Helen on Loose Women

[James]

TALK SHOW: Loose Women
Channel: ITV
Date: Monday 21st July 2003
Time: 11:30 to 12:30

Topical talk show which looks at issues from a female perspective and meets celebrities and faces behind the headlines. The team of presenters includes Kaye Adams, Sherrie Hewson, Kerry McFadden, Claire Sweeney, Gloria Hunniford, Donna Air, Helen Adams and Terri Dwyer.


Also Digiguide has the same information for Loose Women on the 22nd - 24th.

[Maggie]

Thanks for the info James, this is great news :hello:

Seems her appearance on the show a few weeks ago has really paid off



Good luck Babe :hello: :love: :love: :hello:

[James]

A bit of extra info on the 25th:


Loose Women
Channel: ITV
Date: Friday 25th July 2003
Time: 11:30 to 12:30

Topical talk show which looks at issues from a female perspective and meets celebrities and faces behind the headlines. The team of presenters includes Kaye Adams, Sherrie Hewson, Kerry McFadden, Claire Sweeney, Gloria Hunniford, Donna Air, Helen Adams and Terri Dwyer. With special guests Dr Mark Hamilton and Federico from Big Brother.

[rachb]

This is great news :hello::hello:I'm so pleased somebody decided to put Helen back where she belongs:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[Romantic Old Bird]

Fantastic!!!!! XXXX:colour::colour::colour::colour::colour::colou r::colour::colour::colour::colour::hello::hello::h ello::hello::hello::hello::colour::colour::colour: :colour::colour::colour:

[BusyBee]

So is this the tv project she was hinting at.

Good on her - about time someone gave her something to sink her teeth into.

Means the videos will be active once again during the day. Cant wait.:thumbs:

[splodge0]

Originally posted by James
A bit of extra info on the 25th:


Loose Women
Channel: ITV
Date: Friday 25th July 2003
Time: 11:30 to 12:30

Topical talk show which looks at issues from a female perspective and meets celebrities and faces behind the headlines. The team of presenters includes Kaye Adams, Sherrie Hewson, Kerry McFadden, Claire Sweeney, Gloria Hunniford, Donna Air, Helen Adams and Terri Dwyer. With special guests Dr Mark Hamilton and Federico from Big Brother.


Has no-one noticed Fedrico's name??

An authority on women???? YUCK!!

They jest surely.............!!:laugh:

[BusyBee]

Please let Helen interview Fed - she will put him in his place :thumbs::joker::thumbs::thumbs:

[chilledbootz]

Oh how fantastic for H. She will be sooooo much better than Kerry 'big boobs' mcfadden. She was slagging off my David earlier on this week. Now now Kerry just because your husband thinks with his, you don't have to tar everybody with the same brush. i can't bear her!!!!!!!!!!! Go H:elephant::dance::hello:

[Romantic Old Bird]

Agree, Kerry 'chip shop' Mc Fadden: annoying and thick.

(Your husband will dump you as soon as he learns how to string a coherent sentance together...)

Helen is what this programme needs.

How has it taken them so long???????

Alison (who I liked on BB3) is starting to really annoy on RI:SE. So obvious she is there as Kate's mate.

Why not have Helen on LW? So much better..................She would be oodles better on This morning as well..........

[BigSister]

Thats great news for Helen :thumbs:

[BusyBee]

Its not that we are biased or anything, but I honestly think Helen could not a better job than the majority, if not all, of the ex BB housemates who are currently on the tele.

As for Ri:se - Kate is so wooden hopefully they will use an axe on her shortly. And as for the rest of the group they insist on bringing in every day, they are RUBBISH.

At least Helen has got a personality. Be interesting to see how they use her.

Go Helen Go - though she is going to be a bit of a busy bird what with tv and her salon. :hello::hello::hello::hello:

[James]

Helen is listed as one of the presenters for the following week as well.

You won't be happy to learn though that Kerry McFadden is too, though I have to say that when I saw her I thought she was alright when I saw her.

[bananarama]

This is a great opportunity for Helen to prove her capabilities. She has been out of practice for a year so I do hope she reins in slightly the temptation to shout above the others and perhaps talk a little to fast. She had those tendencies well under control on the Lorraine Kelly show. So.........

Good luck Helen........Go for it.....:colour::colour:

[cc100]

it could go well, but it could be a disaster

[Romantic Old Bird]

It's in next weeks Radio Times too.

The wording is:

With presenters kaye Adams, Gloria Honeyford, Kerry McFadden etc,

with help from Donna Air, Helen Adams and someone else.........

[Romantic Old Bird]

She's on NOW, she looks great, and we've already had a mention of::hello::hello::hello:

[Romantic Old Bird]

Well, there were actually at least two mentions by the end.

Helen was looking lovely, caught a few flies here and there as is her want, but was positively effervescent when matt Goss sat beside her and serenaded her with his new single - which is good incidentally. She got a kiss on the cheek as well.

She was obviously a major 'brossette' and we were treated to pics of 10 yr old Helen in her bedroom plastered with Bros posters, and dressed up in Bros mode with her brother Mark.

All in all, not a bad start Helen, but close the mouth between words!:laugh:

[bananarama]

Great to see her again on our TV's. There wasn't much reason for Helen to stop catching flies with such a mundane and boring topic about Geoge Best and his self induced problems. Little wonder Helen was catching flies I think i would have as well.:laugh::laugh:

[miss little glitzee]

catching flies???

what does that mean???

[bananarama]

The camera showed Helen several time with her mouth open wide looking bemused to say the least. Remember how she used to look in the house at times when feeling puzzled about something.

My mouth was gaping open at the thought of why oh why were they still talking about boring George best right up to the end of the show. There is much more interesting things going on in the world than the failed world of George boy.

Get a grip loose women get a grip......:laugh:

[miss little glitzee]

hi

do u mean like the pic in your avator?


also loose women is poor isnt it???

[bananarama]

do u mean like the pic in your avator?



:laugh: No. nothing like that. She is smiling showing her teeth there. Imagine opening your mouth to say Arrrrr for the doctor.:laugh:

[miss little glitzee]

ok thanks.

is loose women good or bad??

i cant make my mind up.

can u imagine a loose men show being sexist about birds???

never be commisioned

[bananarama]

I thought the first couple of series were good. As i remember they didn't let one subject hog the whole show and there was a lot more fun and humour which would suit Helen down to the ground.

The series before this I was not as impressed with as they are getting a tad to serious me thinks. Alison was on then and although she was ok whenever i bothered to watch I thought Alison was much quieter than normal and a bit out of place.

If they start dwelling on "Deep" thought provoking subjects then I think a fun loving person like Helen will get isolated from the conversations. To a certain extent she was today i thouight. I could here her little voice (Yes it was little today:laugh:) piping up but the others were so full of there personal wisdom regarding George Best and his partner that Helen was side lined to an extent.

Loose women need to remember the title of the show and loosen up a bit. Helen could give the entertainment value to what has become a watered down version of question time:laugh::laugh:

[BusyBee]

I think considering it was Helen's first day she did very well. It was all completely new for her and it showed. That flaming Claire Sweeney annoyed me pushing herself in so much. It must have been difficult for Helen thrown in with 'experienced' presenters.

Loved how she stuck up for Paul regarding who is the hottest in BB.

Give her a couple of programmes and I think we will see Helen coming out of herself. They need to let her feel her way. She will get there. Good on you Helen lovely to see you back.

[bananarama]

Yes. helen adapted to the Lorraine show very quickly. It wasn't just clair sweeny they all played a part in not helping Helen to cue herself in and be heard as much as she could have been. But as you say it's her first day. She seemed reasonably relaxed as ever. Helen is trying to drop the "I like blinking saying" She said last time that was her only regret. So what do they do, they introduce her as the girl who likes blinking.
:spin2:

[Romantic Old Bird]

I thought the susbject was a bit heavy myself, and Gloria Hunniford gave Helen a poison glance whenever she did manage to get her 5 pennorth in.

Anyway, I thought it was an idea to send in my appreciation of her appearance, and express the hope that she'll be on all the time in future!

If anyone else wants to, the email address is:

loosewomen@itv.com

[BusyBee]

Sounds a good idea ROB think I shall be composing an appropriate complimentary text. She needs encouragement and who else should it come from but us lot her loyal supporters
:thumbs::thumbs:

[rachb]

I sent one already:blush::blush: I hope everyone else is doing one :blush::blush:
or am I just sad?:bawling::bawling:

[James]

I was annoyed at the judgemental comments made by callers-in to the show and people interviewed on the streets about George Best's OH supporting him.

Alcoholism is a disease and if it was any other type of illness that George Best was suffering from, she would be getting credit not criticism.

[Romantic Old Bird]

I agree James. The whole thing was handled badly really. Alex Best obviously adores George, who despite being a nightmare is I suspect an absolutley lovely man. Unlike that other famous drink damaged footballer with a plethora of talent, he is witty and intelligent. I have also never heard of him being violent, which is a very common picture with alcoholics.

George fell into superstardom at a time when association footballers were admired, but not previously feted by hordes of female fans, or rewarded with wads of money.


He was a simple lad who just couldn't handle it when faced with an alladin's cave of women, high life and money.

I think it's great that she has stood so devotedly by him. I am sure it's terribly destructive, and certainly understand the bitterness of those who are still awaiting transplants. But it is a disease, and George still has the same head on his shoulders, and the same fundamental insecurities and demons that made him vulnerable in the first place.

They also made him one of the most inspirational and gifted players of all time. I will never forget seeing his balletic and seemingly effortless skill on the pitch.

This was long before Alex Best's time. Though she may have been initially interested in the legend of George Best, she married the man: frail, vulnerable, prematurely aged and ill. He was all of those things, but he was also mercurial, and boyish with a glint of that sparkle of genius still patently obvious in his eyes.

I hope George can get through this, and finally defeat the demons that have plagued his life. Good luck to both of them.

[miss little glitzee]

not on today

[bananarama]

E-mail to loose women done and dusted.:spin2:

[bananarama]

E-mail has bounced back as a failed e-mail. Anyone else had this problem:conf:

[Romantic Old Bird]

No, wonder why?

[BusyBee]

Mine went through OK. Hope she had loads.

Think they will be rotating presenters if you know what I mean. Be nice if she is on regular days so we can set the videos properly.

[bananarama]

The technical jargon that came back with the e-mail is beyond my understanding of e-mail world. It say's it is a"permanent error" and an automated response from the system.

I put Helen Adams as the subject line. perhaps they are automatically screening out e-mails to avoid abuse e-mails etc to individuals.

It was a simple message thanking them for having Helen back on tv and how good it was to see her again. Not that they ever got to read it if the auto system did't accept it for some strange reason.

I have one regular e-mail from a forum and it always gets redirected into the junk mail on my hotmail account and it is not junk mail. so these systems are not fool proof it appears.

[Romantic Old Bird]

Argh, forgot today. Was she on?

[bananarama]

Fraid not...:bawling: Friday i think..

[BusyBee]

Got to be Friday cos that's when they are having Alex and Fed on. Now Helen sorting those two out will be worth watching.

[bananarama]

Well. Helen certainly gave loose women a shot in the arm today. Helen adams full throttle. She was great.....

She took a couple of knocks first from that crabby woman whose name I can never remember. Helen was complimenting her saying she was not that old and was rewarded by being told to "shut it"

Later alex from BB3 insulted her by telling her she was mad. Well Helen was full throttle shouting in Alex's left ear.:laugh::laugh: So he was a bit miffed by that. Serve him right:laugh:

Helen took it all in her stride and put loose women back on the map as far as I am concerned. I think I heard her say that Paul wears ear plugs around the house:laugh::colour:

Oh waht a BB we would have had if Helen and Alex were in the same BB house. One of them would have walked I think. Probably Alex.:colour:

[Amy]

Oh no i missed the show :bawling:

[Maggie]

That's for that report bananarama, I missed it, was Fed on it as well and how did it go with him ? :spin2: :spin2:

[bananarama]

Yes. fed was on and he and Helen seemd to click ok. Helen confidently went into interviewing mode with Fed. She may not have a university education but she seems to be a natuaral at interviewing. When not damaging there ear drums she makes anyone feel at ease and talkative.:laugh:

When I saw her on the monday show I was a bit worried about her nose being pushed out. Well today she was having none of that. She wasn't rude or anything just miles more confident and just being herself. Helen Adams. Which is a lesson to all BB contestants past,present and future.:colour:

[Maggie]

Thanks again for that, I knew she could do it, you have to push in on that show or you'd never get a word in, she's a fast learner, :hello: :love: :hello: all the best Helen, you'll do great :thumbs:

[bananarama]

I don't know if it was my imigination but Alex seemed to be a bit "rude" to Helen from the start. He spent most of the time with his back turned against Helen and Mrs crab woman and talked instead to that "Kerry" girl is it. Sorry I am terrible with names and I can't be bothered to look them up.:laugh:

Helen did speak to him eventually and he faced her "if be it briefly". I am probably beeing paranoid......or something...

This apparent snub was before Helen went into full vocal. Seems he didn't really want to speak to her. As I say it might have been my imagination. Anyone else who saw the show I would like to know what you think about that...:spin2:

[rachb]

I watched this today and taped it:blush:
I think Helen was much more confident today I think the fact that she was interested in the topics today made her feel better about giving her opinion.
I thought Alex was very rude all the way through pulling faces at Helen each time she said anything then having the nerve to call her loud:nono:
She did put him in his place though when someone suggested that her and Alex would make a good couple saying No I'll stick to Mr Clarke :love:as we would expect:love: and saying that they were a good couple.
A few Paul mentions today she just can't help it bhlcs:love:
interesting that since coming out of the house she likes cleaning and tells Paul off for not putting things back in the right place:thumbs:good for you Helen:thumbs:
I think after them all telling her she was too loud she will be even better next time I hope she doesn't change she'll add lots of fun :spin2:

[BusyBee]

Today's Loose Women just showed how much we have missed with Helen not being on our screens.

She was completely her bubbly, loud, foot in the mouth self.

I quite agree Alex was sooo rude to her (never did like him anyway). She seemed to get on well with Fed though.

Can anyone remember how she told Paul off in the house cos he never put the top back on the sugar and never put the milk back. Sounds like times dont change.

She gave as good as she got today - great. And here's to more insights into the Clarke/Adams household. :blush::blush::hugesmile::love:

[chilledbootz]

Oh dear i'm not going to be very popular and I can't believe i'm saying this, but I think it's time for Helen to go back to hairdressing now!!!!!!

Just hear me out. I taped the show today and i felt really embarassed for her. Every one of the panel and the guests were very obviously cringing every time she said something. She doesn't think about her answers and just blurts them out. She even mad Kerry 'big boobs' Mcfadden look half way intelligent!!!. This doesn't feel right saying this at all but I think this time Helen is completely out of her depth and it could only get worse. I hope not though!!!:devil:


SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!:devil:

[Romantic Old Bird]

Mmdifferences in opinion here. I'll see it later or tomorrow and see what I think.

She is very inexperienced really, certainly at this sort of thing. However she was chosen and got the job. They must have liked what they saw. I thought Gloria Hunneyford was overwhelming the other day, too fond of her own voice.

I agree that I felt a bit uncomfortable at times watching the Monday programme. Let's hope she finds her feet quickly and socks it to them. I cannot stand kerry Mc Fadden, however I know this dates to her getting a job reporting on the old Channel 5 programme Exclusive, when Mr Clarke didn't!:laugh:

If it doesn't work out, she can still get her salon going for a year or so and get on with having a family.

[kaphc]

I think part of the problem is that Loose Women is a lunchtime opinion based show talking about topical issues.

Helen has some great opinions but isn't very good at explaining why she thinks certain things. Yesterday, they were talking about a prostitute and Helen said "Being paid money for sex, that's wrong!" but couldn't back it up with an argument as to why she thought this.

When she is chatting and interviewing she is playing to her strengths and comes across as bubbly and amusing!
:hello::hello:

[rachb]

Although I love to see Helen on tv I do see your point chilledbootz,at times she was a bit excited but I'm sure this is because she didn't make much of an impact the first time she was on.
I remember her being quite awkward at first on Lorraine so given time I'm sure she will get the balance right:thumbs:
I still thought that Alex was horrible to her though she looked quite hurt and it wasn't up to him to say something like that,I notice Kerry Mcfadden has calmed down since shes been on she at times has nearly lost it on that show so I'm sure Helen will settle into it:thumbs:
I think she should be proud of herself she did well:hello::hello::hello:

[bananarama]

chilledbootz

I believe you are very mistaken in thinking Helen shoud be off out TV screens.

Helen was herself. That's the whole point of loose women. Frank talk and people who are not afraid of talking and behaving in a controversial way. The natural way that Helen was.

Our TV screens needs more of this not less. It seems Helen can't do right from wrong. If she is loud some one doesn't like it. If she is quiet some one will say she hasn't the ability.

Just look at the behavour of other loose women. They too make fools of themselves and yes some are even loud.

What do you want loose women to be!!! Another flat lining type BB4......No thank you..Go Helen Go show them all.....

[chilledbootz]

Bananarama I take your point, but from my point of view I found the whole show incredibly uncomfortable. It made me physically cringe for an hour!! Believe me I don't want to feel this way about one of H's tv projects but i'm afraid I do. If you are enjoying it then great but i'm just offering an opinion. And unlike Helen i've thought very hard about it!!

[Romantic Old Bird]

Well, at last I have seen the programme in question. I went into it with low expectations and I have to say I thought Helen was EXACTLY herself. As I said earlier, they knew exactly what they were taking on beforehand: a brash, loud, effervescent and immensely likeable girl.

That's what she is and how she appears to be. I thought she was fine. OH thought she was fine, and he is pretty critical at the best of times. He actually enjoyed the programme against his will because he loves discussions.

I also thought Alex was just Alex with her, and I didn't detect any animosity. The po faced woman next to Helen was the only one who I thought gave her a bit of a look, mostly because she likes to hear her own voice I think.

This time helen was actually able to speak, unlike when Gloria (is this what I am now reduced to?) Honeyford sat next to her.

Kerry Chipshop has more experience in these situations, and is one of the established regulars, as all of the others were. Helen held her own.

We can't expect Helen to come out and be Joan Bakewell. She may have held views which were diverse from the others, but that is what a discussion is all about. Helen has the ability to voice exactly what she thinks, unfettered by constraints such as 'is this the politically correct thing to say now?'

I really hope everyone is able to give her a chance. I am sure they hold mauritoriums after each session, and if they didn't like something about Helen, she will find out. She can learn from the experience. She struck me as being as she was first week in the house: compensating for insecurity by being really loud. She then settled down and relaxed and we grew to love her.

There is a smugness about Kerry which is uncomfortable. She has effortless profile now, being half of a famous couple, and she has the confidence which motherhood brings.

People may criticise Helen for having no particular talent, but Atomic Kitten have gone from strength to strength without Kerry, her husband Bryan has already strayed, and I don't see much of a future for him as a solo artist when Westlife ultimately stop.

Helen, on the other hand has still managed to get a place on this programme with a significant learning disorder, no hit singles under her belt, and a partner who actively shuns the limelight. She isn't at all 'showbiz', she lives in a very nice but unspectacular flat in green and leafy suburbia (and YES, I actually found it yesterday on my way home! They were out :bawling:), she has her feet firmly on the ground and is establishing herself with her own business.

If 'Losse Women' doesn't work out, she will shrug her shoulders and say OK, and she will have someone to go home to who will always think she is a star.

I don't think any of that is a reason to despair.

Plus the fact I actually enjoyed the programme! They could do a lot worse than to let her develop in this. It is far better experience than holding up a few bottles of cream and having a facial.

Good luck Helen!:thumbs:

[bananarama]

ROB. Iam so relieved that you still back Helen. I could see nothing significantly wrong with her performance. Those that look in a none partial way will find something wrong with any one of the loose women presenters.

So why should Helen be the one picked out as being the one to run away and hang up her media clothes and flee immediately back to cutting hair.

She can do both as the case arises. After all she will be an employer this time and not someones servant.

Most presenters have a relatively short shelf life. So I think Helen fans should all enjoy the naturalness of Helen while we still can. Savour it and enjoy. No need for some to cringe as there was just nothing to cringe about. Enjoy her for goodness sake:devil::devil:

[chilledbootz]

Well I was cringeing!!! I want her to succeed, I really do but on this evidence I just think people are laughing at her. I even read a review in the Mail today which confirmed my worse fears. I will post it later for those who are interested.

Still no problem in having different views. It's what makes the world tick:elephant::dance:

[Romantic Old Bird]

I would be interested to read the review chilled. Not a fan of the Mail, but some of their columnists are OK.

[cc100]

i agree with bananarama and rob.


the others on the show are hardly freudian in their wit and intelligence are they??

if you cringe, then dont watch it.

they wouldnt have offered her a role on there if they didnt think she could do it. im sure they tried her out in soime kind of practice show.

[bananarama]

Well put cc100. I too would be interested in reading what the paper had to say out of curiosity only.

My oppinion of any newspapers is so low that i have not purchased them for more than a decade. With the exception of when Helen was on BB and was hoping for some info on her and Paul. You know what trash they finished up printing. That is the reason I don't subscribe to any of them.

Reviewers and editors alike dedicate their lives to making an income by trashing someone or other in order to justify there own existence and the pay cheque at the end of the month compliments of newspaper readers.

I won't be biased simply because it is Helen being discused but because as you see I loath the British press and there character assassinating mandate they are usually hell bent on using to sell the rubbish they print. :devil::devil:

[BusyBee]

Come on everyone. This is the first time Helen has been given the opportunity to do anything like a presenting job. On Lorraine she was talking about things she knew lots about. Now she is having to give her opinions on topical items.

She's bound to take a while to settle down and I am sure they were aware of what they were going to get when they signed her up. Helen is never going to be a quiet, intellectual, boring person. She will state her mind probably without thinking. And I think the loudness will tone down shortly. She just needs to find her feet.

Personally she is the only one on the programme who says what she really means. Give the girl a chance. I look forward to her next appearance.