Is BB UK the best in the world?

[cujo-man]

I've heard that BB UK is actually considered the best BB worldwide.

I've only seen one foreign BB, which was BB8 US. Not really the same show- AT ALL! Still it was better than ours this year (but nothing compared to the other years).

I've also been told that even BB8 in the UK is considered and excellent series by other countries. I wonder what they'd think of BB3, 5 and 7!

I think ours is the best, but I hear alot of people in this country complain about it. But I'm sure every country moans about how fixed and rubbish their BB is. A world of moaners!

So has anyone else heard the same, that BBUK is the most poplular and best out of all BBs?

[Captain.Remy]

Well we can't confirm it's the best but most of the countries did adopt the twists (bedsit, secret garden, golden ticket, BigBrotherHood, evil side) and even the logo, the opening titles and the house (Serbian BB).
We can say it's the most creative one !

[Harry!]

it is defo the best bb in the world[uk]!!!!!!!!!!

[Retroman]

One country did a Big Brother that was meant to last forever?
When someone was evicted, someone else went into the house.
So if the public liked you, you could potentially end up living there forever.

I heard it lasted for a year, but ive never watched it myself.
Sounds interesting though..but id definitely class UK Big Brother as the best.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Well we can't confirm it's the best but most of the countries did adopt the twists (bedsit, secret garden, golden ticket, BigBrotherHood, evil side) and even the logo, the opening titles and the house (Serbian BB).
We can say it's the most creative one !

Sounds like we've came up with the best ideas!

That probably means BBUK is the best as the other countries have to steal our excellent twists!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Well we can't confirm it's the best but most of the countries did adopt the twists (bedsit, secret garden, golden ticket, BigBrotherHood, evil side) and even the logo, the opening titles and the house (Serbian BB).
We can say it's the most creative one !

Sounds like we've came up with the best ideas!

That probably means BBUK is the best as the other countries have to steal our excellent twists!

Yes we has brilliant twists but as I watch every single Big Brother, I can't confirm it's the best as all of them are really different. i love the US and the Aussie ones too.

And for Retroman, I did watch a little bit of BB Germany 6: The Village, that was awesome but they stopped it as the rating weren't good at the end.

[BB8:(]

Room 101 has been copyied

[Ruth*Star]

Nah BBusa is, the interesting players don't go early, they actually play a game, and they have more interesting twists.
i've watched it for one year and like it more than uk.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Ruth*Star
Nah BBusa is, the interesting players don't go early, they actually play a game, and they have more interesting twists.
i've watched it for one year and like it more than uk.

No, but I read on another forum (not saying which one of course :whistle:) that all other countries considered ours the best BB.

Its more of a factual answer over an opinion I want (although I am interested in what people have to say).

I'm not sure BBUS is in the same league as any country in terms of popularity. Its not such a big deal over there. I think they're more into Surivivor. Also BBUSA is a completely differnet show altogether!

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Well we can't confirm it's the best but most of the countries did adopt the twists (bedsit, secret garden, golden ticket, BigBrotherHood, evil side) and even the logo, the opening titles and the house (Serbian BB).
We can say it's the most creative one !

Sounds like we've came up with the best ideas!

That probably means BBUK is the best as the other countries have to steal our excellent twists!

Yes we has brilliant twists but as I watch every single Big Brother, I can't confirm it's the best as all of them are really different. i love the US and the Aussie ones too.

And for Retroman, I did watch a little bit of BB Germany 6: The Village, that was awesome but they stopped it as the rating weren't good at the end.

Also you told me you thought BBUK was the best and BB5 was your favourite.

[no1bigbrofan]

i love it i also like bb us

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man


Also you told me you thought BBUK was the best and BB5 was your favourite.

My fave is BB UK and BB5 ismy fave BB UK but overall I can't choose, they are like my kids lol

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man


Also you told me you thought BBUK was the best and BB5 was your favourite.

My fave is BB UK and BB5 ismy fave BB UK but overall I can't choose, they are like my kids lol

Will you be so kind as to share your children and post some links to them on the Foreign BB Links Thread?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man


Also you told me you thought BBUK was the best and BB5 was your favourite.

My fave is BB UK and BB5 ismy fave BB UK but overall I can't choose, they are like my kids lol

Will you be so kind as to share your children and post some links to them on the Foreign BB Links Thread?

Yes sure:

Click if you want to know everything about Big Brother. (http://www.worldofbigbrother.com/)
Or Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(TV_series))

Gran Hermano Argentina 5 (http://gh5.telefe.com.ar/canales/GH5/GH5.html)
Big Brother Africa 2 (http://www.mnetafrica.com/bigbrother/default.asp)
Big Brother Finland 3 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/)
Big Brother Poland 4 (http://bb4.tivi.pl/Portal/Default.aspx)
Big Brother Croatia 4 (http://www.bigbrother.rtl.hr/)
Gran Hermano Spain 9 (http://www.granhermano.telecinco.es/)
Big Brother Serbia 2 (http://www.velikibrat.co.yu/)

Have fun ! :thumbs:

[xXxCharlottexXx]

OF COURSE OURS IS THE BEST DEFO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man


Also you told me you thought BBUK was the best and BB5 was your favourite.

My fave is BB UK and BB5 ismy fave BB UK but overall I can't choose, they are like my kids lol

Will you be so kind as to share your children and post some links to them on the Foreign BB Links Thread?

Yes sure:

Click if you want to know everything about Big Brother. (http://www.worldofbigbrother.com/)
Or Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(TV_series))

Gran Hermano Argentina 5 (http://gh5.telefe.com.ar/canales/GH5/GH5.html)
Big Brother Africa 2 (http://www.mnetafrica.com/bigbrother/default.asp)
Big Brother Finland 3 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/)
Big Brother Poland 4 (http://bb4.tivi.pl/Portal/Default.aspx)
Big Brother Croatia 4 (http://www.bigbrother.rtl.hr/)
Gran Hermano Spain 9 (http://www.granhermano.telecinco.es/)
Big Brother Serbia 2 (http://www.velikibrat.co.yu/)

Have fun ! :thumbs:

Whoa! Thanks! :xyxwave:

[Captain.Remy]

Next Big Brother series for 2007:

Loft Story 4 Canada (Next Wednesday) and Celebrity Big Brother Philippines 2 (October) :thumbs:

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Next Big Brother series for 2007:

Loft Story 4 Canada (Next Wednesday) and Celebrity Big Brother Philippines 2 (October) :thumbs:

Loft Story- is this in English?

Where can I watch these?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Next Big Brother series for 2007:

Loft Story 4 Canada (Next Wednesday) and Celebrity Big Brother Philippines 2 (October) :thumbs:

Loft Story- is this in English?

Where can I watch these?

No LOft Story takes place in the french part of Canada.
You can watch them by Torrents, Youtube, Dailymotion and Veoh.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Next Big Brother series for 2007:

Loft Story 4 Canada (Next Wednesday) and Celebrity Big Brother Philippines 2 (October) :thumbs:

Loft Story- is this in English?

Where can I watch these?

No LOft Story takes place in the french part of Canada.
You can watch them by Torrents, Youtube, Dailymotion and Veoh.

Arghhhh . . . . Why did it have to be French! :mad:

I really can't work torrents, use veoh or find any of them on Youtube. Could you give me some links?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man

Arghhhh . . . . Why did have to be French! :mad:

I really can't work torrents, use veoh or find any of them on Youtube. Could you give me some links?

haha Yes you had to be french, bad luck !
Torrents is the easier way to watch it but well I don't use Youtube and Veoh much so I can't give you any links on youtube.

[Arneldo]

It's all down to personal opinion really. but I know some Australians who give u watching their BB to watch the UK one.

I do think it's fair to say that BBUK is one of the most original Big brother's, along with BBUS and maybe BBGER.

[Redmond]

I always thought BBUK was the best, I'd seen a few clips of international BB's and didn't think they were much cop. BB2-BB6 was BBUK's best run (excluding BB4), each series had entertaining housemates, twists and tasks. BB6 started to show cracks in the format but due to some interesting housemates like Makosi and Science the series was considered a success.

BB7 is where it started crumbling in my opinion. Far too many housemates, too many wannabees, it became more about celebrity than ever before. Over-the-top twists that a lot of the time fell flat. And also the most manipulation by the producers out of any series so far.

Then BB8 was just an all around failure. And because of this I decided finally check out our 'brothers' across the pond and I started watching BBUSA Season 8 and it really blew me away, it was so different in terms of the 'game', people actually cared about been there, they wanted to win the show and wasn't afraid to admit it. They had alliances, game plans and strategy..all of which wasn't frowned upon like some horrible sin. Bitching, backstabbing and side-deals where all involved and it also had some very entertaining housemates, some decent twists and a whole lot of fun.

Since BBUSA Season 8 finished, I've watched BBUSA Season 2 and I enjoyed that just as much. The whole format is just totally better than ours, it's more of a competition where you want to win and aren't lambasted for admitting so.

I'd still say the best BB's are BB3 and BB5 UK but I would very much welcome the BBUSA format adapted into our series in the future.

Oh and another thing BB3 and BB5 are usually considered the best UK Big Brother's. And why do I think this is? Because like BBUSA it had alliances and groups working against each other and trying to play the game, especially in BB5 with the Jungle Cats and the Lip-Gloss Bitches. BB3 not as much so, but the Rich/Poor divide certainly was a big selling point to that series.
So it looks like that is the way to go to make BBUK entertaining again, make it about forming alliances and strategy.

[Nath]

Theres a house that copied our BB6 DR chair

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Arneldo
It's all down to personal opinion really. but I know some Australians who give u watching their BB to watch the UK one.

I do think it's fair to say that BBUK is one of the most original Big brother's, along with BBUS and maybe BBGER.

BB Germany and BBUS have 2 different formats from BBUK but nobody did copy any of them.
Loads of countries did copy the UK version with the bedsit, a classic twist now, the secret garden, the golden ticket and the evil touch.

There is no definition of the "Best Big Brother" but ont thing is sure BBUK is one of the best.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by BigBrothersLittlePod
I always thought BBUK was the best, I'd seen a few clips of international BB's and didn't think they were much cop. BB2-BB6 was BBUK's best run (excluding BB4), each series had entertaining housemates, twists and tasks. BB6 started to show cracks in the format but due to some interesting housemates like Makosi and Science the series was considered a success.

BB7 is where it started crumbling in my opinion. Far too many housemates, too many wannabees, it became more about celebrity than ever before. Over-the-top twists that a lot of the time fell flat. And also the most manipulation by the producers out of any series so far.

Then BB8 was just an all around failure. And because of this I decided finally check out our 'brothers' across the pond and I started watching BBUSA Season 8 and it really blew me away, it was so different in terms of the 'game', people actually cared about been there, they wanted to win the show and wasn't afraid to admit it. They had alliances, game plans and strategy..all of which wasn't frowned upon like some horrible sin. Bitching, backstabbing and side-deals where all involved and it also had some very entertaining housemates, some decent twists and a whole lot of fun.

Since BBUSA Season 8 finished, I've watched BBUSA Season 2 and I enjoyed that just as much. The whole format is just totally better than ours, it's more of a competition where you want to win and aren't lambasted for admitting so.

I'd still say the best BB's are BB3 and BB5 UK but I would very much welcome the BBUSA format adapted into our series in the future.

Oh and another thing BB3 and BB5 are usually considered the best UK Big Brother's. And why do I think this is? Because like BBUSA it had alliances and groups working against each other and trying to play the game, especially in BB5 with the Jungle Cats and the Lip-Gloss Bitches. BB3 not as much so, but the Rich/Poor divide certainly was a big selling point to that series.
So it looks like that is the way to go to make BBUK entertaining again, make it about forming alliances and strategy.

BB7 is almost as popular as BB5 and 3. People on these forum's opinions are a lot different from the GBP. I will admit that BB3 and 5 are most successful and popular, but considering BB7 was 3rd most watched I really don't see hoe you can say thats when cracks started showing. It was really popular. BB6 was way off it in popularity!

I hate how people say this is the end of BB for me after 1 bad b****y series! I mean come on. BB4 was awful, but a year later and we get BB5. So the way I see it one bad series of BB shouldn't really put you off!

BB9 will probably be amazing and you'll all be eating your words!:elephant:

[Wasted]

Originally posted by BigBrothersLittlePod
I always thought BBUK was the best, I'd seen a few clips of international BB's and didn't think they were much cop. BB2-BB6 was BBUK's best run (excluding BB4), each series had entertaining housemates, twists and tasks. BB6 started to show cracks in the format but due to some interesting housemates like Makosi and Science the series was considered a success.

BB7 is where it started crumbling in my opinion. Far too many housemates, too many wannabees, it became more about celebrity than ever before. Over-the-top twists that a lot of the time fell flat. And also the most manipulation by the producers out of any series so far.

Then BB8 was just an all around failure. And because of this I decided finally check out our 'brothers' across the pond and I started watching BBUSA Season 8 and it really blew me away, it was so different in terms of the 'game', people actually cared about been there, they wanted to win the show and wasn't afraid to admit it. They had alliances, game plans and strategy..all of which wasn't frowned upon like some horrible sin. Bitching, backstabbing and side-deals where all involved and it also had some very entertaining housemates, some decent twists and a whole lot of fun.

Since BBUSA Season 8 finished, I've watched BBUSA Season 2 and I enjoyed that just as much. The whole format is just totally better than ours, it's more of a competition where you want to win and aren't lambasted for admitting so.

I'd still say the best BB's are BB3 and BB5 UK but I would very much welcome the BBUSA format adapted into our series in the future.

Oh and another thing BB3 and BB5 are usually considered the best UK Big Brother's. And why do I think this is? Because like BBUSA it had alliances and groups working against each other and trying to play the game, especially in BB5 with the Jungle Cats and the Lip-Gloss Bitches. BB3 not as much so, but the Rich/Poor divide certainly was a big selling point to that series.
So it looks like that is the way to go to make BBUK entertaining again, make it about forming alliances and strategy.

I agree with everything you said. BBUK hasn't been as enjoyable for me ever since BB6, because since then we've had too many housemates, no original twists and twists that have fell flat on their face. The housemates themselves are boring, and more than half of them are more interested in exposure and not actually being there. I hope BB9 will be great.

BB5 was so brilliant and one of the reasons was because of the dynamics of that series, and the divide between the LGB's and the Junglecats. We had gameplayers as well who admitted they were playing a game (Victor & Jason). And it was the same in BB6, well, we had Makosi who is probably the best gameplayer our version has seen but she never actually told us she was playing a game like Victor did, probably because game-playing is frowned upon in our version.

And I love both but sometimes I think the US version is better, ever since I began watching it last year. The tasks/competitions are better, more challenging, and very well designed. The housemates they choose are better than the housemates we've had in the last two series. And it's treated as a competition and the housemates actually want to be there, and they want to win it and get as far as they can because they're not just in it for exposure.

As well as that, BBUS is a whole lot less predictable as the dynamics, alliances and strategies can completely change in just one day/week.

I would also love to see the US format adapted over here, even if it was adapted into a completely seperate show from Big Brother with completely different producers so that the original version could still be played during the summer.

[dtd2]

As an American I will say that with towards formats that Big Brother UK is the best, but in terms of twists with like pitting the houseguests against each other the US is the best. The American twists have been copied numerous times. Where do you think Australia came up with the format for Friday Night Live (At least the current version of it), the American head of household competition of course and many other nations use that also. The Australians and a few other nations have also used twins switching places. The Dutch and a couple of other nations have used the format with people knowing another person like in season 6 of the American version.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by dtd2
As an American I will say that with towards formats that Big Brother UK is the best, but in terms of twists with like pitting the houseguests against each other the US is the best. The American twists have been copied numerous times. Where do you think Australia came up with the format for Friday Night Live (At least the current version of it), the American head of household competition of course and many other nations use that also. The Australians and a few other nations have also used twins switching places. The Dutch and a couple of other nations have used the format with people knowing another person like in season 6 of the American version.

BBUK has been copied more though.

[antos]

Originally posted by Nath
Theres a house that copied our BB6 DR chair
That would be ours. And the chair is a cheap copy at that.

Anyhow, for what I've been able to watch, I really liked BB UK 3. And as a whole I like the Aussie BB the best. And I just love Gretel, if presenters can be included. :love:

The only ones (besides Finland), that I've seen the whole seasons are UK 3&4.

[dtd2]

I think that the head of household twist is probably the most copied format in the world and the veto is quickly catching up behind it.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by dtd2
I think that the head of household twist is probably the most copied format in the world and the veto is quickly catching up behind it.

No its not. BBUK's bedsit is aswell as the evil theme.

Also BBUSA is actually nowhere near as popular as BBUK- its not even a contender!

[cujo-man]

Plus the UK has made international headlines more! :colour:

[JeanP!]

I think Spanish Big Brother is the best in the world, i´m loving it:love:, Big Brother Bulgaria and Big Brother Brazil are really good too

http://worldofbigbrother.com/Spa/9/pics/GH9Spa-Logo.jpg
http://worldofbigbrother.com/Bra/7/pics/BB7Bra-Logo.jpg
http://worldofbigbrother.com/Bul/3/pics/BB3Bul-logo2.jpg

[Captain.Remy]

Actually the Head of Household, the 1 & 2 points nominations and the Bedsit are the most popular twists all around the world.

[Redmond]

Originally posted by cujo_man
Originally posted by dtd2
I think that the head of household twist is probably the most copied format in the world and the veto is quickly catching up behind it.

No its not. BBUK's bedsit is aswell as the evil theme.

Also BBUSA is actually nowhere near as popular as BBUK- its not even a contender!

We're not just talking about which is most 'popular' though, we're talking about which series we think is the best all round, that could be for a number of a different reasons.

The US format is really good and very compelling to watch, give it a chance, don't just write it off, I did for ages and finally watched it this year and it was amazing. So I urge you to give it a watch.

Also I'm glad to see that the Head Of Household is one of the most copied gimmicks, hopefully that means there's a high chance of BBUK adapting it into BB9. It would definitely work having a HOH each week who gets luxuries as well as power over nominations (although in ours I don't think the HOH should be the only person to nominate but I think the HOH gets to place one housemate up for eviction automatically) That way you'd get people scheming and backstabbing.

BBUSA invented the "Big Brother Slop" idea too right? And also the drinking various food squished into a smoothie?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : BigBrothersLittlePod

Also I'm glad to see that the Head Of Household is one of the most copied gimmicks, hopefully that means there's a high chance of BBUK adapting it into BB9. It would definitely work having a HOH each week who gets luxuries as well as power over nominations (although in ours I don't think the HOH should be the only person to nominate but I think the HOH gets to place one housemate up for eviction automatically) That way you'd get people scheming and backstabbing.

If BBUk wanted to adapt the Head or Household or the 1-2 point nominations twist, they would have done it for ages.
The producers want to keep their creativity, they see that all their twists are some huge success, they will continue to improve and won't be copycats.
Last task adapted in Serbia: the Middle-Age task.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by BigBrothersLittlePod
Originally posted by cujo_man
Originally posted by dtd2
I think that the head of household twist is probably the most copied format in the world and the veto is quickly catching up behind it.

No its not. BBUK's bedsit is aswell as the evil theme.

Also BBUSA is actually nowhere near as popular as BBUK- its not even a contender!

We're not just talking about which is most 'popular' though, we're talking about which series we think is the best all round, that could be for a number of a different reasons.

The US format is really good and very compelling to watch, give it a chance, don't just write it off, I did for ages and finally watched it this year and it was amazing. So I urge you to give it a watch.

Also I'm glad to see that the Head Of Household is one of the most copied gimmicks, hopefully that means there's a high chance of BBUK adapting it into BB9. It would definitely work having a HOH each week who gets luxuries as well as power over nominations (although in ours I don't think the HOH should be the only person to nominate but I think the HOH gets to place one housemate up for eviction automatically) That way you'd get people scheming and backstabbing.

BBUSA invented the "Big Brother Slop" idea too right? And also the drinking various food squished into a smoothie?

I do actually really enjoy BBUSA. Its refreshing, but I don't see it as BB in reality. It is a completely different show.

The annoying thing about BBUA is the whole cheesiness of it and the whole over-editing with music montages. Also BB should never have a score to it.

I think BBUK is definitely more original and has way better twists and tasks.

I have definitely heard that foreign people think UK is the best- as I have already said they think BB8 is a good series, BB8 for chrissakes!

[Captain.Remy]

Yes BBUK is a reference for the other countries, that's true.
But as a BB specialist and foreign BBs huge fan, I can say the others are creative, they try to improve, they have some different goals, new type of stereotypes.

All the series are enjoyable.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Yes BBUK is a reference for the other countries, that's true.
But as a BB specialist and foreign BBs huge fan, I can say the others are creative, they try to improve, they have some different goals, new type of stereotypes.

All the series are enjoyable.

I wish I spoke as many languages as you!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo_man


I wish I spoke as many languages as you!

Well I didn't want to speak all those languages as french, english, russian and italian. They are my origins, I speak them fluently at home (except english).
Finally I can understand some more because my young sister speaks german and my old one, spanish. And I know some notions of them so it's cool.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : cujo_man


I wish I spoke as many languages as you!

Well I didn't want to speak all those languages as french, english, russian and italian. They are my origins, I speak them fluently at home (except english).
Finally I can understand some more because my young sister speaks german and my old one, spanish. And I know some notions of them so it's cool.

You're still lucky to have came from such a mixed background though. I wish I was. The only language I can speak is English and a bit of German!

[Captain.Remy]

Thanks, people here love to cheer me about that lol :whistle:

Well, BBUK is my fave all around the world but I'm not saying it's the best as all of them are deffo really different.

And I do agree with you that, in BBUSA, I'm completely lost, it's like a soap for me, it doesn't seem they live here 24/7. It's like if the producers say "Please everyone on the stage, we need to catch the nominations scene"

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30

And I do agree with you that, in BBUSA, I'm completely lost, it's like a soap for me, it doesn't seem they live here 24/7. It's like if the producers say "Please everyone on the stage, we need to catch the nominations scene"

Yea, it does have that sort of feeling to it.

[Redmond]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Message original : BigBrothersLittlePod

Also I'm glad to see that the Head Of Household is one of the most copied gimmicks, hopefully that means there's a high chance of BBUK adapting it into BB9. It would definitely work having a HOH each week who gets luxuries as well as power over nominations (although in ours I don't think the HOH should be the only person to nominate but I think the HOH gets to place one housemate up for eviction automatically) That way you'd get people scheming and backstabbing.

If BBUk wanted to adapt the Head or Household or the 1-2 point nominations twist, they would have done it for ages.
The producers want to keep their creativity, they see that all their twists are some huge success, they will continue to improve and won't be copycats.
Last task adapted in Serbia: the Middle-Age task.

I would've agreed 3 or 4 years ago but not now, the twists have been terrible in the past 2 or 3 BB's and the tasks..well don't even get me started, just no thought put into them at all. In BBUSA the tasks are well thought through and combine skill, endurance, strength and knowledge.

And with BBX coming up I see it quite plausible for BBUK to finally adopt the HOH twist and if it works in BBX then try it in BB9. They need to do something new after the disaster that was BB8.

Our series has come up with some great twists in the past but don't give them too much credit, they borrowed a fair amount from other countries. Like the rich/poor divide which was originally done in the third series of the Dutch BB. BBUSA was the first BB to have twins. BB Mexico and BB Spain did the housemate swap first..etc.

[Captain.Remy]

I do agree on the fact they picked some tasks but not a whole strategy of game and some people wouldn't see that. I mean personally, I like to see the housemates at the same stage.