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Nicky.
25-01-2008, 02:36 PM
From Daily Star <<< I know its rubbish! lol
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/27584/BIG-BROTHER-9-CHOPPED/
Big Brother 9 will be shunted from prime time to a late-night graveyard slot this summer.
Worried Channel 4 chiefs are planning to axe the new series from its usual 9pm peak slot and only screen it after 10pm because of falling ratings.
So the troubled reality show will face its own kitchen nightmare in the form of Gordon Ramsay and Jamie Oliver, as programme chiefs cook up plans to replace BB with programmes featuring the popular telly chefs, combined with a mix of property shows and dramas.
C4’s director of programmes, Julian Bellamy, confirmed that the flagship reality show’s traditional peak-time slot is under threat. Top shows like At Home and Kitchen Nightmares, plus dramas such as City Of Angels and property show Grand Design, have been attracting well over 4m viewers – up to 1.5m more than tuned into BB8 last summer.
Bellamy said: “Exactly where we play Big Brother in the summer has yet to be decided.
“It will depend on the quality and mix of the new programmes coming through.”
But he insisted BB9 will definitely be screened on both C4 and its digital off-shoot E4.
A TV industry insider said even discussing moving BB’s traditional time slot is a clear sign of panic at C4.
He explained: “A couple of years ago Big Brother was such a ratings banker that it would be unthinkable to even discuss such a move. So this is a clear sign that the show’s glory days are behind it.
“The decision to screen Celebrity Hijack, instead of just resting Celeb Big Bro-ther, has proved a disaster.
“It has seriously damaged the brand and there must now be doubts whether Big Brother can recover.
“A switch to 10pm or later would clearly dent the ratings – as the show has so many young fans. It is a worrying time for Channel 4. They’ve paid a fortune for Big Brother and it is their biggest advertising money-spinner.
“They’ve relied on it for so long to bring in ratings – but it seems the magic has gone.”
The channel secured rights to the show in a three-year £80m deal. But C4 chiefs fear the BB bubble may have burst – for ever.
Bosses vowed that BB9 will be back “bigger and better” than ever this summer, but fewer fans have been turning up for auditions up and down the country.
Only 20 people in Newcastle made the effort, compared with thousands who queued last year.
Ratings for Celebrity Hijack have now slumped as low as 300,000-600,000.
arista
25-01-2008, 02:37 PM
The Star
gets alot wrong.
So wait and see.
Jackie
25-01-2008, 02:39 PM
I don't think they will change the time slot.
Daily Star = pure and utter crap.
Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.
Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.
Nicky.
25-01-2008, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.
Definetly :D
Hope its not true.. prob isnt!
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.
Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.
Loads of people have turned up to the auditions this year, admittantly less than last year. Saying 20 turned up to the Newcastle ones is utterly rediculous. BB always seems to bounce back. And I was under the impression BB:CH has been a success (the low ratings are understandable being on E4).
The vast majority of the stuff The Daily Star prints are lies, and Big Brother has confirmed this himself on his blog.
And remember, it is only January, so I doubt that Channel 4 have made scheduling decisions so far in advance of the show.
Originally posted by Jack]
the low ratings are understandable being on E4).
That safety net has gone out the window. Even e4 can get much higher figures than what BB has been getting. Plus most of the e4 audience were usually always Big Brother watchers.
Live evictions are now getting lower ratings than sister shows used to get in years gone by! I think that signals that some of the magic is gone to say the least!
Big Brother has definitely not lost it's magic. It's hibernating :tongue:
It's still very much in the media spotlight (enough for the Daily Star to make up ludicrous stories). People felt this way after BB4 and BB6, and there were many similar reports of BB being in crisis then.
The wonderful thing about BB is it has the ability to reinvent itself, people will always have an opinion on it whether it's good or bad - it still manages to generate hype.
Yes, the ratings were low for BB:CH but the producers didn't intend it to be a ratings winner. The whole point of the show was to allow the dust to settle and give BB a rest (it would hardly have been given a rest if it pulled in 5+ million viewers). It gave the producers the oppurtunity to experiment and throw ideas around.
BB8 was lacklustre and the effort put in by the producers was poor, but this has made the producers go back to the drawing board and rethink the format of the show (much like they did after BB4). I'm not going to say "BB9 will be amazing" but I think it deserves to be given a chance by all the cynics.
Spike
25-01-2008, 03:21 PM
I wonder how many more lies the Daily Star will print before BB9.
Originally posted by Jack
Big Brother has difinitely not lost it's magic. It's hibernating :tongue:
It's still very much in the media spotlight (enough for the Daily Star to make up ludicrous stories). People felt this way after BB4 and BB6, and there were many similar reports of BB being in crisis then.
The wonderful thing about BB is it has the ability to reinvent itself, people will always have an opinion on it whether it's good or bad - it still manages to generate hype.
Yes, the ratings were low for BB:CH but the producers didn't intend it to be a ratings winner. The whole point of the show was to allow the dust to settle and give BB a rest (it would hardly have been given a rest if it pulled in 5+ million viewers). It gave the producers the oppurtunity to experiment and throw ideas around.
BB8 was lacklustre and the effort put in by the producers was poor, but this has made the producers go back to the drawing board and rethink the format of the show (much like they did after BB4). I'm not going to say "BB9 will be amazing" but I think it deserves to be given a chance by all the cynics.
Im no cynic , and im a big fan of the argument that BB can reinvent itself , but its all about the ratings. Why would it be getting so much advertising? Why would it be getting so many slots on E4? Its experimental yes , but only in a small way. The whole experiment angle has been greatly exagertaed by people on this forum. And thats the hard truth. Its just an altered , play it safe format - fact.
Celebrity Hijack was a ratings flop in terms of a Big Brother show. This WILL have adverse effects on BB9 and channel 4's handling of it , wherther we like it or not. Another fact.
To that extent , the daily star is absoloutely right.
Captain.Remy
25-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Message original : Matt
The vast majority of the stuff The Daily Star prints are lies, and Big Brother has confirmed this himself on his blog.
And remember, it is only January, so I doubt that Channel 4 have made scheduling decisions so far in advance of the show.
Exactly, they just didn't plan it yet. God, when will stop the Daily Star with its stupid lies ?
Of course they are planning ahead for Big Brother 9! All TV shows are planned MONTHS in advance! You would be naive to think otherwise.
There really is no excuses for BB this time. Celebrity Hijack is entertaining , but its a ratings faliure. This WILL affect BB9!
1) This is the Daily Star
2) The whole article is based around Big Brothers traditional slot being 9pm, but 10pm is the traditional Big Brother time slot. It has only been on at 9pm from BB7 onwards.
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop. It is on E4 so is not expected to pull in 4m viewers every night. Its averaging out at around 0.5m which is acceptable for E4 and is quite a success.
Originally posted by Tom_
The whole article is based around Big Brothers traditional slot being 9pm, but 10pm is the traditional Big Brother time slot. It has only been on at 9pm from BB7 onwards.
Exactly. In fact the first half of BB7 was at the regular 10pm slot. The only summer series to have the 9pm slot was BB8 (which flopped).
Loukas
25-01-2008, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Jack
Daily Star = pure and utter c**p.
Not this time its not. The magic has gone. It could be moved to 10pm. The auditions WERE a shambles.
not really, i dont think they were in london 3000 auditions on saturday and 4000 on the sunday!
Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.
Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.
Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.
arista
25-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Spike
I wonder how many more lies the Daily Star will print before BB9.
At least another 20.
They are angry at Endemol over something.
No way is it Chopped
on that Rubbish papers say so.
Nobody is saying its chopped! The article never says it will be chopped! Its just an unnapropriate title to the topic its creator gave it!!!
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.
Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.
Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.
You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.
E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.
arista
25-01-2008, 05:23 PM
Yes but look at the star
at how many times they have HAD the wrong story.
Ref:wrestling
the Rock is under contract to Film Studios
so he is not going back to the WWE
for some years.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.
Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.
Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.
You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.
E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.
What about the fast rate in which ratings dropped , with few exceptions , since launch night? What about the completely sporadic ratings the show has been getting , with evicitons sometimes popping up as being lower than uneventful normal shows? Big Brother has become a routine show. Its been around the block. It may get a new lick of paint but as it stands right now it has lost a lot of its magic and its not the show it once was. Big Brother fans need to accept that and realise that it will affect the way Channel 4 may handle Big Brother 9! It may not get the star treatment it once got!
And once again , to that point , this article is completely true!!!
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.
Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.
Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.
You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.
E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.
What about the fast rate in which ratings dropped , with few exceptions , since launch night? What about the completely sporadic ratings the show has been getting , with evicitons sometimes popping up as being lower than uneventful normal shows? Big Brother has become a routine show. Its been around the block. It may get a new lick of paint but as it stands right now it has lost a lot of its magic and its not the show it once was. Big Brother fans need to accept that and realise that it will affect the way Channel 4 may handle Big Brother 9! It may not get the star treatment it once got!
And once again , to that point , this article is completely true!!!
The series flopped as soon as they moved it permanently out of the 10pm slot! The article says it is just moving back, but Big Brother over on the C4 forums said that the story is not true! And it is the real Big Brother.
As for the ratings, they are completely unpredictable. They have slipped, but not a dramatic slip. All viewing figures for shows slip then rise again for the final show. BB is no different.
For a full grid of overnights (the officials are bigger) CLICK HERE (http://insidebigbrother.net/ratings.php)
And yes, Big Brother has lost its magic but its still good to watch.
To be honest, I would rather believe one of the producers rather than you and your logic.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
3) Celebrity Hijack is NOT a ratings flop.
Yes it is , in my opinion. Even for an E4 show it could do more. And launch night only got three million or so and that was on e4 and channel four.
Lays the E4 argument to rest , I think.
You have high expectations. It was publicised as only on E4, not Channel 4. There is one reason for a 3m launch. Its unlikely to get a 6m launch because if some people don't have E4, then they simply won't watch it because there is no point in watching a launch for something you cant follow.
E4's channel share is 1% which is what shows average at. Big Brother gets about a 2-3% share. Not a flop IMO.
What about the fast rate in which ratings dropped , with few exceptions , since launch night? What about the completely sporadic ratings the show has been getting , with evicitons sometimes popping up as being lower than uneventful normal shows? Big Brother has become a routine show. Its been around the block. It may get a new lick of paint but as it stands right now it has lost a lot of its magic and its not the show it once was. Big Brother fans need to accept that and realise that it will affect the way Channel 4 may handle Big Brother 9! It may not get the star treatment it once got!
And once again , to that point , this article is completely true!!!
The series flopped as soon as they moved it permanently out of the 10pm slot! The article says it is just moving back, but Big Brother over on the C4 forums said that the story is not true! And it is the real Big Brother.
As for the ratings, they are completely unpredictable. They have slipped, but not a dramatic slip. All viewing figures for shows slip then rise again for the final show. BB is no different.
For a full grid of overnights (the officials are bigger) CLICK HERE (http://insidebigbrother.net/ratings.php)
And yes, Big Brother has lost its magic but its still good to watch.
To be honest, I would rather believe one of the producers rather than you and your logic.
Im not asking you to believe me , im merely airing a viewpoint. One that goes against the often gullible viewpoints expressed on here concerning Big Brother's future. My point was merely that Big Brother has lost some of its magic [which you have admitted it has] and that this will most probably affect the way Channel 4 handles the show.
As for your ratings excuse? Unpredictable? Come on , they are just plain inconsistent! They show that people now only watch Big Brother out of habit! Not only that , but the weekly averages have steadily gone downwards!
This means even judged against ITSELF as an E4 show , its still not exactly doing too hot!
In the context I wrote, unpredictable means inconsistent although your argument falls apart when you state people only watch out of habit. If people only watched out of habit then the ratings would be consistent.
This series was never destined for high ratings like those on C4, it was only ever aired so that Channel 4 could fulfil the contract with Endemol, whilst resting the show and to try new things out.
Originally posted by Tom_
In the context I wrote, unpredictable means inconsistent although your argument falls apart when you state people only watch out of habit. If people only watched out of habit then the ratings would be consistent.
This series was never destined for high ratings like those on C4, it was only ever aired so that Channel 4 could fulfil the contract with Endemol, whilst resting the show and to try new things out.
Let me explain. By saying 'Habit' I meant as in people who have watched BB by habit for years and are only watching this one on and off now because it has the Big Brother name on it. People like me.
And again , the ratings have been falling with each passing week. Your argument to this after your trumpeting of the good ratings is that the show was never destined for high ratings? Thats rubbish in my opinion. Experimental is an overused word. Apart from changing the usual celebrity twist as damage control after last year and replacing a group of freaks with a group of talented individuals , what exactly has been 'tested out'?
C4 bosses were sure as hell hoping for better ratings than this. All tv shows are put on the box with the aim of achieving great ratings. Thats the business.
Originally posted by Stu
Im not asking you to believe me , Im merely airing a viewpoint. One that goes against the often gullible viewpoints expressed on here concerning Big Brother's future. My point was merely that Big Brother has lost some of its magic [which you have admitted it has] and that this will most probably affect the way Channel 4 handles the show.
As for your ratings excuse? Unpredictable? Come on , they are just plain inconsistent! They show that people now only watch Big Brother out of habit! Not only that , but the weekly averages have steadily gone downwards!
This means even judged against ITSELF as an E4 show , its still not exactly doing too hot!
Gullible? My opinions are no where near gullible and naive (I just tend not to adopt a cynical aproach). I know the producers have to pull something big out of the bag, if Big Brother is to survive. I'm aware that with the show's current format, it has lost that certain spark but I beleive Big Brother as a franchise will always have a certain x factor, and hype to it (love it or loathe it). It always gets people talking. Since CBB5 the show has gone downward but it doesn't mean BB9 will be the same.
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Stu
Im not asking you to believe me , Im merely airing a viewpoint. One that goes against the often gullible viewpoints expressed on here concerning Big Brother's future. My point was merely that Big Brother has lost some of its magic [which you have admitted it has] and that this will most probably affect the way Channel 4 handles the show.
As for your ratings excuse? Unpredictable? Come on , they are just plain inconsistent! They show that people now only watch Big Brother out of habit! Not only that , but the weekly averages have steadily gone downwards!
This means even judged against ITSELF as an E4 show , its still not exactly doing too hot!
Gullible? My opinions are no where near gullible and naive (I just tend not to adopt a cynical aproach). I know the producers have to pull something big out of the bag, if Big Brother is to survive. I'm aware that with the show's current format, it has lost that certain spark but I beleive Big Brother as a franchise will always have a certain x factor, and hype to it (love it or loathe it). It always gets people talking. Since CBB5 the show has gone downward but it doesn't mean BB9 will be the same.
I never specificaly reffered to you as gullible? As for the rest of your post , I completely agree with it.
Originally posted by Stu
I never specificaly reffered to you as gullible? As for the rest of your post , I completely agree with it.
My apologies, I thought it referred to my previous posts.
andybigbro
25-01-2008, 06:08 PM
I hope this is untrue
I'd actually prefer a 10pm slot.
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
In the context I wrote, unpredictable means inconsistent although your argument falls apart when you state people only watch out of habit. If people only watched out of habit then the ratings would be consistent.
This series was never destined for high ratings like those on C4, it was only ever aired so that Channel 4 could fulfil the contract with Endemol, whilst resting the show and to try new things out.
Let me explain. By saying 'Habit' I meant as in people who have watched BB by habit for years and are only watching this one on and off now because it has the Big Brother name on it. People like me.
And again , the ratings have been falling with each passing week. Your argument to this after your trumpeting of the good ratings is that the show was never destined for high ratings? Thats rubbish in my opinion. Experimental is an overused word. Apart from changing the usual celebrity twist as damage control after last year and replacing a group of freaks with a group of talented individuals , what exactly has been 'tested out'?
C4 bosses were sure as hell hoping for better ratings than this. All tv shows are put on the box with the aim of achieving great ratings. Thats the business.
For E4, they are pulling in great ratings but it was never destined to match the viewing figures of other BB series like you was expecting. Plenty has been different this series.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
In the context I wrote, unpredictable means inconsistent although your argument falls apart when you state people only watch out of habit. If people only watched out of habit then the ratings would be consistent.
This series was never destined for high ratings like those on C4, it was only ever aired so that Channel 4 could fulfil the contract with Endemol, whilst resting the show and to try new things out.
Let me explain. By saying 'Habit' I meant as in people who have watched BB by habit for years and are only watching this one on and off now because it has the Big Brother name on it. People like me.
And again , the ratings have been falling with each passing week. Your argument to this after your trumpeting of the good ratings is that the show was never destined for high ratings? Thats rubbish in my opinion. Experimental is an overused word. Apart from changing the usual celebrity twist as damage control after last year and replacing a group of freaks with a group of talented individuals , what exactly has been 'tested out'?
C4 bosses were sure as hell hoping for better ratings than this. All tv shows are put on the box with the aim of achieving great ratings. Thats the business.
For E4, they are pulling in great ratings
Which explains why the weekly averages have steadily nosedived since the start of the series.
Redmond
25-01-2008, 07:18 PM
Every series apart from some of BB7 and BB8 was usually at 10pm anyway. I hope it does go back to 10pm, it's a better timeslot, less competition on at that time.
Arneldo
25-01-2008, 07:21 PM
It should be moved to 10pm, and evictions should go back to BB5 format with just 30 minutes HL's.
There is too much competition at 9:00pm, with new dramas, sitcoms and more.
Originally posted by StuWhich explains why the weekly averages have steadily nosedived since the start of the series.
Nose dive or not, they are still healthy ratings for E4.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuWhich explains why the weekly averages have steadily nosedived since the start of the series.
Nose dive or not, they are still healthy ratings for E4.
And are they healthy for Big Brother?
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuWhich explains why the weekly averages have steadily nosedived since the start of the series.
Nose dive or not, they are still healthy ratings for E4.
And are they healthy for Big Brother?
Its impossible to compare Hijack to the rest of Big Brother because Hijack doesn't get promotion or the publicity it had when it was on C4 because C4 purposely wanted it more low key. Considering during BB8, BBBM got 700,000 viewers with a 3.5m lead in and Hijack is getting around 600,000 with next to no promotion and it being on E4 (0.6m is very respectable for E4) I would say yes, it is healthy for Big Brother and the purpose of the show.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuWhich explains why the weekly averages have steadily nosedived since the start of the series.
Nose dive or not, they are still healthy ratings for E4.
And are they healthy for Big Brother?
Its impossible to compare Hijack to the rest of Big Brother because Hijack doesn't get promotion or the publicity it had when it was on C4 because C4 purposely wanted it more low key. Considering during BB8, BBBM got 700,000 viewers with a 3.5m lead in and Hijack is getting around 600,000 with next to no promotion and it being on E4 (0.6m is very respectable for E4) I would say yes, it is healthy for Big Brother and the purpose of the show.
Enough of the excuses. Celebrity Hijack as a stand alone E4 show has been promoted on E4. And its hardly as if people need to know its their. Judged against itself , the ratings still got lower with every passing week.
Originally posted by Stu
Enough of the excuses. Celebrity Hijack as a stand alone E4 show has been promoted on E4. And its hardly as if people need to know its their. Judged against itself , the ratings still got lower with every passing week.
Its not being promoted anymore, and they keep playing about with the times sometimes its on at 8pm and sometimes its on at 9pm. What you don't seem to grasp is that ratings for most shows slide over the series.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Enough of the excuses. Celebrity Hijack as a stand alone E4 show has been promoted on E4. And its hardly as if people need to know its their. Judged against itself , the ratings still got lower with every passing week.
Its not being promoted anymore, and they keep playing about with the times sometimes its on at 8pm and sometimes its on at 9pm.
Which is a direct result of what.....?
....falling ratings.
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
Originally posted by Tom_
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
No , its the fact that the show is not what it once was , so obviously it can not get the insane treatment media wise it got before.
Tilly83
26-01-2008, 06:35 PM
the London auditions were packed out and according to some guys who have auditioned in Newcastle there were more then 20 ppl! The spin off shows always get less veiwing i think BB will still be on at 9pm the summer BB is always the best one!
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
No , its the fact that the show is not what it once was , so obviously it can not get the insane treatment media wise it got before.
Even though it got a massive amount of coverage in 2007 ...
Thats why CBB6 was postponed, because they wanted to let the dust settle because its not been out of the papers in 2007.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
No , its the fact that the show is not what it once was , so obviously it can not get the insane treatment media wise it got before.
Even though it got a massive amount of coverage in 2007 ...
Yes , thats because it was in the processing of being killed off in 2007. Sure Big Brother 8 started with a bang , but it ended with a whimper.
And what happened to your claims that Celebrity Hijack was not promoted that much?
Oh yeah , because this time its okay , they purposefully gave ti a low budget treatment so not as to create a drama shitstorm.
I guess that justifies the sub-standard ratings.
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
No , its the fact that the show is not what it once was , so obviously it can not get the insane treatment media wise it got before.
Even though it got a massive amount of coverage in 2007 ...
Yes , thats because it was in the processing of being killed off in 2007. Sure Big Brother 8 started with a bang , but it ended with a whimper.
And what happened to your claims that Celebrity Hijack was not promoted that much?
Oh yeah , because this time its okay , they purposefully gave ti a low budget treatment so not as to create a drama shitstorm.
I guess that justifies the sub-standard ratings.
Hijack is in 2008 not 2007 so coverage in 2007 never affected Hijack. It has the same budget as CBB because it is only a filler show so C4 don't breach the Endemol contract. The ratings are not substandard. They are big for E4. If it was on Channel 4 then maybe we could compare it to other series, but its not. The launch show aired 1 hour on C4 and didn't match the ratings of previous launches but thats to be expected because its an E4 only series and it was publicised to launch on E4, not C4 and E4.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Tom_
Surely it would be the other way around? If they were not confident or happy with the ratings they would advertise it more?
No , its the fact that the show is not what it once was , so obviously it can not get the insane treatment media wise it got before.
Even though it got a massive amount of coverage in 2007 ...
Yes , thats because it was in the processing of being killed off in 2007. Sure Big Brother 8 started with a bang , but it ended with a whimper.
And what happened to your claims that Celebrity Hijack was not promoted that much?
Oh yeah , because this time its okay , they purposefully gave ti a low budget treatment so not as to create a drama shitstorm.
I guess that justifies the sub-standard ratings.
Hijack is in 2008 not 2007 so coverage in 2007 never affected Hijack. It has the same budget as CBB because it is only a filler show so C4 don't breach the Endemol contract. The ratings are not substandard. They are big for E4. If it was on Channel 4 then maybe we could compare it to other series, but its not. The launch show aired 1 hour on C4 and didn't match the ratings of previous launches but thats to be expected because its an E4 only series and it was publicised to launch on E4, not C4 and E4.
But the ratings are falling every week! And dont say 'thats the way their supposed to be' or 'thats the way it goes' because it is not. Interest is just wanning. And fast.
Jake!
27-01-2008, 03:05 PM
Let's think about it, how far down can it go from where it is now before it shoots back up...
Originally posted by StuBut the ratings are falling every week! And dont say 'thats the way their supposed to be' or 'thats the way it goes' because it is not. Interest is just wanning. And fast.
I challenge you to find a series of Big Brother which manages to sustain them throughout the whole run.
arista
27-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Tilly83
the London auditions were packed out and according to some guys who have auditioned in Newcastle there were more then 20 people! The spin off shows always get less veiwing i think BB will still be on at 9pm the summer BB is always the best one!
Yes BB9 will be a Hit.
It is just the Star stirring it.
Todays paper had NO Big Brother Hijack in it,
only a story about Charley .
I think the Star has fallen out with Endemol.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuBut the ratings are falling every week! And dont say 'thats the way their supposed to be' or 'thats the way it goes' because it is not. Interest is just wanning. And fast.
I challenge you to find a series of Big Brother which manages to sustain them throughout the whole run.
Thats an unfair question. Different Big Brothers have different key twists and different lenghts. But in general , yes , ratings dipped in the middle and picked up towards the end.
I equally challenge you to find a series that had its ratings drop each week in a row. Thats not just 'sustained ratings' , its a sinking ship.
Originally posted by Morpheus
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuBut the ratings are falling every week! And dont say 'thats the way their supposed to be' or 'thats the way it goes' because it is not. Interest is just wanning. And fast.
I challenge you to find a series of Big Brother which manages to sustain them throughout the whole run.
Thats an unfair question. Different Big Brothers have different key twists and different lenghts. But in general , yes , ratings dipped in the middle and picked up towards the end.
I equally challenge you to find a series that had its ratings drop each week in a row. Thats not just 'sustained ratings' , its a sinking ship.
You've just answered your own question. As each week goes by, each series generally has dipped until the final weeks. But none of this is relavent. The original argument is that these are bad figures for E4, and they aren't. Theres no point in continuing arguing because we are just going around in circles and quite frankly I can't be bothered anymore so its better just to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Morpheus
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by StuBut the ratings are falling every week! And dont say 'thats the way their supposed to be' or 'thats the way it goes' because it is not. Interest is just wanning. And fast.
I challenge you to find a series of Big Brother which manages to sustain them throughout the whole run.
Thats an unfair question. Different Big Brothers have different key twists and different lenghts. But in general , yes , ratings dipped in the middle and picked up towards the end.
I equally challenge you to find a series that had its ratings drop each week in a row. Thats not just 'sustained ratings' , its a sinking ship.
You've just answered your own question. As each week goes by, each series generally has dipped until the final weeks. But none of this is relavent. The original argument is that these are bad figures for E4, and they aren't. Theres no point in continuing arguing because we are just going around in circles and quite frankly I can't be bothered anymore so its better just to agree to disagree.
I dont see how the ratings for E4 are seen as good if they are falling each week. Simple logic. It just blatantly shows interest dipping in the programme. And its not acceptable 'just because' other series were like that too. Thats like saying its okay for an impoverished country to starve because 'thats just the way it is' over their.
Does Big Brother have to lose ratings week after week? Why accept that as the norm? Make a better show , and that wont happen.
Still , we have indeed reached a stalemate here. My concept of good ratings obviously differs form yours , so yeah , lets end the circle :tongue:.
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