View Full Version : Will Dermot be bias on X Factor live shows???.
Amy21
09-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Will Dermot be bias on X Factor when the shows go live??? and pick his favourite and constantely go on about his chosen one like he did with Glynn BB7 and Brian and Carole BB8. I think he will :rolleyes:. Let me know your thoughts please.
Retroman
09-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Does it matter?
You have to have a relatively low IQ and little free will to vote for someone purely because a man on your television likes them.
People claim that a presenter sticking up/promoting someone they're a fan of influences that persons chances of winning...
But at the end of the day, it really doesn't. If you don't like Brian, you don't like him, and you don't just change your mind about him because Dermot told you to.
Baring in mind he didn't actually tell you to change your mind at all, he is just saying who he likes. He does have a right to express his opinion on the show he's working on, it shows he has an interest in it.
XxShortyxX
09-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh yeah of course he, I can't wait for that, and no doubt it will be a guy again :rolleyes:
Sarah.
09-09-2007, 05:26 PM
So what if he does? He's not voting, we are.
XxShortyxX
09-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Becuase you can't be bias when you are presenting. He is the most bias presenter ever!
Retroman
09-09-2007, 05:35 PM
You can't be bias?
Im not sure that's in his job decription.
He is allowed an opinion on the show, and who his favourite is.
And like I said, it shows the viewers he takes a genuine interest, and isn't just doing it for the money.
And again, if anyone out there honestly votes for someone purely because Dermot likes them, they are suffering from mental difficulties and lack of free will =] so his bias has no effect on anyone, hence it doesn't matter.
Case closed.
Wasted
09-09-2007, 05:36 PM
He will definitely be bias, and will try to sway the public vote just like he does on BBLB.
Retroman
09-09-2007, 05:39 PM
Even if he is on some secret mission to try and sway the public vote, can you honestly say he's swayed a single persons vote in the history of Big Brother?
No, you can't.
So that being said, his bias has no effect on the world, or the voting. It's just him telling us who he likes, and if we agree it's because we also like them, not because Dermot said we should like them.
You need to try and get your head around the fact that people think for themselves, and don't base their likings on those of BBLB presenters.
XxShortyxX
09-09-2007, 05:44 PM
I remeber when Brian was up for eviction that time, as was Liam, I rember he siad something along the lines of "well we know they are safe" erm how does he know that? then he said "everyone loves Brian" erm no they don't! that to me is beening bias, and speaking for everyone who watches BB. A lot of people went of Brian because Dermatt couldn't even say his name with out gigging like a school girl, and he couldn't go one show with out even mention Brian's name, it's like the other HM's didn't exicst, it was Brian this, Brian that.
Wasted
09-09-2007, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Retroman
Even if he is on some secret mission to try and sway the public vote, can you honestly say he's swayed a single persons vote in the history of Big Brother?
No, you can't.
So that being said, his bias has no effect on the world, or the voting. It's just him telling us who he likes, and if we agree it's because we also like them, not because Dermot said we should like them.
You need to try and get your head around the fact that people think for themselves, and don't base their likings on those of BBLB presenters.
I didn't say that his propaganda worked. And just because it doesn't influence people doesn't mean he doesn't give it a good try. I still think he'll probably be the same as he is on BBLB when it comes to the live shows... if he actually appears that is...
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
I remeber when Brian was up for eviction that time, as was Liam, I rember he siad something along the lines of "well we know they are safe" erm how does he know that? then he said "everyone loves Brian" erm no they don't! that to me is beening bias, and speaking for everyone who watches BB. A lot of people went of Brian because Dermatt couldn't even say his name with out gigging like a school girl, and he couldn't go one show with out even mention Brian's name, it's like the other HM's didn't exicst, it was Brian this, Brian that.
I am pretty sure most people realized that Liam and Brian were going to be safe.
Retroman
09-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
I remeber when Brian was up for eviction that time, as was Liam, I rember he siad something along the lines of "well we know they are safe" erm how does he know that? then he said "everyone loves Brian" erm no they don't! that to me is beening bias, and speaking for everyone who watches BB. A lot of people went of Brian because Dermatt couldn't even say his name with out gigging like a school girl, and he couldn't go one show with out even mention Brian's name, it's like the other HM's didn't exicst, it was Brian this, Brian that.
I suppose it's not possible that Dermot just happened to like and talk about the one person everyone else seemed to be liking and talking about? I watched many of the BBLB shows, and im sure most of his time was spent asking questions or reporting on what BB told him to...
The rest wasn't spent talking constantly about Brian either. Also, when it becomes clear someone is liked above others, and they're being cheered for every Friday night by the audience..BBLB are going to want to mention them quite a lot, because we're finally close to knowing who the winner is after such a long time.
Brian wasn't promoted anytime before then, or claimed to be better than anyone else. He was only talked about once everyone realised the majority of people thought he was a decent person and liked him. Or when people were discussing how funny he was for being so clueless.
People are acting asthough Dermot uses BBLB or potentially X Factor, to get the whole country to agree with him so he can have the person he likes crowned winner...
I really do doubt Dermot cares enough about the competition to do such things. And is an intelligent enough man to know a few words from him won't change/sway anyone who doesn't like who he likes.
XxShortyxX
09-09-2007, 06:18 PM
The way I saw it, was every BBLB, Dermatt was promoting Brian, I felt sorry for the other HM's, as nearly every BBLB it was about Brian.
Juelz
09-09-2007, 08:13 PM
its a completely different show to BBLB theres no way he will do it on this.
you tell me when he could?
the set up of the show is completely different, it wont even be possible, just think of the presenter last year, she couldnt either
Berto3000
09-09-2007, 08:28 PM
why can't you leave Dermot alone, y does it matter if he's bias?? like mentioned above he can't sway peoples votes! he has an opinion and is free to express it... Dermot is my fave celeb out there and i have met him 7 times and really got 2 like him more but on big brother his fave was brian but i couldn't stand brian!! clearly that shows that Dermot can't sway votes!
DANii--X
10-09-2007, 03:55 PM
no
Chri$
11-09-2007, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Amy21
Will Dermot be bias on X Factor when the shows go live??? and pick his favourite and constantely go on about his chosen one like he did with Glynn BB7 and Brian and Carole BB8. I think he will :rolleyes:. Let me know your thoughts please.
Glynn? Dermot diddent realy root for Spiaral did he??
But Yeah he is *Poo* on BB But Great on X Factor
Conor
12-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Dermott shouldn't have gone for X Factor at all, he may be leaving BBLB for X Factor next year!
Retroman
12-09-2007, 06:46 PM
In my opinion he's not all that good on X factor...
He doesn't get shown much, or talk to the contestants that much either.
Fearne Cotton definitely got the better deal.
Although it'll be interesting to see how much he's featured/talks on the live shows, compared to Kate Thornton.
bananarama
12-09-2007, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Retroman
Does it matter?
You have to have a relatively low IQ and little free will to vote for someone purely because a man on your television likes them.
People claim that a presenter sticking up/promoting someone they're a fan of influences that persons chances of winning...
But at the end of the day, it really doesn't. If you don't like Brian, you don't like him, and you don't just change your mind about him because Dermot told you to.
Baring in mind he didn't actually tell you to change your mind at all, he is just saying who he likes. He does have a right to express his opinion on the show he's working on, it shows he has an interest in it.
There are always people that sit on the fence. Have not yet decided. It is those people that brainwashing is target at.
Nothing to do with inelligence or low IQ (As if IQ has any meaning anyway).
The constant drip drip drip of bias can and does generate bandwagon effects from the section of people who are more followers than leaders.
So yes it does matter if a presenter or guests of a presenter is being constantly biased and persuasive of his/her bias.
As for the question will he try and brainwash the X factor audience. No. More than his jobs worth. He does not have to beckon to CH4 pre programmed psychology experiments.....
Joneseye
12-09-2007, 10:37 PM
having favarates is human nature.....i dont think thats being unprofesional at all
Joneseye
12-09-2007, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Retroman
In my opinion he's not all that good on X factor...
He doesn't get shown much, or talk to the contestants that much either.
Fearne Cotton definitely got the better deal.
Although it'll be interesting to see how much he's featured/talks on the live shows, compared to Kate Thornton.
during X Factor Auditions he wasent there that often becauase he had to get back to London to do BBLB And he was Exhausted.
Retroman
12-09-2007, 10:54 PM
Well I guess it's a matter of opinion, but id prefer a presenter to have their own view on the show and express it...rather than them stick purely to script/almost robotic responses and show no interest.
And I really don't recall this constant persuassion that Dermot apparently attempted.
He was interviewing people, talking about random things, random Big Brother goings on, the latest argument, sharing jokes with the audience etc etc. I don't remember this so called "Brians great" talk. And even if he did say something along the lines of "Brian is hilarious isn't he, I just love him" I would imagine it was straight after talking about/showing something to do with Brian. Surely he didn't walk around randomly blurting it out =] otherwise he'd seem a little mental.
And I doubt Dermot chooses who or what is discussed and shown.
If you truly believe in Dermots so called bias, perhaps you should be questioning the opportunities and material Big Brother provided for him in order to talk about Brian. And not questioning Dermot himself.
bananarama
13-09-2007, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Retroman
Well I guess it's a matter of opinion, but id prefer a presenter to have their own view on the show and express it...rather than them stick purely to script/almost robotic responses and show no interest.
And I really don't recall this constant persuassion that Dermot apparently attempted.
He was interviewing people, talking about random things, random Big Brother goings on, the latest argument, sharing jokes with the audience etc etc. I don't remember this so called "Brians great" talk. And even if he did say something along the lines of "Brian is hilarious isn't he, I just love him" I would imagine it was straight after talking about/showing something to do with Brian. Surely he didn't walk around randomly blurting it out =] otherwise he'd seem a little mental.
And I doubt Dermot chooses who or what is discussed and shown.
If you truly believe in Dermots so called bias, perhaps you should be questioning the opportunities and material Big Brother provided for him in order to talk about Brian. And not questioning Dermot himself.
Like all employees when the master calls you jump......Dermot in a nut shell.
Retroman
13-09-2007, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by bananarama
Like all employees when the master calls you jump......Dermot in a nut shell.
Quite possibly...
If that is the case, perhaps it's a little insight as to if Big Brother deliberately planned for Brian to win. Mainly in regards to him being black and the racism issue from CBB.
They also choose exactly who goes into the house, so perhaps they set out to find a down to earth, slightly dumb/innocent black man who would identify with the majority of the viewing public.
But I still believe Dermot was entitled to an opinion on his favourite and to voice his views, however...if anything on the show was deliberate, and he was told to talk about Brian or ordered to discuss moments with Brian in them more so than moments with other housemates etc, then that's a different matter.
Im also not sure if ALL the celebrities on Big Brothers little brother, and big mouth actually watched Big Brother and had a genuine opinion on it. I can't say either way, but if they were all actual fans then Big Brother did a good job of finding a wide variety of currently popular celebrities who all happen to watch Big Brother quite a lot.
bananarama
13-09-2007, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Retroman
Originally posted by bananarama
Like all employees when the master calls you jump......Dermot in a nut shell.
Quite possibly...
If that is the case, perhaps it's a little insight as to if Big Brother deliberately planned for Brian to win. Mainly in regards to him being black and the racism issue from CBB.
They also choose exactly who goes into the house, so perhaps they set out to find a down to earth, slightly dumb/innocent black man who would identify with the majority of the viewing public.
But I still believe Dermot was entitled to an opinion on his favourite and to voice his views, however...if anything on the show was deliberate, and he was told to talk about Brian or ordered to discuss moments with Brian in them more so than moments with other housemates etc, then that's a different matter.
Im also not sure if ALL the celebrities on Big Brothers little brother, and big mouth actually watched Big Brother and had a genuine opinion on it. I can't say either way, but if they were all actual fans then Big Brother did a good job of finding a wide variety of currently popular celebrities who all happen to watch Big Brother quite a lot.
Personally I wish BBLB would do away with or cut down severely the amount of none BB related celebs. I wish instead they would invite ex housemates from BB and CBB to make their comments on the progress of the show.
Guests do seem to be primed to praise the show no matter how bad it may be at times.......
Also it would be nice to see some of the past housemates again.......
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