Has anyone seen this?

[nicola001]

Investigation underway after MILLIONS put on BRIAN to win, minutes from final.

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Copied from C4 forums.


An investigation is underway by premium phone regulator ICSTIS and the UK Gambling Commission after almost £1,000,000 was put on Big Brother finalist Brian Belo to win, despite odds as high as 6/1.

In the 20 minutes since the beginning of the second Channel 4 show thousands of pounds backing Brian to take the Big Brother
eight crown, including one bet of almost £48,000, resulted in odds being forced as low as 5/6 by online bookmaker, Paddy Power.

Sam and Amanda Merchant were favourites with odds as short as 1/9

Internet forums have been bombarded by posts from disgruntled fans of the show claiming the bookmakers fixed the result with thousands of calls for Brian to make up for previous losses throughout the series.

Earlier this week Ladbrokes spokesman Nick Weinberg talked about how a twins win would cause havoc for the industry: “we stand to take a hammering.”

He continued: “We’re bracing ourselves for the darkest day in reality TV history. If the twins win it’ll be the worst result since BB began.”

The bookie added that the series had been a disaster for bookies, as punters had come up trumps against them at almost every single eviction night due to predictable votes.

Mr Weinberg said: “It has been a three-month tale of woe for bookies.”

[Flavaflav]

looks like this aint over yet

[Stu]

Looks like someone down in elstree leaked how the voting was going.

[Jackie]

Another fixing scam.:devil::devil::devil:

[XxShortyxX]

So are they saying it was a fix?

See something ent right about this. The Twins had been bookies fav to win for weeks now, topping all the polls around the net, I just don't get it.

If, and this if, it is a fix I feel sorry for Brian and the Twins.

[Stu]

Why do people presume its a fix?

Someone in C4 could have just LEAKED how the voting was PROGRESSING to place huge bets!

[Scarlett.]

Sounds like a Fix
but for once it isnt Big Bros fault

[tinkerbell]

It is most certanly a fix, by the end of the show Brian wasnt even the seconda favourite anymore to a lot of pople...

[mat118]

perhaps the crowd screaming BRIAN, BRIAN, BRIAN all night long gave them some idea of who was gonna win it !!!

[Jack]

Even if it's true, it's still not technically a "fix". There's no rule against mass multiple voting and whilst it seems unfair, there's nothing you can do about it.

[andybigbro]

I dont think its afix cause i know toms of people like me who voted LOADS of times round about40 - 50 times

[goroos1994]

so what does this mean? is the game not over yet?

[Sam]

Nah, but I genuinley beleive that bookies voted lots unfairly to save losses, i've said it many times last night. It was unfair how they can influence the vote. NO WAY would it have been a 60% lead by Brian, it would have been so close.

[Sam]

Originally posted by andybigbro
I dont think its afix cause i know toms of people like me who voted LOADS of times round about40 - 50 times

And people din't for the twins?

[andybigbro]

Brian Won

You cnat change the Past

So Please Just get move on

[Stu]

Originally posted by mat118
perhaps the crowd screaming BRIAN, BRIAN, BRIAN all night long gave them some idea of who was going to win it !!!
No , because a crowd of 1,000 cant represent an entire voting public.

Besides , from what I understand , huge numbers of the crowd came form Essex.

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Sam
Originally posted by andybigbro
I dont think its afix cause i know toms of people like me who voted LOADS of times round about40 - 50 times

And people din't for the twins?

Maybe... But Brian Won and Why cant people just accept it

[goroos1994]

let me know if its in the news. lol. as i am from aust

[Jay]

I wouldn't bother to much about it we get the same story every year Brian won fair and square and people need to get over the fixing stuff because it wasn't a fix.

[Dan_]

If they really wanted to fix it for Brian to win, they'd hardly have allowed the twins to be put together to provide huge competition to him.

[Chrizzle]

Jays right- Brian won fair and sqaure.

People really need to just get over it.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Jack
Even if it's true, it's still not technically a "fix". There's no rule against mass multiple voting and whilst it seems unfair, there's nothing you can do about it.

If the gambling industry tried to fix the result to their advantage then that would be corruption and the law would have to be involved...........

Members of the public mass voting is one thing. If the gambling industry doing it (as alleged) to avoid large payouts that would be unacceptable corruption....So something could and should be done about it if it were true....

So far it seems we only have here say and speculation.......

[Jack]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Jack
Even if it's true, it's still not technically a "fix". There's no rule against mass multiple voting and whilst it seems unfair, there's nothing you can do about it.

If the gambling industry tried to fix the result to their advantage then that would be corruption and the law would have to be involved...........

Members of the public mass voting is one thing. If the gambling industtry doing it (as alleged) to avoid large payouts that would be unacceptable corruption....So something could and should be done about it if it were true....

So far it seems we only have here say and speculation.......

Fair enough, I just don't think there's anything that can be done about it.

[Arneldo]

People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:

[Matt]

And I tried to vote for the twins twice last night but couldn't get through.

:rolleyes:

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:


No. The public per say did not choose the winner. Mass voters distorting poularity chose the winner. It happens with all TV phone based competitions. True poularity is not the requirmenet for a win.......Those with more money than sense decide the winners.......

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:
The bookies still could have voted multiple times for him. in fact - its something that I now believe.

Its also funny how the phone lines for the twins seemed jammed to just about everybody while Brian , who was getting more and more votes , had a perfectly working phone line.

And to say its making excuses is a cheap way to undermine what could be some serious issues on hand.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Matt
And I tried to vote for the twins twice last night but couldn't get through.

:rolleyes:

I couldn't get through to Brians either so everyone was the same.

[andybigbro]

When i was Voting for Brian the phone lines were Jammed Also but i kept trying and trying

Please GET OVER IT

I though that people would be more mature and just accept it :rolleyes:

can you be happy for him


Geez

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:


No. The public per say did not choose the winner. Mass voters distorting poularity chose the winner. It happens with all TV phone based competitions. True poularity is not the requirmenet for a win.......Those with more money than sense decide the winners.......

If Twins fans wanted m to win, they should have voted - They clearly didn't vote enough and Brian came out on top. 60.3% is a high percentage and it celarly wasnt just those who massed voted that got him to first place. More people liked Brian, more people voted for Brian, Brian won, end of - IMO.

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro


Please GET OVER IT



No , we are free to discuss this as much as we want. Had the voting gone the other way - im sure you would have had something to say on the matter.

The fact that you dont want others to discuss your golden boys means of victory shows that you may need to get over it :thumbs:.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:


No. The public per say did not choose the winner. Mass voters distorting poularity chose the winner. It happens with all TV phone based competitions. True poularity is not the requirmenet for a win.......Those with more money than sense decide the winners.......

If Twins fans wanted m to win, they should have voted - They clearly didn't vote enough and Brian came out on top. 60.3% is a high percentage and it celarly wasnt just those who massed voted that got him to first place. More people liked Brian, more people voted for Brian, Brian won, end of - IMO.

In regards to that - I believe your 50% right.

More people voted for Brian yes - that much is obvious , but i firmly do not believe that more people liked Brian to the twins.

Some serious block voting was going on.

And I dont say that with bias , as my favourite was Ziggy :joker:.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner :thumbs:
The bookies still could have voted multiple times for him. in fact - its something that I now believe.

Its also funny how the phone lines for the twins seemed jammed to just about everybody while Brian , who was getting more and more votes , had a perfectly working phone line.

And to say its making excuses is a cheap way to undermine what could be some serious issues on hand.

The phone lines for Brian were also jammed - So I don't think people can use that excuse.

I personally think it is making excuses, but I expected it after Twins were fav's and because of all the hullabaloo over phone in competitions this year.

Also, can I just add that the only source we have of this is the C4 forums - hardly a good source.

[Stu]

Anyone know what the source from the C4 forums was?

[bananarama]

Originally posted by andybigbro
When i was Voting for Brian the phone lines were Jammed Also but i kept trying and trying

Please GET OVER IT

I though that people would be more mature and just accept it :rolleyes:

can you be happy for him


Geez


It's not a question of being happy for Brian. Brian is not being critised as none of the housemates are responsible for any potentially corrupt practices.

What matters is the credibilty of TV competitions. It is unfair to both viewers and contestants if the results are based on corrupt practices by those with a finacial interest to massage the results.......I am not saying that has happened. I don't know. But if the accusation is out there then the credibility of it needs to be examined...

[Stu]

Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is gonna vote for you and you wont need to.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other

[andybigbro]

It rediculous really and quite sad...Its a TV Gameshow its not then End of the World, Brian Won he got the most votes and therefore he won, The Twisn are ahppy he won, and as twins fans you should too :tongue:

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

Why should they change the voting?

If you dont like the voting, how it is then dont vote

[supercharlieb]

I personally believed that there was a huge upset last night....

The polls on the internet were ALL in favour of the twins.... i mean ALL!!!

its the bookies who decide....

People who placed bets on Brian and voted for him could make lots of money, there was even a bet worth 48K!!!! that guys going to be very rich!!!

the bookies didn't literally cheat but they manipulated the public into voting for Brian...

as one bookie said, 'if the twins had won, I'd be out of business'

[sl3ptsolong]

well personally i voted for brian in the last 20 mins about 10 times and its the only time i ever voted this year. There will have been thousands in my shoes pulling the vote up it just swung in brians favour lol get over it people

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

Why should they change the voting?

If you dont like the voting, how it is then dont vote

A. I never voted anyway. Not once.
B. This is not an attack on Brian.
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other
Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

Why should they change the voting?

If you dont like the voting, how it is then dont vote

A. I never voted anyway. Not once.
B. This is not an attack on Brian.
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

They did make it cheaper this year though

I dont think it can go any cheaper

[Amy]

Originally posted by Stu
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

I don't like the voting, have to be honest. I'd prefer text voting also? And it should be cheaper! But I never voted at all this year.. The last time I voted in a BB was BB2.

[Stu]

A lot of it hinges on the housemates too. We need housemates we WANT to vote for.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other
Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

I don't think they should make voting free. All them teeny-boppers would be voting non-stop 24/7 and it would make the show worse.

[andybigbro]

The Voting shouldnt be free - then people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote
you could vote a million times and it would still be free that is pointless

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other
Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

I don't think they should make voting free. All them teeny-boppers would be voting non-stop 24/7 and it would make the show worse.




The Voting shouldnt be free - then people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote


One vote per one household.

[supercharlieb]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=70812


doesn't this shout something out to you?

something isn't right here..

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other
Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

I don't think they should make voting free. All them teeny-boppers would be voting non-stop 24/7 and it would make the show worse.




The Voting shouldnt be free - then people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote


One vote per one household.

No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by supercharlieb
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=70812


doesn't this shout something out to you?

something isn't right here..

That is Only a TiBB Poll :rolleyes:

TiBB IS not the WHOLE UK Public

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

Yes they would vote vote vote if its was FREE!

but if it has a cost to the votes then it would limit to how much people can vote

After i voted Brian a lot of times my phone dial tone cut out and after the final it worked again

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

Yes they would vote vote vote if its was FREE!

but if it has a cost to the votes then it would limit to how much people can vote

After i voted Brian a lot of times my phone dial tone cut out and after the final it worked again

You can make the votes free , but restrict it to one vote per household , to get everyone voting , hence the point of this discussion im having with you.

Did you not read my argument?

[supercharlieb]

Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by supercharlieb
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=70812


doesn't this shout something out to you?

something isn't right here..

That is Only a TiBB Poll :rolleyes:

TiBB IS not the WHOLE UK Public

I can understamd your a big brian fan....

but doesn't that even raise your eyebrow slightly....

if I made a poll of who likes George Bush....

I reckon after 600 people voting, i'd get the general idea, wouldn't I?

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

Yes they would vote vote vote if its was FREE!

but if it has a cost to the votes then it would limit to how much people can vote

After i voted Brian a lot of times my phone dial tone cut out and after the final it worked again

You can make the votes free , but restrict it to one vote per household , to get everyone voting , hence the point of this discussion Im having with you.

Did you not read my argument?


Yes i did but i dont want to be restricted to one vote per household

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

Yes they would vote vote vote if its was FREE!

but if it has a cost to the votes then it would limit to how much people can vote

After i voted Brian a lot of times my phone dial tone cut out and after the final it worked again

You can make the votes free , but restrict it to one vote per household , to get everyone voting , hence the point of this discussion Im having with you.

Did you not read my argument?


Yes i did but i dont want to be restricted to one vote per household
Why not? Isint that fair? Its free , so each person has their say , and theirs no obssesive or block voting!

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andybigbro


No , Why should we be resticted to how many votes we can make

Because you just said in your own argument 'people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote' :rolleyes:.

Besides , one vote per person is COMPLETELY fair. Most things are done that way. Its called democracy :thumbs:.

Yes they would vote vote vote if its was FREE!

but if it has a cost to the votes then it would limit to how much people can vote

After i voted Brian a lot of times my phone dial tone cut out and after the final it worked again

You can make the votes free , but restrict it to one vote per household , to get everyone voting , hence the point of this discussion Im having with you.

Did you not read my argument?


Yes i did but i dont want to be restricted to one vote per household
Why not? Isint that fair? Its free , so each person has their say , and theirs no obssesive or block voting!


i just prefer it the other way
which is also fair cause you can vote how much times you want and it up to you to make adecision to how may times yuo vote

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro



i just prefer it the other way
which is also fair cause you can vote how much times you want and it up to you to make adecision to how may times yuo vote

Hows that fair? If someone wants person A. to win he votes once , but a person who wants person B. to win votes a hundred times - its really not an accurate representation of what people think.

[supercharlieb]

its the bookies, not the people that decide

[Stu]

Originally posted by supercharlieb
its the bookies, not the people that decide
Like they decided the twins won? :rolleyes:

[guardsman18]

Originally posted by andybigbro
I dont think its afix cause i know toms of people like me who voted LOADS of times round about40 - 50 times you people must have money to burn. do something useful and send it to me if you don't want it. And yes, i think it was a fix.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by andybigbro



i just prefer it the other way
which is also fair cause you can vote how much times you want and it up to you to make adecision to how may times yuo vote


You are joking. That is not fair it is down right corrupt. The richest voters get to win.

Imagine multiple voting was allowed at a General election...What would result. Chaos......

The only fair and proper representation of popularity is one vote per household.....Never will happen but unless it does no winner of any TV competion show can be sure they are genuine winners......

[Wasted]

There's no fix, but a lot of favouritism on the spin-off shows.

I'm referring particularly to BBLB *coughDermotO'LearyandhisloveforBrianandhisrefusal toallowanyoneontheshowwhohadanopinionagainstBriana ndhisattemptstoforceanyguestwhodidn'tlikeBriantosa ytheywantedhimtowinanywaycough*

I just hope a certain incompetant presenter will try doing a decent job at his show next year and actually be fair to all housemates now that he's got his own way for one series.

[Barbie]

i admit not just because im a Twins fan but it did seem weird that Brian won after the Twins being favourite to win and slightly more popular and then when Brian won with 60% of the vote but he has won now whether it was fair or not
the Twins will go far anyway so let invesigations be done but they wont find anything which changes results