should Paul McCartney give Heather £50M out of his £825M fortune

[FictitiousHouse]

I am watching the news and Heather McCartney is going to defend herself in this big divorce settlement. She wants £50M and he has offered half that amount but 'Mucca' had a fling and 'Macca' found out. Then reduced the offer to £10M I dont know why he is making such a song and dance about it...Just pay the bitch and get it over with. He has got more money than he will ever need to spend in his lifetime or his five childrens either.

[Billy]

He might aswell give it to her, and shut herup.

[Matt10k]

Why 50 million though? That’s a figure she’s just decided on. She should except the 10 million and bugger off, the greedy bitch. His talent gave him his money and he worked for it. She just married him for a couple of years and basically used him.


10 mil is enough for anyone, enough for her to live a life of luxury for the rest of her life. If he really wanted to give 50 mil away he should give it to someone who really needs it like a cancer charity or something.

[Spike]

She should get more off him. I say take him for every penny he has got

[Shaun]

He should give her a bloody slap.

[FictitiousHouse]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Why 50 million though? That’s a figure she’s just decided on. She should except the 10 million and bugger off, the greedy bitch. His talent gave him his money and he worked for it. She just married him for a couple of years and basically used him.


10 mil is enough for anyone, enough for her to live a life of luxury for the rest of her life. If he really wanted to give 50 mil away he should give it to someone who really needs it like a cancer charity or something.

I would imagine that she sought advice from her solicitor and the figure of £50 M came up. It is not a fortune when you look at the £825 M Macca already has. I agree it is unfortunate that their relationship only lasted for a couple of years...but when Macca fell for Mucca :tongue: they would expect it to be long-lasting...never any guarantees sadly. There is a saying 'my ex-wife took me to the cleaners' it is hardly happening here. My wife has more power than Heather Mccartney, she would take me to the cleaners :bawling: Also she may feel that £50 M is quite generous. He would still have £775 M left. He did work hard for his money, but when it comes to a divorce settlement...there are no sweethearts in business :tongue:

[Mrluvaluva]

I thought he was worth 725M?

[FictitiousHouse]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
I thought he was worth 725M?

They said £825 M on the news, he could be worth a lot more with all that Beatles memorabilia he has.

[Mrluvaluva]

I was looking at this thread where he is 102nd.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=58237#pid719662

It is nearly a year old now though. He has earnt a lot in almost 1 year then. 100 million?

[Captain.Remy]

But why doesn't he give it to me ? :bigsmile: Promise I will share with Luva.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But why doesn't he give it to me ? :bigsmile: Promise I will share with Luva.

Deal! I am up for that!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But why doesn't he give it to me ? :bigsmile: Promise I will share with Luva.

Deal! I am up for that!

Nah I was joking about sharing with you. :laugh:

[FictitiousHouse]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
I was looking at this thread where he is 102nd.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=58237#pid719662

It is nearly a year old now though. He has earnt a lot in almost 1 year then. 100 million?

I was only going by what I heard on the news today. Maybe they got it wrong

[GiRTh]

If he only gives her 50 mil then he's got off lightly. I saw a documentary on Heather about six months ago. In it a couple of journos stated quite categorically that if she managed to get her hands on half of Sir Pauls fortune they'd make sure she never received any positive press ever again. She should take the money and get on with her life.

[molecular]

hope she get nothin. she a disgrace to humanityh and if she get nothin maybe other people like her wont try it in fututre.:cloud:

[Matt08]

She only deserves about £400,000 or less. She only married him for the money. All of his money is what HE'S earnt and not what that stupid bitch has earnt. He should have the child, she doesn't deserve her.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Nah I was joking about sharing with you. :laugh:

:shocked: I should have known!

[Spike]

She married him for his money, so what? He has plenty and I would have done the same, but instead of asking for £50M it would be more like £400M in my divorce.

Go Heather, hope she gets plenty of money out of him

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Spike
She married him for his money, so what? He has plenty and I would have done the same, but instead of asking for £50M it would be more like £400M in my divorce.

Go Heather, hope she gets plenty of money out of him There are a lot of people looking out for Sir Paul in this matter. It would be very poor tactics by Heather to go for a long drawn out legal battle to try and get half of his fortune as it would enrage the army of powerful friends Sir Paul has on his side. She's better off taking the money (Only £50Mil!!!!) and trying to rebuild her life.

[Wasted]

What the actual ****? Like £10m isn't enough already? She should've taken it when it was £25m and then shut up. :shocked:

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Spike
She married him for his money, so what? He has plenty and I would have done the same, but instead of asking for £50M it would be more like £400M in my divorce.

Go Heather, hope she gets plenty of money out of him

Then you're a very shallow and selfish individual with absolutely no morals :bigsmile:

[Spike]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Spike
She married him for his money, so what? He has plenty and I would have done the same, but instead of asking for £50M it would be more like £400M in my divorce.

Go Heather, hope she gets plenty of money out of him

Then you're a very shallow and selfish individual with absolutely no morals :bigsmile:

Thats me :hugesmile:

[Matt10k]

If I were paul, everytime she asked for more, I'd offer her less until she wished she'd just took the 25 mil offer back when it was on a plate.

[Tom]

Its buttons to him so he might as well do it just to shut her up. However, he is not as innocent in all of this as made out. Heather is being portrayed by the media as this evil, money grabbing bitch. Yes, she is one because if £25m is not enough for her to live on then she must have an extreme lifestyle. But I object to people wearing rose tinted glasses when looking at him. He isn't how people might think he is.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Tom_
Its buttons to him so he might as well do it just to shut her up. However, he is not as innocent in all of this as made out. Heather is being portrayed by the media as this evil, money grabbing bitch. Yes, she is one because if £25m is not enough for her to live on then she must have an extreme lifestyle. But I object to people wearing rose tinted glasses when looking at him. He isn't how people might think he is.

But she's pretty low. She's clearly a compulsive liar. I read some quite unsavory things about her, such as the fact she claims to have given to charities who seem to think otherwise, the fact a neighbour accused her of killing her dog, the way she stated paul used to attack her which she later withdrew. You're right, she should have took the 25 mil. She'd be lucky to get anything.

[Mrluvaluva]

I read today she wants 80M.

[FictitiousHouse]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
I read today she wants 80M.

Shes no chance :whistle:

[Xander]

No way!

I hate her, she suchs a liar. We will probably find out shes lying about her fake leg.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Xander
No way!

I hate her, she suchs a liar. We will probably find out shes lying about her fake leg.

You are tricked into believing she is a liar though the power of the media. I don't like her, but how do you know that Paul isn't any worse than she is? And how do you know she is even that bad in the first place?

[Dan_]

I don't think she deserves much of his money at all to be honest.He earned that money so I don't see why after a few years of marriage she should be entitled to a large chunk of it.

Money so the child can maintain a really comfortable lifestyle is about all she should get in my view.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Xander
No way!

I hate her, she suchs a liar. We will probably find out shes lying about her fake leg.

You are tricked into believing she is a liar though the power of the media. I don't like her, but how do you know that Paul isn't any worse than she is? And how do you know she is even that bad in the first place?

It's not just the media though. Many people she's known in the past and also a couple of reputable charities claimed she's been telling porkies!

Don't know about you but I really stop trusting people after the first couple of lies and it's pretty obvious she's lied about quite a few things.

See my earlier post where I said she stated paul had been physically abusive to her but then later withdrew it. Clearly a compulsive liar and not a nice person at all. She’ll do anything to try n get her mitts on maccas hard earned cash!

Now Macca isn't my favourite person either but I still think he's been unlucky to get involved with that skank. Stupid greedy cow should take the sum of 10 mil and be happy with it. It's a hell of a lot more than 99% of the population are likely to get after a lifetime of hard graft so she should be grateful because in a perfect world, a person like her would get nothing.

[Billy]

About her leg, hse probably is lying. She always walks around normal, then as soon as the going gets tough she gets the leg out n starts limping

[Sunny_01]

I think that it is a sad state of affairs when people are arguing about such huge sums of money.

She was married to him for 4 years and IMO he has made a more than reasonable offer to her that would allow her to live her life out in luxury. It shouldnt be about how much that leaves him with, it should be about the fact he has offered her a huge amount of money yet she continues to pursue him for more. I am not sure what she feels she has done in 4 years that earns her more than that. Why does she deserve more than that?

I am sure Paul will make sure Beatrice is well catered for in his will so it really isnt about securing things for her daughter, it is about her and how she wants to live.

I used to really feel for her, I felt she was portrayed in a really bad light through biased reporting but like Matt feel she has told many so many lies that she is just not credible anymore.

Also lets remember that the fortune Paul has built also was built with the help of his first love Linda. She was integral in Pauls continued success over the years, she also was very successful herself and I am sure some of that money will be hers so why does Heather think she should gain from that?

[bananarama]

The problem is not so much with Paul or Heather. The problem is with the law makers that have made possible such crazy claims on a persons wealth just because a relationship has failed after a mere 4 years.

The childdren of such a failed marriage should be the deciding factor as to a settlement and not how much one side can screw out of the other. Another example of the law being one huge ass along with the idiots that draw such laws up.......

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Billy21
About her leg, hse probably is lying. She always walks around normal, then as soon as the going gets tough she gets the leg out n starts limping LOL
The leg is genuine. But, this does demonstrate how little we trust her.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Billy21
About her leg, hse probably is lying. She always walks around normal, then as soon as the going gets tough she gets the leg out n starts limping

As well as her walking stick and massive folder of press cuttings she drags around to every interview with her :spin2:

[Billy]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Billy21
About her leg, hse probably is lying. She always walks around normal, then as soon as the going gets tough she gets the leg out n starts limping

As well as her walking stick and massive folder of press cuttings she drags around to every interview with her :spin2:

YES, have you noticed one day shel walk around fine, then when she's at court, she's got her walking stick.

[Ruth]

Got no time for either of them. I've never heard of anyone who has ever met Paul McCartney who has a good thing to say about him.

I say he should give her the money. She may be horrible but he married her, and she has his child. He has more money than he could ever hope to spend in his entire life, and he won't even miss it. And it serves him right for being vain enough to believe that she ever wanted him for anything more than his money.

[Matt10k]

I heard she got over 50 million? Hope she's happy. Perhaps she could give a proportion of it to charity; redeem herself somewhat.

Who needs 50 mil anyway? I wouldn't know what to do with it all...

Still, Ruth summed them both up pretty well.

[~Kizwiz~]

£40m is a vast amount of money.

She has only been married to him for 4 years. He made the majority of his money before he even met her.

I youtube'd her gmtv interview and I am sorry but those tears and choked words were all for the cameras. If she was that upset she would have continued to be upset but she didnt, she quickly got back into ranting!

Maybe being married to Paul wasnt what she envisaged but it doesnt mean she can have a chunk of his assets.

[Billy]

Her GMTV interview was really genuine imo.

[GiRTh]

Puurlease.:rolleyes:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Billy21
Her GMTV interview was really genuine imo.

:shocked:

Serious??

[Billy]

Yeah I did.

Everything she said in the interview was true though, about the media etc.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Billy21
Yeah I did.

Everything she said in the interview was true though, about the media etc. LMAO

It was just I saw in that documentary. Heather must suerly beleive she will never get good press again.

[Ross]

Heather Mills and Paul McCartney ended their weeklong divorce hearing on Monday.

The pair were unable to reach an agreement in their bitter divorce battle.

What does that mean????

A a judge will now impose a spend several weeks working out a settlement and he will decide how much Heather gets and all details of their divorce settlement.

Source: Perez Hilton (http://perezhilton.com/2008-02-18-no-settlement-reached#respond)

[GiRTh]

I knew they hadn't settled. I was looking everywhere and couldnt find any details of a settlement.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Billy21
Her GMTV interview was really genuine imo. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGXQB3o_gnc

Here it is. She starts blubbing at 3.30 in to it. No tears though.:whistle::spin2:

EDIT: I like the bit about spending four months on her back. What? Again? :joker::spin2:

[~Kizwiz~]

Worse press than a pedo or murder???????????

I think not :rolleyes:

[GiRTh]

She will have if she gets her hands on Sir Pauls money. LOL

[~Kizwiz~]

She is her own worst enemy to be fair.... going to court and asking for more money is making her out to be a money grabber!!!!!!!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
She is her own worst enemy to be fair.... going to court and asking for more money is making her out to be a money grabber!!!!!!!! She is. She just cant hide it.

[~Kizwiz~]

What was she offered in the first instance?

[GiRTh]

I think it was 50 mil. She should have took it. Bowed out with a bit of dignity to prove she wasn't after his money. LOL for even thinking she would ever do that. :joker:

[Billy]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Worse press than a pedo or murder???????????

I think not :rolleyes:

Yes she does, most pedos etc get about unnoticed, and she gets treated worse than them

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Worse press than a pedo or murder???????????

I think not :rolleyes:

Yes she does, most pedos etc get about unnoticed, and she gets treated worse than them So.:whistle:

[molecular]

Originally posted by Ruth
it serves him right for being vain enough to believe that she ever wanted him for anything more than his money.
cant belive just read that what this country comin to:rolleyes: paul mccratney in the beatles ye you might not know but theyt were big big deal in the sixty they icons of 20th century and one of things britian is very proud of. along come aging hag heather wants to get with a beatle course she would all women love beatles:rolleyes: got notihng to dop with he too vain it because he a genius and legend are you sayin anyone over the age of 60 should expect women the age of 40 who are nobodys and losin there looks dontg fancy thwem how ridiculous not everyone as evoil as heather mills how should paul know she pure evil:mad: paul mccartney is a legend and great m,an end of. beatles rulke

[Ruth]

Originally posted by molecular
Originally posted by Ruth
it serves him right for being vain enough to believe that she ever wanted him for anything more than his money.
cant belive just read that what this country comin to:rolleyes: paul mccratney in the beatles ye you might not know but theyt were big big deal in the sixty they icons of 20th century and one of things britian is very proud of. along come aging hag heather wants to get with a beatle course she would all women love beatles:rolleyes: got notihng to dop with he too vain it because he a genius and legend are you sayin anyone over the age of 60 should expect women the age of 40 who are nobodys and losin there looks dontg fancy thwem how ridiculous not everyone as evoil as heather mills how should paul know she pure evil:mad: paul mccartney is a legend and great m,an end of. beatles rulke

Okay, I have struggled to read your post, which appears to be written in double dutch.

Anyway....thanks for the 'lecture'. I'm well aware of who The Beatles are, and that they were icons 40 years ago.

Actually all women wouldn't love to get with a Beatle - I know plenty of women who wouldn't, myself included.

But if he (or you) knew anything about Heather Mills' background, it would have been quite obvious that she was after his money. His kids knew it, and tried to warn him but he didn't listen.

For clarification (something your post could do with a lot of): I am not saying that the only reason anybody would want to be with Paul McCartney is because of his money. I am saying that it was obvious that that was the only reason SHE wanted to be with him.

I am also not saying anything about the fact that he is over 60. That is completely irrelevant to the point I was making, and I have no idea why you brought that up.

By the way, just because you think that Macca is a great man, does not make it so.

George Harrison wrote all the best Beatles songs anyway IMO.

[molecular]

ehhhhhhhhhhhh wrong answer lenon wrote the best songs and harrison wrote good ones and mccratney wrote good ones when with lenon they all genius and stupid to use george as a way to make out paul not bein any good. reason i use the 60 thing is cause you said he vain to htink anythin other than money but that bollpcks there hundreds reasion why she might want to marry the beatles so bein vain dont come into at any point in the whole coversation so that another bit where yopur wrong.

x ill give you a cross for wrong
x and another for the other comment

i dont know about heather mills background alot but that really badc way to start re;ationship looking into someone history an d nitpicking why they might be after money or not. paul good man maybe he saw a tiny bit of good in the evil birtch and tnhought she was worth the ffort but it went wrong so what eveyrone make mistake. i think it completeyly ridiculouys to blame p[aul in any way which is what you did. its the evilbitvh fault.

[Ruth]

Again, I'm struggling to understand what you've written. However, I will say this. I said that George Harrison wrote the best Beatles songs in my opinion. There is no right and wrong about that. You don't think he did, I do. Neither of us are right and wrong.

You criticise me for going on about Heather's background, and yet all you can go on about is Paul's background. So which is it? Can we look at people's backgrounds or not?

Without wishing to be rude, I have to say that there's little point in discussing the matter with you, because your posts are very hard to understand, and also you seem to think that your opinion is fact, and anyone who thinks differently is wrong. Therefore trying to have a debate is a waste of time.

Again, McCartney's age is irrelevant to the whole point I was making.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by molecular
ehhhhhhhhhhhh wrong answer lenon wrote the best songs and harrison wrote good ones and mccratney wrote good ones when with lenon they all genius and stupid to use george as a way to make out paul not bein any good. reason i use the 60 thing is cause you said he vain to htink anythin other than money but that bollpcks there hundreds reasion why she might want to marry the beatles so bein vain dont come into at any point in the whole coversation so that another bit where yopur wrong.

x ill give you a cross for wrong
x and another for the other comment

i dont know about heather mills background alot but that really badc way to start re;ationship looking into someone history an d nitpicking why they might be after money or not. paul good man maybe he saw a tiny bit of good in the evil birtch and tnhought she was worth the ffort but it went wrong so what eveyrone make mistake. i think it completeyly ridiculouys to blame p[aul in any way which is what you did. its the evilbitvh fault.

I wish I could understand the point you are trying to make, maybe if you break your post down into more readable bite size pieces we could debate with you.

Ruth I am with you, I think that anyone who knows the background of money grabber Mills will see she didnt marry him for his looks and charismatic personality. I also agree Harrison wrote the better songs.

Lovely to see you back Ruth xxx

[Ruth]

Thank you Sunny, it's lovely to see you here:flower:

[MarkWaldorf]

I do feel sorry for Heather, she's done loads of charity work and really fights for her cause (I'm very attached to Animal Rights so please respect my siding with her). There a lot of bad people in this world, and unfortunately Heather does get treated like one. I don't know much about their marriage, but as far as I know she hasn't done anything remotely terrible to him. She's just trying to get through a divorce.

[Sunny_01]

Mark I see your compassion and respect it but also need to point out that Sir Paul is also a huge supporter of animal rights, which is how Heather became so involved in the first place.

I feel sorry for the desperate state she has managed to dig herself into, she seems quite unstable but equally he has not done anything bad to her the same as she hasnt done anything really bad to him.

[MarkWaldorf]

Does Paul do it too? Ah I didn't know that. :tongue:

To me it just seems as if the public have made a huge deal out of it.

[molecular]

Originally posted by Ruth
Without wishing to be rude, I have to say that there's little point in discussing the matter with you, because your posts are very hard to understand, and also you seem to think that your opinion is fact, and anyone who thinks differently is wrong. Therefore trying to have a debate is a waste of time.

oinly say that causr you lost. it not a waste of time debate with me as i can teach you lot if you listen insted of making big deasl about george harrison akl the time. only song he did on level with eveything lenon did was something

[Ruth]

Molecular, I have you on ignore, so if you're responding to my post, I have no idea what you said!

[Ruth]

Originally posted by molecular
Originally posted by Ruth
Without wishing to be rude, I have to say that there's little point in discussing the matter with you, because your posts are very hard to understand, and also you seem to think that your opinion is fact, and anyone who thinks differently is wrong. Therefore trying to have a debate is a waste of time.

oinly say that causr you lost. it not a waste of time debate with me as i can teach you lot if you listen insted of making big deasl about george harrison akl the time. only song he did on level with eveything lenon did was something

Had to take you off ignore to read your post. Wish I hadn't bothered.

I didn't 'lose'. It's incredibly pathetic, arrogant, rude and immature of you to state that. I have a different opinion to you, neither of us is right or wrong, and if you don't have the intelligence to see that, it's not my problem.

I'm not sure you understand the difference between an opinion and a fact - maybe invest in a dictionary?

Edit: I didn't make a 'big deal' about George Harrison.

I strongly doubt that there's anything at all you could teach me.

[molecular]

could teach you not to be a sore loseer:spin2:

[molecular]

sorry rut couldnt resist doin this:tongue:
Originally posted by Ruth
George Harrison wrote all the best Beatles songs
Originally posted by Ruth
I didn't make a 'big deal' about George Harrison.
:shocked::thumbs2:

[Ruth]

Sigh.

You said that I "keep making a big deal about George Harrison all the time". Stating that he wrote all the best Beatles song in my opinion, is not "making a big deal all the time."

And I'm not a sore loser. There was no battle or argument to win or lose. It's very simple; I just don't know why you find that so difficult to understand. You will never be able to 'prove' who wrote the best Beatles songs, and neither will I, because it is a matter of opinion, no more no less. That's why I wrote "in my opinion" rather than stating it as fact, like you did.

Seriously, grow up.

[molecular]

that was sidetrack, i beat you in the other arguments awell like it serve paul right for bein vain to think she would like him. i think you bit of sore loser to stgart callin me names an stuff just because i win you dontg need to thropw dummy outy. ill have ypou another argument in other topics so you can get some points back if you like, you pick the topic.:wink:

[Ruth]

You know what? Believe what you like. I know the truth, which is that you didn't beat me in anything. A debate is not always a battle to be won or lost, you know.

[Sunny_01]

I think that you can only be the "winner" in a debate if you take the time to understand and accept where the other person is coming from, clearly Ruth has done this. She has read your posts and responded in an appropriate manner. You however have retaliated in a childish "I win" manner which just shows that you do not have the capacity to debate in a mature way.

Ruth I salute you for managing to remain mature even when someone is trying to provoke you into reacting in an immature manner.

[Ruth]

Thank you Sunny:hug:

[molecular]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think that you can only be the "winner" in a debate if you take the time to understand and accept where the other person is coming from, clearly Ruth has done this. She has read your posts and responded in an appropriate manner. You however have retaliated in a childish "I win" manner which just shows that you do not have the capacity to debate in a mature way.

Ruth I salute you for managing to remain mature even when someone is trying to provoke you into reacting in an immature manner.
:joker:whatever man whatever thats all i sayin

official - mccartney vain to think anyone would fancy him so he deserves everythin he get:laugh: cause these two say so and support each other in everythin they say no matter how silly it is:rolleyes:
whatever man - whatever:rolleyes:
oh lets not forget george harison songs are better than strawberry field forever,yesterday,day in the life,hey jude,help,hard day night,please please me,we can work it out,all you needs love,she leaving home,tomorrow never know,elener rigby,let it be,two of us,dig a pony,come together,across universe,:joker:sorry cant carry on im lauging to much. real intellgent opinoins we dealin with

ps dont worry bout the insults an name callin ruth i got a thick skin im not to bothered:wink:

[Ruth]

Do you understand the difference between 'official' and 'opinion'?

Do you understand that I am entitled to prefer 'Something' to 'Yesterday'?

Do you understand that as neither of us know Paul McCartney (I'm guessing you don't), I'm just as entitled to an opinion about him as you are?

Do you understand that I never said any of what I said was 'official'?

Do you understand that - shock, horror - not everybody has to agree with you?

Do you understand that in laughing at my opinions, you are being far ruder to me than I have been to you?

Do you understand that even if someone hates every song the Beatles ever made, that's fine too? That we are all entitled to an opinion?


Actually, don't bother answering - I'm putting you on Ignore again - do the same to me if you want.

[molecular]

ye ye i undertsand al tnhat. you really convinced yopuself you a whole lot cleverer than me havnt you:thumbs:. anyway all i was doing was drawing attention to this ridicuous comment
Originally posted by Ruth
it serves him right for being vain enough to believe that she ever wanted him for anything more than his money.
and its done now so all the other stuff dont matter much but i will teach you one thing about opinion.
'james blunt write better songs than bob dylan'-that could be a opinion but anyone who has a clue what they talking about knows it completely stupid thing to say.

[Sunny_01]

I see when someone manages to stop you in your tracks you take to the "whatever" route, well that highlights your inability to discuss things in a mature manner.

[molecular]

:laugh:stop me in my tracks. is that what happened:rolleyes:

it look to me like you just trying to side with you friend(schoolgirl tactic):rolleyes: didnt notice anythin true

[Ruth]

Honestly, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply again (I thought I had you on ignore, but I must not have). Anyway - regarding your comment about Bob Dylan - yeah, I agree with you in that in my opinion, Bob Dylan writes far better songs than James Blunt. But if someone else said that they thought James Blunt's songs were better, I would never think they were being stupid. I would just think that they had different taste to me. Unlike you, I don't think that what I think is the be-all and end-all.

As for whether I think I'm a lot cleverer than you - no I don't. I think you are incapable of having a rational debate though.

Sunny - thank you very much for your support - I do appreciate it:spin2: Sorry that you came in for a bit of stick because of it though.

I'm going to leave this thread alone now, because I have no doubt that despite what anyone says ever, Molecular will always be convinced that s/he (sorry Molecular, I don't know if you are male or female) is right, and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid.

[molecular]

Originally posted by Ruth
I have no doubt that despite what anyone says ever, Molecular will always be convinced that s/he (sorry Molecular, I don't know if you are male or female) is right, and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid.
god you go so over the top and dramatic just to avoid amitting your wrong.:rolleyes: i see that alot rounf here

[Ruth]

slowly....bangs.....head......against........keybo ard

[molecular]

:joker:for gods sake ruth calm down will you. its only rock an roll. how about we talk about someting else in another topic from now on:wink: fox huntin or northern ireland up to you:thumbs:

[northcircular]

well this four page discussion seems to have taken a turn for the worse. If it was a married couple arguing; I might say it would end in divorce from what a read. I'll try and offer a civilised response which for me; isn't difficult. as i do it often.

I love the beatles; always have, always will. I did assume that most of the songs were written by; lennon/mccartney. not george harrison. however I am no expert on the matter; not that it really matters in this divorce settlement anyhow.

I also like james blunt; but have never liked bob dylan. I find his vocals rather excruciating to be honest; I don't think I'm alone on that opinion. he did right some very good songs though and he is very talented and very rich to. I feel that he is very likely to die in the middle of a tour; no man/woman or child shall prevent him from singing on those many stages; he's been on that many all over the globe. I certainly couldn't manage what he has achieved; but I'd be much happier at a james blunt concert; which I may goto one day.

in regards to who is the best songwriters; well that is always up to the fan of the artist or group. personal preferance basically. I'd be honest and say that they are all equally good songwriters and nobody should really say for sure which is better; because it can't be proven. just because an artist or a group is successful; doesn't mean that they are better songwriters than someone who is less successful; does it?

anyway I can see this divorce settlement that paul mccartney and heather mills/mccartney are going through is never going to be easy. I really can't say that we can blame any one of them in particular; only they know the real truth. perhaps she only wanted him for his money. perhaps she really loved him; but paul mccartney treated her badly in some way or they just couldn't get along like paul and linda mccartney got along. they were together for a long time and when linda died; it hit paul really badly and then trying to rekindle the feelings he once had with linda and try to replace her with heather just didn't work for him. perhaps he reacted badly; who can really say.

I know heather is seeking a large amount of money off paul and it may be too much. heather will have her reasons for that and paul will have his reasons for not wanting to give her as much as that. personally I say; (I've heard this kind of story; time and time again) a celebrity and his wife or husband wants a divorce and they want a load of his or her money. the story never changes; just let them get on with it and if heather wins and gets more than paul wants to give her; it's no real great loss to him anyway; plus the fact that heather will never ever get the chance to spend it all anyway. it's more money than any of us here will ever get to see or spend; ha.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by northcircular
well this four page discussion seems to have taken a turn for the worse. If it was a married couple arguing; I might say it would end in divorce from what a read. I'll try and offer a civilised response which for me; isn't difficult. as i do it often.

I love the beatles; always have, always will. I did assume that most of the songs were written by; lennon/mccartney. not george harrison. however I am no expert on the matter; not that it really matters in this divorce settlement anyhow.

I also like james blunt; but have never liked bob dylan. I find his vocals rather excruciating to be honest; I don't think I'm alone on that opinion. he did right some very good songs though and he is very talented and very rich to. I feel that he is very likely to die in the middle of a tour; no man/woman or child shall prevent him from singing on those many stages; he's been on that many all over the globe. I certainly couldn't manage what he has achieved; but I'd be much happier at a james blunt concert; which I may goto one day.

in regards to who is the best songwriters; well that is always up to the fan of the artist or group. personal preferance basically. I'd be honest and say that they are all equally good songwriters and nobody should really say for sure which is better; because it can't be proven. just because an artist or a group is successful; doesn't mean that they are better songwriters than someone who is less successful; does it?

anyway I can see this divorce settlement that paul mccartney and heather mills/mccartney are going through is never going to be easy. I really can't say that we can blame any one of them in particular; only they know the real truth. perhaps she only wanted him for his money. perhaps she really loved him; but paul mccartney treated her badly in some way or they just couldn't get along like paul and linda mccartney got along. they were together for a long time and when linda died; it hit paul really badly and then trying to rekindle the feelings he once had with linda and try to replace her with heather just didn't work for him. perhaps he reacted badly; who can really say.

I know heather is seeking a large amount of money off paul and it may be too much. heather will have her reasons for that and paul will have his reasons for not wanting to give her as much as that. personally I say; (I've heard this kind of story; time and time again) a celebrity and his wife or husband wants a divorce and they want a load of his or her money. the story never changes; just let them get on with it and if heather wins and gets more than paul wants to give her; it's no real great loss to him anyway; plus the fact that heather will never ever get the chance to spend it all anyway. it's more money than any of us here will ever get to see or spend; ha.

Hello Nodis :xyxwave:

Soooooooo pleased to see your back :rolleyes:..... will you be staying long?:wink:

[Billy]

LMAO Kiz.


What age are you today Nodis? 18? 30? 106?

[Scarlett.]

NO! Paul should give it to me!:wavey:

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by molecular
:laugh:stop me in my tracks. is that what happened:rolleyes:

it look to me like you just trying to side with you friend(schoolgirl tactic):rolleyes: didnt notice anythin true

I side with the person who provides the most reasonable debate and of course with someone who's views I agree with. Had you made points that "I" felt were valid I would most certainly have sided with you. You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like, but of course I could be wrong but I think I will have a closer look at your profile:dance2:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like, but of course I could be wrong but I think I will have a closer look at your profile:dance2:

This must be the outing thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as i am concerned Heather doesnt deserve 30/40/50 million. She was with him for only 4 years. Its not like she helped him with his career.

She should get enough to keep her comfortable.

As for needing security, thats her problem is she doesnt have the cash to cough up for that then she should down scale slightly on where she lives

[molecular]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
You know you seem awfully familiar to me, you sound like hmmmmm let me think "hitman" yep thats who you sound like
hey didnt you say same thing to my mate ron 21 back when he was beating everyone in those arguments.:whistle:

ive learned already the in crowd on here are really bad losers:tongue:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by molecular

ive learned already the in crowd on here are really bad losers:tongue:

And who would that be then?

[Mrluvaluva]

OOh. And molecular was so far up Ron21's backside it hurt.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
OOh. And molecular was so far up Ron21's backside it hurt.

LMFAO!!!!!!

I am soooo confused at the moment, there seems to be all sorts of mix up with who is who, but do tell me, arent ron21 and the chosen one the same person? Doesnt that make ron21 and the hitman one in the same too?

[Mrluvaluva]

Thechosenone was the hitman. If Ron21 was thechosenone then it does.

[~Kizwiz~]

So many disguises..... only a few hidden behind them

[Shaun]

I reckon we're all Nodis.

*twilight theme tune plays*

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Shaun
I reckon we're all Nodis.

*twilight theme tune plays*

Ha ha ha ha ha ha :laugh2:

*looks around suspectingly*

[Mrluvaluva]

3 trolls in one thread eh? And one of them under 2 different guises. Is that a record?

[molecular]

oh no mrluvaluva the trolls back:rolleyes:

kiziwz i answer you question buit i wont name the names itll mnake me more upopular than i already am. ill use mrluvaluva as example seein as he kind enough to poke his nose in again.:spin2:

a few weels ago this guy called ron21 came on this forum and made some tiopics to start some debates and have some arguments. he was good debater and noone could beat him but he was a bit rude to some peole after they been rude to him aswell so he started makin lots of enemys. me and matt10k both said to ron you make good debates but you need to stop bein rude otherwise people get upset. more an more people came out of nowhere an got involved trying to beat ron in the arguments but he kept beating them all, it was really funny i have to admit but all the in crowd on this forum really hated it an ron started gettin loads and loads of stick. eventually ron got banned.

i got a bit invloved one day when mrluvaluva was arguin with ron gettin a real beating an ron made him look pretty foolish, i said to luvaluva just leave it cause it was gettin uncomfortable an he got mad at me to and we argued for a couple of days cause i said ron was right an he was:whistle: i thought that was the end of it but my karms went down loooaaads. :shocked:

what i learned is that if you beat in crowd in an argument on here thay all pile in an throw insults an karms go down. like mine has today:wink:

[Mrluvaluva]

It's troll time! Lol. How many times have I seen you being rude to members molecular? Ron21 was too. He didn't have constructive debates. He tried to ridicule people and take pot shots at them. It seems to me that you cannot either, and resort to petty insults because you are not intelligent enough to have a constructive debate. It's not a question of "winning" as you seem to think it is.

[Scarlett.]

I think Heather should get it, she is in debt over lawyers fees

[~Kizwiz~]

Ohh yeah I remember that, but I dont remember ron21 beating anyone and he was so so similar to another usernames disguise..... but its all merges into one really. You see 'molecular' when it comes to debating you tend to think you are the master. Sadly, the 'I win I win' route doesnt really make you look very clever or big for that matter.

[molecular]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
You see 'molecular' when it comes to debating you tend to think you are the master.
:joker:thats insane thing to say, im rubbish at debating. i can only remeber winning once an it against ruth in this topic. i had argument with spitrfire aswell about northern ireland but itg wernt really debate it was just him givin wrong info.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by molecular

i can only remeber winning once an it against ruth in this topic.

I can't see any evidence of you "winning" anything? If you ever do. Let me know. I will personally send you a dictionary.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by molecular

:joker: Im rubbish at debating. i can only remeber winning once an it against ruth in this topic.

The thing is 'molecular' I dont see any evidence of winning the debate here, because really, the only thing which has been discussed in the form of debating is whether Heather Mills should get x amount of money. Ruth has been debating but you sadly have reduced it to playground fighting which in all fairness is really isnt debating is it?

[Sunny_01]

debating is not about winning, it is about sharing opinions and if you succeed in convincing someone else that you may be right or at least provoke them into thinking you might be right then yeah you have succeeded. Debating is not saying, this is my opinion, I am right, you are wrong so ner ner.

Being rude to members in an attempt to brow beat them is not pleasant and not acceptable either. As for the so called "IN" crowd, well it is really easy to become a member. You just have to be a little more pleasant, a little more friendly and a lot less abrassive. It isnt a secret gang, it is just a huge network of people who choose to get along for the sake of the forum. That in no way means you have to sacrifice your opinions, you just have to develop the ability to deliver them in a mature manner that can be respected by people, something which seems lost on you.

As for Ron21 I actually thought the guy was ok, I didnt agree with all of his opinions, but I certainly respected his ability to debate and research information. He knew his stuff, which provoked me to think, unlike your thoughts molecular, they provoke no real thought other than very childsih ones which I will not indulge in.

So back to topic then, does she deserve a big pay out?

[molecular]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
I dont see any evidence of winning the debate here
people say same thing to ron21. just random people appear out of nowhere saying no you wrong ron blah blah blah and makin no good argument at all. i was on noone side at the time i was just sat back an readin it and ron was winning loads of debates with loads of people but about 5 or 10 people were just sayin no no no no rons wrong rons wrong just because they coujld nt have a debate. not everyone wants to become part of the in crowd some people just want to debate independant.

ok i admit i didnt really win a debate with ruth i just pointed out a silly comment she make but she didnt take it back when i point it out so it as much her fault as me for it becomin childish. and she was the one to take the mick out of my writin. im not bad at writin and i can sometime be better at debatin but whats the point on this forum when everyone throw the toys out the pram when someone like ron21 come along and is good debater. ron was 95% debating and 5% insults, he should be alloowed a bit of insults if everyone else is 100% insults you see what im saying.

an ruth im not fallen out with you but you did talk to me like ****** you know.
anyway got to go now. bye

[GiRTh]

Heather Mills says she is "very, very pleased" with her £24.3m divorce payout - but has questioned the judge's evaluation of Sir Paul McCartney's estate.

Mills 'very pleased' with settlementMr Justice Bennett valued the 65-year-old former Beatle at £400m.

But speaking outside the court, Ms Mills said "everybody knows" he was worth twice that amount.

"A lot of strange things have been going on behind the scenes," she told reporters.

"I won't go into all the horrific details of what has happened because I'm just glad it's over."

She said she would not appeal the decision but intended to appeal against the ruling to make the judgement public.

She said this was because it included private details about the couple's daughter Beatrice, such as where she goes to school.

Sir Paul, who made no comment after the award, is said to be keen to make the public aware of the details of the divorce.

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Asked if she thought the former Beatle had been "cruel", Ms Mills said: "I can't say that for the sake of my daughter but my sister does."

She insisted Sir Paul had always wanted the judgement to be public "because he wants to look like this generous Sir Paul".

In a public summary of the judgement, it was confirmed McCartney had been ordered to pay Ms Mills £16.5m, which in addition to her personal assets of £7.8m sees her leave the marriage with £24.3m.

That total is said to include £500,000 that refers to "overspending in the period of separation".

The judgement also revealed Ms Mills had sought an award of £125m, while Sir Paul's initial offer was in the region of £15.8m.


Sir Paul declined to commentAsked if it had been a mistake to represent herself, Ms Mills replied: "Not at all. Lawyers couldn't get anywhere near this figure."

In an outspoken statement outside the High Court, she confirmed four-year-old Beatrice would get only £35,000 a year.

"So, she's obviously meant to travel B class while her father travels A class - but obviously I will pay for that," she said.

She also confirmed her intention to remain in Britain following the conclusion of the divorce, after speculation she would leave the country after the case.

Reacting to Ms Mills statement, Sky News reporter Sara Merchant said: "It's not just the money, she also wants her reputation back.

"Throughout the case, she has been portrayed in an unfavourable light."

The pair, who split in May 2006 after four years together, failed to come to an agreement during a six-day hearing at the High Court in February.

Original Article here (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1309577,00.html)

[GiRTh]

It looks like Sir Paul has got his share of the divorce settlment. LOL