jam 99% of the time.

[Zizu]

She only writes a few of her songs herself ..

I saw a short documentary on her career and she normally co-writes with many of the best songwriting teams around



Money talks ..

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is no denying she is uber successful and will leave an insane legacy behind. Fair play to her, she's worked her arse off evidently and she's also extremely generous with her wealth. However, she's a billionaire and sits alongside all other billionaires in having too much wealth. Not to mention her carbon footprint is ****ing gross.

I personally dislike the majority of her music, just not my personal taste and I personally think the fact she releases so many songs and albums in quick succession show how surface level a lot of them are. But that is just my opinion based on my own music taste.

Having said that, The Fate of Ophelia is a fantastic pop song, and I can't help but have The Man stuck in my head for days if I happen to hear it. She's obviously got talent of creating pop songs, they're just not my jam 99% of the time.

she has the HIGHEST carbon footprint of any celeb

its actually worrying

Her private jet usage amounted to an estimated 8,300 tonnes of carbon
emissions in 2022 – that’s about 1,800 times the average human’s annual
emissions, or 576 times that of the average American and about 1,000 times
that of the average European.

where is Greta?

[BBXX]

She only writes a few of her songs herself ..

I saw a short documentary on her career and she normally co-writes with many of the best songwriting teams around

Money talks ..

She is essentially a brand and is running a business. She is savvy and fair enough.

[Glenn.]

She only writes a few of her songs herself ..

I saw a short documentary on her career and she normally co-writes with many of the best songwriting teams around

Money talks ..

She doesn't. We’ve had this discussion before. She writes all of her songs before she goes into the studio where they are defined and recorded.

[Glenn.]

Here is what the evidence says about Taylor Swift and songwriting:

• Taylor Swift writes her own songs. She has writing credit on every song she has released. Most have her name as a songwriter on official credits. 

• Many songs are co-written with others like Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Max Martin. That is common in pop music. But her lyrical and melodic ideas are real and credited. 

• In some cases she wrote entire albums solo. For example, Speak Now was written only by her. 

• Taylor herself has publicly rejected claims she doesn’t write her music, saying she writes all her songs and that it is false to say otherwise. 

• Some artists and collaborators defend her writing process, saying her creative role is significant and hands-on. 

Claims like “she doesn’t write her own songs at all” ignore the official credits and her own statements.

In simple terms:
• You can trust that Swift writes or co-writes her songs.
• She is not a pop puppet with ghostwriters doing the work.
• Co-writing does not mean she didn’t write anything. It means she worked with others on parts of the song.

[Zizu]

Here is what the evidence says about Taylor Swift and songwriting:

• Taylor Swift writes her own songs. She has writing credit on every song she has released. Most have her name as a songwriter on official credits. 

• Many songs are co-written with others like Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Max Martin. That is common in pop music. But her lyrical and melodic ideas are real and credited. 

• In some cases she wrote entire albums solo. For example, Speak Now was written only by her. 

• Taylor herself has publicly rejected claims she doesn’t write her music, saying she writes all her songs and that it is false to say otherwise. 

• Some artists and collaborators defend her writing process, saying her creative role is significant and hands-on. 

Claims like “she doesn’t write her own songs at all” ignore the official credits and her own statements.

In simple terms:
•You can trust that Swift writes or co-writes her songs.
•She is not a pop puppet with ghostwriters doing the work.
•Co-writing does not mean she didn’t write anything. It means she worked with others on parts of the song.


That’s one source …

[Glenn.]

That’s one source …

This is how she typically works.

• She writes lyrics and melody first. Often alone. Often on guitar or piano.
• She brings a finished or near finished song into the room. Verse, chorus, bridge already there.
• Collaborators help shape production. Tempo, synths, drums, arrangement.
• The studio is for polish, not invention.

Clear examples.

• Speak Now was written entirely by her before recording. No co writers.
• Folklore and Evermore demos show full lyrics and toplines before production.
• Jack Antonoff has said she arrives with songs basically done.
• Aaron Dessner has said she sends complete songs remotely. He builds around them.

[Vicky.]

Another Samsung user i see

:joker:

I am, what's wrong with Samsung?!

[Swan]

Surprised a certain person in this thread doesn't love her, young good looking blonde woman and all that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surprised a certain person in this thread doesn't love her, young good looking blonde woman and all that.

Young
Good looking

:joker:

[Zizu]

Surprised a certain person in this thread doesn't love her, young good looking blonde woman and all that.


If you are referring to me I .. I do indeed like her music as I mentioned earlier .. don’t find her remotely attractive though

[Swan]

Young
Good looking

:joker:

She's not exactly old, early 30's can still be considered young ish. I guess attraction is individual, i find her attractive, but different strokes for different folks and all that.

[Parmy]

I am, what's wrong with Samsung?!

They have the finest looking repair men in the south.


Or did, until I left.:smug:

[Ray.]

Moneys not everything, music will not be her legacy :laugh:

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

People LOVE to diminish a powerful successful woman.

That was not my intention.

I was just saying what I personally know her for.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

There is no denying she is uber successful and will leave an insane legacy behind. Fair play to her, she's worked her arse off evidently and she's also extremely generous with her wealth. However, she's a billionaire and sits alongside all other billionaires in having too much wealth. Not to mention her carbon footprint is ****ing gross.

I personally dislike the majority of her music, just not my personal taste and I personally think the fact she releases so many songs and albums in quick succession show how surface level a lot of them are. But that is just my opinion based on my own music taste.

Having said that, The Fate of Ophelia is a fantastic pop song, and I can't help but have The Man stuck in my head for days if I happen to hear it. She's obviously got talent of creating pop songs, they're just not my jam 99% of the time.

Same here tbh, I like some of her songs, but she's just not my favourite singer in the world.

I don't understand the strong dislike that she gets on certain corners of Social Media though.

[Mystic Mock]

Young
Good looking

:joker:

Taylor Swift is good looking imo.

And I say that as someone that in general prefers dark haired women. So I'm surprised that you can't see her appeal in the looks department.

But fair enough I suppose.