View Full Version : Should Jade be forgiven?
Chrizzle
04-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Its occured to me that Jade is slowly getting her popularity back and I just want to say, I am glad.
I think she was a horrible bully in CBB, BUT no one should have to put up with long time hate and a label, if they havn't done something THAT serious
Pete Burns did worse to Jodie/Traci and he was asked to present BBBM:rolleyes:
I think society should forgive Jade completely, and we should get rid of the label that shes given, of 'racist'
Opinions?
goroos1994
04-09-2007, 09:30 PM
i still like jade. in CBB, i dont think she was anything as much fun as she was in bb3
Wasted
04-09-2007, 09:31 PM
We shouldn't have to forgive Jade. It was Shilpa she victimised and bullied like the awful hag she is, so Shilpa is the one to forgive and she did soon after leaving the House, but it's not like Jade did anything personally to all of us.
But this isn't the first and only example of bullying from Jade, so it's hard to forget. "Racist" is arguable, but she has well and truly earned the "bully" label.
What Jade did was serious though imo. Sure, loads of people complained and everything, which makes it seem like it's being blown out of proportion, but I don't think it was. If people hadn't complained so much and if the protests in India didn't happen, I doubt that BB would actually have done anything to stop the coven's behaviour towards Shilpa and would just have let it continue. Even Dermot O' Leary on BBLB and BBBB had been implying that Shilpa brought such treatment upon herself, but immediately dropped it when the complaints were getting more serious, so the producers were obviously favouring Jade until then.
The whole witch-hunt business after CBB was probably unneccessary and things may have been blown out of proportion then, especially if the death threats were real, but it doesn't change the fact that what Jade and her fellow gang of trolls were doing was awful and a disgrace, even when you take the racism stuff away from it.
BigBrother_x*
04-09-2007, 09:37 PM
suppose ! im over it now anyway but i still hate her! not for that reason i just dont like her anyway liked her sort of in bb3 but when she came back i was like shes just really annoying and especially because she was with jack and her mum!!
Shes just a pig and will always be a pig :)
I've never agreed with Jade's popularity in the first place. What has she actually done to earn millions of pounds and celebrity status? Seeing Shilpa forgave her and she has been villified enough, I think we should forgive and forget (forget in every meaning of the sense). In my opinion, she should never be given any media attention again.
Wasted
04-09-2007, 09:41 PM
I agree with what Jack said about forgetting. I would love to forget, but unfortunately, Goofy will probably be around for a while yet. And while the media continue to showcase creatures such as the Jade, I will continue to criticise them.
Pipergun
04-09-2007, 10:11 PM
I agree with a lot of what's already been said:
I completely agree with Jack, and it's sad that the day has gone when being a celebrity required a "talent", but seeing as it wasn't our job to do the forgiving, we should now move on from the incident.
I think it's key though, that after an argument or incident, that you learn from your mistakes, and don't make the same ones twice. I'm not so sure whether Jade has thought "Right, I won't do that again". Time will tell...
nicola001
04-09-2007, 10:16 PM
Yeah i actualy like jade and thought it was horrid how she got the blame for being racist! she did not say one racist remark. Maybe she shouted but i do not call that bullying, dont we all shout in arguments it happens in every day life and it is not on the news!
I think joe and danielle got away with it all and they were the ones who made racist remarks. Jade got all the blame and it was so not fair!
noahman
04-09-2007, 10:17 PM
I Forgive Jade
Wasted
04-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by nicola001
Yeah i actualy like jade and thought it was horrid how she got the blame for being racist! she did not say one racist remark. Maybe she shouted but i do not call that bullying, dont we all shout in arguments it happens in every day life and it is not on the news!
I think joe and danielle got away with it all and they were the ones who made racist remarks. Jade got all the blame and it was so not fair!
I agree on Danielle getting away with it but not Jo. She also apparently received death threats like Jade. And she hasn't been in the media flaunting herself and using the race row to further her media status like Danielle, and Jade has been in the media an awful lot too.
The fact that Jo has kept more quiet ever since shows, in my opinion, that she is genuinely ashamed of what she did and doesn't even want any z-lister status gained from what she did - Unlike Danielle and Jade, who both seem happy to keep themselves in the spotlight, knowing that the awful thing they did is what is keeping them so well-known.
Kevin
04-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by nicola001
Yeah i actualy like jade and thought it was horrid how she got the blame for being racist! she did not say one racist remark. Maybe she shouted but i do not call that bullying, dont we all shout in arguments it happens in every day life and it is not on the news!
I think joe and danielle got away with it all and they were the ones who made racist remarks. Jade got all the blame and it was so not fair!
I agree, I like Jade too, have done since BB3!
Jade and Jo got it worse imo. Nothing was said much about Danielle, but then again she did get her tits out here and there :rolleyes:
farhad
05-09-2007, 09:58 AM
No please, she isn't funny, or hasn't showcased anything that is talent, and just pure ugly, dont see what personality she has that is appealing.
Billy
05-09-2007, 10:03 AM
I hate the fact that people still hate her. I think Danielle got away with alot, but then its not really her faulyt for getting away with it. The girls arent any worse than Pete Burns, and I hope they can get past it. Id say forgive and forget
Captain.Remy
05-09-2007, 10:07 AM
I don't mind her in fact, what happened happened and it's over now. She stills a great housemates. However, she shoud have shut her mouth and maybe do not think she was the best. Maybe the fact she was the most successful housemate ever made her mean and awful.
I think Jade should be forgiven. She made a small non intentional mistake and people should let it go now.
Jade is Jade and will never change in a million year, she made the same mistake twice, even worse on the second time, big mistake ,as she is famous the second time round.All the money she have earn should have at least teach her she manners ,l don't think she will ever change if there is a third time in the house, she will be the same.As they say one a liar alway a liar.ln this case one a nasty bully ,alway is nasty bully
l just can't get myself to like her at all. l think most of us have move on, Forgive her or not and liking her is two different thing.:shrug:
robroy_2000
14-09-2007, 05:44 PM
i think she should be forgiven
Harry!
14-09-2007, 05:46 PM
yep,she should be forgiven
n.l.o7
14-09-2007, 05:52 PM
yeh i love jade !!!!
jane.stow
14-09-2007, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by postandpollmad
yep,she should be forgiven
Of course she should be forgiven. To continue to hate someone for over-reacting on a reality show is stupid.
Why continue to hate a BB housemate?? I mean, they keep us glued to our TV set and that is fact.
Jade Goody is the most famous BB housemate ever and people should accept that fact and forget about the furore, otherwise BB9 might never happen
no1bigbrofan
14-09-2007, 06:40 PM
yes yes and yes that the only answer !
Red Moon
14-09-2007, 06:44 PM
No Never..... once a bully always a bully.
Jade Goody is now the most infamous Celebrity television star ever and she should remain that way. We should all being using her as an example of how not to behave.
I won't be forgiving her as long as she continues to try and rebuild her career.
jane.stow
14-09-2007, 08:59 PM
Sorry Nodisharmony your not allowed to talk about Jade - Red
BB8:(
14-09-2007, 09:02 PM
Yes
Athought i voted for shilpa to win
when i look back on it she was rather annoying
she would have provoked anyone
lf you find Shilpa annoying, l wonder how you felt towards Jade,Jo and Danielle looking back.Do you think they have done the right thing by bullying her now? :puzzled:
Kristen
15-09-2007, 08:55 AM
This shows what a sexist society we live in.
Pete, Michael and George torment and continually critisice Jodie who just wanted to get on with them and because they are men it's no big deal.
Because Danielle, Jo and Jade were women they are bitches and deserve hate.
I'm over the race row and Jade is getting her popularity back.
spacebandit
15-09-2007, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Kristen
This shows what a sexist society we live in.
Pete, Michael and George torment and continually critisice Jodie who just wanted to get on with them and because they are men it's no big deal.
Because Danielle, Jo and Jade were women they are bitches and deserve hate.
I'm over the race row and Jade is getting her popularity back.
And what about the WOMAN they bullied ?
Right On Sister
Kristen
15-09-2007, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by Kristen
This shows what a sexist society we live in.
Pete, Michael and George torment and continually critisice Jodie who just wanted to get on with them and because they are men it's no big deal.
Because Danielle, Jo and Jade were women they are bitches and deserve hate.
I'm over the race row and Jade is getting her popularity back.
And what about the WOMAN they bullied ?
Right On Sister
I detect sarcasm :bored:
Well,l throught l have forgiven them,not until l saw the recent interview of Jade with Pier ,oh man she not change at all ,she really is the same Jade with no changes, people say you are forgiven if you change from your mistake,in her case not at all.ls the way she carries herself and her attitude l really hate of .During the interview ,she kept blaming her mum for the way she is now,well Jade maybe Jackie is part to blame but not all, you a not a child anymore,you should use your brain more,l don't think she has much for having Jack as a boyfriend .He is such a silly ,randy, Di**.Her ex-husband is quite nice,l wonder why they split?He told the newpaper,there is to side to Jade ,she can be nice if she wants to but he said she use to really bully him and he just can't take it anymore so they have call it a day
Now, maybe she is coming back slightly ,l don't think she will ever be as big as she was before, she is coming back by getting sympathy with people because of her kids.l actually do fell sorry for her boys only,surely if you a are mother you shouldn't act the way she did. Actually it made it waste for her ,if she has'nt got kids,l think l wouldn't hate her as much.This will influence her kids and ALL her young fans she have to act the way she is.
l have spoke to alot of adults ,they All say she is terrible and wouldn't like their daughter to be like her.
Pete,micheal and George are wrong too.Their career is not as good as Jades.As for Jade her products is for young teens mainly and parents don't like their kids to get influence to become a bitch like her.That is why she has so many people dislike her plus there was the race row too which doesn't go down well ,you think is only the asian people who hate her ,believe me is not.There is alot of British people too including myself:laugh:
spacebandit
15-09-2007, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Kristen
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by Kristen
This shows what a sexist society we live in.
Pete, Michael and George torment and continually critisice Jodie who just wanted to get on with them and because they are men it's no big deal.
Because Danielle, Jo and Jade were women they are bitches and deserve hate.
I'm over the race row and Jade is getting her popularity back.
And what about the WOMAN they bullied ?
Right On Sister
I detect sarcasm :bored:
I detect an argument that fell flat on its face :rolleyes:
BB8:(
15-09-2007, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Jas
lf you find Shilpa annoying, l wonder how you felt towards Jade,Jo and Danielle looking back.Do you think they have done the right thing by bullying her now? :puzzled:
no i dont think it was right to bully her
but that stupid politician that started all of this deserves to be shot
there was no need for all of this
Originally posted by Red Moon
No Never..... once a bully always a bully.
Jade Goody is now the most infamous Celebrity television star ever and she should remain that way. We should all being using her as an example of how not to behave.
I won't be forgiving her as long as she continues to try and rebuild her career. Red Moon i totally agree with you there :laugh:
Conor
15-09-2007, 11:28 AM
I think Jade deserves to re start her career.
Red Moon
15-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by BB8:(
but that stupid politician that started all of this deserves to be shot
It wasn't the politicians fault it was Jade Goody's and her little lap dogs. If they hadn't have said and done what she did she wouldn't be in this position now and there would have been no complaints or the sanitized Big Brother 8 we have all just finished watching.
However turning our attention to the complaints to Ofcom. I believe a lot of the complaints didn't even come from people that watch the show. Most people complain about something within 24 hours of seeing it. In this case most of the complaints came later than that. There was clearly a Chinese whisper campaign on the streets and on the internet. The politicians got involved in the whole thing after the complaints started rolling into Ofcom like they always do making it sound like it was there idea.
Red Moon
15-09-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Conor
I think Jade deserves to re start her career.
What has she done to deserve to restart it?
spacebandit
15-09-2007, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Conor
I think Jade deserves to re start her career.
Why should she profit from being racist bully ?.
her so called apologies were just media exercises in damage limitation - none of it was sincere, it was only done for Jades career, Jades bank balance and a pathetic attempt to paint herself as being misunderstood.
She deserves nothing but anonymity - she should just take her money and disappear, there's bolt-holes in South America that welcome racist filth if they have some money to splash around
Conor
15-09-2007, 03:10 PM
She didn't mean to be racist. And even Shilpa said she didn't think it was racism. Im a big fan of both housemates to, so I'm not bais.
Sod_James
15-09-2007, 03:45 PM
Personally i fink it was blown way out of proportion. Jade is not racist. she may be many things like a bully and a loud mouth cow but i dont believe she is racist. The media just grabbed hole of this because it was like a giant piece of meat dangling in front of them and they just had to bite.
Of-course she deserve to get her career back,l am sure her boss will take her back to be a dental nurse onces again or he might not:puzzled:
Conzors
16-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Sod_James
Personally i fink it was blown way out of proportion. Jade is not racist. she may be many things like a bully and a loud mouth cow but i dont believe she is racist. The media just grabbed hole of this because it was like a giant piece of meat dangling in front of them and they just had to bite.
agreed
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