US Presidential Race '08 - Who would you vote for?

[Shaun]

Pretty self-explanatory question really. :tongue:

Who do you consider most likely to win, and who do you reckon will be the two final candidates (Republican vs. Democrat)?

[Callum]

I want Hilary Clintion to win, and I think she will win too.

[Spike]

I would vote for Hillary Clinton and I think she will win.

I think the final two candidates will be Hillary Clinton and John McCain

[Jack]

Hillary's a bit of a media ***** to be honest, and she's quite cold. I'd prefer Obama to be the Democrat candidate. I think it would be revolutionary to have a black president (more so than a female president).

[Spike]

I don't think people should be voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman or bacause Barack Obama is black. People should be voting on ther policies.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Spike
I don't think people should be voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman or bacause Barack Obama is black. People should be voting on ther policies.

I didn't say that but I think it would be good for America to have a black president.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Spike
I don't think people should be voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman or bacause Barack Obama is black. People should be voting on ther policies.

I didn't say that but I think it would be good for America to have a black president.

Why would it? It should depend on what the candidates stand for not if they are balck or not.

[Shaun]

I like Clinton's stance on health and education, so I'd support her. She also has the experience of living in the White House with Bill, whereas Obama seems a bit too populist really, a bit like David Cameron USED to be [I like him now].

[Jack]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Spike
I don't think people should be voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman or bacause Barack Obama is black. People should be voting on ther policies.

I didn't say that but I think it would be good for America to have a black president.

Why would it? It should depend on what the candidates stand for not if they are balck or not.

Yes it should. I'm not saying he should be president because he's black. It obviously depends on his policies etc. I just think it would be good for someone black to represent America for the first time. Why would you want Hillary to be president?

[Oxymoron]

I want hill to win she seems the most genuine

[Spike]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Spike
I don't think people should be voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman or bacause Barack Obama is black. People should be voting on ther policies.

I didn't say that but I think it would be good for America to have a black president.

Why would it? It should depend on what the candidates stand for not if they are balck or not.

Yes it should. I'm not saying he should be president because he's black. It obviously depends on his policies etc. I just think it would be good for someone black to represent America for the first time. Why would you want Hillary to be president?

I think it would be good to have a black president too after all the racial hatred in the past, I also think it would be good to have a woman president but people should not vote on those two factors. I want Hillary to be president because I think she will keep to her promises of change and she is experienced.

[Shaun]

Obama's been playing the race card too much, to be honest.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Spike
I think it would be good to have a black president too after all the racial hatred in the past, I also think it would be good to have a woman president but people should not vote on those two factors. I want Hillary to be president because I think she will keep to her promises of change and she is experienced.

That's exactly what I said. Of course it shouldn't be based on the fact he's black alone. It's just a bonus. I think he can lead America. I find Hillary quite fake.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Shaun
Obama's been playing the race card too much, to be honest.

Yeah he has, he thinks he will get support by doing it but eventually he will start to lose support.

[Sticks]

Isn't Ross Perot running again? :whistle:

[Ron21]

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[Mark]

I'd vote for Ron Paul, but he isn't on your list :shocked:

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Ron21
The sheep have spoken :rolleyes: and have offered little to no concrete reason why they would vote the candidate they support. No developed views have occurred and no intelligent posts sparking further debates have ensured, which is abysmal considering the vast amounts of policy you could be discussing.

See my Irony thread if you don't understand.

Oh, and I see Ron Paul wasn't mentioned.

Now why doesn't that surprise me :whistle:

Anything worthy to contribute to the discussion?

Sorry, I forgot Ron Paul.

[Ron21]

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[Shaun]

Well since "intellectually contributing" is not measurable, your supposed proof can hereby be thrown out of the window.

Back on topic-responses only, from now on please. :wink:

[Ross]

Hilary Clinton :lovedup:

[MR.K!]

Hillary Clinton

[Ron21]

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[Ron21]

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[Sticks]

None of the above, I am waiting for a third party candidate to appear on a write in

[Billy]

Whoever I like X Factor is who ill be voting probably

[JeanP!]

I hope Hillary Clinton wins :banana:

Vote for her AMERICA, she deserves it !!

[Shaun]

Victory in Nevada for Hillary Clinton, beating Obama by 51% to 45%, but she still trails at 24% to Barack Obama's 25% in the delegate polls.

Meanwhile, John McCain wins a close South Carolina primary, with his 33% beating closest rival, Mike Huckabee's, 30%.

And Mitt Romney won the Nevada Republican contest, with 52%. Closest was Ron Paul with 14%.

[GiRTh]

I hope Hillary Clinton does NOT win. She seems so cynical and calculating. Everything she's done since Bill left the Oval office seems designed to lead to this point.

One thing though, if she does becomes president then would Bill become First Lady/Man. Hows that going to work?

Barack Obama has the backing of Oprah Winfrey which will stand him in good stead but I'm not sure if the US is ready for a black president.

There are no presumtive nominess so this will be a tough one to call. Hopefully by the time we get to super tuesday and the Party national conventions there will be clearer front runners.

[GiRTh]

The biggest mystery is why did Condaleeza Rice not run for office? She would have sown up the Republican nomination by now. And also be the front runner to win.

An opportuinty has been missed.

[Dr43%er]

I don't know enough on the subject to post my thoughts on it. It is a shame ron has deleted all his posts. It would have been nice to see if he actually knows as much as he is insinuating, or if he was just going to copy and paste chunks of rhetoric from other sites.

[spacebandit]

John Edwards

the corporations are terrifed of him.
the likes of Rupert Murdoch is terrified of him.

he will stop the corporations influence and running of the united states, by their lobbying and bribing of senators and congressmen in the form of donations and other "inducements".

As a trial lawyer with several high profile class action lawsuit victories under his belt, all against corporations - he is the nemesis of both corporate America and the right wing propoganda machine that passes for "news" in the United States of Amerika.

He wants to give the power back to the people, back to the voters and out of the hands of the elite and the deep pockets of the corporate lobbyists.

and that is why he won't get in.

Assuming of course that there is an election.

I still see it as more than a remote possibility that the election could be stopped, using some global event - even one orchestrated by the current republican administration themselves, as an excuse to keep hold of power. A coup d'etat in sheeps clothing.

In any case both Obama and Clinton are actually the REPUBLICAN PARTYS candidates of choice for the DEMOCRATS.

Easy targets to attack and lay the blame for the past 8 years onto - using the propoganda machone supplied by Rupert Murdoch

As an expmple of what Clinton and Obama are really like - squabbling children after the best sweets in the shop compared to Edwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-OuoLlds9o

[sexy_leigh]

if i could i would vote for obama, him being black to me is a bonus, i think hilary's fake i just don't like her also the only reason why people are voting for her and why she will win is because she's married to an ex president

[Shaun]

John Edwards and Rudy Guiliani have/are expected to announce the end of their Presidential bids soon, with Rudy now backing John McCain.

McCain wins narrowly in Florida, whilst Clinton does too (but with no delegates due to a legal punishment)

[GiRTh]

Super Tuesday is next week. Thats when it all starts hotting up.

[GiRTh]

Super tuesday is here. We'll know by the end of today who the front runnsers are going to be.

[usa4eva]

nice topic

The only 2 people who vote against war with Iraq & Iran is Obama and Ron Paul.

Ron Pauls wont win coz the media dont like him :p but Obama is the right choice for less war in the war world. I just wish people will vote him and cast aside the fact his black.

The winner will impact every other country in the world

[Dan_]

Looks pretty much a certainty that John McCain will be the winning Republican candidate.Still very close between Clinton and Obama for the Democrats.

[Conor]

Originally posted by Jack
Hillary's a bit of a media ***** to be honest, and she's quite cold. I'd prefer Obama to be the Democrat candidate. I think it would be revolutionary to have a black president (more so than a female president).

Same. I think he'd bring a fresh approach to American policies ect aswell.

[Shaun]

Yeah Conor, just a shame that nobody can name one of them [his policies]

[usa4eva]

Originally posted by Shaun
Yeah Conor, just a shame that nobody can name one of them [his policies]

.... He was against the Iraq war, but Hilary was for it,

.... He is against the Iran war, but Hilary is for it,

the only reason the us elections are big here in the UK is coz a black mans running in it, and there alot of depressed people here in the UK...

[Stu]

Originally posted by usa4eva
Originally posted by Shaun
Yeah Conor, just a shame that nobody can name one of them [his policies]

.... He was against the Iraq war, but Hilary was for it,

.... He is against the Iran war, but Hilary is for it,

the only reason the us elections are big here in the UK is coz a black mans running in it, and there alot of depressed people here in the UK...
Rubbish. US elections are always big here. Its the top story on most news channels , simply because America is the superpower that it is. Its not a question of colour.

Anyway , to answer the question , I shall be backing Obama , with my limited knowledge of US politics.

If its not a conservative republican , im happy :thumbs:.

[usa4eva]

yeah i know its always been big, but never as big as this, as every one has been measuring the hype including John Snow of C4 News. Becuase of a Woman & a Black man being in the election process.

... so no, its not rubbish

[XxShortyxX]

Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.

[usa4eva]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.

have we suddenly forgot margrat thatcher?

[usa4eva]

she wants to go to war with Iran obama doesnt,

and you want her becuase shes a woman?

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by usa4eva
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.

have we suddenly forgot margrat thatcher?


Wow, one women who was in charge :bigsmile: I havn't forgoten her, but how many women have been in charge since her? Like zero, so I hope Hillary Clinton wins.

[usa4eva]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Hillary Clinton, because it's about time we had a female person in charge instead of it being men all the time lol and she seems cool from what I have seen.

I might as well say I vote Obama because hes black,

but then everyone says no, we should vote on policies not race or gender.

but then its ok when some say they want clinton coz shes a woman...?

- clinton wants war with Iran

- obama doesnt want war with Iran

... obama, doesnt need to be "experienced" to know not to go to war

[XxShortyxX]

I might as well say I vote Obama because hes black,

but then everyone says no we should vote on policies,

but its ok when we say we want clinton coz shes a woman.

clinton wants war with Iran

obama doesnt want war with Iran

... obama, doesnt need to be "experienced" to know not to go to war [/quote]



There will be a war whatever, and whoever is in charge, Bush made that happen.

All I am saying is it's about time a women was in charge, instead of men being in charge all the time, would make it different.

[usa4eva]

i know, i was just being critical, but i dont agree that there will be a war no matter whos in charge.

[MR.K!]

personally i would vote for Hillary Clinton as she has experience in the White House and as First Lady.

[usa4eva]

Originally posted by KRA!G
personally i would vote for Hillary Clinton as she has experience in the White House and as First Lady.

she has more experience yet she wants to go to war with iran? where does experience come in to that? ... personally..

[Rory]

I. can. not. stand. Hillary. Clinton, or even her husband.

I'm a Republican, and I support Huckabee, but if it was to be a democrat I wouldn't mind Obama.

I also wouldn't mind if Ron Paul or Romney won it.

[Rory]

Originally posted by JeanP!
I hope Hillary Clinton wins :banana:

Vote for her AMERICA, she deserves it !!
How does she deserve it?

I feel like it's this:
If you want everyone to be equal, no matter how hard they work, you're a democrat.

If you believe that people work for their status, then you're republican.

This is why the Latinos will definitely vote Democrat, while the wealthiest of Americans will vote Republican.

I don't think voting for Hillary Clinton just because she could be "The first woman president" or "She deserves it" (Still don't understand how she does) is the right way to decide who to vote for.

I disagree with her views on giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.
I disagree with the fact that there should be an increased tax for wealthy Americans.

Still, you guys aren't the one voting; neither am I, but my parents voted for Romney (yesterday), and my brother voted for Ron Paul (although, doesn't look like he's going to get it)

[usa4eva]

i think the assumption that they dont care about who we get apart from a black guy only gets stronger

who says things like "she deserves it"

[Shaun]

I think a lot of people are being swept aside in a big supposed "inspiration" wave by Obama, and are looking over the fact that, as far as I'm aware anyway, he doesn't really have many policies. Clinton has the experience of being in the White House and managing some political affairs with her husband Bill, and seems more resilient and determined to do something, rather than running the risk of all style and no substance with Obama.

[usa4eva]

Where do you get that from, its like a consensus for an "AGAINST OBAMA TACTIC"

she votes for war with Iran and Iraq

OBAMA doesnt want war with anyone of those countries, which would only get more of our own people dead.

the buzz word "experience" used with clinton is used as a tactic for avoiding Obama, its so transparent

Obama doesnt want war with Iran , Clinton does, What Experience is that?

[Shaun]

Firstly, Iraq isn't "war" any more. Just because Obama wants to drop everything and run away from the mess we've made, does not mean that Clinton's an idiot for staying there and try to clean it up.

As for Iran, I've personally no idea on that. From what I've heard, and I read a lot of news, I haven't heard her explicitly say "WAR WITH IRAN".

And as for having "more of our own people dead", well maybe they shouldn't join the army before they go to war then. That sounds extremely inconsiderate, I know, but you should know the dangers before joining.

[usa4eva]

obama voted against it before the Iraq war started, hilary voted for it and still is voting for it.

if everyone wants to know the candidates polices check this comparison table out: http://www.2decide.com/table.htm

...before you judge on looks

[JeanP!]

These are the super-tuesdays state-by-state results

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Results_by_County_of_the_2008_Democratic_President ial_Primaries.png/800px-Results_by_County_of_the_2008_Democratic_President ial_Primaries.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Democratic_Primary_Results.png/800px-Democratic_Primary_Results.png

DEMOCRATS

STATE OF ALABAMA
Barack Obama - 56%
Hillary Clinton - 42%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF ALASKA
Barack Obama - 74%
Hillary Clinton - 25%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF ARIZONA
Hillary Clinton - 51%
Barack Obama - 42%
Uncomitted - 7%

STATE OF ARKANSAS
Hillary Clinton - 70% *
Barack Obama - 27%
Uncomitted - 3%

* I love Arkansas:laugh2:

STATE OF CALIFORNIA
Hillary Clinton - 52%
Barack Obama - 42%
Uncomitted - 6%

STATE OF COLORADO
Barack Obama - 67%
Hillary Clinton - 32%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF CONNECTICUT
Barack Obama -51%
Hillary Clinton - 47%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF DELAWARE
Barack Obama -53%
Hillary Clinton - 42%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF FLORIDA
Hillary Clinton - 50%
Barack Obama - 33%
Uncomitted - 17%

STATE OF GEORGIA
Barack Obama - 66%
Hillary Clinton - 31%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF IDAHO
Barack Obama - 80%
Hillary Clinton - 17%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF ILLINOIS
Barack Obama - 65%
Hillary Clinton - 33%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF IOWA
Barack Obama - 38%
Hillary Clinton - 29%
Uncomitted - 33%

STATE OF KANSAS
Barack Obama - 74%
Hillary Clinton - 26%
Uncomitted - 0%

STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS
Hillary Clinton - 56%
Barack Obama - 41%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF MICHIGAN
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF MICHIGAN
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF MINNESOTA
Barack Obama - 67%
Barack Obama - 32%
Uncomitted - 1%

STATE OF MISSOURI
Barack Obama - 49%
Hillary Clinton - 48%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF NEVADA
Hillary Clinton - 51%
Barack Obama - 45%
Uncomitted - 4%

STATE OF New HAMPSHIRE
Hillary Clinton - 39%
Barack Obama - 36%
Uncomitted - 25%

STATE OF New JERSEY
Hillary Clinton - 54%
Barack Obama - 44%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF New MEXICO
Hillary Clinton - 49%
Barack Obama - 48%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF New YORK
Hillary Clinton - 57%
Barack Obama - 40%
Uncomitted - 3%

STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA
Barack Obama - 61%
Hillary Clinton - 37%
Uncomitted - 2%

STATE OF OKLAHOMA
Hillary Clinton - 55%
Barack Obama - 31%
Uncomitted - 14%

STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINE
Barack Obama - 55%
Hillary Clinton - 27%
Uncomitted - 8%

STATE OF TENNESEE
Hillary Clinton - 54%
Barack Obama - 41%
Uncomitted - 5%

STATE OF UTAH
Barack Obama - 57%
Hillary Clinton - 39%
Uncomitted - 4%

Delegates won

Barack Obama 838
Hillary Clinton 835

[Shaun]

Not sure if those figures are correct. According to BBC News;

Hillary Clinton
12 states, 1045 delegates

Barack Obama
15 states, 960 delegates

[JeanP!]

Mitt Romney has supended his campaign

[Shaun]

Anyone think there's been a case of multiple accounts with the voting? It was about 12-4 to Clinton vs. Obama :tongue:

[JeanP!]

Louisiana
Obama 57%
Clinton 36%

Washington
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

Nebraska
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

U.S Virgin Islands
Obama 92%
Clinton 8%

Estimated total delegates (Wikipedia)
Clinton 1,100
Obama 1,039

Estimated total delegates (BBC)
Clinton 1,084
Obama 1,057

Hillary Clinton is in the lead :dance:

[Blink_Me]

Hillary Clinton is a moron, but Obama will be new antichrist.

It's a tough choice for who the American people want as the new president.

[Benji]

i think Obama has a great chance of getting in...But i think Clinton will get it...i dont mind which one does tbh

[KKBL]

as long as its Clinton or Obama then i dont mind.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by JeanP!
Louisiana
Obama 57%
Clinton 36%

Washington
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

Nebraska
Obama 68%
Clinton 32%

U.S Virgin Islands
Obama 92%
Clinton 8%

Estimated total delegates (Wikipedia)
Clinton 1,100
Obama 1,039

Estimated total delegates (BBC)
Clinton 1,084
Obama 1,057

Hillary Clinton is in the lead :dance:

Just slightly. Obama is gaining a lot of momentum.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Blink_Me
Hillary Clinton is a moron, but Obama will be new antichrist.

Interesting and informed opinions there :tongue:

[bananarama]

I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.

[JeanP!]

State of Maine
Obama 59%
Clinton 41%

[Matt]

Originally posted by bananarama
I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.

And you're in favour of Britain joining the EU? :tongue:

[Bells]

Barack Obama. He's a breath of fresh air for America: someone needed to take that vital step, and he did it. Having seen some of his interviews, he also has personal first-hand experience in the issues he wants to resolve as President, and I think that greatly increases his credibilty. Furthermore, he relied on funding purely through American people, i.e. through his book. In fact, the book itself was a great idea for the American people to learn more about him, and what he is about.

I'm surprised at the turnaround in voting on this poll: however, having said that, it still seems that Hillary Clinton still has a lot of popularity. The fact is though, the Clinton name does not give a fresh start for the USA: this is a time where change is crucial, and many people see Obama as that change. He's called himself the 'underdog' on many occasions, which I agree with, because he really is proving to be the dark horse in this race.

[Blink_Me]

The lead is sliding for Hillary. What a surprise. :rolleyes:

People are starting to see right through her. People just don't want Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. They want a new change.

[Blink_Me]

Obama is officially in the lead:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/delegate_counts.html

Can't say I didn't see it coming.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Matt
Originally posted by bananarama
I wouldn't vote for any of them. They are all a bunch of filthy rich beggars buying there way into power with more spin than a spider.

And you're in favour of Britain joining the EU? :tongue:

Perhaps you have not noticed but Britain has joined th EU.......What has Europe got to do with a topic about the USA.......:tongue:

[Ruth]

On balance I'd vote for Hillary. I quite like Obama - tough choice. I think Obama will win for the Democrats, and McCain will win for the republicans (obviously). The thing is that many republican voters don't like McCain, because he is too centralist. Those voters won't vote for a democrat, so they may not vote at all.

[JeanP!]

I hate Obama, Fake, fake, fake :mad:
Hillary will get ohio and texas vote hopefully:xyxwave:

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by JeanP!
I hate Obama, Fake, fake, fake :mad:
Hillary will get ohio and texas vote hopefully:xyxwave:

Hillary is the fakest of the both.

She promises to bring the troops home pretty quickly, yet she was all for the war not so long ago. What's changed her mind? Could it be she's saying anything to get presidency?

Her healthcare plan will not be free despite what she says. It will still end costing the tax payer quite a bit of their money.

Her popularity is fading. People see right through her lies and desperation. She would be an even worse president than Bush, and that's saying something.

And I wouldn't be so sure she'll get the Texas or Ohio votes. In recent polls, Obama is closing the gap on her "popularity" in those states.

[Shaun]

There's absolutely no proof that Clinton is lying about any of those issues. At least she's set out real plans, whereas Obama is just using his "I'm young, vibrant and exciting!" card to try and whip up the excitable people.

I think he could be a good future President, and a good Vice...but he's not experienced or mature enough, and doesn't have a backbone.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by Shaun
There's absolutely no proof that Clinton is lying about any of those issues. At least she's set out real plans, whereas Obama is just using his "I'm young, vibrant and exciting!" card to try and whip up the excitable people.

I think he could be a good future President, and a good Vice...but he's not experienced or mature enough, and doesn't have a backbone.

I keep on hearing this "not experienced enough" debate. He has a lot of experience. Please do some research.

Obama has a lot of ideas - ideas that can work - not like Hillary's ideas, which seem to sound great but won't really turn out great. If you actually took the time to actually research Obama's plans, you would see his plans might actually work. His plans are not impossible, unlike Hillary's.

There's a reason why Hillary is losing a lot of momentum. It's not because Obama is using his sweet talk to gain a lot of popularity, it's because people are seeing more of her "plans," and now knowing they won't probably work. It's all pipe dreams. People are starting to see right through her.

Don't get me wrong, McCain, Obama and Clinton are not great presidential candidates, but I think the whole of America needs a fresh start. Someone like Obama fits that bill.

[JeanP!]

I still think that Hillary should win

[Dan_]

Originally posted by JeanP!
I hate Obama, Fake, fake, fake :mad:
Hillary will get ohio and texas vote hopefully:xyxwave:

How is Obama a fake?

[Ross]

Hilary!

[JeanP!]

Hawai
1st Obama 76%
2nd Clinton 24%

Wisconsin
1st Obama 58%
2nd Clinton 42%

Washington
1st Obama 49.9%
2nd Clinton 46.1%

[GiRTh]

It looks like Obama has a real chance. He's gaining momentum (The big mo baby!!!!). This is not how it was scripted.

[Dan_]

That's the tenth state that Obama has won in a row!

[Shaun]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DMs-p5y6cvo

Funny Umbrella parody.

Warning - contains lots of sexual references.

[GiRTh]

I see the campaign has finally gone negative. Hillary Clinton's camp are trying to claim Barack Obama is a muslim.

Obama Muslim Slur (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080225/cm_thenation/45290136)

[Shaun]

No they aren't :conf2:

They fired some campaign worker last year for claiming that, and there's no proof whatsoever that the Hillary party are circulating that photograph.

Even so, so what? Hillary's been photographed in loads of traditional dress - it doesn't mean she adheres to any of the religions/beliefs that usually come with.

Load of Obama exaggeration, as per usual.

[GiRTh]

Tha article states they're trying to claim Obama is a Muslim. If Hillary doesn't know about this then she doesn't have much of a grip on her campaign.

[GiRTh]

Also, if this is an article circulated by an independent without the Clinton campaigns knowledge then Hillary has to denounce it in order to keep a clean campaign.

Once a campaign goes negative it can never go back and if the Clinton campaign is the first to go negative then that tells me they think they're in trouble.

[JeanP!]

Vermont for Obama:yuk:

[JeanP!]

Rhode Island for Hillary Clinton :bigsmile:

[JeanP!]

Ohio for Clinton

And She's leading texas too :hello:

[JeanP!]

OHIO
Clinton 58% - WINNER
Obama 40%
Uncomitted 2%

RHODE ISLAND
Clinton 59% - WINNER
Obama 40%
Uncomitted 1%

VERMONT
Obama 60% - WINNER
Clinton 38%
Uncomitted 2%

TEXAS
Clinton 51%
Obama 49%
Uncomitted 0%

[JeanP!]

Delegates so far

Clinton 1,303
Obama 1,399

Wooo go Hillary :cheer2:

[JeanP!]

McCain Clinches Nomination
:mad:

[JeanP!]

Delegates so far->

Obama 1403
Clinton 1313

McCain 1205 - WINNER
Huckabee 247

[JeanP!]

Texas very competitive!!!

Clinton 50%
Obama 48%
Uncomitted 2%

[JeanP!]

Lol They're booeing George Bush :laugh:

[JeanP!]

Hillary is up by over 30,000 in Texas!!!

[JeanP!]

Clinton 51%
Obama 48%
Uncomitted 1%

[JeanP!]

Delegates so far
Clinton 1333
Obama 1419

OMG i can't sleep :spin2:

[Jeremy]

CLINTON has won Texas!!! Now we just wait on the caucus results...

I voted for Clinton in our primary..she is the only choice for me!!!

[Spike]

Go Hillary!

[Ross]

Hillary come on you can do it! I didn't sleep last night!

[Shaun]

*ecstatic*

It's so close now! Hillary can do it :bigsmile:

[xDramatick]

Hillary :D

[GiRTh]

Its still too close to call. We'll have to wait for the Democratic Nation Convention in August.

[Sunny_01]

I would vote Obama - purely because I think saying his name when drunk is really funny!!

Seriously though, by voting Hillary would you not be putting someone who has already been there back in power. I think "she" ran the show when good ole Bill was in the white house.

[Sam!]

George Bush please :cheer2:

[GiRTh]

LONDON - A Barack Obama adviser resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster."

Samantha Power, an unpaid foreign policy adviser and Harvard professor, announced her resignation in a statement provided by the Obama campaign in which she expressed "deep regret."

"Last Monday, I made inexcusable remarks that are at marked variance from my oft-stated admiration for Senator Clinton and from the spirit, tenor, and purpose of the Obama campaign," she said. "And I extend my deepest apologies to Senator Clinton, Senator Obama and the remarkable team I have worked with over these long 14 months."


Original Article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23519392/)

If the shoe fits......

[Shaun]

She's hardly a monster :rolleyes:

And yeah, it's likely to be down to the super-delegates now.

[JeanP!]

Obamas campaign is so sad...:rolleyes:. Hillary to win :cheer2:

[JeanP!]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6176/delegateshe3.png

[Blink_Me]

Well..... Hillary will not win.

Obama won Wyoming tonight, by a huge 19 points difference. So much for her comeback and her momentum.

And the delegates have been updated: Obama has 1571, Clinton has 1462 (which will change after the Wyoming result).

Please tell me, how does anyone expect Hillary to win? Because he has the popular vote and the delegate lead. Or she has is the super-delegate vote, which will he close the gap on in the next few months.

Obama will win big in Mississippi

[Callum]

Please Hilary win!
I so don't want Barack Obama to win.

[Jack]

Hillary has pretty much lost now.

[Blink_Me]

It's also convenient that Bill Clinton is talking about have them both on the ticket. Hillary knows she cannot win.

To the people raving about her wins in Ohio and Texas......, well, she had over 20 point leads in both states 4 weeks before. She was expected to win those states pretty big, so Obama could afford to lose them. She won Ohio not too bad, but she barely won Texas. Out of it all, she didn't really gain much delegates on Obama.

He's almost certain to get most of the delegates he lost back in Mississippi.

[JeanP!]

Obama won't win

And Mississipi's not as big as Pennsylvania or North Caroline. Hillary Clinton is leading that states :hello:

[usa4eva]

Originally posted by Callum
Please Hilary win!
I so don't want Barack Obama to win.

why dont you want obama to win, apart from the fact that he didnt want to go to war with iraq and clinton did

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by JeanP!
Obama won't win

And Mississipi's not as big as Pennsylvania or North Caroline. Hillary Clinton is leading that states :hello:

And she will not win North Carorlina, either. And according to Yahoo, Obama's winning North Carolina.

She's definitely going to win Pennsylvania, although... not by much. So yet again, Obama will not be sweating.

What I'm saying is, Obama will get mostly his lead back he lost last Tuesday this Tuesday. So her win in Ohio and "Texas" really won't count for anything.

So..... tell me, how do you expect Hillary to win the nomination?

[alan_powers]

Originally posted by Blink_Me
Originally posted by JeanP!
Obama won't win

And Mississipi's not as big as Pennsylvania or North Caroline. Hillary Clinton is leading that states :hello:

And she will not win North Carorlina, either. And according to Yahoo, Obama's winning North Carolina.

She's definitely going to win Pennsylvania, although... not by much. So yet again, Obama will not be sweating.

What I'm saying is, Obama will get mostly his lead back he lost last Tuesday this Tuesday. So her win in Ohio and "Texas" really won't count for anything.

So..... tell me, how do you expect Hillary to win the nomination?

they dont know how shes gonna win, there comments are just supposed to be a dig at the racial status of america, its a technique alot of europeans use, they dont say things up front. BY THIS I MEAN, they actually state as iv read in the forum that, Obama is all talk and does not have any good policies and Clinton, does. When they dont even know the basic fact that Clinton wants to go to war with Iran and she voted for war with Iraq , whilst Obama did neither

[Shaun]

Hello usa4eva, now why are you on another account I wonder...

[GiRTh]

It looks like Obama does indeed have the big mo. The DNC in August should be interesting.

[secrets]

Hillary to win,because she has more experience.
Obama is a good orator but no one knows his policies.

[JeanP!]

67%(Clinton) to 33%(Obama:mad:) so far! less than 1% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 60% - 21,031 votes :hugesmile:
Obama 40% - 14,139 votes

1% reporting

[JeanP!]

OMG!!!

Clinton 55% - 32,826 votes
Obama 45% - 28,922 votes

3% reporting

[JeanP!]

??:bored:

Clinton 53% - 38,085 votes
Obama 47% - 33,723 votes

3% reporting

[JeanP!]

Delegates won so far

Clinton 15
Obama 5

Clinton 54% - 61,203 votes
Obama 46% - 53,916 votes

5% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 52% - 68,189 votes
Obama 48% - 61,715 votes

6% reporting

[JeanP!]

Hillary wins PA!!!! :spin:

[JeanP!]

Clinton 105,001 - 54%
Obama 90,798 - 46%

9% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 53% - 172,858 votes
Obama 47% - 153,167 votes

15% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 54% - 366,124 votes
Obama 46% - 311,107 votes

33% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 55% - 468,825 votes
Obama 45% - 386,827 votes

43% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 54% - 639,316 votes
Obama 46% - 538,946 votes

56% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 54% - 792,388
Obama 46% - 668,320

68% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 920,002 votes - 55%
Obama 766,492 votes - 45%

78% reporting

[JeanP!]

Clinton 55% - 1,066,687
Obama 45% - 873,189

87% reporting

[JeanP!]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9135/panv4.png

[geoking66]

As the signature says, I'm a Hillary supporter.

[JeanP!]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/AnimalFun106/hillaryclinton.jpg

[Callum]

^Agreed.
Real glad she got the victory last night.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by JeanP!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/AnimalFun106/hillaryclinton.jpg

Please tell me how she will manage to do that?

Because she won one state - a state she was expected to win big in - all of the Hillary fans think she'll win the election. And need I remind you, Hillary was 20 plus points ahead a few months back, yet she only won by 10 points. Obama did what he had to do; he closed the gap. Obama will be more than happy with that.

She's still well behind Obama, even with the PA win. Obama will erase the PA win and the delegates she gained with a win in North Carolina, which he will dominate.

Time is not on Hillary's side. There is no way she can beat Obama. The super delegates will simply choose Obama in the end.

[Hugo]

I love Hilary.

[MrGaryy]

Check these out:
http://www.miniclip.com/games/dancing-hillary/en/
http://www.miniclip.com/games/street-fight/en/
http://www.miniclip.com/games/presidential-paintball/en/

[Maccamaximum]

I want Hillary to win!

[JeanP!]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8174/guamey1.png

[Shaun]

I think it's today that Indiana and North Carolina make their decision.

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Clinton - 57% - 135,545
Obama - 43% - 101,300
21% reporting

NORTH CAROLINA
Upcoming results

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Hillary - 57% - 221,839 votes
Obama - 43% - 176,781 votes
37% reporting

NORTH CAROLINA
Obama - 70% - 68,793 votes
Hillary - 30% - 29,707votes
1% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Hillary - 56% - 249832 votes
Obama - 44% - 195,190 votes
38% reporting

NORTH CAROLINA
Obama - 66% - 119,001 votes
Hillary - 34% - 62,161 votes
4% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Clinton - 54%
Obama - 46%
50% reporting

N. CAROLINA
Obama - 63%
Clinton - 37%
14% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Clinton - 54%
Obama - 46%
57% reporting

N. CAROLINA
Obama - 62%
Clinton - 38%
17% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Hillary - 53%
Obama - 47%
68% reporting

N. CAROLINA
Obama - 59%
Hillary - 41%
32% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Hillary - 52%
Obama - 48%
78% reporting

NORTH CAROLINA
Obama - 56%
Hillary - 44%
59% reporting

[JeanP!]

INDIANA
Hillary 51% 606,497 votes
Obama 49% 589,888 votes
95% reporting

[JeanP!]

Obama wins North Carolina :mad:
Hillary Clinton wins INDIANA!!!:dance2:

[Shaun]

Easy win for Clinton in West Virginia, with 67% of the vote.

But I think it's over for her, really.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ShaunBut I think it's over for her, really. I hope so. Obama for presisdent.

[Sunny_01]

Yep lets hope some fresh new ideas come to the whitehouse this year. I would hate to think the americans voted for another war monger!!!

[Spike]

I think she is fighting a losing battle now, its just a matter of time until Obama wins. But I just I am wrong Hillary to win.

[Hugo]

Almost physically impossible for Hilary to win now. She might be vice - president though.

[Shaun]

I reckon Obama would lose against McCain, so Hillary should turn down Vice and reapply next time, if Obama loses.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by Shaun
I reckon Obama would lose against McCain, so Hillary should turn down Vice and reapply next time, if Obama loses.

Obama will beat McCain. There are plently of polls backing up that Obama is more popular than McCain.

McCain reminds people of Bush; his tactics are like Bush's. People just want a change from Bush/Clinton/Bush.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bush tries to cancel the GE. Will we see some kind of war during the GE? It's certainly a possibility.

[Shaun]

Yes, as is him dancing the samba with the Dalai Lama, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

[JeanP!]

I hate Obama, i don't trust him, sorry
McCain or Clinton to win!!

[JeanP!]

State of Kentucky

Clinton 65% - Winner
Obama 30%
Unsure 5%´

97% reporting

[Smeggypants]

America Will continue it's religo-militarist agenda whoever wins the next presidency. Both democrats and republicans bat for the same side.

Council on Foreign Relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations) is the real US government.

[JeanP!]

Hillary Clinton wins BIG in Puerto Rico

[Shaun]

I think it's safe to say Hillary won't win :sad:

[Shaun]

So, it's Obama vs. McCain.

Who will win?

[Blink_Me]

And now the prophecy can be fulfilled.

[JeanP!]

McCain!!