Counter Terrorism Police arrest a 13 year old : Double Stabbing (London School)

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2026/02/10/18/106270681-0-image-m-4_1770747467996.jpg


[Police are probing whether a double stabbing
at a school in north London was a terrorist attack.
Two boys, aged 12 and 13, were rushed to hospital
and remain in a 'serious' condition after
the incident unfolded around 12.40pm at Kingsbury
High School in Brent.]


[13-year-old has since been arrested on suspicion
of attempted murder and remains in custody.
The weapon which officers believe was used for
the stabbing was recovered.]



[The headteacher of Kingsbury High School,
Alex Thomas, described the attack as a
'deeply traumatic event for the whole school community'.

He wrote in a letter to parents and carers:
'I am very sorry to inform you that there was
a serious incident at school today in
which two students were stabbed.
Our thoughts and best wishes are with our students
and their families at this incredibly difficult time.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15547119/Counter-terror-police-investigate-double-stabbing-school-left-two-boys-condition.html


Evil Kid

[Parmy]

One of London's most diverse boroughs.

[arista]

One stabbed in the neck.

[arista]

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[arista]

[Attacker 'shouted "Allahu Akbar" during stabbing
rampage at London school' that left boys, 12 and 13, seriously injured:
Teen suspect in custody amid counter terror police probe]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2026/02/10/21/106275403-0-image-a-11_1770760276121.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15547775/Attacker-shouted-Allahu-Akbar-stabbing-rampage-London.html

[arista]

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[Parmy]

Let's be honest, there's something negative regarding believers in Islam happening in the news every single day these days.


This news would have been massive in my day, probably as big as poor Jamie Bulgers sad demise was.

But now it's becoming tomorrow's chip wrappers.

[OnTheRight]

Another Welsh choir boy.

[Cherie]

So young, hope the kids pull through

[Ammi]

…as well as the two victims, I can’t imagine how traumatised those children and school workers are who witnessed it all…one of the children is in a very serious condition, I hope that both victims survive this horrendous attack…

[bots]

and yet what the government want to do is ban kids from having phones in class

[Crimson Dynamo]

Witnesses claim attacker 'shouted "Allahu Akbar" during stabbing rampage at London
school' that left boys, 12 and 13, seriously injured


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15547775/Attacker-shouted-Allahu-Akbar-stabbing-rampage-London.html

[Livia]

Witnesses claim attacker 'shouted "Allahu Akbar" during stabbing rampage at London
school' that left boys, 12 and 13, seriously injured


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15547775/Attacker-shouted-Allahu-Akbar-stabbing-rampage-London.html

Same sh!t, different day...

[rusticgal]

That was my senior school....I took my husband back there about 10 years ago to show him where I grew up as I lived walking distance to the School. It had changed sooo much.

I hope the boys make a full recovery.

[arista]

The School is still closed today.

[Glenn.]

Must be video games

[Glenn.]

One of London's most diverse boroughs.

Oh no I guess it’s other factors at play

[Parmy]

Oh no I guess it’s other factors at play

I was right though....


R u happy your clamour for diversity is causing these things to happen?

[Glenn.]

I was right though....


R u happy your clamour for diversity is causing these things to happen?


Well what is it? Video games or diversity? It’s hard to keep up with you selecting what you’re outraged at these days

[Glenn.]

You can keep repeating diversity if you want, but the evidence doesn’t back you up. Knife crime follows poverty, exploitation, and youth disengagement from school far more than demographics.

[Livia]

Shouting Allahu Akbar suggests to the thinking person, this was another muslim atrocity. Rapes, beatings, stabbings... But some people keep their blinkers on. Wait till a muslim kills someone in the UK just because they're gay because they think gays are sub-human. God forbid, but if something's not done it's bound to happen. I guess then we can have a proper conversation.

[Glenn.]

Imaginary scenarios about sexuality aren’t an argument. We’re discussing an actual crime, not culture-war fan fiction.

You repeatedly asking “what if it was a gay kid” isn’t the win you think it is.

[Parmy]

Well what is it? Video games or diversity? It’s hard to keep up with you selecting what you’re outraged at these days

This is a different story....obviously islamic terrorism...so I will say diversity for this one.

[Glenn.]

The story is teenagers killing teenagers and adults turning it into culture-war point scoring instead of focusing on why youth violence keeps happening. As proven by your very polarising views on the two stories.

No consistency. Just ignorance.

[bots]

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a young person shouting out a well worn terrorist slogan before knifing multiple people also has terrorist motivations.

[Glenn.]

At this stage it’s only been claimed they did…

[arista]

Police have confirmed both lads are now out of danger.


The Lad Stabbing them was a member of that school

Sky News update.

[Ammi]

Police have confirmed both lads are now out of danger.


The Lad Stabbing them was a member of that school

Sky News update.

…ahhhh, I was just about to post this same thing…

In an update on Wednesday, Detective Chief Superintendent Helen Flanagan said the victims were in a stable condition in hospital, and their wounds – although serious – are “thankfully not life-threatening”.

…from ITVX article, excellent news that physically the two victims are making a good recovery…

[Crimson Dynamo]

At this stage it’s only been claimed they did…

"Numerous witnesses", according to Talk Radio

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[Glenn.]

Talk radio and the daily mail. Of course they’re pushing them “claims”.

[arista]

[ahhhh, I was just about to post this same thing…]


Fair enough Ammi,

It is some good news, the two young lads
are out of danger in the hospital.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Met spokesman says that it has not been declared a terrorist incident - but
"due to the surrounding circumstances, the investigation is now being led by
officers from Counter Terrorism Police in London."

[Parmy]

The story is teenagers killing teenagers and adults turning it into culture-war point scoring instead of focusing on why youth violence keeps happening. As proven by your very polarising views on the two stories.

No consistency. Just ignorance.

Swerve the question to insult someone.....bravo for you.

[Parmy]

At this stage it’s only been claimed they did…

Trumps a paedo though, with no claims made...no consistency just ignorance.

[Glenn.]

The Met spokesman says that it has not been declared a terrorist incident - but
"due to the surrounding circumstances, the investigation is now being led by
officers from Counter Terrorism Police in London."

Almost as though a few buzzwords have decided what the actual story is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

London 'one of the safest' cities in the world, Sadiq Khan says, as he swipes at Donald Trump

:skull:

[Glenn.]

Swerve the question to insult someone.....bravo for you.

Trumps a paedo though, with no claims made...no consistency just ignorance.

No one’s swerving anything. It’s simple. Let investigations establish motive instead of deciding it in advance based on assumptions about religion or background.

[Parmy]

No one’s swerving anything. It’s simple. Let investigations establish motive instead of deciding it in advance based on assumptions about religion or background.

Stop lecturing people
...


You, yesterday claimed trump was a paedo. You had no evidence whatsoever, but steamed ahead...now today your lecturing people not to jump to conclusions.

Cheeky bastard that you are calling people ignorant for it..

[bots]

the world is full of speculation these days, and if it forces people in positions of authority to take actions that result in the greater good, i'm all for it.

Without speculation about Mandelson and Andrew, it would all have been brushed under the carpet

[Glenn.]

Stop lecturing people
...


You, yesterday claimed trump was a paedo. You had no evidence whatsoever, but steamed ahead...now today your lecturing people not to jump to conclusions.

Cheeky bastard that you are calling people ignorant for it..

He’s mentioned thousands of times in files we know his government spent months redacting. He has tried every trick in the book to stop them being released. If he was innocent then he’d have no problems with them being released. Like I said yesterday, only a moron would think anything else, or make excuses.

You jumping straight to blaming diversity in one thread but video games in another, whilst talking about kids stabbing each other is the issue. The issue is your own ignorance and bigotry.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A teenage boy suspected of stabbing two pupils at a school in north London was
arrested after he was seen inside a mosque, police have said.

Asked if he had left the mosque by the time he was arrested, she said: “I don’t
know the full detail of exactly where he was arrested in terms of location, but
he was in the vicinity of the mosque.”

[Parmy]

So no proof....only counts when its others.


Very left wing of you.

[Glenn.]

So no proof....only counts when its others.


Very left wing of you.

And using the excuse as video games for a white boy being stabbed and diversity for an unconfirmed incident is very right wing of you.

[Parmy]

And using the excuse as video games for a white boy being stabbed and diversity for an unconfirmed incident is very right wing of you.

It's right though. :shrug:

[Glenn.]

How Parm reacts to all news
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260211/3f3a418ca70a38e1ce80a0303fbd5ad3.jpg

[Parmy]

0<===== The **** I give what it thinks.

[Ammi]

Suspect in stabbing of two boys at north London school is former pupil

A 13-year-old suspected of stabbing two boys at a secondary school is a former pupil who was arrested after being seen at a mosque after the attack, which has not been declared a terrorist incident, police said.

Two pupils at Kingsbury high school in Brent, north-west London, were seriously injured at lunchtime on Tuesday. Both remain in a “stable” condition in hospital with injuries now thought not to be life-threatening.

Det Ch Supt Helen Flanagan, from counter-terrorism policing London, said the suspect, who is a British national and was born in the UK, arrived at the school at about 12.30pm on Tuesday.

He went to a first-floor classroom and, after the door was opened, sprayed a substance towards a pupil, who was not injured. The liquid is not thought to have been noxious.

The suspect then stabbed a 13-year-old boy in the classroom before running along a hallway and down a flight of stairs. He stabbed a 12-year-old boy on the ground floor before fleeing the school.


“Police attended the school and a manhunt was immediately stood up to try and locate and detain the suspect as quickly as possible,” Flanagan said.

“Police were called by a member of the public at approximately 4.15pm over concerns of a child that had been seen at a mosque in north-west London.

“Officers attended shortly after and arrested a 13-year-old boy on suspicion of attempted murder, and he remains in custody.


“At this point we do not believe the suspect to have any particular connection to that mosque and, at this stage, we think that it may have been coincidental that he ended up in that area, and all of those at the mosque have been incredibly supportive of this investigation.

“The incident has not been declared a terrorist incident.”

Officers are understood to be leaning towards the motivation for the attack being related to a personal grievance rather than terrorist ideology.

Some pupils have suggested the suspect had shouted “Allahu Akbar”, a Muslim phrase, during the attack, while another said he had been in a dispute with one of the victims.

Police are exploring different potential motivations for the attack. The investigation is being led by counter-terrorism police because of a concern at the outset there might have been a terrorism motivation, but officers say they are keeping an open mind.

They are not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident, adding that it appears the suspect was acting alone.

About 30 to 40 witnesses are being interviewed, in what was said to be “an extremely delicate process given the young ages of many of the witnesses from the school”.


Police searched three premises – two addresses connected to the suspect and the mosque near where the suspect was arrested.

The lower school remained closed on Wednesday. Conservative councillor Kanta Mistry, who lives not far from the school, described it as “a very secure school”, producing “high-class students” and set in a “leafy London area”.

Having spoken to community members, she said: “Shock is an understatement. We are all very shocked about it, quite saddened, but also quite surprised that it happened here.”

The school’s headteacher, Alex Thomas, said the incident was “a deeply traumatic event for the whole school community”, in a letter to parents and carers.

…full article…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/11/suspect-in-stabbing-of-two-boys-at-north-london-school-is-former-pupil

[Cherie]

At least the two boys will survive physically the mental scars will take a bit longer

[Parmy]

He filmed the attack on his mobile.

[Ninastar]

Genuine question, do mosques get investigated when something like this happens? Like to see whether or not that’s the place the child was radicalised or do they only investigate the homes?

[Ninastar]

Oh, I thought it was terror related

My bad

I still wanna know the answer though

[Cherie]

They always say its not terror related, it will be mental health as per, its an investigation led by counter terrorism bit it isn't terrorism, have we all got that

He had the mental ability to get into the school that he didn't go to

[Barry.]

Gone quiet in here today.

Not shocked. Seems there is more outrage when it’s someone of colour or trans.

[Livia]

Not shocked. Seems there is more outrage when it’s someone of colour or trans.

That is just not true. What more can be said about this? What are you waiting for people to say?

[Glenn.]

One of London's most diverse boroughs.

Let's be honest, there's something negative regarding believers in Islam happening in the news every single day these days.


This news would have been massive in my day, probably as big as poor Jamie Bulgers sad demise was.

But now it's becoming tomorrow's chip wrappers.

Witnesses claim attacker 'shouted "Allahu Akbar" during stabbing rampage at London
school' that left boys, 12 and 13, seriously injured


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15547775/Attacker-shouted-Allahu-Akbar-stabbing-rampage-London.html

I was right though....


R u happy your clamour for diversity is causing these things to happen?

Shouting Allahu Akbar suggests to the thinking person, this was another muslim atrocity. Rapes, beatings, stabbings... But some people keep their blinkers on. Wait till a muslim kills someone in the UK just because they're gay because they think gays are sub-human. God forbid, but if something's not done it's bound to happen. I guess then we can have a proper conversation.

This is a different story....obviously islamic terrorism...so I will say diversity for this one.

"Numerous witnesses", according to Talk Radio

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London 'one of the safest' cities in the world, Sadiq Khan says, as he swipes at Donald Trump

:skull:

A teenage boy suspected of stabbing two pupils at a school in north London was
arrested after he was seen inside a mosque, police have said.

Asked if he had left the mosque by the time he was arrested, she said: “I don’t
know the full detail of exactly where he was arrested in terms of location, but
he was in the vicinity of the mosque.”

That is just not true. What more can be said about this? What are you waiting for people to say?

nOt TrUe

[Barry.]

That is just not true. What more can be said about this? What are you waiting for people to say?

It’s mostly to do with crim and parmy I’m talking about and as you can see the proof is out there

[Parmy]

It’s mostly to do with crim and parmy I’m talking about and as you can see the proof is out there

Show me a thread where I've not been outraged about a stabbing.


Or ****.

[Glenn.]

Show me a thread where I've not been outraged about a stabbing.


Or ****.


This was your first post in this thread. No outrage for the stabbing. Straight to diversity.
One of London's most diverse boroughs.

[Parmy]

This was your first post in this thread. No outrage for the stabbing. Straight to diversity.

Would you not say this is a product of diversity? Kids stabbing other kids in school in our multi racial cities.


Didn't happen in my school days.


What nonsense reason have you got now?


Also, I posted that cause I was outraged about the stabbing.

[Glenn.]

Would you not say this is a product of diversity? Kids stabbing other kids in school in our multi racial cities.


Didn't happen in my school days.


What nonsense reason have you got now?


Also, I posted that cause I was outraged about the stabbing.

No because I’m not a racist.

[Barry.]

Show me a thread where I've not been outraged about a stabbing.


Or ****.

Never said you weren’t outraged by it but your mind went to a darker place at first

[Parmy]

No because I’m not a racist.

Violent Images? Desensitization to feelings?

[Parmy]

Never said you weren’t outraged by it but your mind went to a darker place at first

Tell me why it's only happening in the most diverse places then, change my mind.:shrug:

[Glenn.]

It’s not down to anyone to educate the uneducated. Especially when they don’t want to be educated.

[Livia]

It’s mostly to do with crim and parmy I’m talking about and as you can see the proof is out there

Frankly you can't quantify how outraged someone is, or why.

[Barry.]

Frankly you can't quantify how outraged someone is, or why.

That’s true too but it can look shady, you can see that right?

[Parmy]

Only shady thing is dismissing a reason when you have no reason of your own.

[Ninastar]

This was your first post in this thread. No outrage for the stabbing. Straight to diversity.

Omg :dead:

[Ninastar]

I s2g that was an emoji here oh well

[Glenn.]

Only shady thing is dismissing a reason when you have no reason of your own.

The shady thing isn’t dismissing a reason, it’s inventing one before the facts exist. Your first reaction to a teenager being stabbed was to point at diversity.

Every time there’s a tragedy, some people aren’t asking what happened, they’re clambering over the dead bodies, asking who can they blame. That’s why the diversity comments come before the facts.

[Alf]

Gone quiet in here today.Are you his defence lawyer?

[Alf]

No because I’m not a racist.I don't believe you. I've seen evidence of it over the years on here.

The G word for a start.

[Glenn.]

The word gammon isn’t racist :skull:

Can see how a certain type of easily offended person would think it is though.

[Alf]

The word gammon isn’t racist :skull:

Can see how a certain type of easily offended person would think it is though.The word Black-pudding isn't racist. Like "Gammon" it's just an item from the butchers counter.

But if someone was to call Anthony Joshua a "black pudding" I'd hazard a guess that ypu would call that "racist"

Would you?

[Glenn.]

The word Black-pudding isn't racist. Like "Gammon" it's just an item from the butchers counter.

But if someone was to call Anthony Joshua a "black pudding" I'd hazard a guess that ypu would call that "racist"

Would you?

Calling someone black pudding would be racist because it’s clearly about their race.
Posting a picture of two black faces on monkey bodies is racist.

Gammon is used to mock someone’s behaviour or politics, not their ethnicity.

You tried though. Barely :skull:

[Parmy]

Calling someone black pudding would be racist because it’s clearly about their race.
Posting a picture of two black faces on monkey bodies is racist.

Gammon is used to mock someone’s behaviour or politics, not their ethnicity.

You tried though. Barely :skull:

It's mocking white men....therefore its mocking race.

[Livia]

It’s mostly to do with crim and parmy I’m talking about and as you can see the proof is out there

That’s true too but it can look shady, you can see that right?

I see lots of shady stuff on here. Lots and lots. The insults are mostly aimed at those who lean to the right. Some, although not all, of those who lean to the left think they have a divine right to insult anyone not perfectly in line with them. It happens daily. Not really from you, Barry, you're usually far more measured. And the mad thing is, none of us are supposed to be discussing each other because it's against the forum rules.

I've known Crimson Dynamo and Parmy for a lot of years. They are my friends. They have their opinions, although I've never heard either one of them call for death, sacking, deportation etc of anyone decent, despite their race, creed or sexual orientation. That kind of hysterical hyperbole is limited almost entirely to the left leaners who will follow and peck at anyone they feel has a different opinion so is therefore beneath them. I don't see it anymore, I have them on ignore.

[Glenn.]

:joker:

[Glenn.]

It's mocking white men....therefore its mocking race.

It’s mocking a stereotype of behaviour, not white people as a race :skull:

[Livia]

...Also, some Lefties have all day and all night to sit on here and be obnoxious. It must get boring.

[Glenn.]

Some people really think they’re the main character, don’t they. The idea that anyone needs to announce they’re ignoring you so you’ll notice is peak self-importance. The arrogance of assuming people are waiting for your attention is honestly the funniest part.

[Parmy]

It’s mocking a stereotype of behaviour, not white people as a race :skull:

Do black men get called gammon

[Glenn.]

Do black men get called gammon

I don’t know. Why don’t you ask one.

[Parmy]

I don’t know. Why don’t you ask one.


Just asked one, he said no, because we ain't white.


Therefore it's a slur to insult white people...aka, racism.

[arista]

Oh, I thought it was terror related

My bad

I still wanna know the answer though


Of course,
the Police were able to find out
that the evil knife kid went in there first

[Glenn.]

Just asked one, he said no, because we ain't white.


Therefore it's a slur to insult white people...aka, racism.


:joker: :joker:

[Cherie]

The people who shout racist at everyone and anyone are generally the most racist themselves but they cant see it as they are so busy deflecting instead of taking a long hard look in the mirror, James O Brien is a prime example, he constantly intones about racists, yet when it suits him like ever Wednesday after PMQs he indulges himself in being racist about Kemi Badenoch, he also deliberately mis pronounces Farage which is most immature, yet people ring in and kiss his ass almost daily telling him how wonderful he is :laugh: He was luck Jim Radcliffe gave him something to beef about yesterday so he could ignore Starmer putting another paedophile sympathiser in the Lords

[Parmy]

Winston also said joshua is black and rubbbish at boxing, therefore callling him a black pudding is not racist.

[Glenn.]

You’re still mixing up two different things.

Gammon is used to mock someone’s behaviour or political ranting.

Black pudding aimed at a Black person is mocking their race.

I know you’re extremely dim on things but this is basic stuff.

[Parmy]

Gay Nazi.

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260213/c7f0a506244e2ab11384f620f759a47b.gif

[rusticgal]

I see lots of shady stuff on here. Lots and lots. The insults are mostly aimed at those who lean to the right. Some, although not all, of those who lean to the left think they have a divine right to insult anyone not perfectly in line with them. It happens daily. Not really from you, Barry, you're usually far more measured. And the mad thing is, none of us are supposed to be discussing each other because it's against the forum rules.

I've known Crimson Dynamo and Parmy for a lot of years. They are my friends. They have their opinions, although I've never heard either one of them call for death, sacking, deportation etc of anyone decent, despite their race, creed or sexual orientation. That kind of hysterical hyperbole is limited almost entirely to the left leaners who will follow and peck at anyone they feel has a different opinion so is therefore beneath them. I don't see it anymore, I have them on ignore.


:clap2:

[Glenn.]

I see lots of shady stuff on here. Lots and lots. The insults are mostly aimed at those who lean to the right. Some, although not all, of those who lean to the left think they have a divine right to insult anyone not perfectly in line with them. It happens daily. Not really from you, Barry, you're usually far more measured. And the mad thing is, none of us are supposed to be discussing each other because it's against the forum rules.

I've known Crimson Dynamo and Parmy for a lot of years. They are my friends. They have their opinions, although I've never heard either one of them call for death, sacking, deportation etc of anyone decent, despite their race, creed or sexual orientation. That kind of hysterical hyperbole is limited almost entirely to the left leaners who will follow and peck at anyone they feel has a different opinion so is therefore beneath them. I don't see it anymore, I have them on ignore.

...Also, some Lefties have all day and all night to sit on here and be obnoxious. It must get boring.

This is the funniest :skull:

[Parmy]

Winston wasn't happy when I told him a white gay bloke was telling him what he should and shouldnt find racist.

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260213/10882b21af60c9a467ea2c0e0873f76b.gif

[Cherie]

You’re still mixing up two different things.

Gammon is used to mock someone’s behaviour or political ranting.

Black pudding aimed at a Black person is mocking their race.

I know you’re extremely dim on things but this is basic stuff.

Honest question why do you always feel the need to put others down by insulting their intelligence? It's not a good look on you ...maybe you were never taught this ? if you act like this in your everyday life it won't end well for you :shrug:

[Glenn.]

Honest question why do you always feel the need to put others down by insulting their intelligence? It's not a good look on you ...maybe you were never taught this ? if you act like this in your everyday life it won't end well for you :shrug:

Because when someone keeps repeating the same flawed argument after it’s been explained multiple times, it stops being a disagreement and starts looking like they don’t understand what’s being said.

Again. Basic stuff

[Parmy]

And black pudding is said to describe someone's boxing skills.


How in earth can that be racist while the other isn't.

[Glenn.]

Saying someone has black pudding for boxing ability isn’t the same as calling a Black person black pudding. That difference should be obvious.

Clearly it isn’t but then again we've already established you don’t understand.

[Parmy]

Watching Joshua getting knocked out, and calling him a black pudding because of it, is no different to calling an angry white man gammon. They both describe a skin colour, and both then have a negative connotation attached. On the gammon side, the person saying it is using it ridicule someone's political views and temperament. The person calling a knocked down Joshua a black pudding is also describing his skin colour and they are attaching his negative boxing ability and temperament towards that, to it.


No difference whatsoever.

[Glenn.]

You’re still not getting the basic distinction, and it’s honestly not complicated.

Gammon is aimed at a stereotype of behaviour and political ranting. The insult is about how someone is acting. Calling a Black person black pudding only works as an insult because of their race. The race is the punchline. That’s the difference.

You keep acting like mentioning skin colour and targeting someone’s race are the same thing. They aren’t. One is mocking behaviour people choose. The other is mocking something they can’t change.

If you genuinely can’t see the difference between insulting someone’s politics and insulting their race, the problem isn’t the explanation, it’s lack of comprehension.

[Parmy]

The incidents of gammons use on Wikipedia when researching the word all refer to the faces of white men. David Cameron, described as gammon not when enraged, Merely for being David Cameron. 4 audience members on question time, all white, no words said by then just a camera angle...all described as gammon...

They are both racist. That's my point. Not that they both are not.

[Glenn.]

Both racist only makes sense if you ignore intent, context, and what the insult is actually targeting. And once you strip those out, you can make anything sound the same.

[Parmy]

Well that would make it unfair.


Its fair to mock a skin colour in politics, but not sport.

[Glenn.]

:skull:

You’re still pretending gammon is about skin colour when it’s about behaviour. That’s why the comparison keeps falling apart. Nobody is mocking someone for being white, they’re mocking a stereotype of political ranting.

How are you not understanding this?

[Parmy]

:skull:

You’re still pretending gammon is about skin colour when it’s about behaviour. That’s why the comparison keeps falling apart. Nobody is mocking someone for being white, they’re mocking a stereotype of political ranting.

How are you not understanding this?




Show me a black or Asian person ridiculed as gammon then.

[Parmy]

David Cameron fgs, Mr right wing, who opened our borders like no other. Described as gammon.

Your argument makes no sense

[Alf]

You can also get White pudding.

Would it be racist to call Tyson Fury that?

[Glenn.]

You’re both still missing the same point. Gammon mocks a behaviour stereotype. Calling someone black pudding or white pudding based on their race uses their skin colour as the insult itself. Those aren’t the same thing.

[Glenn.]

Like talking to a brick wall

[Parmy]

You’re both still missing the same point. Gammon mocks a behaviour stereotype. Calling someone black pudding or white pudding based on their race uses their skin colour as the insult itself. Those aren’t the same thing.

I would say, when referring to joshua. The pudding is the main take from the meaning of him being hopeless, not his skin colour ..ie, useless at staying on his feat.



Your explanation above has omitted politics or you've just replaced it with a behaviour characteristic now. that doesn't explain the reason 4 silent question time audience members and a not animated in anyway david Cameron are described as gammon on the wiki gammon explanation page.

[Parmy]

It's not insulting him for being black, it's insulting him for being a pudding at his sport.

You know what a pudding is, when used as an insult?


Calling him black is just describing him visually.

[Parmy]

Calling someone gammon is insulting them cause the colour of thier skin changes when animated.


Dress it up however you like cause that's what it is, but it's allowed when it's against anything right and white.

[Glenn.]

You’re changing the meaning to make the comparison work. It’s like calling someone useless at football and then using their race as the nickname for it. The insult still depends on their race to land.

Gammon doesn’t work like that. It’s like calling someone a drama queen or a loudmouth. It only makes sense because of how they’re acting, not what they are.

That’s why the two things aren’t the same, no matter how many times you try to line them up.

[Glenn.]

It's not insulting him for being black, it's insulting him for being a pudding at his sport.

You know what a pudding is, when used as an insult?


Calling him black is just describing him visually.

Then why do you need to call him black pudding and not just pudding?

You’re nearly there

[Glenn.]

If the insult stops working when you remove the race reference, then the insult was about race. That’s the difference you keep missing.

[Parmy]

Ive been called and called many white people a pudding to many times in my life to care.

There will be more tomorrow during the rugby..So I guess at this point in the discussion I really really don't care Glenn. You come from a different time to me. Im at peace, I hope you finally find it to.

Ive made my point, been insulted for it again. So explained my point rationally, there is no more I can do but that.

Have a lovely day.

[Parmy]

If the insult stops working when you remove the race reference, then the insult was about race. That’s the difference you keep missing.

If you're in a room roaring at a telly the people you're with need to know which pudding your ranting about.

[Parmy]

Glenn....the way you are saying it, it's like you are saying there's something wrong calling someone black! Do you think there's something wrong with being black?


Is that what it is..does the gay white man think black people think like that?

[Glenn.]

If you need to use someone’s race to identify who you’re insulting, that’s kind of the point.

Adding black isn’t necessary unless the race reference is part of the insult.

Which is the racist part. Not sure if there’s a simpler way I can explain that to you. Clearly there isn’t.
Feel free to keep missing the point. Don’t strain yourself thinking about it.

I’m bored of explaining basic comprehension over and over. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

[Glenn.]

Glenn....the way you are saying it, it's like you are saying there's something wrong calling someone black! Do you think there's something wrong with being black?


Is that what it is..does the gay white man think black people think like that?

Wow. You’ve really run out of debate with that one :joker:

I’m gonna bow out. You’re just trolling now. No one is this knowingly stupid.

[Parmy]

That was winstons text.:shocked:

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260213/98b6a55b6b772b57f0ac6bb1d8423364.gif

[Alf]

Was David Lammey "a gammon" when he was having a hissy fit over Trumps politics?

Are you a "gammon" Glenn, when you hissy fit over Trumps politics?

[Glenn.]

No one hissy fits over The Sexual Predator. He’s far beneath anyone with morals.

[Parmy]

In Glenn's world someone could just walk up to this man and call him gammon because he votes Tory.


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Aww2AaHSN/



Sorry for a fb link.

[Glenn.]

Meanwhile this is how Parm sees the whole world.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260213/56d9b74417df7089671e309a293629c9.jpg

[Parmy]

Meanwhile this is how Parm sees the whole world.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20260213/56d9b74417df7089671e309a293629c9.jpg

That my healthy shite chart.

[Glenn.]

You are full of it I suppose

[Cherie]

Because when someone keeps repeating the same flawed argument after it’s been explained multiple times, it stops being a disagreement and starts looking like they don’t understand what’s being said.

Again. Basic stuff

Well, that is as maybe, everyone has their own opinion which should be considered and responded to with courtesy, you set yourself up as knowing everything and coming from some higher intellect, but responding with school boy jibes just loses you all credibility

[Parmy]

Well, that is as maybe, everyone has their own opinion which should be considered and responded to with courtesy, you set yourself up as knowing everything and coming from some higher intellect, but responding with school boy jibes just loses you all credibility

Which is lucky for me.:joker:

[Glenn.]

Well, that is as maybe, everyone has their own opinion which should be considered and responded to with courtesy, you set yourself up as knowing everything and coming from some higher intellect, but responding with school boy jibes just loses you all credibility

Everyone can have an opinion, but that doesn’t mean every opinion makes sense. If the same point gets explained and ignored, the conversation just goes in circles.