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I.love.Rhydian
28-07-2007, 08:14 PM
why does'nt anyone like ziggy? i think he is a really nice bloke and he really likes chanelle... i dont know why everyone thinks he is using her. ZIGGY 2 WIN !!! :thumbs:
~Beachbum~
28-07-2007, 08:41 PM
hes a complete PRAT!!!
he has nothing to offer except um and arr about whther he shud be going out with chanelle - hes using her to stay in the game..
also he has no proper sense of fun - and is not genuine!
No, I think he's been really nasty to Chanelle at times.
jax70
28-07-2007, 09:31 PM
he messes with Chanelle's head alot, talks behind her back from Friday to Sunday then sorts things out with her before nominations and says what alot.
LovelyL
28-07-2007, 10:16 PM
Hes two faced and hes a people pleaser - just tellin everyone what they want to hear, and when Chanelle int around he (was) friendly to Charley then abuses her when Chanelles there
Ollie!
29-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Yeah I like him, he's basically a good guy who's suffered popularity wise from having a relationship with an imature girl in the house. One of my favourites along with Liam and Brian.
IMO it's hard not to come across as patronising to a girl who carries around a doll and throws hissy fits all the time. She's dead possessive as well something she admitted in her audition.
Trouble is, he got involved before he realised her true personality.
And it's impossible to split up with someone in the BB house.
It's a pity Chanelle wasn't 5 years older.
Just watching now, it looks like they've split again! Yikes! :bigsmile:
Arneldo
29-07-2007, 12:21 AM
Why? Because he is a dick. Next.
Princess
29-07-2007, 12:24 AM
Hes annoying and hes using Chanelle. I think Chanelle is near abouts falling in love with him which is why she puts up with all his ****. Poor girl.
Defoe8
29-07-2007, 12:35 AM
Right now as I type he's slagging off Chanelle to her face in his ****ed up English.
They guy speaks worse English than an illegal immigrant.
Just dump the fool Chanelle and concentrate on the prize money, let him go from woman to woamn, he isn't your problem any more.
He's not the only decent looking guy in Britain, there are better looking guys out there who will care for their loved one, not piss her about like Ziggy does.
As soon as she comes out she can go back to Uni, and have a relationship with a teenage guy who will have a hell of alot more in common with her.
Ollie!
29-07-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah well good luck to the man stuck with the uber bunny boiler that is Chanelle.
Originally posted by i.love.ziggy
why does'nt anyone like ziggy? i think he is a really nice bloke and he really likes chanelle... i dont know why everyone thinks he is using her. ZIGGY 2 WIN !!! :thumbs:
because 1 eye is going for the the shopping & the other is collecting the change http://www.globalhardstyle.com/forum/images/smiles/schater.gif
anyone else noticed this
moonwolf
29-07-2007, 01:16 AM
I don't think Ziggy's had the chance to be himself yet; he's had that whinging wee cat round his neck from about the third day he went in. He can't do anything (or talk to anybody) without yappy-gob wanting to know what's going on and what was said. She's suffocating him.
By far and away, Chanelle's the one manipulating Ziggy - not the other way round ..... and he's an idiot for letting her do it!
Ollie!
29-07-2007, 01:24 AM
He's not handled Chanelle well at all but I can't believe the crap he's getting from the public.
CassetteFinger
29-07-2007, 01:24 AM
Well he is a very strainge character like with the chanelle and charley thing he would be up charleys arsehole when chanelle wasent about when chanelle come along he will then go up chanelles arsehole and say like he dosent like her very twofaced and he dose messes with chanelles head he has broken up with her on national TV then 5 hours later saying im sorry and rubbing her head but then he goes on the diary room and say how she is two young and that its gone to far he needs to grow balls and just finish it woth chanelle cause oviously he dosent want to be with her like that.
spitfire
29-07-2007, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Ollie!
He's not handled Chanelle well at all but I can't believe the c**p he's getting from the public. I think he wants to split but dosnt want to appear the bad guy.If Chiggy never happened he would of had a good chance of winning it i think.
moonwolf
29-07-2007, 02:16 AM
Ziggy's trying to make friends in a normal way but Chanelle's so jealous/suspicious of everything he does and will start a row with him for no reason. He wasn't allowed to talk to Charley cos Chanelle hated here so much. It was like he was only really allowed to be her friend or she'd have a hissy fit - you only had to look at the way he sort of stayed away from Thaila so as not to start a row!
Poor guy can't win with that headcase. Hope she goes soon and he gets a chance to breathe!
iain_smith
29-07-2007, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by ~Roo~
hes a complete PRAT!!!
he has nothing to offer except um and arr about whther he shud be going out with chanelle - hes using her to stay in the game..
also he has no proper sense of fun - and is not genuine!
not only do I like Ziggy,I feel sorry for him.Im thinking of forming a squad to liberate him from that mad woman!
Sarah.
29-07-2007, 12:13 PM
I love Ziggy too!!:D heh
GlitterEyes
30-07-2007, 02:54 AM
I still like Ziggy I believe he has had the toughest time in the house dealing with being the only guy and big brother setting him up for a fall plus dealing with Chanelle he has had it hard. He gets alot of stick and some is warrented but most of it isn't in my opinion. He cannot win no matter what he seems to do and people are hugely hypocritical when they moan about Ziggy but fail to see others doing exactly the same thing.
bbrocks-x
30-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by i.love.ziggy
why does'nt anyone like ziggy? i think he is a really nice bloke and he really likes chanelle... i dont know why everyone thinks he is using her. ZIGGY 2 WIN !!! :thumbs:
i agree..why would he use her? she's not even that popular in the house! plus she is a stupid attention seeker
get her out!
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by bbrocks-x
Originally posted by i.love.ziggy
why does'nt anyone like ziggy? i think he is a really nice bloke and he really likes chanelle... i dont know why everyone thinks he is using her. ZIGGY 2 WIN !!! :thumbs:
i agree..why would he use her? she's not even that popular in the house! plus she is a stupid attention seeker
get her out!
She left thank God.
Even through his tough times, Ziggy has come out a true champion. I don't think he's going to win (he should) because there are so many crazy Chanelle fans out there, but he has done himself justice again and again and proved what a genuine person he really is.
Rocko
03-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
She left thank God.
Even through his tough times, Ziggy has come out a true champion. I don't think he's going to win (he should) because there are so many crazy Chanelle fans out there, but he has done himself justice again and again and proved what a genuine person he really is.
I can invision a movie right now...and the movie voice over guy going...
"Ziggy....
.... the galant hero...
....a true champion....
When everyone else is obviously wrong.....
there is Ziggy."
:sleep:
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:15 PM
that's funny :thumbs:
Wasted
03-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Ziggy is the cheesiest HM they've ever had, even if he wasn't such a devious bitch he'd still be annoying.
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Ziggy is the cheesiest HM they've ever had, even if he wasn't such a devious bitch he'd still be annoying.
...coming from someone who admits their fav housemate is Shabnam... :shrug:
Wasted
03-08-2007, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Ziggy is the cheesiest HM they've ever had, even if he wasn't such a devious bitch he'd still be annoying.
...coming from someone who admits their fav housemate is Shabnam... :shrug:
Yep. That's how annoying he is, that even a Shabnam fan thinks it. :bigsmile:
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:22 PM
why dont you state your reasons rather than just making statements
this should be good...
Wasted
03-08-2007, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
why dont you state your reasons rather than just making statements
this should be good...
As to why he's annoying apart from being a devious bitch? No problem. :bigsmile:
His little phrases like "very much so" and "it is what it is", annoy me A LOT.
He's very cheesy. He actually said "It's not you, it's me." *cringe*
He picked his feet and ate it once.
What he does with mummy Carole is near enough incest. *vomits* Did you see what they were doing on the Live Feed last night?
He thinks any woman who doesn't fancy him is a lesbian. So just because a woman isn't attracted to his leather face means she is a lesbian, according to Ziggy.
When he wears his dark, hooded top with no shirt underneath he looks a lot like ET.
He's really really smarmy.
He's very arrogant and sure of himself.
He always tries to act like the alpha-male by standing on top of tables or chairs and being authoritive. He wasn't even alpha=male when he was the only male in the House!
He's very patronizing and condescending.
He's just as bitchy as anyone else in there. When he bitches he'll say something like "I don't wanna bitch, but... *bitches*", and that's only one example of his hypocrisy.
He constantly breaks the rules by discussing the nominations.
He called all the girls sluts once.
He snorts a lot. He does this little grunt at the back of his nose. It's absolutely repulsive. *shudders*
He always tries to make out he's some sort of victim. In any situation.
Should I go on? :bigsmile: Or maybe you should tell me why he isn't so bad? Now that would be good *gets popcorn*
Rocko
03-08-2007, 12:46 PM
hallelujah!
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
why dont you state your reasons rather than just making statements
this should be good...
As to why he's annoying apart from being a devious bitch? No problem. :bigsmile:
His little phrases like "very much so" and "it is what it is", annoy me A LOT.
He's very cheesy. He actually said "It's not you, it's me." *cringe*
He picked his feet and ate it once.
What he does with mummy Carole is near enough incest. *vomits* Did you see what they were doing on the Live Feed last night?
He thinks any woman who doesn't fancy him is a lesbian. So just because a woman isn't attracted to his leather face means she is a lesbian, according to Ziggy.
When he wears his dark, hooded top with no shirt underneath he looks a lot like ET.
He's really really smarmy.
He's very arrogant and sure of himself.
He always tries to act like the alpha-male by standing on top of tables or chairs and being authoritive. He wasn't even alpha=male when he was the only male in the House!
He's very patronizing and condescending.
He's just as bitchy as anyone else in there. When he bitches he'll say something like "I don't want to bitch, but... *bitches*", and that's only one example of his hypocrisy.
He constantly breaks the rules by discussing the nominations.
He called all the girls sluts once.
He snorts a lot. He does this little grunt at the back of his nose. It's absolutely repulsive. *shudders*
He always tries to make out he's some sort of victim. In any situation.
Should I go on? :bigsmile: Or maybe you should tell me why he isn't so bad? Now that would be good *gets popcorn*
1. People have their own phrases they say a lot. Charley - "not being funny, just being honest", Tracey "'ave it, and deal with it". So whatever Ziggy says shouldnt just go against him.
2. You pick up one thing he has said in NINE WEEKS. I'm sure if you were in there for 9 weeks people would pick out cheesy phrases you say.
3. So do millions of people, I'm afraid.
4. He's just having FUN with someone he trusts. Nothing wrong with that, it's all in jest.
5. When has he ever said this?
6. He wears a hoody sometimes - big deal.
7. Your opinion, not fact.
8. Again, your opinion. There;s nothing wrong with being confident - that's what got everyone into the house in the first place!
9. It's part of the game, if you've ever seen any BB in the past. Alpha male status is very powerful - everyone wants to be that. It improves their chances to win.
10. Your opinion, again with no examples.
11. If everyone does it, why single him out as the only bad person for it??
12. No he hasn't. If he had he would have been punsihed, and he has never been punished.
13. That was a joke! You know, joke..haha. Nevermind.
14. So snoring is a capital offense now? Everyone does it to some degree. You're clutching at straws now.
15. That's because he usually is (hint hint Chanelle).
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. Please come up with a genuine argument nect time. Thanks.
PS. Sorry to make you crash and burn.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
why dont you state your reasons rather than just making statements
this should be good...
As to why he's annoying apart from being a devious bitch? No problem. :bigsmile:
His little phrases like "very much so" and "it is what it is", annoy me A LOT.
He's very cheesy. He actually said "It's not you, it's me." *cringe*
He picked his feet and ate it once.
What he does with mummy Carole is near enough incest. *vomits* Did you see what they were doing on the Live Feed last night?
He thinks any woman who doesn't fancy him is a lesbian. So just because a woman isn't attracted to his leather face means she is a lesbian, according to Ziggy.
When he wears his dark, hooded top with no shirt underneath he looks a lot like ET.
He's really really smarmy.
He's very arrogant and sure of himself.
He always tries to act like the alpha-male by standing on top of tables or chairs and being authoritive. He wasn't even alpha=male when he was the only male in the House!
He's very patronizing and condescending.
He's just as bitchy as anyone else in there. When he bitches he'll say something like "I don't want to bitch, but... *bitches*", and that's only one example of his hypocrisy.
He constantly breaks the rules by discussing the nominations.
He called all the girls sluts once.
He snorts a lot. He does this little grunt at the back of his nose. It's absolutely repulsive. *shudders*
He always tries to make out he's some sort of victim. In any situation.
Should I go on? :bigsmile: Or maybe you should tell me why he isn't so bad? Now that would be good *gets popcorn*
1. People have their own phrases they say a lot. Charley - "not being funny, just being honest", Tracey "'ave it, and deal with it". So whatever Ziggy says shouldnt just go against him.
2. You pick up one thing he has said in NINE WEEKS. I'm sure if you were in there for 9 weeks people would pick out cheesy phrases you say.
3. So do millions of people, I'm afraid.
4. He's just having FUN with someone he trusts. Nothing wrong with that, it's all in jest.
5. When has he ever said this?
6. He wears a hoody sometimes - big deal.
7. Your opinion, not fact.
8. Again, your opinion. There;s nothing wrong with being confident - that's what got everyone into the house in the first place!
9. It's part of the game, if you've ever seen any BB in the past. Alpha male status is very powerful - everyone wants to be that. It improves their chances to win.
10. Your opinion, again with no examples.
11. If everyone does it, why single him out as the only bad person for it??
12. No he hasn't. If he had he would have been punsihed, and he has never been punished.
13. That was a joke! You know, joke..haha. Nevermind.
14. So snoring is a capital offense now? Everyone does it to some degree. You're clutching at straws now.
15. That's because he usually is (hint hint Chanelle).
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. Please come up with a genuine argument nect time. Thanks.
PS. Sorry to make you crash and burn.
You keep saying "your opinion". DUH of course it's my opinion, and I stated it as such. My arguments were genuine, and you're still not telling me why he's not so bad so....
You're not making me crash and burn at all. We just disagree, and I've just happened to give more reasons and better reasons than you have. No big deal and no need for you to get worked up about it at all.
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 12:56 PM
I'm glad to have changed you mind on the Zigster. A dose of truth was all it took, it seems.
"He's a terrible, evil guy coz he wears a hoody sometimes" - lol, I mean, come on!
Rocko
03-08-2007, 12:57 PM
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Wasted
03-08-2007, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
I'm glad to have changed you mind on the Zigster. A dose of truth was all it took, it seems.
"He's a terrible, evil guy coz he wears a hoody sometimes" - lol, I mean, come on!
Do you even remember what you asked me to do? I said that even if he was a devious bitch, he'd be annoying, and you said give reasons why. So I gave reasons why he was annoying, not reasons why he is a bad person! We all have our quirks, and we are all annoyed by different things, and I just said some of the things about Ziggy that annoy me, I wasn't saying he was evil, or bad, or anything.
I love how you brought my age into it as well, as if that has anything to do with it or makes your opinion better than anyone else's, which it most certainly doesn't. If you can't argue your point in a constructive manner, don't make it personal. :rolleyes: I can't believe I'm telling someone who's probably older than me (I assume this because you brought my age into it) to be a bit more mature about arguing their case.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Again, you misread my post, they were reasons why he annoys me, doesn't mean he's a bad person at all. Surely to make someone "crash and burn" you'd have to at least read their post, then make a constructive argument without bringing personal matters into it, before you go against what was said in it? You have failed miserably to do any of that so far.
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Again, you misread my post, they were reasons why he annoys me, doesn't mean he's a bad person at all. Surely to make someone "crash and burn" you'd have to at least read their post, then make a constructive argument without bringing personal matters into it, before you go against what was said in it? You have failed miserably to do any of that so far.
Good luck in your life is things like snoring and hearing a hoody annoys you to the point of hating someone...reality will hit you one day, in a few years time, when you've had a chance to grow up.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Again, you misread my post, they were reasons why he annoys me, doesn't mean he's a bad person at all. Surely to make someone "crash and burn" you'd have to at least read their post, then make a constructive argument without bringing personal matters into it, before you go against what was said in it? You have failed miserably to do any of that so far.
Good luck in your life is things like snoring and hearing a hoody annoys you to the point of hating someone...reality will hit you one day, in a few years time, when you've had a chance to grow up.
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
Rocko
03-08-2007, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
BTW, I didn't even know there was a section here to show age. Where is that?
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Again, you misread my post, they were reasons why he annoys me, doesn't mean he's a bad person at all. Surely to make someone "crash and burn" you'd have to at least read their post, then make a constructive argument without bringing personal matters into it, before you go against what was said in it? You have failed miserably to do any of that so far.
Good luck in your life is things like snoring and hearing a hoody annoys you to the point of hating someone...reality will hit you one day, in a few years time, when you've had a chance to grow up.
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
I wrote a long post explaining why your reasons were wrong. I went down the "enjoyable debate" path and you just brushed it aside...which isn't at all mature. I looked at your age and now it makes sense why you cannot hold a constructive argument. It is my OPINION (you like people to have opinions, right), that in a few years time with the benefit of experience, you will realise your mistakes.
End of dicussion. I win.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Rocko
Originally posted by Wasted
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
BTW, I didn't even know there was a section here to show age. Where is that?
In your profile probably, I must have entered my age, otherwise I'm very worried that he knows it. But flattered, that he had to look at it and use it against me because he can't defend Ziggy properly.
Rocko
03-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
I looked at your age and now it makes sense why you cannot hold a constructive argument. It is my OPINION (you like people to have opinions, right), that in a few years time with the benefit of experience, you will realise your mistakes.
Hmmm...again with the importance of age somehow as a default giving 'wisdom'
You can't be much older right Son of Ziggy? I mean, Zig's only 26 [kidding]
Experience though, I agree with. More experience, perhaps = better ability to refute an opponents position. But that's open for anyone whether they're 16 or 61.
End of dicussion. I win.
Congratulations:dance2:
Wasted
03-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed in these "reasons". But then, I just saw your age so I don't expect you to understand. .
What does age have to do with the ''argument"?
Saying that snoring is a big reason why he's a bad person?
Again, you misread my post, they were reasons why he annoys me, doesn't mean he's a bad person at all. Surely to make someone "crash and burn" you'd have to at least read their post, then make a constructive argument without bringing personal matters into it, before you go against what was said in it? You have failed miserably to do any of that so far.
Good luck in your life is things like snoring and hearing a hoody annoys you to the point of hating someone...reality will hit you one day, in a few years time, when you've had a chance to grow up.
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
I wrote a long post explaining why your reasons were wrong. I went down the "enjoyable debate" path and you just brushed it aside...which isn't at all mature. I looked at your age and now it makes sense why you cannot hold a constructive argument. It is my OPINION (you like people to have opinions, right), that in a few years time with the benefit of experience, you will realise your mistakes.
End of dicussion. I win.
No, you wrote a long post explaining why you disagreed with my reasons, not that they were wrong. I stuck to facts, facts about Ziggy that annoy me, and you can't deny facts, so they weren't "wrong" at all. Not only do you deny facts so blindly, but you also make them up and you say that I "hate" Ziggy, when I have never said that I "hate" Ziggy.
I only brushed it aside because you brought my age into it. Your post lost it's credibility (because you did make good arguments before then) when you made it personal. I can hold a constructive argument because I haven't made it personal at all, so I have stuck to the rules of the forum, and I have kept the topic about Ziggy, whereas you are trying to make it about me, my age, and my future, which quite frankly is none of your business and is not related at all to how I argue my case.
And if someone's age was related to how they conduct themselves in a mature, mannered debate, then I'm pretty sure that I'm older than you are.
As for this winning thing. You keep throwing around the statement "I win", and I honestly think that you're just saying it for the sake of saying it, and that you believe that saying enough times will make everyone believe it. Won what, exactly? Oh, but I suppose you will excuse yourself from answering the question yet again (which we already know is that you have won nothing anyway) by saying I'm going off-topic when you were the first to stray away from the topic of Ziggy in this discussion.
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Rocko
Originally posted by Wasted
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
BTW, I didn't even know there was a section here to show age. Where is that?
In your profile probably, I must have entered my age, otherwise I'm very worried that he knows it. But flattered, that he had to look at it and use it against me because he can't defend Ziggy properly.
Such a short memory you have. Hint: look up
Rocko
03-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Such a short memory you have. Hint: look up
Look where? Sorry, I forgot.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Rocko
Originally posted by Wasted
Again, you continue to make yourself crash and burn by not actually reading my posts. You asked me to give reasons why he annoyed me, and I did. They're just small things yes, but they annoy me but it doesn't mean i "hate" him for it. I don't even "hate" him and I never said that.
I can't believe someone who is bringing personal matters into a discussion instead of making this an enjoyable debate is actually attacking my age as if they are so much more mature. :laugh:
You can't even defend Ziggy properly so you bring my age into and you criticise me. Lame.
BTW, I didn't even know there was a section here to show age. Where is that?
In your profile probably, I must have entered my age, otherwise I'm very worried that he knows it. But flattered, that he had to look at it and use it against me because he can't defend Ziggy properly.
Such a short memory you have. Hint: look up
You're the one who needs to look up, and read this;
Originally posted by Rocko
Hmmm...again with the importance of age somehow as a default giving 'wisdom'
You can't be much older right Son of Ziggy? I mean, Zig's only 26 [kidding]
Experience though, I agree with. More experience, perhaps = better ability to refute an opponents position. But that's open for anyone whether they're 16 or 61.
As for me, my memory's perfectly intact, but thanks for your concern. :)
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 02:11 PM
Well I guess if snoring is annoying to the point of not wanting to know anyone, you're going to be very lonely indeed...
Wasted
03-08-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Well I guess if snoring is annoying to the point of not wanting to know anyone, you're going to be very lonely indeed...
Again, you make up facts. I never said I didn't want to know Ziggy. And what I said wasn't snoring, it was snorting, and if I find that annoying, then it is, (as you always love to say when you can't argue against someone's point) just my opinion.
Rocko
03-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Well I guess if snoring is annoying to the point of not wanting to know anyone, you're going to be very lonely indeed...
Aye, some people have divorced for that and even less.
It all starts with the not sleeping in the same bed...and then not in the same room...
Snoring can be a dangerous thing if not treated correctly and promptly.
/sarc.
However, you are assuming that the person you are speaking to requires sleeping in close proximity with everyone they know?
Otherwise, why would a person be lonely if they just disliked someone who snores?
Snoring isn't the same as breathing, as as far as I'm aware, not everyone snores.
And...oh I see it's not even about snoring.
Son_Of_Ziggy
03-08-2007, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Well I guess if snoring is annoying to the point of not wanting to know anyone, you're going to be very lonely indeed...
Again, you make up facts. I never said I didn't want to know Ziggy. And what I said wasn't snoring, it was snorting, and if I find that annoying, then it is, (as you always love to say when you can't argue against someone's point) just my opinion.
Well, seeing as the title of this thread is:
"Why does'nt anyone like ziggy?"
I assumed you had stayed on topic. My mistake.
Wasted
03-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Wasted
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Well I guess if snoring is annoying to the point of not wanting to know anyone, you're going to be very lonely indeed...
Again, you make up facts. I never said I didn't want to know Ziggy. And what I said wasn't snoring, it was snorting, and if I find that annoying, then it is, (as you always love to say when you can't argue against someone's point) just my opinion.
Well, seeing as the title of this thread is:
"Why does'nt anyone like ziggy?"
I assumed you had stayed on topic. My mistake.
I have stayed on topic. I keep trying to bring this back to Ziggy, but you're posting a load of non-related crap. You're the one who keeps bringing up my age, and keeps on mis-quoting me and making up ridiculous things that I actually haven't said. Not to mention that your posts so far have missed two key factors to help yourself look somewhat mature in a debate;
a. Logic
b. Reasoning
You really should stop this now, unless you want all the posts you've made on this thread to provide a lot of others a few laughs at the utter off-topic trash you keep posting. It's boring now, and so predictable that I'm waiting for you to post that I'm on drugs or something and that you win the "dicussion", yet again. Whatever a dicussion is.
gowildcats
03-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Wasted
I have stayed on topic. I keep trying to bring this back to Ziggy, but you're posting a load of non-related c**p. You're the one who keeps bringing up my age, and keeps on mis-quoting me and making up ridiculous things that I actually haven't said. Not to mention that your posts so far have missed two key factors to help yourself look somewhat mature in a debate;
a. Logic
b. Reasoning
You really should stop this now, unless you want all the posts you've made on this thread to provide a lot of others a few laughs at the utter off-topic trash you keep posting. It's boring now, and so predictable that I'm waiting for you to post that I'm on drugs or something and that you win the "dicussion", yet again. Whatever a dicussion is.
Dont get rattled by this person, by the sounds of his arguments, he is probably much younger than you, and the fact that he brings it up proves his maturity, so carry on and dont bother!
Wasted
03-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by gowildcats
Originally posted by Wasted
I have stayed on topic. I keep trying to bring this back to Ziggy, but you're posting a load of non-related c**p. You're the one who keeps bringing up my age, and keeps on mis-quoting me and making up ridiculous things that I actually haven't said. Not to mention that your posts so far have missed two key factors to help yourself look somewhat mature in a debate;
a. Logic
b. Reasoning
You really should stop this now, unless you want all the posts you've made on this thread to provide a lot of others a few laughs at the utter off-topic trash you keep posting. It's boring now, and so predictable that I'm waiting for you to post that I'm on drugs or something and that you win the "dicussion", yet again. Whatever a dicussion is.
Dont get rattled by this person, by the sounds of his arguments, he is probably much younger than you, and the fact that he brings it up proves his maturity, so carry on and dont bother!
Thanks gowildcats, and you're right, there's no point in trying to have a mature debate with someone who refuses to show any maturity at all. His posts are getting boring and repetitive now, which is a shame, he was arguing his case so well to begin with.
Rocko
03-08-2007, 02:45 PM
From this thread: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=67848
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
Originally posted by Rocko
Originally posted by Son_Of_Ziggy
I win.
I'm not sure I can take anyone seriously who is adamant about the importance of maturity yet says, "I win"
Are you just pulling strings here to get people to 'argue'? If so, touché, some fantastic irony going on there.
Haha, at least someone gets it. Damn, I love getting reactions from utter dumb morons. You guys fell for it 100%. Love that. I thought my screen name would be a giveaway, but I had to push quite hard for someone to realise. I could have had you losers hopping and steaming all day long, but I'm getting bored with it.
Hahahaha, how stupid can you people be??
:cheer2: :xyxwave:
Right...I'm out. I'm like late already. Hate fridays, keep missing the evicitions:nono:
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