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Billy
21-10-2007, 08:29 PM
Niki was good last night, but seriously, shes not gonna be as good as that. Wait till she gets an uptempo I swear she will be horrific.

Sam
21-10-2007, 08:30 PM
I agree i think ballads are her strong point, and she may have peaked too soon.

Billy
21-10-2007, 08:31 PM
Shes gonna be a Lakisha from Idol, great first performance, but cant see her doing good in the long run

Matt08
21-10-2007, 08:31 PM
She was a bit off track in certian places of the song, but her song made my evening last night. She was still great with the vocals. Niki to win!

Sam
21-10-2007, 08:35 PM
I can't see her winning it, i don't see who her audience is, i dont think she will sell many records in a long term career. Dont get me wrong i love her, but i cant see her having a string of number ones.

XxShortyxX
21-10-2007, 08:36 PM
I disagree. She was the best singer last night by a mile. I think if you give her any song she will sing it with out any mistakes. She has the best voice IMO, the only thing that's going to stop her from winning is the people who are voting, i.e the teenage girls, who will be voting the guys as they will tihnk they are fit.

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 08:39 PM
I agree you Shorty. :thumbs:

People like Andy and Daniel will make the top six because of their looks and decent enough voices. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both in the semi-final, to be quite honest. Andy was pleasant but boring last night. Daniel was dire.

Nicholas was appalling in XF2, but managed to get to seventh because he was attractive. :rolleyes:

Billy
21-10-2007, 08:40 PM
Nicholas was quite good at some songs

Matt
21-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Not as much of a letdown as Kimberley :tongue:

XxShortyxX
21-10-2007, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by TopzTom
I agree you Shorty. :thumbs:

People like Andy and Daniel will make the top six because of their looks and decent enough voices. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both in the semi-final, to be quite honest. Andy was pleasant but boring last night. Daniel was dire.

Nicholas was appalling in XF2, but managed to get to seventh because he was attractive. :rolleyes:


Exaclty, they may be good looking, but are dull, boring and really ent that good at singer. Where's Niki has a brilliant voice, and will only get better, like Leona last year. God knows how she managed to win, what with being a girl and all lol.

Some people out there who are voting need to look past someones looks, as X Factor ent about looks.

aj2463
21-10-2007, 08:43 PM
Well whatever She sings She's the best singer! xx

Billy
21-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Matt
Not as much of a letdown as Kimberley :tongue:

Given the song Kimberley was she done really well!

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Nicholas was quite good at some songs
I remember his only decent performance being 'I Believe I Can Fly' after being in the bottom two the previous week...

Matt
21-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Originally posted by Matt
Not as much of a letdown as Kimberley :tongue:

Given the song Kimberley was she done really well!

Yet she wasn't praised by the judges and was eliminated... :tongue:

Billy
21-10-2007, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by TopzTom
Originally posted by Billy
Nicholas was quite good at some songs
I remember his only decent performance being 'I Believe I Can Fly' after being in the bottom two the previous week...

Was still a good one. He was good on the tour aswell.

Matt she was praised by the judges? Even Simon said it was a compliment, and maybe if she had performed when the show was supposed to start things may have been differnet.

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Exaclty, they may be good looking, but are dull, boring and really ent that good at singer. Where's Niki has a brilliant voice, and will only get better, like Leona last year. God knows how she managed to win, what with being a girl and all lol.

Some people out there who are voting need to look past someones looks, as X Factor ent about looks.
Precisely... Looks get some people further than they should do by a long way - Nicholas, Ashley and Ray all spring to mind here (as well as this year's "hotties").

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Was still a good one. He was good on the tour aswell.

Matt she was praised by the judges? Even Simon said it was a compliment, and maybe if she had performed when the show was supposed to start things may have been differnet.
I went to see the tour and admit he was good... But he was nowhere near as good during the lives shows. Maybe it was nerves, maybe it wasn't - he still got further than he should have because of the 'young girl' voters.

XxShortyxX
21-10-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by TopzTom
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Exaclty, they may be good looking, but are dull, boring and really ent that good at singer. Where's Niki has a brilliant voice, and will only get better, like Leona last year. God knows how she managed to win, what with being a girl and all lol.

Some people out there who are voting need to look past someones looks, as X Factor ent about looks.
Precisely... Looks get some people further than they should do by a long way - Nicholas, Ashley and Ray all spring to mind here (as well as this year's "hotties").


But the guys this year ent even that hot lol. It's soooo annoying I can't stand shallow people lol

Billy
21-10-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by TopzTom
Originally posted by Billy
Was still a good one. He was good on the tour aswell.

Matt she was praised by the judges? Even Simon said it was a compliment, and maybe if she had performed when the show was supposed to start things may have been differnet.
I went to see the tour and admit he was good... But he was nowhere near as good during the lives shows. Maybe it was nerves, maybe it wasn't - he still got further than he should have because of the 'young girl' voters.

Yeah I agree kinda but hey what can ya do. I mean Maria got nowhere near as far as she should have

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
But the guys this year ent even that hot lol. It's soooo annoying I can't stand shallow people lol
If Futureproof looked like the huge group of students and sang like they do themselves, I doubt they'd even be in the live stages - they might get through a couple of weeks, but nowhere near as far as Futureproof will.

andybigbro
21-10-2007, 09:09 PM
I know she was Amazing Last Night, so i hope all go's well for her

TopzTom
21-10-2007, 09:12 PM
Anyways, I disagree with the opening post. Her perfromances:

'I Will Always Love You' - fantastic and suited her well.
'Natural Woman' - painful and didn't suit her voice.
'One Moment In Time' - good and suited her well.
'Nothing Compares To You' - fanominal and suited her voice suberbly (maybe a little safe).

We can only make judgements on her coming performances after we've heard them I guess - she seems to be on the money we she's singing Whitney...

GiRTh
22-10-2007, 12:56 PM
Her performance was awesome and it was efforltess. There was one point where she had to go up to a very high note then come staight down again. She did it with ease. She'll be like Melinda from AI. She's a natural.

beanny
22-10-2007, 12:59 PM
i loved her performance last night, and i think she will continue to do amazingly! X

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
Her performance was awesome and it was efforltess. There was one point where she had to go up to a very high note then come staight down again. She did it with ease. She'll be like Melinda from AI. She's a natural.


Yep, she sings with emotion, which is something none of the others do. Me thinks she is the next Leona Lewis, she ent as good as her, but she is defo like her.

Wasted
22-10-2007, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
Her performance was awesome and it was efforltess. There was one point where she had to go up to a very high note then come staight down again. She did it with ease. She'll be like Melinda from AI. She's a natural.

Melinda's in a whole different league to anyone in the X Factor this year, but I agree that Niki is like her in the sense that she is the most professional vocalist of the finalists.

I don't think Niki is a letdown. Her only bad audition was at boot camp, and she was very good on Saturday. She has a good vocal range, great control and her voice sounds great.

GiRTh
22-10-2007, 06:04 PM
I agree that Melinda is in a different league.

Niki has the control to be able to sing anything and make it look easy.

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
I agree that Melinda is in a different league.

Niki has the control to be able to sing anything and make it look easy.


Defo, like someone siad, she made that song look effectless. She will be able to sing anything and pull it off. She defo was the best on Saturday.

Callum
22-10-2007, 06:18 PM
I don't think she's a letdown at all. But like somebody said earlier, I think she's peaked too early.

TopzTom
22-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Good news, Niki fans - she's now the second favourite to win. :bigsmile:

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by TopzTom
Good news, Niki fans - she's now the second favourite to win. :bigsmile:


Yeah :bigsmile:

Hope is 1st ent they? I want either of them to win, but mainly Niki because she is a better singer then anyone.

TopzTom
22-10-2007, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Yeah :bigsmile:

Hope is 1st ent they? I want either of them to win, but mainly Niki because she is a better singer then anyone.
1. Hope.
2. Niki.
3. Futureproof.

The semi-finalists according to the bookies (at this stage).

Ruth*Star
22-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I don't think she was a let down, i think far from it, she was one of the best on saturday.

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Oh right, I really hope she wins, or at least comes 2nd! On Oddschecker she is 3rd fav 2 win, Futureproof is 2nd fav. They are rubbish! Niki is a million times better singer then them!

CassetteFinger
22-10-2007, 06:34 PM
She could be Andy re,eber his best was the first show and he kept gojng sown each week yet he came 2nd.

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Rice_Square
She could be Andy re,eber his best was the first show and he kept gojng sown each week yet he came 2nd.


Yeah he lost by 1 ponit. We all know Shayne only won because of his looks.

I think Niki could defo make it to the final.

Noel
22-10-2007, 06:59 PM
I know what you mean. She is great at ballads, but I do wonder if she will be good at up tempo songs. Im sure she will. She has an amazing voice which hopefully will be good at all types of song.

XxShortyxX
22-10-2007, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Noel
I know what you mean. She is great at ballads, but I do wonder if she will be good at up tempo songs. Im sure she will. She has an amazing voice which hopefully will be good at all types of song.


I think she will, like Leona last year, I am sure Niki could sing anything.

Billy
16-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Hate to drag up old threads, but I was kinda riiight

GiRTh
16-11-2007, 06:32 PM
She had two great performances first two weaks. I thoguht week 3 was OK and last weeks she was one of the best again. She's going to in the mix.

CassetteFinger
16-11-2007, 11:23 PM
Niki is very overrated i think she has had only one really good performance so far which was her first one the rest has been crap she is going down and down as the weeks go by.

Billy
16-11-2007, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
She had two great performances first two weaks. I thoguht week 3 was OK and last weeks she was one of the best again. She's going to in the mix.


She was flat and out of tune last week

Tom
17-11-2007, 11:37 AM
... then why did all the judges but Dannii give her good comments? And even still Dannii's comments was only to say it was the wrong song choice.

Her confidence is growing each week and we are always seeing a different side to her. The rest of the acts bar Rhydian are safe week in week out.

I don't really think an Alisha fan can call Niki rubbish ... :bigsmile:

dupin
17-11-2007, 12:45 PM
Niki definately peaked too early ;; technically, she was awful last week, I'll never understand the judges comments.

And I do quite like Niki, so I'm not being biased. I can't see her being great this week, but maybe she'll proove me wrong.

MarkWaldorf
17-11-2007, 12:46 PM
She can really only sing ballads. She might struggle again tonight if she doesn't sing it right.

Billy
17-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Tom__
... then why did all the judges but Dannii give her good comments? And even still Dannii's comments was only to say it was the wrong song choice.

Her confidence is growing each week and we are always seeing a different side to her. The rest of the acts bar Rhydian are safe week in week out.

I don't really think an Alisha fan can call Niki rubbish ... :bigsmile:

Actually an Alisha fan can. Alisha was better than Niki last week, Niki was out of tune, and flat.

Z
17-11-2007, 01:08 PM
Niki's definitely not been as good as her first performance, but she's not been bad either. She's been consistently better than at least some of the other acts each week, ergo she's still in.

Alisha on the other hand is absolute cack, and is only still in because Sharon only has her left and they like to make sure each of the judges has an act left going into the final two weeks.

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by MarkChap©
She can really only sing ballads. She might struggle again tonight if she doesn't sing it right. Didn't Leona win it last year by only singing ballads?

Niki's strongest performance was in the first week. I agree, but she's got the vocal ability to win this competition.

Tom
17-11-2007, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Originally posted by Tom__
... then why did all the judges but Dannii give her good comments? And even still Dannii's comments was only to say it was the wrong song choice.

Her confidence is growing each week and we are always seeing a different side to her. The rest of the acts bar Rhydian are safe week in week out.

I don't really think an Alisha fan can call Niki rubbish ... :bigsmile:

Actually an Alisha fan can. Alisha was better than Niki last week, Niki was out of tune, and flat.

Alisha is boring and forgettable. They are not giving her bad comments because they don't want Sharon without an act just yet, and some people are voting for Sharon, not Alisha. Some people will vote for her yes, but she has been at the top of the odds to go and the bottom of the odds to win lists, and if she was actually good and was better than Niki, then Niki wouldn't be second favourite to win.

Niki also has her own style whereas Alisha is a poor mans Corinne Bailey Rae crossed with a carbon copy of Gabrielle. Her performance last week was very Stars in their Eyes.

Because of You is a very hard song to sing.

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Tom__
Niki also has her own style whereas Alisha is a poor mans Corinne Bailey Rae crossed with a carbon copy of Gabrielle. Her performance last week was very Stars in their Eyes. LOL@Stars in their eyes.

I agree. Alisha does carbon copies of the songs she's given. Her Valerie the previous week was sung with exactly the same inflextion as Amy Winehouse

Billy
17-11-2007, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Tom__
Originally posted by Billy
Originally posted by Tom__
... then why did all the judges but Dannii give her good comments? And even still Dannii's comments was only to say it was the wrong song choice.

Her confidence is growing each week and we are always seeing a different side to her. The rest of the acts bar Rhydian are safe week in week out.

I don't really think an Alisha fan can call Niki rubbish ... :bigsmile:

Actually an Alisha fan can. Alisha was better than Niki last week, Niki was out of tune, and flat.

Alisha is boring and forgettable. They are not giving her bad comments because they don't want Sharon without an act just yet, and some people are voting for Sharon, not Alisha. Some people will vote for her yes, but she has been at the top of the odds to go and the bottom of the odds to win lists, and if she was actually good and was better than Niki, then Niki wouldn't be second favourite to win.

Niki also has her own style whereas Alisha is a poor mans Corinne Bailey Rae crossed with a carbon copy of Gabrielle. Her performance last week was very Stars in their Eyes.

Because of You is a very hard song to sing.


Because of you isnt that hard to sing. It has one big note which she messed up, she was out of tune and flat.

I don't get your comment about odds, so what? Nobody says Alisha is going to win, your the one that brought Alisha into it. Alisha also does have her own style, last week was nothing like the original

MarkWaldorf
17-11-2007, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by MarkChap©
She can really only sing ballads. She might struggle again tonight if she doesn't sing it right. Didn't Leona win it last year by only singing ballads?

Niki's strongest performance was in the first week. I agree, but she's got the vocal ability to win this competition.

No, she sang up-tempo numbers as well. She was just known for her amazing voice during ballads.

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by MarkChap©
No, she sang up-tempo numbers as well. She was just known for her amazing voice during ballads. LOL

No she didn't.

X Factor Last Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_Factor_%28UK_series_3%29)

Apart from Lady Marmalade, which is hardly the fastest song you'll ever get, I see all ballads.

Billy
17-11-2007, 03:16 PM
Could it be magic?

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Could it be magic? Not the Barry Manilow version. I can't remember which version she sang. I'll see if I can find it.

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 03:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irFH2E_n9Gg

Found it.

About a minutes worth of uptempo bookended by a slow version. OK I'll give you that one. Name another.

EDIT: There you go. I count 13 out of the 15 performances were ballads.

Billy
17-11-2007, 03:22 PM
I don't get your point? So what if shes done more ballads than up tempos?

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 03:27 PM
Someone claimed that Niki can only sing ballads. I pointed out that Leona lewis won the competition singing ballads in 13 out of her 15 performances. That person happened to be a fan of Leonas.

Billy
17-11-2007, 03:29 PM
but Leona proved she could do well with an uptemp song, niki hasnt

GiRTh
17-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Leona only sung one uptempo song. I'll give you Could it be magic but deep down I don't really think it counts. Niki has already taken more chances than Leona did throughout all last years competition.