Brian the first black winner of Big Brother ever.

[Amy21]

So Brian is the first ever black winner of Big Brother. I guess this was bound to happen sooner or later as we have had the gay, winner, the girl winner, the transexual winner, the tourette winner. Whatever will it be next the disabled winner???. Anyone see a pattern here???. Its all about the sympathey vote. The twins were robbed of winning and should of won!!!!!!!. I am so sad :bawling: and angry :mad:.

[mozzymozmoz]

a girl winner LMAO = yer they are normal people...i think it isnt symathy vote and it is...because they are like that people grow to love them

[cepb]

Why should the fact that he's black even come into it?

[supernoodles!]

no its not about the sympathy vote,ya know what if it had been the twins people could say oh,what a surprise twins as winners.How could Brian get the sympathy vote anyway on the basis he was black?

[the_stillness]

I hate the outcome and the Twins should have won and this sympathy thing just gets worse - year by year. The last time was for Shilpa - Everyone feeling sorry for her and also coming from another country. I agree with Pete and his problem, it just goes on & on & on. It looks like a fix to me, but it can never be proven and that's the trouble

[h87]

I hate the boy (he's not a man is he lol), but I don't think his colour has anything to do with it. Very sad that he has conned enough people into feeling sory for him being an idiot, to land the 100k

[Amy21]

This whole thing is for the sympathey vote and is a fix!!!!!!!!. Why cant you all see this???. The twins SHOULD of won tonight no one else they were robbed!!!!!!! :mad:.

[CassetteFinger]

Wish Makosi was the first black winner.

[Chilltown]

You guys are so dumb. A sympathy vote for being female? A sympathy vote for being black? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!??! Uneducated, *******.


Brian was voted the winner because he wasn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree and yet was entertaining and funny. Not because he was black you dummy.

[Chilltown]

Originally posted by Amy21
This whole thing is for the sympathey vote and is a fix!!!!!!!!. Why cant you all see this???. The twins SHOULD of won tonight no one else they were robbed!!!!!!! :mad:.

Yes the Twins should have won because they're your favorite. Stop being such a sore loser, it's a game, get over it. :rolleyes:

[Mrluvaluva]

Can I ask a question? Why do u think Brian got the "sympathy" vote?

[cepb]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Can I ask a question? Why do u think Brian got the "sympathy" vote?
He didn't get the sympathy vote, he got the thick, numb-skull vote.

[andybigbro]

Twins? That would have been up there aswell as Transexual and Gay as its differnet

SO Amy they werent Robbed :rolleyes: Just Brian WON :tongue:

[robdarby]

Originally posted by Amy21
So Brian is the first ever black winner of Big Brother. I guess this was bound to happen sooner or later as we have had the gay, winner, the girl winner, the transexual winner, the tourette winner. Whatever will it be next the disabled winner???. Anyone see a pattern here???. Its all about the sympathey vote. The twins were robbed of winning and should of won!!!!!!!. I am so sad :bawling: and angry :mad:.

tourettes is a disability,moron.

[Jackie]

HE WON BECAUSE HE DESERVES TO WIN.

[the_chosen_one]

Given what happened last January, it was inevitable, really.

Channel 4 always get their way.

[Shaun]

He won because he provided more entertainment than the twins, and he had more fans. Don't try and drag up the race row, for God's sake.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Chilltown
You guys are so dumb. A sympathy vote for being female? A sympathy vote for being black? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!??! Uneducated, *******.


Brian was voted the winner because he wasn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree and yet was entertaining and funny. Not because he was black you dummy.

I agree with you 100%,some members are sooooooo bitter,i wanted ziggy to win but hey it diddnt happen,i knew it wouldnt but im pleased for brian and i would have been pleased for the twins if they`d won too.They`ve all been fab housemates and the fact some of you are saying he`s won becuase hes black and hes got the sympathy vote is so racist,but at the same time its pathetic that you actually think that.Its got nothing to do with the colour of his skin,people just like him.

Get over it

[tinkerbell]

Thats another reason the producers fixed for him to win, because if he didnt win peeople wil start the racist bolocks.

[supernoodles!]

this is stupid if the twins had won everyone would still be saying it was a fix,like they have been all week until it was announced brian had one and they they all turned round and went yeah it was a fix becuase of the race row on cbb

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Jay]

Originally posted by Amy21
This whole thing is for the sympathey vote and is a fix!!!!!!!!. Why cant you all see this???. The twins SHOULD of won tonight no one else they were robbed!!!!!!! :mad:.

Didn't see you moan when the twins become one, for me that was the biggest fix of all and im glad they didn't win to be honest, compared to Brian entertainment wise they never come close.

[h87]

I think channel 4 probably have helped Brian along, what better way for the series after the race row to end than to have a black winner?

Don't tell me it didnt go through any of their minds lol

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Amy21
This whole thing is for the sympathey vote and is a fix!!!!!!!!. Why cant you all see this???. The twins SHOULD of won tonight no one else they were robbed!!!!!!! :mad:.

It wasn't a fix. BB didnt get what they want and I'm so happy. Brian won with a huge majority of the vote - End of.

[tinkerbell]

Originally posted by h87
I think channel 4 probably have helped Brian along, what better way for the series after the race row to end than to have a black winner?

Don't tell me it didnt go through any of their minds lol

Hmmmmmm very good point actually!! After last years CBB aswel...

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Amy21
This whole thing is for the sympathey vote and is a fix!!!!!!!!. Why cant you all see this???. The twins SHOULD of won tonight no one else they were robbed!!!!!!! :mad:.

It wasn't a fix. BB didnt get what they want and I'm so happy. Brian won with a huge majority of the vote - End of.
Agreed:thumbs:

[supernoodles!]

Go Brian,im sooooo happy,id be just as happy if the twins won though:hug:
still gutted ziggy diddnt come third though

[Mike]

I don't see how people who were supporting the twins can say it was fix especially after the advantage they had with being counted as one housemate. Brian won fair & square at the end of day whether people like it or not.

[Psychonaut]

I can't believe how racist your initial post was. Sympathy vote for a black man? Feck off, Brian did NOT win because he was black. Have some respect for the man.

[tinkerbell]

If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.

[cepb]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.
You have to be very careful these days you know. :wink:
Ridiculous, isn't it?

[KKBL]

Brian wone because 60.3% of the public wanted him to win more then the twins.full stop end off

[Jay]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.

Really no one called anyone racist when science or victor didn't win did they? some people are talking out the wrong hole i think.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.

What an idiotic thing to say. If he didnt win it just would have meant that BB's fix would have a success, but he did, and I'm so happy.

[the_chosen_one]

Regardless of Channel 4's hypocrisy and planning, preparation and fixing of their show....

....Brian deserved to win

[Psychonaut]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.

So the fact that none of the other black contestants didn't win passed you by?

[MarkWaldorf]

I don't get what you mean "sympathy vote"? :conf: Are you saying he got a 'sympathy vote' because he's black? :conf: Even if he did, what's his colour got to do with it? He won fair and square, if you have a problem with that, tell the 60% that voted him. It's Brian's night, leave it as that. Not everyone gets their way.

[Psychonaut]

Originally posted by cepb
Originally posted by tinkerbell
If he didnt win people will start calling it racist.
You have to be very careful these days you know. :wink:
Ridiculous, isn't it?

Did you even watch the other Big Brothers?

Brian won because he feckin deserved it, that's it. The man rocks! :flower:

[the_chosen_one]

I think Amy21 is referring to the "minority" when she says "sympathy", rather than being offensive to black people inparticular.

[Psychonaut]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Given what happened last January, it was inevitable, really.

Channel 4 always get their way.

Posting with the cap's lock key on isn't allowed - post removed - Red

[the_chosen_one]

Get over what?

I wanted Brian to win, Einstein.

[PleasurePrinciple]

wtf do you know how ignorant your thread is, acting like being black is a disability or a difference to others... no wonder it took so long for a black person to win if all viewers are like you

[Psychonaut]

Look, love, when you say shIte like "I wanted Brian to win Einstein!" then why say C4 got what they wanted from the racism row?


Given what happened last January, it was inevitable, really.

Channel 4 always get their way.



Ey?

[the_chosen_one]

Why ask for an explanation? It's as easy as a, b, c.

a) Channel 4 have Goody cause the race row = ratings/publicity

b) Channel 4 use Emily Parr to get the heat off their back.

c) Channel 4 put in Brian to win the show (a deserving winner, too).

Where does it get hard to understand? Channel 4 control the show, you know.

[Psychonaut]

a) Channel 4 have Goody cause the race row = ratings/publicity


WTF?

How is she a minority? Apart from he fact she's pat 'n' Mick?

[the_chosen_one]

Eh?

I think you're getting yourself a bit mixed up now, for no reason.

[Psychonaut]

You're the one who said this was down to the racism row.

[the_chosen_one]

Yeah, so?

I didn't say Jade's a minority. If you're going to fudge the issue, there's no point us discussing it. Show some clearer understanding and we can carry on.

[Psychonaut]

You said Channel 4 got their way, implying that Bri was not a pure winner. What was your point? (Who should have won?)

You reckon Brian only won due to the racism row. My point; that you think that's the only reason he won. If not, why not say in your initial post to this thread?

[the_chosen_one]

Brian was a good winner.

BUT

Channel 4 put in whoever they want to. If they want a transexual to win, they put in Nadia (BB 5) and no competition. If they want a tourette's sufferer to win, they put in Pete (BB 7), and no competition...

You get the idea? Big Brother isn't really a contest, you know.

I suppose you could argue that the producers made it interesting by putting the twins together at the last minute, and that'd be a perfectly reasonable argument, but it didn't make much difference to the big picture. Brian still smashed them in the vote.

[Jack]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Brian was a good winner.

BUT

Channel 4 put in whoever they want to. If they want a transexual to win, they put in Nadia (BB 5) and no competition. If they want a tourette's sufferer to win, they put in Pete (BB 7), and no competition...

You get the idea? Big Brother isn't really a contest, you know.

I suppose you could argue that the producers made it interesting by putting the twins together at the last minute, and that'd be a perfectly reasonable argument, but it didn't make much difference to the big picture.

I'm sorry but your not making sense. Channel 4 didn't put Nadia in because they wanted a transexual to win. That's a silly thing to say. Nadia was an entertaining housemate who was funny and stood up to the bullies in the house. There is no motive for channel 4 to want a transexual to win. What would it achieve for their personal gain? A little novelty factor?

So you're saying Brian won because Channel 4 wanted a black winner? Brian won because the public wanted an entertaining, funny and genuine housemate to win Big Brother, which he was.

[Psychonaut]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Brian was a good winner.

BUT

Channel 4 put in whoever they want to. If they want a transexual to win, they put in Nadia (BB 5) and no competition. If they want a tourette's sufferer to win, they put in Pete (BB 7), and no competition...

You get the idea? Big Brother isn't really a contest, you know.

I suppose you could argue that the producers made it interesting by putting the twins together at the last minute, and that'd be a perfectly reasonable argument, but it didn't make much difference to the big picture. Brian still smashed them in the vote.

Dude, check your first post in this thread. YOU reckon you wanted Bri to win yet you called him on the race vote. This is why we think you're being unreasonable.

Me personally being one of those who'd get your sympathy vote.

[the_chosen_one]

Jack, I thought Nadia was a rubbish winner, but even so, look at the competition. I couldn't really pick a better winner for BB 5.

I don't expect everone to agree with the theory, it's just my opinion.

[the_chosen_one]

Me personally being one of those who'd get your sympathy vote.

I never mentioned the "sympathy" vote. I think that was a mistake in the opening post, if anything.

My first post referred to the thread title.

[Jack]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Jack, I thought Nadia was a rubbish winner, but even so, look at the competition. I couldn't really pick a better winner for BB 5.

I don't expect everone to agree with the theory, it's just my opinion.

At the start of BB5, Nadia was a rank outsider. But your not really answering my question. Who you wanted to win is not the issue. It's the fact you said Channel 4 put her in with the intentions that she'd win. Why would they do that?

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Jack, I thought Nadia was a rubbish winner, but even so, look at the competition. I couldn't really pick a better winner for BB 5.

I don't expect everone to agree with the theory, it's just my opinion.

At the start of BB5, Nadia was a rank outsider. But your not really answering my question. Who you wanted to win is not the issue. It's the fact you said Channel 4 put her in with the intentions that she'd win. Why would they do that?

It's a great story. It's all about the underdog. It's about accepting someone who's drastically different than everybody else.

Nadia was treated like a Queen in that house. Look at the way she was given cigarettes everytime she screamed for them. Look at the other people put in the house to act as her "lipgloss bitches". Look at the bodybuilding, vain ponce (Jason) put in for "her" to clash with. It was tailored for her to win.

[Psychonaut]

Dude, n this thread, you said channel 4 got their winner after the Shilpa ****. YOU reckon Shilpa won because she's Indian. Simple as. She won because we love her, accept it! Same as Brian!

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Psychonaut
Dude, n this thread, you said channel 4 got their winner after the Shilpa ****. YOU reckon Shilpa won because she's Indian. Simple as. She won because we love her, accept it! Same as Brian!

Well you make up your own **** and put words in my mouth if you want, but that's why I told you if you're going to try and fudge the issue and show you can't understand the conversation, we can't discuss it.

[Psychonaut]

If you'd said you voted Brian first, I'd have believed you. The fact you played the racism card for him winning makes me wonder. Accept it.

Brian rocked, i don't believe his race had FA to do with it.

[Red Moon]

Cut the personal remarks and talk about the subject of the thread. Please check back before you put things in people's mouths.

Red

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Psychonaut
i don't believe his race had FA to do with it.

Me niether, his personality won it.

...but his race had something to do with him being chosen for the role in the show in the first place.

[Psychonaut]

Red moon; stay out of it. We WE'[RE arguing with each other?

Fair enough the chosen one;

I felt your initial post was going for the race card which I think was unfair. But if you really mean that;

Peace and unity! :hug:

---

But your comments about his race I cannot accept. I don't believe if I'm ever a BB contestant it will be for my race, I have every trust in BB/chanel4.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Psychonaut
But your comments about his race I cannot accept. I don't believe if I'm ever a BB contestant it will be for my race, I have every trust in BB/chanel4.

I don't think race is generally an issue for BB, but this series, after CBB5, race was definitely an issue.

Hopefully we can get back to normal from now on.

[Captain.Remy]

I'm really sad it happened only because he was black. I mean after what happened in CBB5 they needed a black person to win, so well done Brian but you don't deserve it. Like Pete, the producers wanted to give a message and fixed the game for the finale.

[xXxCharlottexXx]

He's the first newcomer too!

[Nicola]

Yeah I was on about the "first newcomer " thing as well last night, I mentioned that at one time it was impossible for a latecomer to even get in the final, let alone win Big Brother over someone who had been in from Day 1.

I think it was Brian's personality and popularity with the fans that allowed him to emerge the eventual winner, race never came into it and Brian was treated exactly the same as the other housemates by both the public and everyone who was in there with him. I'm sure a black person in the house getting this much respect has proved the critics wrong over the CBB5 racism row, any backlash following that or Emily's removal from the house would certainly be unfounded now.