Censorship

[Scarlett.]

With the news that a film has been banned due to the Mcann's case, do you think Censorship has gone to far?

In some cases it is right but in others it is unneccasary

what do YOU think?

Poll Question: Do you agree with Censorship

[bananarama]

Anything that is legal. Should never be censored. Regulated yes to protect vulnerable people if need be. Censored as in a complete ban of something that is legal then no as censoship is a means of taking control over peoples free choice...

[spacebandit]

What movie ?

[Jack_Crossitt]

Banning of Ben Affleck movie?
The U.K. banned the release of Ben Afflecks new movie 'Gone, Baby, Gone' because they felt it had too many similarities to the Madeline McCann story. I'm just curious if people feel that is right or wrong. There are other kidnapping movies out there, and millions of other children have disapperaed.

I found this on a yahoo search. I do think that, in light of what has happened to Madeline Mcann, that at this time - the film should be held back from release until this case blows over. No film should be banned permanently regarding a kidnapping storyline. I feel that in certain cases, censorship has to be done.

[Scarlett.]

I think its just stupid, Maddie has been missing for months, why should a film be cancelled? many children go missing each day in other countrys, but its not banned there is it?

[Jack_Crossitt]

Originally posted by Chewy
I think its just stupid, Maddie has been missing for months, why should a film be cancelled? many children go missing each day in other countrys, but its not banned there is it?

It is just a sensible decision for the time being. The Madeline Mcann investigation is very much headline news at the moment and releasing a film about kidnapping right now just isn't right - it's in poor taste, thats all. Don't worry, it won't be banned forever.

[Scarlett.]

its not in bad taste, Maddie is probably never going to be found, there I said it, so should we put off kidnapping storylines in Soaps, ban films forever? its silly now, we can make decisions for ourselves, whether we want to see films or not we live in a so call 'Democracy' yet everything is censored Democracy my arse

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
its not in bad taste, Maddie is probably never going to be found, there I said it, so should we put off kidnapping storylines in Soaps, ban films forever? its silly now, we can make decisions for ourselves, whether we want to see films or not we live in a so call 'Democracy' yet everything is censored Democracy my ****

there is nothing wrong with having feelings for Madeline Mcann, many of us are touched by the whole thing and i feel upset for them too. losing their daughter and also being accused of murdering her themselves is bad enough. Some poxy film that isnt that important can wait a bit, let the dust settle and then they can bring it out later, theres loads of kidnapping films in dvd libraries, let people watch one of them or on sky or summin, leave the Mcanns alone:sad:

[Scarlett.]

Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

[bananarama]

Ah. If the question is about a specific film and not censorship in general then I think the film mentioned should not have been postponed. The Portuguese police are upsetting the Mc'Canns more than any film could....

[Ross]

No.

People won't automatically assume the film is too simular to Maddie's case.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama
Ah. If the question is about a specific film and not censorship in general then I think the film mentioned should not have been postponed. The Portuguese police are upsetting the Mc'Canns more than any film could....

the portuguese police had to do their job. if they had to upset the Mcanns then that was a shame and i wished it had not have happnd but it did. still dont make any difference to the film being postponed or not, does IT?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film There comes a point when the nation has to move on

[geoking66]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film

But why should one group of people have to be annoyed because another group are upset about the kidnapping? It's not fair to those who want to see it. In an even better question, why do we even care, it's not our child who's gone missing.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film There comes a point when the nation has to move on

they will move on, but not yet. maybe a few months time when this blows over

[geoking66]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film There comes a point when the nation has to move on

they will move on, but not yet. maybe a few months time when this blows over

Why does someone's child's disappearance really have any difference in our lives anyway? Just because some parents were negligible (we all know that), that is in no way a good excuse for banning a movie.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by geoking66
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film

But why should one group of people have to be annoyed because another group are upset about the kidnapping? It's not fair to those who want to see it. In an even better question, why do we even care, it's not our child who's gone missing.

(not our child gone missing):puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

where does that heartless opinion come from:puzzled: it comes from the depths of selfishness and i am not selfish i am contemplating the actual feelings of so many people out there who are very touched by what the Mcanns are going through. we are talking about some poxy kidnapping film which ai'nt that important i dont care about that film, i am feeling better about waiting a while and letting things pass by. the Mcann kidnapping will still be talked about but i only assume it will lessen in the papers and telly

if people get annoyed about the kidnapping film bein cancelled right now then thats tough tooti:bigsmile: feelings for the Mcanns are more important

[Scarlett.]

What about all the other missing children, you never hear about them, it obvious Maddie wont be found now

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
What about all the other missing children, you never hear about them, it obvious Maddie wont be found now

it is not about finding madeline, it is about respect and if you dont understand that then i cant really teach you. it is somethin which you either recognize or you dont

[Scarlett.]

I know respect, but really, people have to move on, The Mcanns are sick of this media circus following them when they are trying to get back to normal

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
I know respect, but really, people have to move on, The Mcanns are sick of this media circus following them when they are trying to get back to normal

if they release the movie and plenty of sympathisers complain then what would you expect them to do? it is in poor taste and for a while at least its better to let the film wait a moment

[Scarlett.]

it in bad taste because a publicised child abduction case (and there millions each day) If it wasnt publicised, would it be in bad taste?

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
it in bad taste because a publicised child abduction case (and there millions each day) If it wasnt publicised, would it be in bad taste?

of course it would be diff. it is the fact that it has been publicised so much that it would be in poor taste, heavy publicity makes it so and that is why the kidnapping film is being left where it is until they decide otherewise laters

millions each day:puzzled::puzzled:thats overstating

[Scarlett.]

it isnt over stating
and the film as been banned due to it being publicised not because shes been kidnapped

its all wrong

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
it isnt over stating
and the film as been banned due to it being publicised not because shes been kidnapped

its all wrong

millions each day is overstaating and banned for being publicised or banned for her being kidnapped is the right reasons

[Scarlett.]

it banned because the case was publicised, not because it might upset someone

if the Maddie case never existed, the film would still upset people

whats different? the cameras are focused on one family

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
it banned because the case was publicised, not because it might upset someone

if the Maddie case never existed, the film would still upset people

whats different? the cameras are focused on one family

rubbish it will upset people and publicised or not wont mean **** to nowt, film banned for now and they will have to wait, Mcanns 1 poxy film zero, that seems fair really, who needs this film anyroads:puzzled: also if the film had been scheduled for release and the Mcanns case hadnt happnd it may have offended people but it wouldnt been banned

want to talk bout (childs play 3) and why that was taken off the shelves after another case over a killing of a child:puzzled:

[Scarlett.]

It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

Big brother:puzzled:

ive just said why it was banned, now your going in circles again:bored: the film will be released later on, no need to keep moaning:bored:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

Big brother:puzzled:
George Orwell? ever heard of him?
its not just a TV show

[Benji]

I do think it was wrong. What about Films bout 9/11 and the distress it must cause people to watch those films.

What if the Maddie hadnt 'gone' and she is still here, what about the other people in the world who have lost there children. etc.

Its not fair how a film (which sounds good) is banned due to it having similar themes to what is goign on in life everyday, Just becuase the Mcanns case has been Media frolic etc. blah blah blah i dont know what im talkin abotu anymoree

I dont think its fair, just becuase of the mcanns case when this is happening all over the world.

[Benji]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

Big brother:puzzled:

ive just said why it was banned, now your going in circles again:bored: the film will be released later on, no need to keep moaning:bored:

Well its not going to banned in the Uk then if it WILL be released at a later date.???

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

Big brother:puzzled:
George Orwell? ever heard of him?
its not just a TV show

no sorry:puzzled:

[Benji]

He wrote a book which big brother is based on.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Benji
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
It was censored because it might upset the Mcanns
but it would upset other people

Why are the other people any different? because "Big Brother" didnt pick them to be publicised

Big brother:puzzled:

ive just said why it was banned, now your going in circles again:bored: the film will be released later on, no need to keep moaning:bored:

Well its not going to banned in the Uk then if it WILL be released at a later date.???

i said it will be released later on, but not now the Mcanns case is so current on the news, Richard branson would approve im sure, hes taking a keen interest and paying summin towards their legal costs and he wouldnt think it is good taste to release a kidnapping film at this time and that is my feelings also

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Benji
He wrote a book which big brother is based on.

oh right thanks:thumbs: i could have checked on the internet and been all cleverlike:laugh::wink: but i'm honest:bigsmile:

[geoking66]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by geoking66
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its about choice, people dont have to go see the movie, why should things be restricted? the Mcanns wont worry about Freddie being kidnapped on corrie, they wont care about a child going missing in a film

its not really about that. a lot of people are very touched about this kidnapping of Madeline and the last thing they want is a film released bout kidnapping. it makes very good sense to delay its release and Im right behind that

the Coronation street storyline bout freddie was changed remember. they were goin to do a massive kidnapping but the writers changed it for the same reason. It is better to have a heart before worrying bout a poxy kidnapping film

But why should one group of people have to be annoyed because another group are upset about the kidnapping? It's not fair to those who want to see it. In an even better question, why do we even care, it's not our child who's gone missing.

(not our child gone missing):puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

where does that heartless opinion come from:puzzled: it comes from the depths of selfishness and i am not selfish i am contemplating the actual feelings of so many people out there who are very touched by what the Mcanns are going through. we are talking about some poxy kidnapping film which ai'nt that important i dont care about that film, i am feeling better about waiting a while and letting things pass by. the Mcann kidnapping will still be talked about but i only assume it will lessen in the papers and telly

if people get annoyed about the kidnapping film bein cancelled right now then thats tough tooti:bigsmile: feelings for the Mcanns are more important

Again, my reason is:

Why should the neglegence of two obviously incompetent parents have any say in what media the public can access? The McCanns or anyone else who's upset DO NOT HAVE TO WATCH THE MOVIE!

[Dr43%er]

I have only skip read this so I don't know if it has been mentioned.

Money.

The film has been delayed as rightly or wrongly the great British public have a connection with Maddy. Even though the film would have been scheduled for release yonks ago, some people would have thought they were cashing in by releasing it now. The bad press that could be caused could hit the box office takings. They obviously don't want that. The same happened with "Phone Booth" in the states. It was due to be released, but then they had the sniper shootings over there, so it got delayed.

It is all about profit and not any scene of right and wrong.

[Ruth]

I don't agree with censorship. Children go missing all the time, and never get the kind of publicity that the Maddie case has received, because they don't come from 'respectable, middle class' families - who cares about the families of those children? The film does not breach any laws and therefore should not be banned.

[Dr43%er]

Has not been banned. Just put back for the reasons I put above.

[Ruth]

Sorry - that's what I meant.

[bananarama]

This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

[bananarama]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

That's not good enough. Removing peoples rights to see or hear something that is legal can NEVER be right. If you don't like some thing that is legal censor oneself and leave other people alone to make their own choices.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

That's not good enough. Removing peoples rights to see or hear something that is legal can NEVER be right. If you don't like some thing that is legal censor oneself and leave other people alone to make their own choices.

it is good enough and its touch tooti for those who dont like that. it is out of respect for the Mcanns and thats fair and right and i believe that. you just want to watch a poxy kidnapping film and thats it

cant you wait a bit?

[Scarlett.]

Its limiting our freedom, just another step toward the "Big Brother" society

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by Chewy
Its limiting our freedom, just another step toward the "Big Brother" society

its a step towards decency, nothing more:bigsmile:

[Scarlett.]

Course, ITS CONTROLING WHAT WE FLIPPIN WATCH!!!!!

and we call ourselves a Democratic Country

[cujo-man]

Hi.

Could someone tell me how to put my banner onto my sig?

[Scarlett.]

Lol a bit random but put the [img ] [/ img] tags around it with no spaces :wink:

[geoking66]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

That's not good enough. Removing peoples rights to see or hear something that is legal can NEVER be right. If you don't like some thing that is legal censor oneself and leave other people alone to make their own choices.

it is good enough and its touch tooti for those who dont like that. it is out of respect for the Mcanns and thats fair and right and i believe that. you just want to watch a poxy kidnapping film and thats it

cant you wait a bit?

How many times can I say it, the McCanns don't deserve anything anyway. If we banned every movie that had something about abduction in it because some morons lost their kid, then none of those movies would be shown. This is utter bullcrap. This is a complete violation of people's rights for media to be accessible.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by geoking66
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

That's not good enough. Removing peoples rights to see or hear something that is legal can NEVER be right. If you don't like some thing that is legal censor oneself and leave other people alone to make their own choices.

it is good enough and its touch tooti for those who dont like that. it is out of respect for the Mcanns and thats fair and right and i believe that. you just want to watch a poxy kidnapping film and thats it

cant you wait a bit?

How many times can I say it, the McCanns don't deserve anything anyway. If we banned every movie that had something about abduction in it because some morons lost their kid, then none of those movies would be shown. This is utter bullcrap. This is a complete violation of people's rights for media to be accessible.

why dont the Mcanns deserve anything? i dont understand your opinion at all. the Mcanns have been through the worst ordeal of their absoloute life and losing their daughter is one thing, but to be then accused of being the murderers is even worse for them, they do derseve a load and having a kidnapping film delayed from being released is okay for them and okay for many who sympathise with their situation and so many kids go missing all the time and this is respectful ai'nt it:sad: to release it now would be disrispectful ai'nt it, ya see:puzzled:

they are not banning evry kidnapping film are they:puzzled: they aRE temporary banning this movie only at the moment and like i explained above and many times in thread it is fair.

Edited by Sunny_01 - dressing up insults with smileys still makes them insults, any further and a warning will be issued

the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti and the Mcanns have won this battle and it was decided by decent people. remember the james bulger case and Childs Play 3 being banned and pulled off the shelves in respect, its same thing again but this movie is a new release and childs play 3 was an oldie so that dont matter as much i guess but i think it did matter to some but that was just tough tooti:bigsmile:

[Sunny_01]

Affleck delays release (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1283920,00.html)

If you read the above story you might find that it was actually the director (Ben Afflecks) decision not to release to film and is not about censorship at all. It is about human feelings around a highly sensitive issue.

I feel Affleck made the right decision, he would have been slated in the press in this country, the little girl in the film that goes missing is even called Madeline!! couldnt win with this one could he, its a shame but I am sure everyone will get to see it when he decides the time is right to release the film

[bananarama]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its limiting our freedom, just another step toward the "Big Brother" society

its a step towards decency, nothing more:bigsmile:

Controlling others freedom of choice without permission is not "decent". It is control freak arrogance....

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by Chewy
Its limiting our freedom, just another step toward the "Big Brother" society

its a step towards decency, nothing more:bigsmile:

Controlling others freedom of choice without permission is not "decent". It is control freak arrogance.... agreed, The Government are pushing the limits of "Freedom"

[geoking66]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by geoking66
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
Originally posted by bananarama
This argument that the film should be banned because it upsets some people is a no sense argument. The film can only upset you if you watch it. Simple solution is to air the film and those who are upset by it use a bit of common sense and don't watch it.

The most efficient censor is oneself.......A pity more people are not prepared to censor themselves instead of wanting to censor others.....

thats not good enough:sad: you could say that bout loads of things but they still ban films for a while for real good reasons. i mentioned (childs play 3) earlier and nobody remembered that or said anythin. my dad told me what happened and it was over James Bulger - i think thats how you spell it? two boys took one boy and killed him in the same way that Chucky did in childs play 3 dvd and said that they saw that movie then did the same thing, thats why films need banning for a while and in light of the Mcann case it is the right thing to do at the right time to

the censor argument from you wont matter, film is tempory banned and that is fair under the circumstances right

That's not good enough. Removing peoples rights to see or hear something that is legal can NEVER be right. If you don't like some thing that is legal censor oneself and leave other people alone to make their own choices.

it is good enough and its touch tooti for those who dont like that. it is out of respect for the Mcanns and thats fair and right and i believe that. you just want to watch a poxy kidnapping film and thats it

cant you wait a bit?

How many times can I say it, the McCanns don't deserve anything anyway. If we banned every movie that had something about abduction in it because some morons lost their kid, then none of those movies would be shown. This is utter bullcrap. This is a complete violation of people's rights for media to be accessible.

why dont the Mcanns deserve anything? i dont understand your opinion at all. the Mcanns have been through the worst ordeal of their absoloute life and losing their daughter is one thing, but to be then accused of being the murderers is even worse for them, they do derseve a load and having a kidnapping film delayed from being released is okay for them and okay for many who sympathise with their situation and so many kids go missing all the time and this is respectful ai'nt it:sad: to release it now would be disrispectful ai'nt it, you see:puzzled:

they are not banning evry kidnapping film are they:puzzled: they aRE temporary banning this movie only at the moment and like i explained above and many times in thread it is fair. you call them morons, but whos the real moron:xyxwave:

the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti and the Mcanns have won this battle and it was decided by decent people. remember the james bulger case and Childs Play 3 being banned and pulled off the shelves in respect, its same thing again but this movie is a new release and childs play 3 was an oldie so that dont matter as much i guess but i think it did matter to some but that was just tough tooti:bigsmile:

Almost everyone goes through something traumatic, just because the McCann's was publicised for no real reason doesn't mean that they should be treated like royalty. I used to have serious clinical depression (but not anyway), but it wouldn't be fair if they blocked a movie about people with depression just out of decency. I know that Ben Affleck was the one who blocked it, but it's still the same principle. Nothing should be blocked "out of respect." Parents like the McCanns who leave their children unattended really need to go to parenting classes or at least some sort of therapy because they have completely abdicated their responsibilities as parents.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti and the Mcanns have won this battle and it was decided by decent people. remember the james bulger case and Childs Play 3 being banned and pulled off the shelves in respect, its same thing again but this movie is a new release and childs play 3 was an oldie so that dont matter as much i guess but i think it did matter to some but that was just tough tooti:bigsmile:

Clearly I remember the Bulger case better than you

The Childs Play 3 scenario was seized on by the defence and by the newspapers, the movie was pulled, after the trial it emerged that they had never actually seen it, it was nothing at all about respect it was all about selling newsprint.

You describe Childs Play 3 as an "oldie" at the time of the Bulger Killing - it only shows you do not know what you are talking about - Childs Play 3 did not have a theatrical release in this country and not certified by the BBFC for video release until November 11 1992.

Childs Play 3 was released on video on 5th December 1992
James Bulger was killed on 12 February 1993

Not exactly an "oldie"


As for peoples rights mattering only to some, and if you object its "tough tooti" ?

thats the kind of self deception that killed six million jews

Welcome to the world where you show your ID card on demand and are willing to tell the government every aspect of your private life because they tell you its good for you - I'm sure you will love it

and just because you tart up the insults to forum members with various smileys... it doesn't stop it being an insult, though there are certain people who think it does.

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti and the Mcanns have won this battle and it was decided by decent people. remember the james bulger case and Childs Play 3 being banned and pulled off the shelves in respect, its same thing again but this movie is a new release and childs play 3 was an oldie so that dont matter as much i guess but i think it did matter to some but that was just tough tooti:bigsmile:

Clearly I remember the Bulger case better than you

The Childs Play 3 scenario was seized on by the defence and by the newspapers, the movie was pulled, after the trial it emerged that they had never actually seen it, it was nothing at all about respect it was all about selling newsprint.

You describe Childs Play 3 as an "oldie" at the time of the Bulger Killing - it only shows you do not know what you are talking about - Childs Play 3 did not have a theatrical release in this country and not certified by the BBFC for video release until November 11 1992.

Childs Play 3 was released on video on 5th December 1992
James Bulger was killed on 12 February 1993

Not exactly an "oldie"

As for peoples rights mattering only to some, and if you object its "tough tooti" ?

thats the kind of self deception that killed six million jews

Welcome to the world where you show your ID card on demand and are willing to tell the government every aspect of your private life because they tell you its good for you - I'm sure you will love it

and just because you tart up the insults to forum members with various smileys... it doesn't stop it being an insult, though there are certain people who think it does.

excuse me!!! i just said what i heard right and i heard that Childs play 3 was taken off the shelves as the james bulger case was very similar to what occured in the film childs play 3. also i heard that films dont get mentioned on the news at the same time as the bulger case for nothin and childsplay 3 was mentioned and even the picture of the video case was shown on the news and the director of the film was also interviewed so i heard

i am 19 so its oldie to me:bigsmile: and i dont know bout dates and stuff and i only know what i was told right. whats jews got to do with this discussion or id cards:puzzled: we dont have id cards but we do have a discussion on a banned kidnapping film and i brought up the Bulger case but you bring up somethin which is ridiculous? i always say tough tooti, its one of my favurite sayings okay. have you got some?

im not tarting anything up:puzzled: im having a discussion and your spoiling it by talking bout smilies:puzzled: i like smilies and i use them when i think it is apropriate,if someone complains i can always not use one or two, i used the angry one and i stopped that one a bit as it was upsetting im not taking orders from you when ive done nothin wrong:sad:

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy


excuse me!!! i just said what i heard right and i heard that Childs play 3 was taken off the shelves as the james bulger case was very similar to what occured in the film childs play 3. also i heard that films dont get mentioned on the news at the same time as the bulger case for nothin and childsplay 3 was mentioned and even the picture of the video case was shown on the news and the director of the film was also interviewed so i heard

i am 19 so its oldie to me:bigsmile: and i dont know bout dates and stuff and i only know what i was told right. whats jews got to do with this discussion or id cards:puzzled: we dont have id cards but we do have a discussion on a banned kidnapping film and i brought up the Bulger case but you bring up somethin which is ridiculous? i always say tough tooti, its one of my favurite sayings okay. have you got some?

Im not tarting anything up:puzzled: Im having a discussion and your spoiling it by talking bout smilies:puzzled: i like smilies and i use them when i think it is apropriate,if someone complains i can always not use one or two, i used the angry one and i stopped that one a bit as it was upsetting Im not taking orders from you when ive done nothin wrong:sad:

So you are 19, you tried to trivialise the pulling of a movie by using the Childs Play 3 example by inferring it was Ok as it was an "oldie".

At the time of the murder of James Bulger, which was the crux and the point of your argument excusing the pulling of a movie today you forgot or just plain did not know that at the time of the killing that movie was not an "oldie"

as for what Jews and ID cards have to do with it - it was an example, in a thread titled Censorship :

You said

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti


I take my rights very seriously thank you very much.

You may think its "tough tooti" to have your rights violated - but I don't.

My example, as it clearly went over your head, was about what happens when people flippantly allow their rights to be taken away

It is indeed a the kind of self deception that killed six million jews - because people allowed their rights to be slowly taken away, and that road leads to totalitarianism, and it always starts small.

The first thing the Nazi's targetted for action was movies, then newspapers, then books. and people stood by and allowed it to happen, people like you allowed their rights to be violated until so many of their rights had gone that they were powerless to do anything, except sit back and tacitly agree to mass murder. and it started small, with banning movies, the russians did it, the chinese did it, the first step in controlling a population is controlling the content of its entertainment - for whatever spurious reason they can latch onto. get their "friends" in the media publishing set to start campaigns, get their business cronies to lean on distributors.


One of the first movies the Nazi's banned was a movie called M - directed by Fritz lang. Its the story of a child murderer.

Sound familiar - well not quite, call it syzyrgy.


I'm not giving you "orders" - I'm calling you on foolish and childish and ignorant comments, on giving an example of something to excuse my rights being taken away, even the small right of being able to go to a cinema to see a movie, and not having a clue about the actual facts and circumstances of the very example you gave to excuse it.

and as for the smilies - you have been insulting people and dressing up the insults in smilies - do you actually think no-one will notice the insults if you end it with :xyxwave: or :thumbs:

Obviously you do.

A discussion is not a discussion when one resorts to insult, and then cowardly and childishly ends the insult with :xyxwave: but I guess sticking your tongue out and running away is difficult to do with any kind of effectiveness when you are online .

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy


excuse me!!! i just said what i heard right and i heard that Childs play 3 was taken off the shelves as the james bulger case was very similar to what occured in the film childs play 3. also i heard that films dont get mentioned on the news at the same time as the bulger case for nothin and childsplay 3 was mentioned and even the picture of the video case was shown on the news and the director of the film was also interviewed so i heard

i am 19 so its oldie to me:bigsmile: and i dont know bout dates and stuff and i only know what i was told right. whats jews got to do with this discussion or id cards. we dont have id cards but we do have a discussion on a banned kidnapping film and i brought up the Bulger case but you bring up somethin which is ridiculous? i always say tough tooti, its one of my favurite sayings okay. have you got some?

Im not tarting anything up:puzzled: Im having a discussion and your spoiling it by talking bout smilies. i like smilies and i use them when i think it is apropriate,if someone complains i can always not use one or two, i used the angry one and i stopped that one a bit as it was upsetting Im not taking orders from you when ive done nothin wrong:sad:

So you are 19, you tried to trivialise the pulling of a movie by using the Childs Play 3 example by inferring it was Ok as it was an "oldie".

At the time of the murder of James Bulger, which was the crux and the point of your argument excusing the pulling of a movie today you forgot or just plain did not know that at the time of the killing that movie was not an "oldie"

as for what Jews and ID cards have to do with it - it was an example, in a thread titled Censorship :

You said

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti


I take my rights very seriously thank you very much.

You may think its "tough tooti" to have your rights violated - but I don't.

My example, as it clearly went over your head, was about what happens when people flippantly allow their rights to be taken away

It is indeed a the kind of self deception that killed six million jews - because people allowed their rights to be slowly taken away, and that road leads to totalitarianism, and it always starts small.

The first thing the Nazi's targetted for action was movies, then newspapers, then books. and people stood by and allowed it to happen, people like you allowed their rights to be violated until so many of their rights had gone that they were powerless to do anything, except sit back and tacitly agree to mass murder. and it started small, with banning movies, the russians did it, the chinese did it, the first step in controlling a population is controlling the content of its entertainment - for whatever spurious reason they can latch onto. get their "friends" in the media publishing set to start campaigns, get their business cronies to lean on distributors.


One of the first movies the Nazi's banned was a movie called M - directed by Fritz lang. Its the story of a child murderer.

Sound familiar - well not quite, call it syzyrgy.


I'm not giving you "orders" - I'm calling you on foolish and childish and ignorant comments, on giving an example of something to excuse my rights being taken away, even the small right of being able to go to a cinema to see a movie, and not having a clue about the actual facts and circumstances of the very example you gave to excuse it.

and as for the smilies - you have been insulting people and dressing up the insults in smilies - do you actually think no-one will notice the insults if you end it with :xyxwave: or :thumbs:

Obviously you do.

A discussion is not a discussion when one resorts to insult, and then cowardly and childishly ends the insult with :xyxwave: but I guess sticking your tongue out and running away is difficult to do with any kind of effectiveness when you are online .

i was saying that Childs play 3 was an oldie as i am 19 and it seemed apropriate to say because of that and nothin more -before you analyse any further fine. i did say that the movie was pulled/banned due to the Bulger case - which was correct from what i had heard okay. there is nothing trivial bout the whole two incidents. no way man:sad: in both cases there was children involved and Childsplay 3 was some poxy horror film which was temporrarily banned at that time which was indeed apropriate under those particular circumstances and those were - the poor taste of having that movie stayed on the shelves of video libraries at that time. at the moment they wish to tempory ban this new kidnapping movie and it is a fair decision as it is only some poxy kidnapping film and so what - if it gets placed back a bit and gets a temopory ban, it is right due to the feelings of the Mcanns, their friends, those who are sympathetic to their situation, and so fourth. there are going to be problems with that decision but thats just tough tooty like i said

i said (the violation of peoples rights) in the thread, true- titled (censorship) i was discussing the tempory banning of this kidnapping movie and simply mentioned Childs play 3 as it was a film from the past which i said oldie to, i know its not ancient it was a figure of speech i guess but you go back to the older days and talk bout black and white film:puzzled: okay that is older fair enough but hardly wins anyroad. my example stands fair:bigsmile: Childs play was a tempory/banned movie at the time but on video then and today it is cinema and then onto dvd. also you go on bout jews and nazis and i understand your similarities you are bringing into this discussion but i dont think that the person or persons giving the orders for the present kidnapping film to be tempory banned will take any of that into account. they just tempory ban it and thats ay okay with them and in my opinion, tought toootie to those who cant wait. i say wait a bit as its respectful okay. also the Fritz lang film does ring familiar as you said it was due to a child murderer that that is familiar terrortory ill grant you

you taking this discussion way over proportion with you criticise my use of smilies. if you have claimed to pick up on some sort of smily attack in my replies you have got it all wrong. a smily is a fun thing to add in a post and that is why they are freely there to use as and wish someone chooses to. it is not an insult as you read it, it is just the way i choose to place it in a reply,my reply and that felt fine at the time so what. you can always use it in your reply to me deary. you say bout sticking my tongue out n running away and when i am being effective and when i am on line and the difference it makes, my god you do knitpick at stuff. lucky members are doing this for theirs pleasure. but like i said earlier, some spoil it by getting to serious and you do aparently and pick on smilies which is a bit strange id thought

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
and pick on smilies which is a bit strange:puzzled: id thought

Would seem I'm not the only one

[KissyLittleMissy]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by KissyLittleMissy
and pick on smilies which is a bit strange:puzzled: id thought

Would seem I'm not the only one

okay, i take yours and moderators points as i dont want a warning for using smilies:sad: i have edited any which may offend in my earlier reply to you- i thought i could use them as they were there to be used, but i see other members use them on other threads and it was okay, oh well i guess thats tough tooti to me then? if it is offending i shall only use a couple of nice ones or confused or sad ones:flowers::flower::wavey::elephant:

[12bigbrother12]

Banning the movie was pathetic

[cujo-man]

Down with censorship! :devil: