Woman's jealousy leading to Jade's eviction

[dupin]

Jade's eviction just highlights how insecure the voting public are. I predicted on launch night that Jade would be the first evictee, and I was completely right.

Why? You can claim that "she was annoying", and yes, she was, but Victor too was annyoing, and not only that, he's sexist, mean, spiteful, and an overall twat.

The reason Jade was evicted was because she is an attractive and intelligent woman, and someone like her stands no chance at ever getting anywhere in programmes like these, because the majority of voters are female, who will instantly hate any female housemates because of their own insecurities and jealousy. I'm sure many will deny it in this thread, but it's clear that Jade was just an incredibly nice person who didn't deserve to get evicted tonight.

Still in doubt? Look who's the 5/2 favourite to win...Anthony is a nice enough guy, but if he was ugly, would be favourite to win? Of course not, and this is completely ruining Big Brother. Jade had an incredible attitude that deserved to see her to the final.

Shame on the voting public ...

[Jackie]

Do you think so?

[Shaun]

Totally agree. Down with women! [joking :tongue:]

[dupin]

Originally posted by jackie46
Do you think so?

Clearly, or it wouldn't be worth making the post.

Do you actually have anything worth saying?

[Matt10k]

yeah i think that is probably true

[Callum]

AGREE 100% HERE GEORGE. THE woman are jealous because of Jade's looks.

[Captain.Remy]

She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Callum
AGREE 100% HERE GEORGE. THE woman are jealous because of Jade's looks.

A beauty queen with an IQ of 178 was doomed from the start, I suppose.

But it's not her fault that the voting public can only dream of achieving what she has.

[xcharleyx]

Completely agree, it shocked be that the voting public didn't kick Victor out, he deserved it. I was so shocked. I mean, remember BB7? They did the right thing by kicking chauvinist pig Sezer out, so why not Victor? His ego is going to go right up...

[Callum]

Woman were jealous of her, end of.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

Really? Well done. Good observation skills there!

The whole post was attacking those that didn't like her. *smacks head*

[officialleafan]

One a suprise...a girl left first. BB:CH just got rubbish. :cloud:

[Wasted]

I can't add anything else to that. Excellent post, and I agree with everything you said.

Obviously it's not ALL women who vote, but it is obviously a lot and enough to make a difference.

[Jackie]

Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by jackie46
Do you think so?

Clearly, or it wouldn't be worth making the post.

Do you actually have anything worth saying?


Well im not jealous of her at all!!

[Callum]

Originally posted by jackie46
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by jackie46
Do you think so?

Clearly, or it wouldn't be worth making the post.

Do you actually have anything worth saying?


Well Im not jealous of her at all!!

Is that so Jackie?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Shaun
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

Really? Well done. Good observation skills there!

The whole post was attacking those that didn't like her. *smacks head*

I guess you do agree with me ? :hugesmile:
People finally understood that we should keep the interesting housemates even if they are nasty, I'm not saying Victor is not annoying or nasty but he makes drama.

[Jackie]

Never been jealous of anyone usually its the other way round!!

[Callum]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Shaun
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

Really? Well done. Good observation skills there!

The whole post was attacking those that didn't like her. *smacks head*

I guess you do agree with me ? :hugesmile:
People finally understood that we should keep the interesting housemates even if they are nasty, I'm not saying Victor is not annoying or nasty but he makes drama.

Victor is an arrogant git who should have gone. How you think he provides entertainment in beyond me.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by jackie46
Never been jealous of anyone usually its the other way round!!

wow, your so humble!

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Shaun
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

Really? Well done. Good observation skills there!

The whole post was attacking those that didn't like her. *smacks head*

I guess you do agree with me ? :hugesmile:
People finally understood that we should keep the interesting housemates even if they are nasty, I'm not saying Victor is not annoying or nasty but he makes drama.

Hmm, I understand it's good to keep the controversial/argumentative HMs in...but to be honest, he's only really caused an argument once, and if he just keeps on saying "Emilia! Make me tea!" he'll go eventually anyway...

He doesn't do anything other than that, and skate.

[Callum]

Jackie46 calm down!!

[Jackie]

I am aren't i?:cat:

[Arneldo]

As much as I agree that Jade should not have been evicted tonight, I disagree that it's all down to women's jealousy.

As much as a lot of people may like Jade, and enjoyed watching her, there was a lot of people who disliked her for her "annoying" personality, and some people believed her to be fake. And, I don't mean just women. Yes, it probably made up the majority, but it always will as its fact that more women watch BB then men. Also, you say Victor is this, that and the other - and again, I agree - but lots of people would disagree and believe he is a great housemate.

I think Jade's eviction can be explained in two points [1] BBCH is on a digital channel, so obviously less viewers means less votes. The loss of text voting means that the younger audience probably wont be bothered to ring in and vote. The results are going to fluctuate I think, and unlike other earlier series - I imagine for this series every vote really does count. [2] Victor is a man bitch, and this early on I think a lot of people felt that Victor needed to stay. Also, Victor was liked very early on, while Jade only really began to gain a real fan base later on. Also, Emilia/Victor/Jeremy fans would naturally vote to evict Jade in order to keep here favorite in.

You say that Anthony would not be favourite if he was ugly - well, we will never now. But John was favourite to win at one point, and still is second favourite to win, and lets face it - he ain't no Brad Pitt. Also, if he is a nice guy - whats wrong with him being favourite to win?

However, I agree that Jade should not have been evicted, and I will miss her.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
She was so not evicted because of her intelligence this is obvious please ! I can't see the point of making excuses, she's gone, people didn't like her.

It clearly is though ... examples of women's jealousy dictating the eviction results (2005 onwards)

In Big Brother 2005, 6 woman entered the house, and 4 of them were gone by week 5, when Mary and Sam were inoffensive (I believe the evictions of Lesley and Saskia were understandable)

Vanessa did very little, and was hated for being boring.

Anthony does very little, and wins for being an attractive male.

In Big Brother 2006, Susie is slated for being boring - Pete arguably was also dull, and yet wins. In thirteen weeks, only two men were evicted over women in a vote to evict vote (Mikey + Sezer)

Woman's unability to like woman leads to a crowd cheering at the idea of housemate Aisleyne being beaten up. Thankfully, Aisleyne managed to completely turn it around, but even that only gets her third place.

In Big Brother 2007, Shilpa gets booed even when she is in the final two. Of course, as we know, Shilpa won, but some people out there booed her, because she was incredibly attractive and obviously inteliigent.

In the summer, two female housemates make it to the final, out of a total of 16 or something. They are two very inoffensive housemates - Amanda and Sam, and Carole - Carole is overweight and 53, therefore not a threat to the young women out there.

My least favourite case of this was with Kara-Louise, where she clearly bullied in the house, and yet no one said anything because a 'fit lad' (Liam) and the producers favourite (Brian) were behind it. Instead, people slate Kara-Louise for being boring.

If you are a nice female, you're boring. If you're a nice male, you win.

Women need to stop being so insecure.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Shaun

Hmm, I understand it's good to keep the controversial/argumentative HMs in...but to be honest, he's only really caused an argument once, and if he just keeps on saying "Emilia! Make me tea!" he'll go eventually anyway...

He doesn't do anything other than that, and skate.

Of course ! But Victor is talked about andinteresting to watch in the Jeremy/Emilia relationship. I'm not saying he's funny or whatever, but he makes the show.
What about Jade ? 'Hahahaa I'm so funny, I'm so intelligent, look at me boys, I'm so fit !! Hahahahah'

[Callum]

Originally posted by jackie46
I am aren't i?:cat:

Do you actually have anything worth contributing to this thread?

BACK ON TOPIC: Jade shouldn't have gone, I think some women need to look far beyond just than jealousy.

[Shaun]

I don't remember her ever saying anything like that, Rémy :wink:

[Billy]

At least I still have Amy =D

[Callum]

I don't remember her saying that at all Captain.Remy!!!

[Billy]

Remy did you pull that sentence frlom your arse?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Callum
I don't remember her saying that at all Captain.Remy!!!

Not saying but in her attitude, she was always bringing back things to herself like when Emilia was training etc....

[Callum]

Originally posted by Billy
Remy did you pull that sentence frlom your ****?


PMSL. he's talking utter rubbish, she did not brag about herself at all so get some facts right!

[Matt10k]

big suprise- emilia is also "mysteriously" hated by the majority of the female big mouth audience

[dupin]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Shaun

Hmm, I understand it's good to keep the controversial/argumentative HMs in...but to be honest, he's only really caused an argument once, and if he just keeps on saying "Emilia! Make me tea!" he'll go eventually anyway...

He doesn't do anything other than that, and skate.

Of course ! But Victor is talked about andinteresting to watch in the Jeremy/Emilia relationship. I'm not saying he's funny or whatever, but he makes the show.
What about Jade ? 'Hahahaa I'm so funny, I'm so intelligent, look at me boys, I'm so fit !! Hahahahah'

I actually think that Victor's eviction was the next step in the story arch - obviously now, we'll have to wait longer for that, but he's realizing he can't be like what he was, and nothing will happen in terms of not only his appearence in the house, but also with the Jeremy/Emilia story.

I'll just ignore the second part as I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be a lot older than you're acting ...

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Billy
Remy did you pull that sentence frlom your ****?

Is there a need to put a swear word because I don't agree with you ? I thought you were more intelligent to keep things calmer.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Callum
I don't remember her saying that at all Captain.Remy!!!

Not saying but in her attitude, she was always bringing back things to herself like when Emilia was training etc....

Well when you watch the HL's show you'll know that Jade wasn't trying to compete with Emilia at all, she actually after it, went into the diary room and said how Emilia was amazing at what she does.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Matt10k
big suprise- emilia is also "mysteriously" hated by the majority of the female big mouth audience

I kind of understand that - as a male, I don't feel jealous towards her at all. She has shown the Saskia/Grace kind of alpha female attitude towards her group, which appears very bitchy not only to females, but also to men.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Billy
Remy did you pull that sentence frlom your ****?

Is there a need to put a swear word because I don't agree with you ? I thought you were more intelligent to keep things calmer.

ok ok ill keep it calmer, did you pull it from your bum?

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Matt10k
big suprise- emilia is also "mysteriously" hated by the majority of the female big mouth audience

I kind of understand that - as a male, I don't feel jealous towards her at all. She has shown the Saskia/Grace kind of alpha female attitude towards her group, which appears very bitchy not only to females, but also to men.


'very' bitchy?! I must have missed something

[officialleafan]

Emilia is a two-faced b***h. I can't stand her.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Matt10k
big suprise- emilia is also "mysteriously" hated by the majority of the female big mouth audience

I kind of understand that - as a male, I don't feel jealous towards her at all. She has shown the Saskia/Grace kind of alpha female attitude towards her group, which appears very bitchy not only to females, but also to men.


'very' bitchy?! I must have missed something

She is very bitchy. You watch the clips of when she's in the jacuzzie, she's always got a bad word to say about everybody.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Emilia is a two-faced b***h. I can't stand her.

heh, i just don't see it but everyones got their opinion.

[Captain.Remy]

Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

[Callum]

Erm well Remy, I don't think you know what your talking about tbh. That thing about Jade and Emilia in training, was rubbish, she was so not trying to compete with her.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Matt10k
big suprise- emilia is also "mysteriously" hated by the majority of the female big mouth audience

I kind of understand that - as a male, I don't feel jealous towards her at all. She has shown the Saskia/Grace kind of alpha female attitude towards her group, which appears very bitchy not only to females, but also to men.


'very' bitchy?! I must have missed something

If I had friends that discussed other people the way she does , I'd feel very uncomfortable. Though she hasn't possessed the obvious bitching that Grace and Liam (although his wasn't even noticed because he's "FIT", remember?), it is there, she only seems to feel it towards girls though, obviously Jade, and there have been examples where she's shown bitchy or jealousy-provoking behavior towards Amy.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Billy
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Billy
Remy did you pull that sentence frlom your ****?

Is there a need to put a swear word because I don't agree with you ? I thought you were more intelligent to keep things calmer.

ok ok ill keep it calmer, did you pull it from your bum?

I do recognise Billy ! :wink:
It wasn't a quote from her actually, it's more in her attitude, I noticed that, from my point of view. But now, many people can't agree and I'm not going to say they talk rubbish.

[Matt10k]

She is very bitchy. You watch the clips of when she's in the jacuzzie, she's always got a bad word to say about everybody. [/quote]

hardly! i've heard the odd comment here and there but it's human nature, especially when they are in there doing nothing all day.

to me, they only become a bitch if they insist on 'saying it to their face' and telling them what they think of them. there is no need for that, i don't care if they give the excuse that they are being honest or not two faced or whatever, to me that is bs

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

There's a difference between having an opinion, and making up things to justify one.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

But displaying your opinion as some kind of Carollesque fact is farily undue.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

There's a difference between having an opinion, and making up things to justify one.

Exactly. Remy some of the things your saying, you have nothing to back up your point with!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Callum
Erm well Remy, I don't think you know what your talking about tbh. That thing about Jade and Emilia in training, was rubbish, she was so not trying to compete with her.

Of course not. When she was seeing that Anthony and Craig were blown away by Emilia she immediatly did that.....how strange ! And Anthony's and Jeremy's faces when they have seen her were priceless ! :laugh2:
I think she was quite pissed that Emilia was doing much better.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Matt10k
She is very bitchy. You watch the clips of when she's in the jacuzzie, she's always got a bad word to say about everybody.

hardly! i've heard the odd comment here and there but it's human nature, especially when they are in there doing nothing all day.

to me, they only become a bitch if they insist on 'saying it to their face' and telling them what they think of them. there is no need for that, i don't care if they give the excuse that they are being honest or not two faced or whatever, to me that is bs [/quote]

Actually, 'saying it to their face' clear and straight isn't technically bitchy, that's more just being nasty.

Bitchyness comes in more sly forms, such as backstabbing, which Emilia has shown (her "get her out" comment about Jade), and also upfront sly manipulation (her conversation about Russell with Amy).

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

Remy, there is having an opinion but to have an opinion I feel you must have a way to back it up, but whenever asked you never seem to be able to do so, when it comes to Jade.

[Wasted]

Jade: "Why were they booing me?"

Dermot replies:

"Well, let's just put it down to you being pretty".

Spot on Dermot.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Callum
Erm well Remy, I don't think you know what your talking about tbh. That thing about Jade and Emilia in training, was rubbish, she was so not trying to compete with her.

Of course not. When she was seeing that Anthony and Craig were blown away by Emilia she immediatly did that.....how strange ! And Anthony's and Jeremy's faces when they have seen her were priceless ! :laugh2:
I think she was quite p****d that Emilia was doing much better.

Well I don't know where you got that idea from. Watch the eviction show and you'll know what I was talking about, she was so NOT competing against that cow, she actually went into the diary room afterwards and said how amazing emilia was at what she did. I bet you didn't take that into consideration did you

[Callum]

Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

Remy, there is having an opinion but to have an opinion I feel you must have a way to back it up, but whenever asked you never seem to be able to do so, when it comes to Jade.

I agree here. Remy, some of the stuff you've said about Jade in the past is disgusting, I mean calling her vile names is out of order tbh, you only know her from the tv!! I don't think you'd like it if you were ever in BB and people online were calling you nasty names and always giving negative comments about you.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Arneldo
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

Remy, there is having an opinion but to have an opinion I feel you must have a way to back it up, but whenever asked you never seem to be able to do so, when it comes to Jade.

I just don't understand you guys, I'm telling my opinions on what Dupin said and everyone is jumping at me because I don't like her. If I was doing that, you would kill me because I don't respect yours.
I don't like Jade and I know what I'm talking about please ! And my comments and critics weren't all about Jade.
I'm just stunned by what everyone told me now.

[Matt10k]

Actually, 'saying it to their face' clear and straight isn't technically bitchy, that's more just being nasty.

Bitchyness comes in more sly forms, such as backstabbing, which Emilia has shown (her "get her out" comment about Jade), and also upfront sly manipulation (her conversation about Russell with Amy). [/quote]


in your opinion. to me, going up and shouting it in their face is bitchy and far nastier than saying it privately. i'd rather have emilia thinking i was annoying or whatever and just mentioning it to victor/ jeremy than have someone like charlie coming up and insisting she spit it in my face!

[Jack]

I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Callum
Originally posted by Arneldo
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

Remy, there is having an opinion but to have an opinion I feel you must have a way to back it up, but whenever asked you never seem to be able to do so, when it comes to Jade.

I agree here. Remy, some of the stuff you've said about Jade in the past is disgusting, I mean calling her vile names is out of order tbh, you only know her from the tv!! I don't think you'd like it if you were ever in BB and people online were calling you nasty names and always giving negative comments about you.

I did say I was a little bit harsh towards her and Aaron can confirm I said that but afer all, everyone is not going to like her and everyone is not going to find her attractive because she won many beauty pageants.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Actually, 'saying it to their face' clear and straight isn't technically bitchy, that's more just being nasty.

Bitchyness comes in more sly forms, such as backstabbing, which Emilia has shown (her "get her out" comment about Jade), and also upfront sly manipulation (her conversation about Russell with Amy).


in your opinion. to me, going up and shouting it in their face is bitchy and far nastier than saying it privately. i'd rather have emilia thinking i was annoying or whatever and just mentioning it to victor/ jeremy than have someone like charlie coming up and insisting she spit it in my face! [/quote]

Of course it's much nastier - personally, I'd rather have people have a quick bitch about me then up front tell me everything that's wrong, so Emilia's style of bitchyness, the more common one in people these days would perhaps seem tamer, but it's still very nasty.

It's not actually my opinion thats she's bitchy - psychologically she shows tactics and behavior that indicate bitchyness. She's not THAT bitchy, but she's still the biggest bitch in the house.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I guess we are the only ones there then ! :wink::hugesmile:

[Matt10k]

Just don't see how she's "very nasty" because she has the odd word against someone to people she is close to like her brother. Jeez, if I was in the house with my sister, i'm sure we'd talk about who annoyed us.

[Jack]

Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

It was taken when she was 4 years old. It's an unreliable reflection of what it would be if she was to test it now.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Arneldo
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Callum & Dupin, you may not agree with me but saying that "I'm talking rubbish" or "I am supposed to be a lot older than I am acting" aren't necessary. I'm entitled to have an opinion and unless yours is better than mine, I can claim it where I want even if it annoys you ! :wink:

Remy, there is having an opinion but to have an opinion I feel you must have a way to back it up, but whenever asked you never seem to be able to do so, when it comes to Jade.

I just don't understand you guys, I'm telling my opinions on what Dupin said and everyone is jumping at me because I don't like her. If I was doing that, you would kill me because I don't respect yours.
I don't like Jade and I know what I'm talking about please ! And my comments and critics weren't all about Jade.
I'm just stunned by what everyone told me now.

If you post your opinions publically on the internet, it'd be naive to expect anything other than for people to disagree and debate about them. We are all here to discuss Big Brother, lest we forget ... If you're not prepared to be disagreed with, then I would stop having a say on anything.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

It was taken when she was 4 years old. It's an unreliable reflection of what it would be if she was to test it now.

But you can't guarantee that though, can you?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : dupin

If you post your opinions publically on the internet, it'd be naive to expect anything other than for people to disagree and debate about them. We are all here to discuss Big Brother, lest we forget ... If you're not prepared to be disagreed with, then I would stop having a say on anything.

But I do respect everyone's opinions, I've never said the contrary and I know that many people will disagree with me as much as I do but "you're talking rubbish" and everything wasn't a nice way to respect these opinions.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

It was taken when she was 4 years old. It's an unreliable reflection of what it would be if she was to test it now.

Um, barely. She went to a school especially for exceptional children from the ages of 4 to 18 I think, and she's only 21 now. She is clearly very intelligent and I would think it'd be incredibly unlikely for her IQ to be significantly lower than it was 17 years ago.

Saying that, she doesn't really act like she has an IQ of 178, but underneath all the happiness and so forth, you can see that she's very intelligent.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

It was taken when she was 4 years old. It's an unreliable reflection of what it would be if she was to test it now.

But you can't guarantee that though, can you?

That's my whole point. Call me suspicious, but I actually think Jade has tested her IQ since. Let's face it if you knew you're IQ was 178 when you were 4, you'd be pretty keen to test it again when you're older because that is exceptionally high. It's so easy to test it nowadays as well. I'm guessing she done that and found it to be less, and is conveniently not mentioning it.

[Matt10k]

I'd tend to trust my general opinion of someone having watched/ talked to them as a better judge of intelligence as opposed to an IQ test. Not saying i'm fantastic at it or anything but to me, IQ doesn't mean much. Most of the tests seem to be difficult to relate to real life experience and show little as to how any cognitive skills could be adapted around the pressures of society.

[Captain.Remy]

At least, we can't say she's not intelligent even if her IQ is not the same.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Jack
I'm glad Jade went. I found her annoying, brattish and generally irritating. She had no real talent either.

I don't think anyone can deny that having an IQ of 178 is exceptional. I doubt anyone on this forum can even reason near that area.

It was taken when she was 4 years old. It's an unreliable reflection of what it would be if she was to test it now.

But you can't guarantee that though, can you?

That's my whole point. Call me suspicious, but I actually think Jade has tested her IQ since. Let's face it if you knew you're IQ was 178 when you were 4, you'd be pretty keen to test it again when you're older because that is exceptionally high. It's so easy to test it nowadays as well. I'm guessing she done that and found it to be less, and is conveniently not mentioning it.

I'm not sure that your opinion can be based on a cryptic conspiracy theory as opposed to the person (though clearly you don't like that either.)

I think the thing is, obviously there are exceptions - I'm not saying all women hate Jade and men don't, it will be less structured and robitic than that, but clearly what I say in the original post is applicable, and I thought long and hard about it before making it.

[dupin]

Originally posted by Matt10k
I'd tend to trust my general opinion of someone having watched/ talked to them as a better judge of intelligence as opposed to an IQ test. Not saying i'm fantastic at it or anything but to me, IQ doesn't mean much. Most of the tests seem to be difficult to relate to real life experience and show little as to how any cognitive skills could be adapted around the pressures of society.

That's all well and good, but don't go undermining IQ tests. They're clearly reliable...that's why they are IQ tests after all.

[Jack]

Originally posted by dupin
I'm not sure that your opinion can be based on a cryptic conspiracy theory as opposed to the person (though clearly you don't like that either.)

I think the thing is, obviously there are exceptions - I'm not saying all women hate Jade and men don't, it will be less structured and robitic than that, but clearly what I say in the original post is applicable, and I thought long and hard about it before making it.

It's hardly a conspiracy theory, I just find it strange she hasn't tested it since. I still think she is intelligent (there's no denying that) but she has no real talent and you can't really rely on that IQ score. I think she also said she got 2 As and a B in her A levels. Again, good but hardly exceptional. You can't get into Cambridge or Oxford University with those.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
I'm not sure that your opinion can be based on a cryptic conspiracy theory as opposed to the person (though clearly you don't like that either.)

I think the thing is, obviously there are exceptions - I'm not saying all women hate Jade and men don't, it will be less structured and robitic than that, but clearly what I say in the original post is applicable, and I thought long and hard about it before making it.

It's hardly a conspiracy theory, I just find it strange she hasn't tested it since. I still think she is intelligent (there's no denying that) but she has no real talent and you can't really rely on that IQ score. I think she also said she got 2 As and a B in her A levels. Again, good but hardly exceptional. You can't get into Cambridge or Oxford University with those.

To be honest though, she wouldn't have even got in if she didn't have a talent.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
I'm not sure that your opinion can be based on a cryptic conspiracy theory as opposed to the person (though clearly you don't like that either.)

I think the thing is, obviously there are exceptions - I'm not saying all women hate Jade and men don't, it will be less structured and robitic than that, but clearly what I say in the original post is applicable, and I thought long and hard about it before making it.

It's hardly a conspiracy theory, I just find it strange she hasn't tested it since. I still think she is intelligent (there's no denying that) but she has no real talent and you can't really rely on that IQ score. I think she also said she got 2 As and a B in her A levels. Again, good but hardly exceptional. You can't get into Cambridge or Oxford University with those.

To be honest though, she wouldn't have even got in if she didn't have a talent.

Well obviously (based on the producer's opinion). I'm just saying I don't think it's a real talent (in my opinion of course). I think Emilia summed her up - "jack of all trades; master of none".

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Callum
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by dupin
I'm not sure that your opinion can be based on a cryptic conspiracy theory as opposed to the person (though clearly you don't like that either.)

I think the thing is, obviously there are exceptions - I'm not saying all women hate Jade and men don't, it will be less structured and robitic than that, but clearly what I say in the original post is applicable, and I thought long and hard about it before making it.

It's hardly a conspiracy theory, I just find it strange she hasn't tested it since. I still think she is intelligent (there's no denying that) but she has no real talent and you can't really rely on that IQ score. I think she also said she got 2 As and a B in her A levels. Again, good but hardly exceptional. You can't get into Cambridge or Oxford University with those.

To be honest though, she wouldn't have even got in if she didn't have a talent.


Liam lied about his buisness and he's in so the producers didn't verify their sources.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Matt10k
I'd tend to trust my general opinion of someone having watched/ talked to them as a better judge of intelligence as opposed to an IQ test. Not saying i'm fantastic at it or anything but to me, IQ doesn't mean much. Most of the tests seem to be difficult to relate to real life experience and show little as to how any cognitive skills could be adapted around the pressures of society.

That's all well and good, but don't go undermining IQ tests. They're clearly reliable...that's why they are IQ tests after all.

I am undermining them because I don’t think they are reliable.

What does an IQ test prove exactly? That you are intelligent? In what sense? They sit you down in an artificial environment and give you a series of logic based questions. I don't think they are an accurate representation because I think intelligence is more complex and you can't expect to get an accurate answer from one test that lasts about an hour.

[molecular]

Originally posted by dupin
Jade's eviction just highlights how insecure the voting public are. I predicted on launch night that Jade would be the first evictee, and I was completely right.

Why? You can claim that "she was annoying", and yes, she was, but Victor too was annyoing, and not only that, he's sexist, mean, spiteful, and an overall t***.

The reason Jade was evicted was because she is an attractive and intelligent woman, and someone like her stands no chance at ever getting anywhere in programmes like these, because the majority of voters are female, who will instantly hate any female housemates because of their own insecurities and jealousy. I'm sure many will deny it in this thread, but it's clear that Jade was just an incredibly nice person who didn't deserve to get evicted tonight.

Still in doubt? Look who's the 5/2 favourite to win...Anthony is a nice enough guy, but if he was ugly, would be favourite to win? Of course not, and this is completely ruining Big Brother. Jade had an incredible attitude that deserved to see her to the final.

Shame on the voting public ...

hundred percent corecrt. people will give excuses but we know the truth jade and all; attractive girls get slated by big briother audience. emilia will be next fingers crosswed she dont gop up for noms.

[Keith_Can]

Too bad,. I liked Jade,. rare these days (in fact i've never) to see someone with such an awesome attitude about living your life positively.

As far as the voting/girl hate thing you might be onto something dupin. But I also have to agree with arneldo that alot of people did find her annoying. Myself I didn't quite get what Jade was all about until after a few days.

Regarding her I.Q in question by some of the critics if you understand anything about the test you will know that regardless of the difference in the kinds of tests, most are very accurate and stay constant throughout life. You can argue they might not show reality concerning everyday activites or street smarts but that isn't the basis of the test. It shows your ability to learn, adapt, solve problems and retain information. Do a little research and you will find an I.Q score between 174 to 200 is shared by 1 in a 1,000,000 people and is higher then Einstiein's.

Anyway i don't want to get in any flame war with a few of you who didnt like Jade I just thought I had to make my say. I thought she was truly a unique person and very beautiful spiritually and physically and I believe the voting public got it wrong. Not the first time i've been disappointed and highly probable it wont be the last.

P.S I believe Jade has A bright future ahead of her and I'm sure this wont be the last we'll see of her.

[xDramatick]

Ugh.
Why is there always like.
so much drama over things o.0

she's out.
get over it.

:]
on the plus side.
i don't put it down to jealousy.
&i don't think it was talent either.

[Matt]

Originally posted by dupin

Why? You can claim that "she was annoying"

She was indeed annoying. That's why I voted for her five times last night.

I also think the producers/hijackers (whoever is concerned) have been fixing the show to make Victor look bad in this last week.

When John McCririck did the task when a housemate saw footage of what another person thinks of them, who was chosen to see it? Jade. A nominee. Who was it they were showing footage to her of? Victor. A nominee. Surely, if this had to be done, then they should have done it with two non-nominees?

And the debate task that Janet Street-Porter set the housemates is another example. The discussion topic, which is the superior gender, was also setting up Victor for a fall imo.

Which is why I am elated that Jade got evicted last night... I was convinced that Victor would go...

[cgimusic]

I agree with Matt. I was amazed when Jade went. Also Einstein never did an IQ test.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Matt
She was indeed annoying. That's why I voted for her five times last night.

I also think the producers/hijackers (whoever is concerned) have been fixing the show to make Victor look bad in this last week.

When John McCririck did the task when a housemate saw footage of what another person thinks of them, who was chosen to see it? Jade. A nominee. Who was it they were showing footage to her of? Victor. A nominee. Surely, if this had to be done, then they should have done it with two non-nominees?

And the debate task that Janet Street-Porter set the housemates is another example. The discussion topic, which is the superior gender, was also setting up Victor for a fall imo.

Which is why I am elated that Jade got evicted last night... I was convinced that Victor would go...

I can't agree more, the editing was made in order to make us thinking that Victor will be out, that was obvious. That's why we were all surprised last night !

[GlitterEyes]

I think there are some girls out there who will be jealolus of Jade thats normal but I think the reason she was voted out is because she offered the least from the three that were up. Being happy offers no debate which makes her happy but plain and bland. The other two raise debate therefore are bigger and better characters to have in the show.