Everything

[Scarlett.]

What is the Universe?
Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world?
How does time work?
Whats the Universe expanding into?
Why are we alive?
Literally what the hell is really going on?

[Shaun]

*head explodes*

We'll never know. Well, for now anyway :tongue:

[Scarlett.]

I really wanna know
everything is confusing
I wish I wasnt so curious:bigsmile:

[Matt10k]

I think the universe has always existed and will always exist. I can’t see any other explanation for getting something from nothing, so it’d seem to be the only logical explanation.

I also think it’s infinite in size in all directions ie. I don’t believe there is a smallest particle. Even the smallest particle has to be made of something!

I think time is just a measurement of change and not the magical dimension some believe it is.

I think the meaning of life is being able to have the awareness to ask that very question. There may be no answer but realising we are a part of it, enjoying it while we can and occasionally questioning it may be the answer after all. Here today, gone tomorrow…

[Scarlett.]

Good ideas there I definatley think that our universe is like a tiny part of an atom

[Mark]

@Matt - Big Bang theory explains the 'nothing to something' idea. Well it's not literally nothing, theres a principle called Singularity which explains how the Big Bang would have happened.

I've been reading up loads lately about Astronomy/Cosmology... and I'm sure Sticks will correct me if I'm wrong but here's my take on your questions.

The universe is everything that physically exists that we know of down to the laws of science.

Time is something we use as a measuring tool to put other things into context and to correlate different events, past and future.

If the universe is infinitely big, then you mustn't look at it from a distance point of view. Most people have problems grasping infinity because its hard to imagine something that doesn't end. Also I think this is right, but the term 'the universe is expanding' is incorrectly used. Although technically correct, the universe is more stretching. To me, someone saying the universe is constantly expanding is inferring indirectly that the universe has an edge. To say its stretching makes more sense, and I think more correct? Imagine you have a balloon, and you put some dots on it. When you blow air into it, the dots move away from each other (kind of like what the big bang essentially did I think). Now imagine the skin of a balloon not existing and the dots floating in the air, expanding in the same way.

We are alive due to 4.5 billion years worth of evolution :spin:

- Mark

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Mark
@Matt - Big Bang theory explains the 'nothing to something' idea. Well it's not literally nothing, theres a principle called Singularity which explains how the Big Bang would have happened.

I've been reading up loads lately about Astronomy/Cosmology... and I'm sure Sticks will correct me if I'm wrong but here's my take on your questions.

The universe is everything that physically exists that we know of down to the laws of science.

Time is something we use as a measuring tool to put other things into context and to correlate different events, past and future.

If the universe is infinitely big, then you mustn't look at it from a distance point of view. Most people have problems grasping infinity because its hard to imagine something that doesn't end. Also I think this is right, but the term 'the universe is expanding' is incorrectly used. Although technically correct, the universe is more stretching. To me, someone saying the universe is constantly expanding is inferring indirectly that the universe has an edge. To say its stretching makes more sense, and I think more correct? Imagine you have a balloon, and you put some dots on it. When you blow air into it, the dots move away from each other (kind of like what the big bang essentially did I think). Now imagine the skin of a balloon not existing and the dots floating in the air, expanding in the same way.

We are alive due to 4.5 billion years worth of evolution :spin:

- Mark

How does the big bang theory explain how we got something from nothing? If everything formed from a single, infinitely small compressed piece of matter, this is still something.

Also, we observe the universe expanding or stretching, yet a balloon can only stretch because it has the air around it to stretch into. An object of infinite size cannot increase or decrease in size.

It may be that the universe we can observe is expanding into an area of the universe we can not yet observe or are not yet able to measure, yet as a whole it remains the same- difficult to comprehend size of infinity.

[Mark]

So singularity shows how the universe was most likely created, from intense pressure in a black hole forcing finite matter to expand an infinitely dense space. That's what we know and understand to be true. So although there is 'something' to spark off this reaction, why does there have to be a master architect involved? Saying 'someone/thing must have made it' just takes things a step further than something we are at the peak of knowing what happens, into territory we know nothing about.

I remember a few years ago when a state in America removed all existence of the word evolution from school text books. I'll try not to go on about religion too much (because it will get nasty :thumbs2:) but it amazes me how people who believe in a god will go as far to rule out the single unifying area of biology/chemistry/everything we know, in order to expand their profit making organisation. Just because we don't know how that original piece of matter got there, it doesn't mean that a creator put it there. We are hundreds/thousands of years away from knowing EXACTLY how everything happened, people just cannot accept we probably won't know it in our lifetimes, and use a god to fill in the missing answers. If a creator wanted to create a universe, worlds, galaxy's... why not create them? Why create a piece of matter.

Also the balloon example was a bad idea because obviously a balloon has an edge, which is why I said imagine the balloon goes.

You are right that it is difficult to comprehend the size of infinity... thats because you are giving it a 'size'. When you remove all boundaries, it becomes somewhat easier to visualize and understand.

- Mark

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Mark
So singularity shows how the universe was most likely created, from intense pressure in a black hole forcing finite matter to expand an infinitely dense space. That's what we know and understand to be true. So although there is 'something' to spark off this reaction, why does there have to be a master architect involved? Saying 'someone/thing must have made it' just takes things a step further than something we are at the peak of knowing what happens, into territory we know nothing about.

I remember a few years ago when a state in America removed all existence of the word evolution from school text books. I'll try not to go on about religion too much (because it will get nasty :thumbs2:) but it amazes me how people who believe in a god will go as far to rule out the single unifying area of biology/chemistry/everything we know, in order to expand their profit making organisation. Just because we don't know how that original piece of matter got there, it doesn't mean that a creator put it there. We are hundreds/thousands of years away from knowing EXACTLY how everything happened, people just cannot accept we probably won't know it in our lifetimes, and use a god to fill in the missing answers. If a creator wanted to create a universe, worlds, galaxy's... why not create them? Why create a piece of matter.

Also the balloon example was a bad idea because obviously a balloon has an edge, which is why I said imagine the balloon goes.

You are right that it is difficult to comprehend the size of infinity... thats because you are giving it a 'size'. When you remove all boundaries, it becomes somewhat easier to visualize and understand.

- Mark

This is not a full explanation. We can (or think) we can trace the origins of the section of the universe we are able to understand down to a single point. I say ‘section’ of the universe because I still believe my original theory that the universe as a whole is infinite in size and that the part we can measure/ understand is on a cycle of constant expansion/ compression but that in order for it to be able to expand, there must be something for it to expand into ie. A part of the universe we do not yet understand or are able to measure that pre-dates the big bang and perhaps has always existed.

[Matt10k]

Can't believe I'm still up at this time talking about this :rolleyes:

I think I better go to sleep!

Nice talking though.

I'd hope everyone thinks about the bigger picture from time to time...

:xyxwave:

[Captain.Remy]

This is such a complicated thing. It upsets me not to know why, how, who and where. I can't sleep if I think to it too much lol.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Chewy
I really want to know


I am sure most of us do. But man cannot comprehend this at this moment in time. Maybe we will never know. It's questions like this that fascinate me. My most complex one is:

Eternity. Is the universe eternal? How can it be? But it cannot come to an abrupt end. So it must be? :puzzled:

[Dr43%er]

All you need to know is that everything revolves around me. :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
All you need to know is that everything revolves around me. :thumbs:

Are you the axis?

[Dr43%er]

Don't you swear at me!!!

[Mrluvaluva]

Well an axis is an imaginary line. You are imaginary. La la la. I can't hear you!

[Dr43%er]

In that case I can call you a cock nobler and you will never know about it.

[Sticks]

Come on

Every one knows the answer to life the universe and every thing is







42

:laugh:

As for what is the universe expanding into

see here (http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/episode-28-what-is-the-universe-expanding-into/)

[Dr43%er]

That may be the answer, but what was the question again?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Sticks
Come on

Every one knows the answer to life the universe and every thing is







42

:laugh:

As for what is the universe expanding into

see here (http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/episode-28-what-is-the-universe-expanding-into/)

Why 42 ?:shocked:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
In that case I can call you a cock nobler and you will never know about it.

That is an insult. I have reported you. Mods! Warn him!!!! I know my rights!!!! Ban him!!!!

[Dr43%er]

You can't hear me.

Remy. It is 42 because:

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (published in 1979), the characters visit the legendary planet Magrathea, home to the now-collapsed planet building industry, and meet Slartibartfast, a planetary coastline designer who was responsible for the fjords of Norway. Through archival recordings, he relates the story of a race of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings who built a computer named Deep Thought to calculate the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. When the answer was revealed as 42, they were told to build a more powerful computer to work out what the Ultimate Question actually was, but their plans never come to fruition. (Later on, referencing this, Adams would create a puzzle which could be approached in multiple ways, all yielding the answer 42.)

The computer, often mistaken for a planet (because of its size and use of biological components), was the Earth, and was destroyed by Vogons five minutes before the conclusion of its 10-million-year program. Two of the race of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings, who turn out to be Trillian's mice, want to dissect Arthur's brain to help reconstruct the question, since he is the last remaining survivor from Earth at the moment when it was destroyed. Trillian is also human but had left Earth six months previously with Zaphod Beeblebrox. Our protagonists escape, setting course for "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe". The mice, in Arthur's absence, create a phony question since it is too troublesome for them to wait 10 million years again just to cash in on a lucrative deal. Their new question was "How many roads must a man walk down?"

The book was adapted from the first four radio episodes. It was first published in 1979, initially in paperback, by Pan Books, after BBC Publishing had turned down the offer of publishing a novelisation, an action they would later regret.[14] The book reached number one on the book charts in only its second week, and sold over 250,000 copies within three months of its release. A hardback edition was published by Harmony Books, a division of Random House in the United States in October 1980, and the 1981 US paperback edition was promoted by the give-away of 3,000 free copies in the magazine Rolling Stone to build word of mouth. To date it has sold over 14 million copies.[15]

[Mrluvaluva]

"gives The doc karma, knowing he will hate that"! Mwahahahahahaha!

[Dr43%er]

"You are imaginary" So you are giving your imaginary friend karma. Bless. Remember, you are not different, you are special.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"You are imaginary" So you are giving your imaginary friend karma. Bless. Remember, you are not different, you are special.

I am. Thanks for noticing, my imaginary friend. Can I call you "Drop dead Fred"?

[Dr43%er]

No.

[Mrluvaluva]

Spoilsport.

[Dr43%er]

Yes.

[Matt10k]

So are we any closer to finding out?

[Mrluvaluva]

Are

[Mrluvaluva]

we

[Mrluvaluva]

just

[Mrluvaluva]

posting

[Mrluvaluva]

single

[Mrluvaluva]

words

[Mrluvaluva]

now?

[Matt10k]

No

[Matt10k]

we

[Matt10k]

aren't

[Dr43%er]

Unlike the woman you are I don't need to waffle on to get the point across when it can be done in a manly one word way.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Unlike the woman you are I don't need to waffle on to get the point across when it can be done in a manly one word way.

:laugh3:

Linda says, "that's rich coming from a man in a tutu" haha

[Dr43%er]

Yes, but I wear it in a manly way.

[Matt10k]

Only a true gent can pull off the tutu look. Luva, you are so behind the times...

[Dr43%er]

Thank you Matt.

As this pic will show I am a true gent.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/123andrew/fairy1.jpg

[Matt10k]

:joker: Very good. I'll admit, it's a difficult one to get right but I think you pulled it off.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Only a true gent can pull off the tutu look. Luva, you are so behind the times...

And I am soooo glad! :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
This is such a complicated thing. It upsets me not to know why, how, who and where. I can't sleep if I think to it too much lol. Same here

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Chewy
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
This is such a complicated thing. It upsets me not to know why, how, who and where. I can't sleep if I think to it too much lol. Same here

I'm glad someone agrees with me, sometimes I think I'm alone lol My parents and friends don't bother at all.

[Stu]

All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves...

...not the most popular theory I grant you.

[FictitiousHouse]

Originally posted by Chewy
What is the Universe?
Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world?
How does time work?
Whats the Universe expanding into?
Why are we alive?
Literally what the hell is really going on?

God we are asking some difficult questions!!!!!

What is the Universe? Dont know as I havent ventured past planet Earth as yet, although Richard Branson is looking into the future by offering Joyrides into space http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,9745,2-13-1443_2257510,00.html Pity Im broke huh :mad:
Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world? Thats possible but nobody could ever know for sure except Dr who. Noone else owns a tardis and can time travel
How does time work? I dont know, all I do know is we all age over time and the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. Spring summer autumn and winter will all occur in exactly the same order each year.
Whats the Universe expanding into? Ill have to travel to the end of it to ever find that out, there is an end right!
Why are we alive? Because people keep *********g. If that stops then we shall all eventually die
Literally what the hell is really going on? I dont know. Ask God. He listens to all our prayers you know

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Morpheus
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves...

...not the most popular theory I grant you. Yet it somehow makes a lot of sense

[Stu]

I dont think some questions can ever , EVER be possibly answered until death. And if their are no answers , well , we wont know that either , cause' we will be a bit dead.

Either way , we wont be able to communicate it back to the living. So on the mystery of life goes. Just ****ing live the thing I say :wink:...

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Chewy
What is the Universe?
Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world?
How does time work?
Whats the Universe expanding into?
Why are we alive?
Literally what the hell is really going on?




What is the Universe? Answer. It's a mix of time,matter and energy but doesn't matter if you neither have time or energy.?


Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world? More like a boulder in a china shop.


How does time work? It's unemployed at the moment


Whats the Universe expanding into? A mess as usual


Why are we alive? We are not we just think we are


Literally what the hell is really going on? You hit the nail on the head. "Hell is going on like you said"

[Matt10k]

How did scientists formulate their theory of the big bang and then extend it to their opinion that this must have created all matter in the universe within seconds? Radiation emanating from a source. An arguably one dimensional evidence that in no way disproves the existence of an infinite universe.

To say there is nothing beyond a certain point in the universe just because we are not able to measure it yet is as ignorant as saying their must be no life on the seemingly millions of planets in our galaxy and beyond just because we haven’t had contact yet…

To me, the universe is infinite. If you take a particle, you can always break it down into something smaller. If there can be no smallest size, there can also be no largest size- logically.

Trouble is for thousands of years we have been conditioned around religion. Science has only recently begun to come to the fore. Hence, ideas that the big bang created all matter are more generally accepted because they provide a nice ‘beginning, middle and end’ hypothesis, just like religion.

I am not denying the existence of the big bang- I just think there is more to it. I don’t believe the big bang was the beginning and I don’t believe the big crunch will be the end.

I think what was, will always be. You can’t create something from nothing and you can’t uncreate matter that is already there…

[molecular]

ye i think one day there was a small atom containin the fundmaentals of nature gravity magnets an electric an all that then one bit flew off caused a reaction an it expands an we call it universe. its called big bang but if there were nothin there how coukld the vibration s cause a bang. it must been silent if you ask me like when emilia opens her legs to do stretches, there no sound but it get a big rection from me:joker:. many years from now our universe just evaporates aparently they call that the big stretch i think cuase everythin strecth too much like a bollon poppin after blow it up to much. thats ages off yet lke millions of years so it alright.

[Octavian]

What is the Universe?
Is the Universe in fact a spec of dust in a larger world?
How does time work?
Whats the Universe expanding into?
Why are we alive?
Literally what the hell is really going on?

Ha ha i like questions like this.

1. The Universe is literally everything we can see around us, and also what we cant see, i.e stars so far away from us or have only recently formed and their light has not yet reached us, or the luminosity of these stars are too weak to reach us etc. Most probably the universe is all there is in my opinion, but other theories like we actually live in a multiverse and the universe is one of many much like our galaxy is one of many also seems plausible to me.

2. Ah, well i guess i answered that in no.1, if indeed we live in a multiverse i.e billions of universes in space then that would be correct.
However this is impossible to prove given current technologies, the universe is indeed expanding which suggests that at one point in time (approx 15 billion years ago) the universe was very very small, what started the big bang, may hint towards a multiverse, maybe via some other spatial dimension in the multiverse a new universe was born , which started the big bang in our space dimensions , and the birth of a new universe in a sea of many. But who knows we are unable to prove what might have happened before time zero, so any theories at our stage of understanding are purely guess work and inconclusive, and well opions based on no proof.

3. Time is an interesting concept. I suppose it could be thought of in 2 ways. Either it is purely something we as humans have created due to the way our brains operate and the need for well time. Or time is indeed part of the universe and is a fundamental element of everything.
Its most useful reading about how time and space is affected near hugely gravitating bodies in the universe such as near black holes, also the curvature of space and time affects orbits of the planets in a similar way that space and time is distorted near a black hole.

4. This is perhaps a concept that we create as humans but due to our level of logic and thinking has no answer. If you say to someone well the universe isnt expaning into anything, usually someone will say thats impossible or i cant comprehend that. Therein in lies the route to answer. Again with this kind of question there is unfortuately currently no way of determing the truth. In my opion the universe being all that there is, is expanding , in 3 dimensions seemingly into an infinite space. We again suffer with the word infinity its a seemingly incomprehendable word, but shouldnt be unrecognised just because we as humans cant fathom it.

5. Why are we alive? Reproduction. Simply put we live to further our existence as a species. If you get further into these kind of questions, you work down a religous path asking yourself what is the meaning of life etc.

6. Thats why i love science, because as time goes by we broaden what we know and i bet by the end of our generation we will have evolved as a civilisation even further and can answer these kind of questions with more certainty. If anyone else is i suppose a bit of a "geek" like me, you will be interested in the forthcoming results of the LHC in CERN geneva, this will recreate conditions that were present at a time very very close to the big bang, and will after some very clever people analyse the results give us some amazing insights.

With all these question i have stated my views on, there is an underlying theme, that without facts no one theory carries any weight and none of the above questions can indeed be answered with any great deal of certainly. I can only try and be as clear and logical as possible in my views and hope they reflect some truth.