It is not fair on Emily, Charley should be evicted for making that illegal comment to gerry [merged]

[farhad]

She has to be evicted, for making this comment to Gerry.

[Matt]

For once I agree with you.

That was out of order.

[Billy]

Charleys comment IMO was worse than Emilys

[Ruth*Star]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Charleys comment IMO was worse than Emilys
My thoughts exactly.

[ThaGazBoi]

She didn't say peodophile. If you watched live feed the other day, he DID say 'I don't like older men, I sleep with younger men'.

He also told her 'Your a slag, You sleep with old men'

[Matt]

Agreed.

If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm gonna make a complaint.

[Billy]

TheGazBoi - I agree with you, BUT the 15 year old remark was too far.

I am so goin to Endomol, to get Emily back in that show lol

[farhad]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Charleys comment IMO was worse than Emilys

Emily said in a friendship way, but I dont belive why no action is being taken, this far worse than racist word.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt
Agreed.

If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm going to make a complaint.

I think we need to make a complaint now before it is too late.

[Billy]

farhad I agree about Emilys comment.

[farhad]

Originally posted by ThaGazBoi
She didn't say peodophile. If you watched live feed the other day, he DID say 'I don't like older men, I sleep with younger men'.

He also told her 'Your a slag, You sleep with old men'

Saying that Gerry sleeps with 15 year old boys means she is calling him a peadophile.

[Matt]

Normally I look down on those who make complaints, but I'm gonna make an exception here.

Ejecting Emily for saying one racist word which wasn't even racially intended IMHO is unacceptable if they're not gonna eject Charley for accusing Gerry of a crime he didn't commit.

[RahhRahhBB]

Yeh thats true its just BB they need charley in there because its good for TV eventhough no 1 likes her haha
GET HER OUT!!

[Billy]

Matt, shall we start a petition down at Endomol (H)

[Matt]

Lets just do something... this is unfair on Emily...

[Billy]

Exactly. We should message heron myspace, and get her to complain or get her to protest with us lmao

[Big_Brother_Nutter]

Big Brother are *******ing idiots though... of course they are not going to eject her... it's basically her show! :cloud: I think she was very out of order and they really do need to give her the boot... I don't think a warning will be enough... well she didn't even recieve one did she:mad:

[farhad]

Originally posted by RahhRahhBB
Yeh thats true its just BB they need charley in there because its good for TV eventhough no 1 likes her haha
GET HER OUT!!

Weather or not she makes it good TV, making this sort of accusation is not acceptable, think about peadophiles getting beaten up on street, people wanting them to get burned, she should of thought before speaking. Emily was better TV than Charley, but she was removed because of one comment, Charley's comment was worse of the series, she should be automatically thrown out.

[ChelseaFan]

My thoughts exaclty.

[Matt]

I am utterly ashamed at the actions of Big Brother housemate Charley Uchea for implying that fellow housemate Gerry Stergiopoulous was a paedophile.

I am also ashamed at the actions of Big Brother.

Big Brother ejecting former housemate Emily Parr for saying one racist word which wasn't even, in my opinion, racially intended is unacceptable if BB is not going to eject Charley for accusing Gerry of a crime he didn't commit.

During the night Emily was ejected, Charley repeated the offending word a number of times but faced no punishment. She has also become one of the most volatile housemates ever in the history of Big Brother.

I am considering abandoning the programme now as the actions of Charley, over the whole series, are disgusting and I feel uneasy watching them.

I am disgusted with the actions of Big Brother and I am disappointed that as a long time fan of the show I now feel I may have to turn off.

My complaint to Channel 4... anything I could add?

[Scarlett.]

Its coz the BB producers lover her, Emily was chucked out for doing less than Charley so why isnt Charley out?

[Arneldo]

Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

[farhad]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Charleys comment IMO was worse than Emilys

This is just the highlights, Charley probably said more on Live which was edited out.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

To be fair, sleeping with old men for money isn't as illegal.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Matt
I am utterly ashamed at the actions of Big Brother housemate Charley Uchea for implying that fellow housemate Gerry Stergiopoulous was a paedophile.

I am also ashamed at the actions of Big Brother.

Big Brother ejecting former housemate Emily Parr for saying one racist word which wasn't even, in my opinion, racially intended is unacceptable if BB is not going to eject Charley for accusing Gerry of a crime he didn't commit.

During the night Emily was ejected, Charley repeated the offending word a number of times but faced no punishment. She has also become one of the most volatile housemates ever in the history of Big Brother.

I am considering abandoning the programme now as the actions of Charley, over the whole series, are disgusting and I feel uneasy watching them.

I am disgusted with the actions of Big Brother and I am disappointed that as a long time fan of the show I now feel I may have to turn off.

My complaint to Channel 4... anything I could add?

Saying "Don't push me away you n****r" isnt a offensive?

You might also want to add that Gerry should be ejected for implying that Charley was a lady of the night.

[Billy]

Matt - That is illegal lol

[Matt]

Sent.

I seriously will abandon this series of Big Brother if she isn't out this week.

[EindhovenFoxes]

Coming from the country where BB was originally invented, I feel ashamed of it for the first time ever. In the first week Emily was evicted for making a remark (the now infamous N-word) and the whole of (politically correct) Britain complemented BB with this action. However, now that a (negroide, is that a correct word or should I say coloured? I've lost track) makes a completely OFF-track comment, BB takes no action.

I know it's all been said and done, but since the original BB (the Dutch version) has done a live birth in the last ever Dutch BB, Endemol is totally not going to be bothered about a few people on a forum (unfortunately!)

This'll be my first and last post most likely, I just wanted to say something about it. In my humble opinion this is opposite racism. To me it seems that Charley as being a coloured person is allowed to say whatever she wants as BB is not going to evict her for her words no matter what.

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Matt - That is illegal lol

Sorry. I meant to put "as illegal."

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Matt - That is illegal lol

Sorry. I meant to put "as illegal."

Shoplifting isn't "as illegal" as murder but some people serve the same sentence. Why not write a letter to the government complaining about that?

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Matt
Sent.

I seriously will abandon this series of Big Brother if she isn't out this week.

Will you abandon the series if she is evicted by the public?

[Matt]

I am disgusted they haven't ejected her yet. She has been more volatile than every other housemate.

She is seriously frustrating me now to the point where I'm gonna switch off.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Matt
Sent.

I seriously will abandon this series of Big Brother if she isn't out this week.

Will you abandon the series if she is evicted by the public?

If she's not out before Saturday, not caring how she goes, I'm turning off.

This series is the worst ever IMHO.

[lovelyg]

He didn't say she was a \prostitute', he said she was a slag- which yes, is offensive, but he did not imply that she was a prostitute.

I was liking her- read my previous feeds, but not now, big brother don't know what they are doing, because no matter how they showed it, some dickheads will shout it to Gerry on the street, you know that x

[farhad]

I would suggest that posters email Ofcom and Channel 4 about Charley's comments.

What she said was more controversial what Emily said, and Charley should get the same treatment.

If she does not then there are tollerating homophobia in exactly the same way the previously tollerated racism.

That has gone beyond the normal nasty comments.

This is potentially legally serious and she must be taken out as swiftly as Emily

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by lovelyg
He didn't say she was a \prostitute', he said she was a slag- which yes, is offensive, but he did not imply that she was a prostitute.

I was liking her- read my previous feeds, but not now, big brother don't know what they are doing, because no matter how they showed it, some dickheads will shout it to Gerry on the street, you know that x

He said she sleeps with old men for money i.e prostitute

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

[Matt]

Originally posted by farhad
I would suggest that posters email Ofcom and Channel 4 about Charley's comments.

What she said was more controversial what Emily said, and Charley should get the same treatment.

If she does not then there are tollerating homophobia in exactly the same way the previously tollerated racism.

That has gone beyond the normal nasty comments.

This is potentially legally serious and she must be taken out as swiftly as Emily

Hear hear.

Best post of the day.

[Chrizzle]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

Well said

[farhad]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

That's something for her to be proud of is it? Bringing grown men to tears and saying another has sex with under-age boys?

[Matt]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

Agreed.

Tie for best post of the day :)

Oh god. There are millions of words I could call her right now, but I'll settle for self-righteous b*tch.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by farhad
I would suggest that posters email Ofcom and Channel 4 about Charley's comments.

What she said was more controversial what Emily said, and Charley should get the same treatment.

If she does not then there are tollerating homophobia in exactly the same way the previously tollerated racism.

That has gone beyond the normal nasty comments.

This is potentially legally serious and she must be taken out as swiftly as Emily

Oh, don't you think Ofcom have a lot more serious issues to deal with?

Charley AND Gerry said some things which could be seen as offensive to each other. If one person is going to be kicked out so should the other. You cant pick and choose.

I dont think you could call what Emily did as "normal nasty comments". Emily offended thousands of viewers and millions of people around the world. Gerry offended Charley, and Charley offended Gerry.

[Matt08]

Maybe some people should complain to Ofcom aswell as Channel 4.

[Billy]

Chuck em both out, 2 birds with one stone

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley AND Gerry said some things which could be seen as offensive to each other. If one person is going to be kicked out so should the other. You cant pick and choose.

I dont think you could call what Emily did as "normal nasty comments". Emily offended thousands of viewers and millions of people around the world. Gerry offended Charley, and Charley offended Gerry.

Difference being, one insinuated illegal activity, the other didn't.

Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"

[Matt]

Originally posted by Arneldo

Oh, don't you think Ofcom have a lot more serious issues to deal with?

*Cough*RaceRow*Cough*

Useful links:

Complain to OFCOM (http://www.ofcom.org.uk)
Complain to Channel 4 (http://help.channel4.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=C4_Author,Company={2EA1BB9C-510E-44A5-A481-01EB1DDA1669},VARSET_PA=sa_General,VARSET_TITLE=Ge neral,Case=Obj(2085),VARSET_OBJECTNAME=Contact%20U s)

[Matt]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
Maybe some people should complain to Ofcom aswell as Channel 4.

Complaining to OFCOM now.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.

[Foebane100]

I think BB has realised it under reacted with the whole CBB and so it overreacted with Emily, but once it was done and they acted they couldn't really undo it.

I mean for god sake Emily is now thinking of leaving the country for just one stupid use of a word basically.

[Billy]

omg do we really need to get into technicalities, Charley insinuated he was a paedophile. Which is wrong and shouldnt be done end of

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.

Paedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to children
15, is a child. She said he was sexually attracted to a child. I don't understand why you seem to have a different end of the stick to me?

[no1bigbrofan]

She should be kciked out and right now im making a complint to c4

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Arneldo
Charley's comment is not illegal. She said "You sleep with younger men", Gerry was one that brought paedophile into it. Also Gerry started it by saying that Charley slept with old men for money.

Both should have received a formal warning.

Sleeping with old men for money isn't illegal, soliciting yourself for money is however. So his comment wasn't illegal at all.
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.

I never said sleeping with old men for money was illegal. She never called him a paedophile, that was a word he brought into it. IMO both of them were wrong and it unfair to say that one of them should be ejected over the other.

Paedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to children
15, is a child. She said he was sexually attracted to a child. I don't understand why you seem to have a different end of the stick to me?

Charley said "You sleep with younger men", it was Gerry who brought the 15 year old boy thing and the Paedophile word into it. What she said was wrong but saying would "sleep with old men for money" isn't exactly a light hearted insult.

[Billy]

Actually, it was Charley who said 15 year old men

[x-stacy-x]

ive made a complaint to c4 about her!!

by the way wat does "IMO" and "IMHO" mean??

[Lauren]

Charley brought up the age 15. Which is she then asked Gerry "Would it have been better if I said 16?"

[Matt]

Originally posted by x-stacy-x
ive made a complaint to c4 about her!!

by the way wat does "IMO" and "IMHO" mean??

"In my opinion" and "In my honest opinion"

[Lauren]

I've complained to OfCom about it.

[Billy]

gooo stacy for complaining woooop

[Matt]

Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:

[Billy]

I would but i dont know how

[Matt]

Useful links:

Complain to OFCOM (http://www.ofcom.org.uk)
Complain to Channel 4 (http://help.channel4.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=C4_Author,Company={2EA1BB9C-510E-44A5-A481-01EB1DDA1669},VARSET_PA=sa_General,VARSET_TITLE=Ge neral,Case=Obj(2085),VARSET_OBJECTNAME=Contact%20U s)

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:

She also said in the diary room that she could have said 12 and wouldn't have known the difference.

Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.

She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.

I also made my complaint to Ofcom and C4.

[x-stacy-x]

i didnt no how to do its to ofcom.. i got confused wiv the link haha! but i done 1 to c4!

[Matt]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:

She is disgusting.

Understatement of the century...

[farhad]

People, make yr views known to ofcom on charley's dangerous remarks that bb appears to have treated lightly....rememder the N word incident with Charley & the action that was taken then against the other person...thk u

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Matt
Well done to everyone who has complained :thumbs:

She is disgusting.

Understatement of the century...

To think Emily was evicted at 3 in the morning for using the N word against Charley and she has made such a comment against Gerry and no action other than being called to the DR has been taken is outrageous!!.....What she said was totally slanderous and could have an effect on this guy's life when he leaves the BB House....Shame on u BB for just keeping her in 2 keep ratings up...where is the equality?.......

[InTheHood]

Although what Charley said is unfair, do you really think people complaining will make a difference?

Eventually though, they will relinquish Charley for Brian. BB want an ethnic minority winner, after the CBB fiasco (and as a black man, I do not wish to be associated with a fix!) the first twins to win, or a good looking bloke (Liam)

With Brian emerging strongly, we could see BB cutting ties with Charley and gathering momentum towards Brian, which they already have the latter and we know BB edit and fix things to favour their favourites.

I don't think they are ready to let Charley go just yet, but may do so in a couple of weeks.

[the_chosen_one]

Obviously Anti-Charley Logic (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029) is in full flow here, but I've heard several times Gerry brag about only liking "young boys". It's something which he has gone to lengths about to make sure everyone understands, that he likes younger people, and using the word "boys" is just making trouble for himself. "Boys" are male children.

Also, Charley specified she was unaware about the age limit, which is no great excuse, but considering Gerry himself has spent many an evening making sure people know he likes "boys", it was a mistake waiting to happen.

[Chri$]

Originally posted by Matt
I am utterly ashamed at the actions of Big Brother housemate Charley Uchea for implying that fellow housemate Gerry Stergiopoulous was a paedophile.

I am also ashamed at the actions of Big Brother.

Big Brother ejecting former housemate Emily Parr for saying one racist word which wasn't even, in my opinion, racially intended is unacceptable if BB is not going to eject Charley for accusing Gerry of a crime he didn't commit.

During the night Emily was ejected, Charley repeated the offending word a number of times but faced no punishment. She has also become one of the most volatile housemates ever in the history of Big Brother.

I am considering abandoning the programme now as the actions of Charley, over the whole series, are disgusting and I feel uneasy watching them.

I am disgusted with the actions of Big Brother and I am disappointed that as a long time fan of the show I now feel I may have to turn off.

My complaint to Channel 4... anything I could add?

Whats the link 2 email em?

[Matt]

Posted it above ^^

[Matt08]

Personally I think people who complain to Ofcom and Channel 4 actually end up ruining the series of Big Brother for the other fans. Hopefully Charley will be evicted this week, if not then there's nothing we can do about it.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
there's nothing we can do about it.

And yet look what happened in January...

[Feral]

I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Matt2k7
there's nothing we can do about it.

And yet look what happened in January...

What happened in January is a totally differerent incident to what happened yesterday, what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.
Charley's comment is only one comment, which wasn't racial. Why can't everyone stop ruining the series by complaining. We all know that Charley is a nasty bitch. If Big Brother feel the need to interveine in the incident then they will. They don't need fans trying to interfere with the series and one off incidents.

[no1bigbrofan]

i dont recon bb would ever kick charley out couse they love her for some reason

[Matt]

One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.

In which case, I'm gonna keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Matt
One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.

In which case, I'm going to keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...

Then that's going to make the whole incident alot more worse. There's no point you wasting Channel 4 and Ofcom's time and money investigating a silly little incident. What Charley said is unfortunately part of everyday life and you need to deal with that Matt instead of making loads of un-nessesary complaints.

[Billy]

Sorry but Emily the great was FAR too good a housemate to kick out, whereas we have a rubbish one getting kept in

[Matt]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
Originally posted by Matt
One comment got Emily ejected, without any warnings.

Originally posted by Matt2k7

what made the race row even worse is fans that constantly complained about it and made a big deal about it.

In which case, I'm going to keep complaining, and get everyone I know to do it too, in order to get Charley ejected...

Then that's going to make the whole incident alot more worse. There's no point you wasting Channel 4 and Ofcom's time and money investigating a silly little incident. What Charley said is unfortunately part of everyday life and you need to deal with that Matt instead of making loads of un-nessesary complaints.

Tell that to the 50,000 people who complained about the race row...

[Matt08]

Maybe Emily should be let back in but I can't see the point in complaining about Charley, she want's attention and the complainers are just giving her more of it.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Feral
I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

You are 100% wrong, this was Charley's comment;

He said to her that she was effectively calling him a paedophile and her response was "I don't care!"

She knew what she was saying and she didn't give a flying *****.

I can't believe Carole excused her... I can't believe BB excused her... and I can't believe people on here are excusing her.

It's disgusting.:conf:

[Matt]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
Maybe Emily should be let back in but I can't see the point in complaining about Charley, she want's attention and the complainers are just giving her more of it.

The point of complaing about Charley is this:

Charley technically accused Gerry of being a paedophile, which is just as bad as Emily being ejected for saying just one racial slur, which in my opinion wasn't even racially intended.

If they ejected Emily for that, why not eject Charley for comitting a crime that was just as bad?

[James]

Another mass-complaint to Ofcom could finish Big Brother completely.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by Matt2k7
Maybe Emily should be let back in but I can't see the point in complaining about Charley, she want's attention and the complainers are just giving her more of it.

The point of complaing about Charley is this:

Charley technically accused Gerry of being a paedophile, which is just as bad as Emily being ejected for saying just one racial slur, which in my opinion wasn't even racially intended.

If they ejected Emily for that, why not eject Charley for comitting a crime that was just as bad?

Matt you forgot to mention the word Slander, Charley was being slanderous, which is a crime.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by James
Another mass-complaint to Ofcom could finish Big Brother completely.

I definatly don't want to see Big Brother finish completely. Please don't complain!

[Matt]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
Originally posted by James
Another mass-complaint to Ofcom could finish Big Brother completely.

I definatly don't want to see Big Brother finish completely. Please don't complain!

Too late :thumbs:

[Matt08]

I doubt many people will complain anyway, because most people have better things to do. I doubt that not many more than 100 people will complain.

[Noel]

If we all complain, will Ofcom force Endemol to kick Charley out?

[Feral]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Feral
I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

You are 100% wrong, this was Charley's comment;

He said to her that she was effectively calling him a paedophile and her response was "I don't care!"

She knew what she was saying and she didn't give a flying ****.

I can't believe Carole excused her... I can't believe BB excused her... and I can't believe people on here are excusing her.

It's disgusting.:conf:

Please elaborate on what comment/opinion is 100% wrong??!!!

Also I am not excusing anything.

I just do not understand where the complaint actually lies!!! All we witnessed was an argument between two people jousting insults at one another - just unfortunate that an insult insinuated that one person was a paedophille wishing to sleep with under age boys which in fact turned out to be untrue.

Course she didin't give a flying *******!!! She was berating the man and she did not have the instant intelligence nor nobility to apolgise for such a comment till the BB voice told her that her comment may be construed as offensive and cause distress.

I will complain to Ofcom and C4 when I feel it deems appropriate and have nothing better to do with my time.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Feral
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Feral
I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

You are 100% wrong, this was Charley's comment;

He said to her that she was effectively calling him a paedophile and her response was "I don't care!"

She knew what she was saying and she didn't give a flying ****.

I can't believe Carole excused her... I can't believe BB excused her... and I can't believe people on here are excusing her.

It's disgusting.:conf:

Please elaborate on what comment is 100% wrong??!!!

Also I am not excusing anything.

I just do not understand where the complaint actually lies!!! All we witnessed was an argument between two people jousting insults at one another - just unfortunate that an insult insinuated that one person was a paedophille wishing to sleep with under age boys which in fact turned out to be untrue.

Course she didin't give a flying *******!!! She was berating the man and she did not have the instant intelligence nor nobility to apolgise for such a comment till the BB voice told her that her comment may be construed as offensive an cause ditress.

I will complain to Ofcom and C4 when I feel it deems appropriate and have nothing better to do with my time.

Your argument was that Charley did not meant what she said, she was unintelligent and unaware what she was saying, but she was aware what she was saying, she said "I dont care", when Gerry told her she is calling him a peadophile.

[Juelz]

you people are absoloute idiots.

the people who complain are sad and pathetic.

she didnt say anything bad about it, it didnt offend anyone

just shut up.

[James]

Admin message: It's against the rules of the forum to attack other posters for the views the hold. :nono:

Big Brother warned her about her behaviour. They dealt with it.

[James]

Originally posted by Juelz
you people are absoloute idiots.

the people who complain are sad and pathetic.

she didnt say anything bad about it, it didnt offend anyone

just shut up.

And that is out of order that post. Read the forum rules.

[Juelz]

^what a stupid rule
who cares its called a forum we should be allowed to do that^

[Feral]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Feral
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Feral
I am confused as to why people are making complaints to C4 and Ofcom - the views and comments made were from Charleys infantile and unintelligent brain and not the views expressed by C4 nor BB - perhaps BB bosses should put disclaimers before each programme to state this fact.

The comment itself is perhaps slanderous or perhaps homophobic in the sense that the comment was made as an attack to Gerry's sexuality in which Gerry has the right to make an official complaint to the police. Maybe on this fact that 'kicking' out Charley would be the correct thing to do and complaints can be justified.

But as we all know Charley cannot have an intelligent argument and will always use the lowest common denominater and says the first thing that pops in her head - unfortunatley on this occasion she was insinuating that gerry is a 'paedophille' by sleeping with underage boys.

Gerry has admitted in past programme that he likes his men younger but does not suggest under-age.

I do feel that Bb producers etc may have been OTT with Emily and a stiff telling off would have been more appropriate rather than 'kicking' her out of the house but as the Shilpa Shetty vs Jade Goody situation was still fresh then they made a knee jerk reaction to please Ofcom and shareholders then maybe the viewers.

You are 100% wrong, this was Charley's comment;

He said to her that she was effectively calling him a paedophile and her response was "I don't care!"

She knew what she was saying and she didn't give a flying ****.

I can't believe Carole excused her... I can't believe BB excused her... and I can't believe people on here are excusing her.

It's disgusting.:conf:

Please elaborate on what comment is 100% wrong??!!!

Also I am not excusing anything.

I just do not understand where the complaint actually lies!!! All we witnessed was an argument between two people jousting insults at one another - just unfortunate that an insult insinuated that one person was a paedophille wishing to sleep with under age boys which in fact turned out to be untrue.

Course she didin't give a flying *******!!! She was berating the man and she did not have the instant intelligence nor nobility to apolgise for such a comment till the BB voice told her that her comment may be construed as offensive an cause ditress.

I will complain to Ofcom and C4 when I feel it deems appropriate and have nothing better to do with my time.

Your argument was that Charley did not meant what she said, she was unintelligent and unaware what she was saying, but she was aware what she was saying, she said "I dont care", when Gerry told her she is calling him a peadophile.

No I did not!!! Are you reading it correctly???!!!

Not once in any of the posts did I say that she did not mean what she said nor that she was unaware on what she was saying. In fact I had suggested that she is not of the intelligence to have a proper argument stating facts but has little intelligence therefore accusing Gerry of being a 'paedo' rather than having anything constructive to say.

Saying she didn't care meant (well what I percived it as) that she said something offensive with all it's intentions and did not care if it offended. Saying 'I don't care' does not state that she was unaware.

[James]

Originally posted by Juelz
^what a stupid rule
who cares its called a forum we should be allowed to do that^

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[Juelz]

i didn't deny that they were the rules, jimmy.

i merely pointed out the insignificance of said rules.

[lovelyg]

Do we really want Charley to suffer the suffering that Jade Goody and Jo from S-Club 7 suffered?

I wouldn't want her to, she's a loud mouth biatch who has said the wrong thing, but she doesn't deserve that x

[James]

Originally posted by Juelz
i didn't deny that they were the rules, jimmy.

i merely pointed out the insignificance of said rules.

:rolleyes: I can assure you they are very significant. Unless you want to be banned from posting.

[LovelyL]

Do you "complainers" not see the bizarre thing here? You are saying you want Charley out yet Emily should be let back in, by doin that you are doing everything you are accusing BB of......being unfair! You too are imposing one rule for Emily and another for Charley. They both said extremely wrong things so they should BOTH be out.
If you want to make a complaint about Charley's comment but then add "oh by the way put Emily back in" then you dont have a leg to stand on because you are contradicting everything you are arguing for.
Yes Charley WAS wrong and should be taken out but Emily should STAY out aswell.

[Noel]

OK, i just complained. Hi 5! lol.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by LovelyL
Do you "complainers" not see the bizarre thing here? You are saying you want Charley out yet Emily should be let back in, by doin that you are doing everything you are accusing BB of......being unfair! You too are imposing one rule for Emily and another for Charley. They both said extremely wrong things so they should BOTH be out.
If you want to make a complaint about Charley's comment but then add "oh by the way put Emily back in" then you dont have a leg to stand on because you are contradicting everything you are arguing for.
Yes Charley WAS wrong and should be taken out but Emily should STAY out aswell.

Totally agree.I don't get why people even need to compare the severity of either of what they have said.

[Jack]

We all know Emily was the scapegoat to prove that Channel 4 had zero tolerency on racism. What Charley said was wrong but had Emily been allowed to stay in the house the backlash which would have followed would probabl have seen Big Brother taken off the air.

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by Foebane100
I think BB has realised it under reacted with the whole CBB and so it overreacted with Emily, but once it was done and they acted they couldn't really undo it.

I mean for god sake Emily is now thinking of leaving the country for just one stupid use of a word basically.









Give me a break. That girl is so full of s**t,she dint look like she wanted to leave the country in last weeks HEAT mag, out partying

[Laak]

there was no illegal comment on gerry...:rolleyes:

[nodisharmony]

Charley is totally out of control basically.

Everyone can see that and her mission in life, seems to be, to cause as much bother as possible and argue with absolutely everyone and hurt feelings and talk so fast, that we can barely understand her.

She breaks the rules and doesn't care. If she gets evicted, she doesn't care, if she never saw any of the housemates ever again, then she doesn't care.

Guess who let her in?

Big Brother(Endemol), nothing much more to say:rolleyes:






nodisharmony :angel:

[Laak]

:dance2: look what i'm doing to my oui-oui!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Jackboi89
We all know Emily was the scapegoat to prove that Channel 4 had zero tolerency on racism. What Charley said was wrong but had Emily been allowed to stay in the house the backlash which would have followed would probabl have seen Big Brother taken off the air.

That is very true Jackboi89:thumbs:

They will suddenly have strong views against Racism, all of sudden, like a flash of light and opening up the heavens and making a cleansing in such a way, to make them oh-so-perfect

But, in CBB5, they had a different idea and money was sooo important.

Racism exists, but so does unfairness within that very word. It has many sides and forms and can discriminate on a particular group or person, regardless of origin, ethnic or colour.

Plenty of one-sidedness, as suited, when suited.





nodisharmony :angel:

[pete_bennet]

did anyone else see the highlights and it looked like ofcom is still on the back of big bro as they had to give charley one last chance or be thrown out


i think this is fair as emily was thrown out for something that charley also said and got away with it and the the comment to gerry

i think cause of celeb they are trying to be nice to the coloured housemates and let them stay

[Matt08]

Source?

[Matt]

Originally posted by pete_bennet
did anyone else see the highlights and it looked like ofcom is still on the back of big bro as they had to give charley one last chance or be thrown out


i think this is fair as emily was thrown out for something that charley also said and got away with it and the the comment to gerry

i think cause of celeb they are trying to be nice to the coloured housemates and let them stay

It's UNFAIR because Emily got no warnings.

[Billy]

Exactlyuu, Emily shudnt be out (i best stop here or Id be goin on for ages)

[Verloren]

I think they keep her in because they think the show would die a little without her. I do agree that she is far worse than emily was and if fair was fair, should have been thrown out for bullying and for all the slanderous comments a long time ago.

[Matt08]

I think Emily should have been harshly punished but never removed, maybe she should have been made to appologise to the people she offended. I expect they might eject Charley for what she said, regardless whether anyone complains to them or not.

[Verloren]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
I think Emily should have been harshly punished but never removed, maybe she should have been made to appologise to the people she offended. I expect they might eject Charley for what she said, regardless whether anyone complains to them or not.

I seriously doubt they will, although it'd be the highlight of the series for me if they did.

[aj2463]

Oh come on, She didn't call Him an offensive name and saying what She did shouldn't have been offensive, Gerry played on it.

[Verloren]

Originally posted by aj2463
Oh come on, She didn't call Him an offensive name and saying what She did shouldn't have been offensive, Gerry played on it.

Gerry was worried charley would give him a bad name on the outside in one of the worst ways possible. It IS offensive, evidently.

[CassetteFinger]

Hello she said he sleeps with 15 year old boys thats basically sayin hes a pedo come on now :bored:

[Keith_Can]

Charley accused Gerry of sleeping with 15 year olds,. which is saying you are doing something against the law.

Gerry could face serious repricussions from an accusation like that being publically announced.

Its more serious then the bullying/rascism comments that have been made in the past.

Regardless of whether or not the accusations are true or not, Gerry's reputation and well-being are in jeopardy which is very very serious.

Im not just saying this because I dislike Charley. I actually find it less credible coming from her mouth. But I would be angry about this even more if it was any other housemate. It is unacceptable for bb to give her a warning. She should be gone.

[kev2k7]

emily called charley a ******, charley didnt call gerry a pedofile

[*Adäm]

She didn't call him a Paedophile directly, but by saying he sleeps with 15 year old boys, is saying in-directly that he is a Paedophile! Which is just as bad!

It's the same as saying to someone "You steal from shops" which is saying they are a Thief. It's the same difference!

Charley should be removed like Emily was. Both should stay out of the house as they were both wrong. Yes Emily didn't mean what she said in a racially offensive way, but she still said it, therefore she is still wrong.

*Adäm x

[Jackie]

well at least charley got a warning from bb :hello::hello::hello::hello::hello:

[*Adäm]

She didn't!

She didn't even get a warning! All she got was being told her behaviour is being monitored. At no point did she receive a warning!

*Adäm x

[Matt]

She should have been booted out there and then!

[lovelyg]

EMILY SHOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT. She is a pratt, she thought she was being 'street' making friends with a 'cool black girl' she used the horrific n-word, who cares if she 'didn't mean it'. She used a word that has been digrading to many people for years and years. I am a teacher and if someone used that word in my school they would get expelled.

About her wanting to leave the country- exuse me, she doesn't look like she's having such a bad time in heat magazine, topless in the tabliods, she is horrible.

What I would like to know is why th country is being so soft on her, like they have been with racist Danielle Loydd? Because they are pretty. Funny how JAde and Jo O'mera got it worse than Danielle, when in my opinion DAnielle was much worse as she was SO too faced.

If you people don't think Emily has done anything wrong, then god help the state of this country x

[LovelyL]

So if you all think Charley shoulda been kicked out then why shouldn't Emily have been?

[bongaleader]

I do not believe for one second, Charley does not know the legal age requirement for sex. She said that cos she knew immediately she was in trouble by the tone of the BB voice and she used it as a get out of jail card.

The fact she specifically said "15 years olds", to me meant she knew exactly what she was saying and BB knew it. She could have said young boys as Gerry had told her but to maximise the level of hurt she wanted to hurl at him, she deliberately put an age on on her remark. This is a girl who brags about being streetwise so don't tell me she is ignorant of the law.

BB again are at fault here, Emily's defence was ignorance as was Charleys. It's all right saying only one person was hurt here but the whole gay community suffer these slings and arrows and so it reflects on them as well. How would his family have felt hearing that accusasion against there son.

Pedophilia is an odious crime, murderers, rapist's and abusers are often in this category and to be chucked into this group by someone who has set out to cause maximum distress to a fellow HM and then let off by BB is a crime in itself. Being black does not fall into this kind of category. The "N" word is insulting I admit, but child abusers are universally hated and reviled much more.

When I heard it, the first thing I said was she has accused him of being a pedophile and she knew it.

All the crocodile tears were for herself because she realised she came within an inch of being thrown out like Emily.

[no1bigbrofan]

Originally posted by bongaleader
I do not believe for one second, Charley does not know the legal age requirement for sex. She said that cos she knew immediately she was in trouble by the tone of the BB voice and she used it as a get out of jail card.

The fact she specifically said "15 years olds", to me meant she knew exactly what she was saying and BB knew it. She could have said young boys as Gerry had told her but to maximise the level of hurt she wanted to hurl at him, she deliberately put an age on on her remark. This is a girl who brags about being streetwise so don't tell me she is ignorant of the law.

BB again are at fault here, Emily's defence was ignorance as was Charleys. It's all right saying only one person was hurt here but the whole gay community suffer these slings and arrows and so it reflects on them as well. How would his family have felt hearing that accusasion against there son.

Pedophilia is an odious crime, murderers, rapist's and abusers are often in this category and to be chucked into this group by someone who has set out to cause maximum distress to a fellow HM and then let off by BB is a crime in itself. Being black does not fall into this kind of category. The "N" word is insulting I admit, but child abusers are universally hated and reviled much more.

When I heard it, the first thing I said was she has accused him of being a pedophile and she knew it.

All the crocodile tears were for herself because she realised she came within an inch of being thrown out like Emily.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[Crystal-Rose]

She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was she said gerry could get in serious trouble because of her saying that let alone the issue behind it, it was out of order and her excuses for saying it were pathetic the sooner she gets out the better :bored:

[sarahtheangel]

hear hear no1bigbrofan:xyxwave::hello: well done !!!!

[Billy]

can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?

[Stu]

Originally posted by lovelyg
the horrific n-word
So does MTV. Id like to think Big Brother has more influence but im gonna have to go with MTV.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?


I found them both offensive, just like I found Gerry asking Amanda if she has ever given a handjob! But Emilys was an offense to be ejected. Gerry antagonised Charley, and was purposely winding charley up, after she had just lost her best friend in the house. He knew what he was doing, sucking his thimb and such, saying they preffered me to her etc.... He was trying to get a raise out of charley, and he got it!

By the way I love your new profile potentialsuperstar

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by farhad
She has to be evicted, for making this comment to Gerry.
Originally posted by Matt
If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm going to make a complaint.
Originally posted by Matt
Lets just do something... this is unfair on Emily...
Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
they really do need to give her the boot... I don't think a warning will be enough
Originally posted by farhad
Weather or not she makes it good TV, making this sort of accusation is not acceptable, think about peadophiles getting beaten up on street, people wanting them to get burned, she should of thought before speaking. Charley's comment was worse of the series, she should be automatically thrown out.
Originally posted by farhad
This is just the highlights, Charley probably said more on Live which was edited out.
Originally posted by Lauren
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
Originally posted by Lauren
Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"
Originally posted by farhad
Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.
She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Charley is totally out of control basically.

Everyone can see that and her mission in life, seems to be, to cause as much bother as possible and argue with absolutely everyone and hurt feelings and talk so fast, that we can barely understand her.

Originally posted by Keith_Can
Its more serious then the bullying/rascism comments that have been made in the past.
It is unacceptable for bb to give her a warning. She should be gone.
Originally posted by Crystal-Rose
She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was

Anti-Charley Logic. (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029)

[Billy]

Originally posted by nowsthebturn
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
can I just say, what offended you more, hearing Emily say wat she said, or hearing Charley?


I found them both offensive, just like I found Gerry asking Amanda if she has ever given a handjob! But Emilys was an offense to be ejected. Gerry antagonised Charley, and was purposely winding charley up, after she had just lost her best friend in the house. He knew what he was doing, sucking his thimb and such, saying they preffered me to her etc.... He was trying to get a raise out of charley, and he got it!

By the way I love your new profile potentialsuperstar

Yes i agree wat your saying
btw are you talking about my signature and avatar? If say then thank you

[LovelyL]

I am not for one second saying I agree with what Charley said, it was appalling and she should have been removed, without a doubt but my argument is that Emily should also stay out. Its easy for people to say they arent that offended by her comment if you are white, but put yourself in a black person's shoes and you may see it in a different way......

Charley was wrong and Emily was wrong, they should both be out of the big brother house, simple as that

[SairBabi92]

Yeah i agree!

[bongaleader]

Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by bongaleader
Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.










They were not singing at all. Charley was pushing her stomach out saying she looked big and then Emily said that. It wasnt a song it was Emily making a blatantly offensive comment

[Matt08]

If Charley didn't actually use the word paedophile then I can't see much Channel 4 or Ofcom can do about the incident.

[Billy]

Originally posted by LovelyL
Originally posted by bongaleader
Arneldo, Charley did not say "Don't push me away you n****r", she said something to the words of, "you pushing it out ******", I think they were singing a something, which is a completely different thing. Check back on the original thread if you want to.

LovelyL they WERE singing. They were singing and having a laugh and a joke









They were not singing at all. Charley was pushing her stomach out saying she looked big and then Emily said that. It wasnt a song it was Emily making a blatantly offensive comment

[Charleystar]

Originally posted by Matt2k7
If Charley didn't actually use the word paedophile then I can't see much Channel 4 or Ofcom can do about the incident.

Thats what I was thinking, its an interpretation, Charley is just stupid for saying that, and she was well wound up by Gerry at that point. I would have bla,ed her if she meliciously said it, but Gerry was looking for a reaction from Charley, and she lashed out. But likie you said, if it was the law, there is no legal grounds there!

[LovelyL]

potential they werent singing! She said it in a sentence outright. They weren't singing at all and I think if you check it back you'll see I'm right

[Jack]

They weren't singing. Charley said "do I look pregnant?" to which Emily replied "you're pushing it (stomach) out ya n***er.

[Sunny_01]

can we please keep this thread on topic about Charley and not re-hash the Emily incident, it is no longer relevent - if this thread continues to move off topic I will lock it

[Sunny_01]

I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other

[Charleystar]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other

Well said, people cant enjoy a conflictg anymore. Maybe they should kick out anybody that has an argument, that will make it fun!

[Psylocke]

i officially went from liking charley,to seeing her for the ****ing douche-bag **** she really is

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I dont like what Charley said anymore than anyone else does, however are we not starting to sound like a bunch of kids stamping our feet every time someone says something we dont like. In this culture we have of complaining we have all gotten caught up in the "if we moan we get our own way" type of thinking.

I agree that complaints have there place in this society but do we have to nit pick over every little thing. Had Gerry wanted a big fuss caused you can be sure he would have made one. He would have banged the diary room door down and demanded action be taken and kept going on and on until he was satisfied, as it is he did not.

Neither of them were particularly considerate of each others feelings when they argued but do we need a huge investigation because 2 adults had a row and said mean and hurtful things to each other


I could not agree more. This word sensitive treading on egg shells societ we live in today is bording on insanity....

As far as Charley is concerned she did cross a line that I would think is up to Gerry and his legal advisers to consider when they are out of the house. BB should do nothing other than what they have already done and let everyone get on with the show.

Throwing someone out every time an undesriable word or suggestion of a word is used would render a show like BB incapable of continuing.....

Oh for the days when people believed in the old saying of sticks and stones and had enough character to rise above insults without crying for help from nanny state or control freak organisations like Ofcom

[ttw]

I dont agree with what Charley said. But why are people comparing this incident to that of Emily's...just leave Emily out of it. These are two seperate situations.

Emily got kicked out because she used a racist word, which was not only offensive to Charley, but offensive to the public.

What Charley said, as pointed out before, was offensive to Gerry as it was a personal insult.

Whether Charley should get kicked out or not, i dnt know, but as we have seen she and Gerry have made up... but please dont be so ignorant as to say that Emily should be let back in, that is just condoning what she did.

[Nicola]

I think what happened with Emily was a knee-jerk reaction on the back of the CBB racism row. The CBB stuff was made a national incident and Channel 4 didn't want the same thing happening again if they'd kept Emily in or given her a formal warning as opposed to ejecting her from the house.

With Charley saying what she did about Gerry, maybe they felt that her comments only affected and offended Gerry rather than the outside world and Big Brother felt it necessary for the incident to be sorted out among themselves. Having said that, I'm surprised Charley has lasted as long as what she has in the house with her volatile nature and the way she's turned on nearly all of the housemates, and after the Fake Eviction it seems she has more issues with a lot of them now after finding out who nominated her and what they said.

[Sunny_01]

Great post Nicola :dance2:

[Meerkat]

That's my complaint sent to CH4 :bigsmile:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by farhad
She has to be evicted, for making this comment to Gerry.
Originally posted by Matt
If she is not ejected over this or booted out this week I'm going to make a complaint.
Originally posted by Matt
Lets just do something... this is unfair on Emily...
Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
they really do need to give her the boot... I don't think a warning will be enough
Originally posted by farhad
Weather or not she makes it good TV, making this sort of accusation is not acceptable, think about peadophiles getting beaten up on street, people wanting them to get burned, she should of thought before speaking. Charley's comment was worse of the series, she should be automatically thrown out.
Originally posted by farhad
This is just the highlights, Charley probably said more on Live which was edited out.
Originally posted by Lauren
She insinuated he was a paedophile, in my opinion that was so far out of order, it was sickening. Bringing something so serious into one of her petty arguments to give her some cred is just not on.
Originally posted by Lauren
Now I don't usually bring homophobia into an argument but do you really think Charley would have said the same thing to a straight man? Had a straight man said "I prefer younger women", her first response wouldn't be "You sleep with 15 year old little girls!"
Originally posted by farhad
Pleading ignorance doesn't wash.
She is disgusting. And BB are disgusting for not dealing with it.

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Charley is totally out of control basically.

Everyone can see that and her mission in life, seems to be, to cause as much bother as possible and argue with absolutely everyone and hurt feelings and talk so fast, that we can barely understand her.

Originally posted by Keith_Can
Its more serious then the bullying/rascism comments that have been made in the past.
It is unacceptable for bb to give her a warning. She should be gone.
Originally posted by Crystal-Rose
She should have been evicted for this i feel its much worse than what emily done, i dont think she realised how serious that statement was

Anti-Charley Logic. (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029)

Pro-Charley Blindness

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness

Unfortunately for your 'argument', I'm objective as possible where Charley's concerned.

Try again.

Here's the link (again) to the appropriate thread...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029

...incase you can come up with an argument.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Anti-everything tedium.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness

Unfortunately for your 'argument', I'm objective as possible where Charley's concerned.

Try again.

Here's the link (again) to the appropriate thread...

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029

...incase you can come up with an argument.

Considering my post, perhaps you should look up the definition of "argument" - then consider the post I replied to, and then look in the mirror.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness
Anti-everything tedium.

Pro-ad nauseum predictability

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Considering my post, perhaps you should look up the definition of "argument" - then consider the post I replied to, and then look in the mirror.
You responded to logic with a flame. Ergo, there's no need for anyone to check any definitions. Love the mirror part, though. Such maturity. I bet your dad's bigger than his, too.



Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-ad nauseum predictability
Manipulum ad nauseum.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Originally posted by spacebandit
Considering my post, perhaps you should look up the definition of "argument" - then consider the post I replied to, and then look in the mirror.
You responded to logic with a flame. Ergo, there's no need for anyone to check any definitions. Love the mirror part, though. Such maturity. I bet your dad's bigger than his, too.



Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-ad nauseum predictability
Manipulum ad nauseum.

The post I replied to


Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Anti-Charley Logic.


My reply

Originally posted by spacebandit
Pro-Charley Blindness


Hmmmm,
so the first is logic
yet
my reply is flame ?

Such maturity

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:


sic transit gloria mundi

[Sticks]

People were hating Charlie before she even went in on the opening night and people are allowing their predjudices to make them hear what they want to here and not what is said.

The age of consent for hetrosexual couples, IIRC is younger than that for homosexual couples, but it is known that "experimentation" between young peopple takes place, unfortunately.

In this light, picking the age of 15 out of the air in the heat of an argument, (Why were they arguing prior to this statement of 15), is quite likely to happen, and if there is confusion this would also add to this.

The Emily issue is a separate matter and should not be dragged in here.

BB dealt with it, and the matter should rest there

BTW Still Neutral

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Hmmmm,
so the first is logic
yet
my reply is flame ?

Such maturity

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:


sic transit gloria mundi
Is that a reply, or an appalling attempt at poetry? The first links to an explanation. Yours is indeed a flame. Ambiguous Latin epitaphs can be so clichéd, can't they? Where does the concept of fame/glory fit into this delusion, exactly?

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Sticks
The age of consent for hetrosexual couples, IIRC is younger than that for homosexual couples
It isn't. The law (as far as England is concerned) was changed seven years ago.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
It isn't. The law (as far as England is concerned) was changed seven years ago.

My Bad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#England) :blush:

I was still under the impression that homosexual age of consent was 18 and hetrosexual age of consent was 16

But it did still seem like a figure plucked at random with out much thought.

[Sunny_01]

but isnt that a perfect example Sticks that not every person is up to date with the law, so if you thought it was older Charley may well have not known!

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by Arneldo
You might also want to add that Gerry should be ejected for implying that Charley was a lady of the night.

nah, though he should be made to make a live TV apology to ladies of the night, they must be mortified to be compared to that creature.

If he doesn't they're liable to form a pressure group, up knickers and complain to OFCOM

[the_chosen_one]

Pandering to the Charley-haters with an attempt at humour?

Spacebandit, it’s clear to many here that you’re trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes (e.g. misrepresenting my post and claiming it was the one you responded to) with subterfuge for your original pretence (“Pro-Charley Blindness”). The fact that CharlotteSometimes has had to systematically dismantle your repeated, petulant rebuttals is evidence that you would rather string out the discussion along any tangent possible in order to ‘save face’, rather than simply admit your possible mistake. I’ll ask you now to please stop.

I’ll also ask you, one last time, to actually take up the debate in this thread..

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=66029

…where you can make a formed argument, hopefully erasing your pretence and proving you did actually have a point to make. This is one way, in my opinion, which you might save some of that ‘face’ you consider so precious.

I won’t comment on this (side-tracked) issue anymore in this thread.

[bighead]

it was unfair, it was discriminitive and rude. she should be chucked

[sunlight]

iam so shocked at some people's comments all i know if emily called me that word she would be on the floor. don't say it's not offensive unless you have ever been called it by some nasty racist. and by the way i don't like charley and think she should have gone along time ago.

[Foebane100]

Not sure about kicking Charley out, two wrongs don't make a right.