BB5: Even Nadia fans have to admit it was designed for her to win.

[cujo-man]

BB5: The Final Night. Jason has just been named the runner-up of Big Brother UK 2004. The crowd boo. He tries taking it in his stride. The crowds boo in a violent manner at the slightest joke he makes against Nadia, which was in fact provoked by the interviewer, Davina McCall herself. This is the first piece of evidence (or "exhibit A") against the whole thing being fixed for a Portugese transexual to win. Why: After a dull BB a transexual (and foreign at that!) is shocking and controversial, yet at the same time it proves the BB audience can accept a different range of people, and that BB really isn't just an emontional slaughterhouse for wannabes.

[Conor]

All she did was moan about leaving if she didnt get ciggarettes. 1st place rightfully belonged to Jason or Victor. :shocked:

[cujo-man]

Exhibit A in its fullest glory. Watch and see that I am right-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzdBlJLIcis

[Captain.Remy]

I am so glad she won, a well deserving winner for once ! Go Nadia ! :colour:

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Conor
All she did was moan about leaving if she didnt get ciggarettes. 1st place rightfully belonged to Jason or Victor. :shocked:

Agreed.

The fact of the matter is that Jason and Victor were named the two housemates who legendarly saved BB.

This really doesn't add to my argument, but I thought I get that point across before I go on to make yet another long post.

[Captain.Remy]

On that topic, nobody is right you know, we won't have the answer on if it was axed or not. She won 3 years ago so I think it's time to get over it. Jason and Victor were such brilliant housemates, who did save BB with the rest of the housemates. The whole cast participated in what BB is nowadays.

[Jack]

She deserved to win. Channel 4 didn't need to do anything to fix it - the public could see for themselves she was a fantastic housemate.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Jack
She deserved to win. Channel 4 didn't need to do anything to fix it - the public could see for themselves she was a fantastic housemate.

Agreed ! She was fabulous ! Wooo Nadia ! :hugesmile:

[cujo-man]

BB3: Tim, the ginger has been evicted, finishing in 5th place. Davina sits Tim down on his seat. Its interview time. Tim and Jason share something hugley in common - their complete and utter vanity. Isn't it ironic that Davina interviews Tim and Jason in the same patronising tone and manner, while the producers are rolling reels of embarrasinf footage to see how they can handle it. Tim gets away better than Jason - laughing it off quite merrily to the best of his ability. Jason screws up by refusing to look. This is all against Jason. The whole interview was a charade to demolish Jason's character.

I would post the clip as I can't be bothered finding the specific one to use as the best example + Tim's interview is 2 8 minute clips.

[Arneldo]

BB5 was a fantastic series, and probably the most successful one (After BB3). Nadia deserved to win. She has genuine, honest, funny - the woman had a personality - More then Jason had. When I think of Jason I think of his miserable face laying in bed. Nadia gained momentum, as at the start she was one of the rank outsiders to win. The only reason Jason got second was because he was the "anti-nadia" vote. Fans of Nadia were also fans of Dan as well, with the majority preferring Nadia. Jason was the only option for the others. Shell was just a thier to fill in space.

[cujo-man]

BBBM UK 2004: The last episode. Welcome Exhibit C. My point about the interview. People could easily scream Davina had nothing against Jason, but how could someone with such compassion for Nadia not have some contempt for Jason - Remy is part of the minority and is quite evident she isn't overly fond of Jason. If you look at it, Davina shows such bias towards Nadia its ridiculous. She goes on about how much she loves her and why everyone else loves her - "Its her vurnebility" she says. I'm not sure if the presenters are allowed to show bias on spin-off show or not, so this point may not be very valid. But how does Davina get to potray such extreme bias on BBBM but when Dermott does it with Glyn/ Brian on BBLB he gets slaughtered?

Atleast Dermott never screamed "I love him!" in front of the cameras.

[Captain.Remy]

I agree with Aaron for the final night, it was like Samanda against Brian. he public didn't have an other option. I've supported both so for me, I didn't mind who was the winner.

[Wasted]

Originally posted by cujo-man


The fact of the matter is that Jason and Victor were named the two housemates who legendarly saved BB.


It's not fact... it's your opinion. Different people have different opinions on the housemates, some people think Nadia didn't deserve to win, some people think she did, but neither point view is a solid fact.

In my opinion, she did deserve to win, and in my opinion, Jason was a dull miserable moaning git. Victor was a brilliant housemate and a great villain and played his part well, but I don't think that Jason deserves any credit for providing lots of entertainment when he spent a lot of his time alone in the hut, applying tonnes of fake tan to himself and probably dying the ginger pubes he was so ashamed of.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Arneldo
BB5 was a fantastic series, and probably the most successful one (After BB3). Nadia deserved to win. She has genuine, honest, funny - the woman had a personality - More then Jason had. When I think of Jason I think of his miserable face laying in bed. Nadia gained momentum, as at the start she was one of the rank outsiders to win. The only reason Jason got second was because he was the "anti-nadia" vote. Fans of Nadia were also fans of Dan as well, with the majority preferring Nadia. Jason was the only option for the others. Shell was just a thier to fill in space.

See this is an interesting point. How do we not know that is wasn't edited against Jason? How come people claim that theres bias editing against loads of housemates - why do they only make this comment on housemates they like? Jason was the anti-Nadia vote who thought BB5 was getting fixed for Nadia. Thats what they were fighting against. Just because someone starts off as a rank outsider doesn't mean that it isn't manipualted for them - it just means they aren't an instant hit.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
I agree with Aaron for the final night, it was like Samanda against Brian. he public didn't have an other option. I've supported both so for me, I didn't mind who was the winner.

They did so have another option. In fact BB8 will probably go down as having the best final housemates after BB3.

[Conor]

I agree that Davina was so bias in BB5 with Nadia. It was the only time I wasn't sure if I liked Davs anymore or not.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Wasted
It's not fact... it's your opinion.

Its not just my opinion. It was said by many critics at the time.

[Captain.Remy]

Davina had all the rights to say that she loved Nadia. And her interview with Jason wasn't bad, Jason couldn't accept what he has done so it does explains that he didn't want to watch it. Nothing else.

[Wasted]

Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by Wasted
It's not fact... it's your opinion.

Its not just my opinion. It was said by many critics at the time.

Then it is also the opinion of the critics. But it's not fact.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man
Originally posted by Wasted
It's not fact... it's your opinion.

Its not just my opinion. It was said by many critics at the time.

Yes but it doesn't mean that we all agree with you and the critics. You should understand that people have different opinions instead of trying to make them thinking like you do.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Davina had all the rights to say that she loved Nadia. And her interview with Jason wasn't bad, Jason couldn't accept what he has done so it does explains that he didn't want to watch it. Nothing else.

She is not. She is not allowed to have any bias while the show is on as that is clear manipulation of the voting. Thats was agaisnt the rules, but since everyone was Nadia crazy they just tried sweeping it under the carpet.

And Jason was the housemate who got treated the worst in their interview by Davina after Makosi.

Davina led into many question she knew would get him booed.

And the annoying thing - Jason wasn't even allowed to make one joke about Nadia's laugh without getting booed heavily - godamm ridiculous!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Davina had all the rights to say that she loved Nadia. And her interview with Jason wasn't bad, Jason couldn't accept what he has done so it does explains that he didn't want to watch it. Nothing else.

She is not. She is not allowed to have any bias while the show is on as that is clear manipulation of the voting. Thats was agaisnt the rules, but since everyone was Nadia crazy they just tried sweeping it under the carpet.

And Jason was the housemate who got treated the worst in their interview by Davina after Makosi.

Davina led into many question she knew would get him booed.

And the annoying thing - Jason wasn't even allowed to make one joke about Nadia's laugh without getting booed heavily - godamm ridiculous!

The votes were closed when Jason was interviwed by Davina you know :rolleyes:
And if people wanted to boo him because he makes a joke about Nadia, where is the problem ? You have a big problem about opinions actually.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Yes but it doesn't mean that we all agree with you and the critics. You should understand that people have different opinions instead of trying to make them thinking like you do.

Fair enough, but I'd say that Victor and Jason (because of Victor) being the main ingredients to saving BB.

P.S. Not trying to start and argument or anything like it. I just thought you were ignoring me.

[Conor]

Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by sunshine30
Davina had all the rights to say that she loved Nadia. And her interview with Jason wasn't bad, Jason couldn't accept what he has done so it does explains that he didn't want to watch it. Nothing else.

She is not. She is not allowed to have any bias while the show is on as that is clear manipulation of the voting. Thats was agaisnt the rules, but since everyone was Nadia crazy they just tried sweeping it under the carpet.

And Jason was the housemate who got treated the worst in their interview by Davina after Makosi.

Davina led into many question she knew would get him booed.

And the annoying thing - Jason wasn't even allowed to make one joke about Nadia's laugh without getting booed heavily - godamm ridiculous!

I know... Its called freedom of Housemates speach people. Its not Davinas show. Its the HMs!

It's also not her job to have favs and show it as obviously as possible.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man

Fair enough, but I'd say that Victor and Jason (because of Victor) being the main ingredients to saving BB.

P.S. Not trying to start and argument or anything like it. I just thought you were ignoring me.

Didn't you write the quote in bold ? Yes that's what I was thinking...:bigsmile:

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
The votes were closed when Jason was interviwed by Davina you know :rolleyes:
And if people wanted to boo him because he makes a joke about Nadia, where is the problem ? You have a big problem about opinions actually.

I know Jason was less popular, but that could mean it was fixed against him anyway.

The problem is there is no need. Booing is something I don't agree on and on the final night in particular its disgusting (re: Makosi). He makes one light-hearted joke about Nadia and its like a Roman arena. Jason lacked self-confidence (he didn't show it, but it is quite evident) and I don't think people realise how hurtful and humilating getting booed can be - particualary in the middle of your interview with your interviewer heckling you at the same time.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man
Originally posted by sunshine30
The votes were closed when Jason was interviwed by Davina you know :rolleyes:
And if people wanted to boo him because he makes a joke about Nadia, where is the problem ? You have a big problem about opinions actually.

I know Jason was less popular, but that could mean it was fixed against him anyway.

The problem is there is no need. Booing is something I don't agree on and on the final night in particular its disgusting (re: Makosi). He makes one light-hearted joke about Nadia and its like a Roman arena. Jason lacked self-confidence (he didn't show it, but it is quite evident) and I don't think people realise how hurtful and humilating getting booed can be - particualary in the middle of your interview with your interviewer heckling you at the same time.

But he had to think about it before instead of doing what he has done. He was a great player but unfortunatly for him, everybody didn't think like me, then he was booed.
And Makosi was an other problem, it's completely different.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just saying that you can't accept people's opinion and that you make your own one as a matter of fact. Your opinions aren't facts.

And no, I'm not ignoring you, you don't deserve it, it would be giving you too much attention.

I wasn't saying you were trying to start an argument. Think you misunderstood what I meant.

And how would it give me too much attention? :conf:You wouldn't be replying to what I said!

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
But he had to think about it before instead of doing what he has done. He was a great player but unfortunatly for him, everybody didn't think like me, then he was booed.
And Makosi was an other problem, it's completely different.

You praise Nadia for being honest and real and yet you say Jason should have thought what he was doing when hating the favourite?!

I'm intrigued to what you mean by Makosi being a completely different problem. Please eloborate.

[Magic]

Originally posted by cujo-man and that BB really isn't just an emontional slaughterhouse for wannabes.

There were barely any wannabees in BB5s time. They all emerged after BB6

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Magic-Shoes
There were barely any wannabees in BB5s time. They all emerged after BB6

You cannot deny that BB5 was the year they started putting wannabes in one purpose. Michelle Bass is one of the biggest wannabes to ever go on BB!

In the woman's words herself, the only reason she went on for was for any kind of publicity - good or bad, it didn't matter. Just getting known was the reason.

[Wasted]

Yeah but Michelle was probably the only wannabe in there, which isn't bad because it made her different to everyone else. These days they put in loads of wannabes in the same house so there's no variety in housemates at all.

[Magic]

Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by Magic-Shoes
There were barely any wannabees in BB5s time. They all emerged after BB6

You cannot deny that BB5 was the year they started putting wannabes in one purpose. Michelle Bass is one of the biggest wannabes to ever go on BB!

In the woman's words herself, the only reason she went on for was for any kind of publicity - good or bad, it didn't matter. Just getting known was the reason.

I see what you mean, but I still think Nadia winning was fair.

And Michelle is only one wannabel.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man
Originally posted by sunshine30
But he had to think about it before instead of doing what he has done. He was a great player but unfortunatly for him, everybody didn't think like me, then he was booed.
And Makosi was an other problem, it's completely different.

You praise Nadia for being honest and real and yet you say Jason should have thought what he was doing when hating the favourite?!

I'm intrigued to what you mean by Makosi being a completely different problem. Please eloborate.

It is a different problem. Makosi was booed because she was the biggest bitch that BBUK has never known. She lied, she has cheated and stuff....people did boo her for an other reason than the Jason's one.

[Billy]

BB5 would have been so much better if Emma would have been allowed to stay

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Billy
BB5 would have been so much better if Emma would have been allowed to stay

I think if Emma has stayed I may have shot my brains out.

[Billy]

Shame

[Magic]

Originally posted by Billy
BB5 would have been so much better if Emma would have been allowed to stay

During BB5 my friends were a big fan, and I just watched (I was in year seven), now I am a big fan, and they just watch.

Anyway, we made a BBE campaign! (Bring Back Emma)! Those were the days....

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Billy
Shame

Offence behaviour. :rolleyes:

[Conor]

Well.. this threads gone far in under an hour. Thats probably the only one possitive thing about it yet lol.

Still... JASON OR VICTOR SHOULD HAVE WON!!


I think that because Davina loved Nadia it swayed the public into liking Nadia , which isn't fair!

[Captain.Remy]

I just want to osay that I was so glad that they both made the final 2 and I didn't mind who was the winner.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Conor
Well.. this threads gone far in under an hour. Thats probably the only one possitive thing about it yet lol.

Still... JASON OR VICTOR SHOULD HAVE WON!!


I think that because Davina loved Nadia it swayed the public into liking Nadia , which isn't fair!

Agreed.

Isn't it funny how popular Nadia was and when Davina showed bias no-one cared.

When Dermott showed bias (to a lesser extent) towards the less loved Glyn and Brian everyone had their pitchforks ready.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by sunshine30
I just want to osay that I was so glad that they both made the final 2 and I didn't mind who was the winner.

In a sense thats a good thing because you had no need to worry, but in another sense its a bad thing as it made for less tense viewing.

[CassetteFinger]

URGH imagine if jason won now that would of been the worst winnr in bb history it wasent really made for her to win if she dident have a great personality like she did she wouldent of won look at the beginning she was a rank outsider but cause she showed how funny she was she won.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : cujo-man
Originally posted by sunshine30
I just want to osay that I was so glad that they both made the final 2 and I didn't mind who was the winner.

In a sense thats a good thing because you had no need to worry, but in another sense its a bad thing as it made for less tense viewing.

Maybe it was less intense viewing but for me, it was the best final 2 ever so I enjoyed it and I was happy for both of them.

[001steven]

She deserved to win...i voted for her because she was Funny,Entertainig and had a sense of humour..... It wasnt fixed how could it of been??? Jason was a VILE Bully Who dyed his hair so people couldnt NOTICE he was in FACT Ginger lol and Everyone i knew WANTED Nadia to win...so no it wasnt a fix

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by 001steven
She deserved to win...i voted for her because she was Funny,Entertainig and had a sense of humour..... It wasnt fixed how could it of been??? Jason was a VILE Bully Who dyed his hair so people couldnt NOTICE he was in FACT Ginger lol and Everyone i knew WANTED Nadia to win...so no it wasnt a fix

Can I just say that everyone wanted Brian to win and yet there was still screaming of it being a fix!

It could be manipulated. But of course when its the favourite everyone just tries sweeping that fact under the rug!

[Kristen]

Nadia was a great winner!
First BBUK winner I've actually been happy with.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Kristen
Nadia was a great winner!
First BBUK winner I've actually been happy with.

Thanks for proving my point! :bigsmile:

[001steven]

yeah Nadia is the ONLY BB HM that i have liked and WOn Brian winning..... Now that was a fix imo:tongue:

[Kristen]

Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by Kristen
Nadia was a great winner!
First BBUK winner I've actually been happy with.

Thanks for proving my point! :bigsmile:

How is that proving your point? :conf2:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Kristen
Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by Kristen
Nadia was a great winner!
First BBUK winner I've actually been happy with.

Thanks for proving my point! :bigsmile:

How is that proving your point? :conf2:

I guess that he also thinks she's great and he's happy she won.

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by sunshine30
I am so glad she won, a well deserving winner for once ! Go Nadia ! :colour:


I so agree!

Nadia was very funny in the house, let's not forget her taking a shower in her high heals :bigsmile: that was so funny. She entertained me and my mum all the way through, she got like 74% of the vote. The highest vote of all the BB's, none has beatten that.

Nadia, Brian (BB2) and Kate are the best winners, the rest are dull and boring winners. and Fake e.g Brian (BB8)

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : XxShortyxX
Originally posted by sunshine30
I am so glad she won, a well deserving winner for once ! Go Nadia ! :colour:


I so agree!

Nadia was very funny in the house, let's not forget her taking a shower in her high heals :bigsmile: that was so funny. She entertained me and my mum all the way through, she got like 74% of the vote. The highest vote of all the BB's, none has beatten that.

Nadia, Brian (BB2) and Kate are the best winners, the rest are dull and boring winners. and Fake e.g Brian (BB8)

Haha yes do agree too ! Nadia ripped it ! Her shower with high heals were so funny. :laugh2:

[XxShortyxX]

lol it was very funny, she was really fun and was a well desevered winner (IMO)

I remember when she won, Davina was nearly in tears, and some of the crowd were in tears, best BB winner moment ever!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : XxShortyxX
lol it was very funny, she was really fun and was a well desevered winner (IMO)

I remember when she won, Davina was nearly in tears, and some of the crowd were in tears, best BB winner moment ever!

Yes that night was amazing ! She was so happy but she didn't realise what happened.

[XxShortyxX]

Yes that night was amazing ! She was so happy but she didn't realise what happened. [/quote]


lol bless her, I was so glad she won. Noway was she boring.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : XxShortyxX
Yes that night was amazing ! She was so happy but she didn't realise what happened.


lol bless her, I was so glad she won. Noway was she boring. [/quote]

She was not boring at all ! Her Best Bits was deffo the best among the other winner's ones. Her shous, her cigarets, her mind and everything....she deserved it by far !

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
lol bless her, I was so glad she won. Noway was she boring.

Who said she was boring?

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by cujo-man
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
lol bless her, I was so glad she won. Noway was she boring.

Who said she was boring?

You said she was dull.

[Rita40]

I loved Nadia but Nadia did display behaviour that would have got other housemates kicked out. Jason was just as good of housemate who played the game. He also had fans, but they played on Nadia's favour. It was rigged.

[Daniel.]

Nadia won fair and square, the best hm won and she gave far more to the series than Jason who had little personality

[*mazedsalv**]

Has anybody been watching the series reunions on Youtube? The BB5 one yesterday was explosive and they all seemed to think it was manufactured for Nadia to win.

Plus Victor and Emma still arguing was gold.

[Daniel.]

Has anybody been watching the series reunions on Youtube? The BB5 one yesterday was explosive and they all seemed to think it was manufactured for Nadia to win.

Plus Victor and Emma still arguing was gold.

Who was in it?

[Captain.Remy]

Emma and Victor do not let go :skull:
I admit it was enjoyable lmao

7FWc_zTWtKA

[Samm]

absolutely not she was a transgender woman in 2004, going into a massive reality show at the time. I don’t think it was designed for her to win at all. her win is probably the best winners journey that’s ever been seen on the show

[Withano]

Nah. She was the most interesting person to avoid vote to evict evictions. She earned her win.

[Aaliyah]

Set up for her to win? Being trans wasn't popular back then... she did amazing to win and win over the public when no one really knew trans other than thai brides them days.