Kylie SOOOO Got The Sympathy Vote [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

Wasted

20-02-2008, 10:03 PM

X is a joke in comparison to Good Girl Gone Bad or As I Am. Rihanna and Alicia Keys were much worthier candidates. I don't know if it was a sympathy vote, but it was certainly a terrible choice.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:04 PM

Message original : Billy21
Because IMO (and obviously others), Kylie is 100 times better than Rihanna

I second Billy.
Kylie is a legend in this industry, Rihanna is a new girl, too fresh to be a rival against Kylie.
It's like if you put Madonna against Amy Winehouse.

Callum

20-02-2008, 10:04 PM

B'COZ KYLIE IS 10000000x TIMES BETTER THAN THE GOOD GIRL GONE BAD :yuk:

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:05 PM

Umbrella,Dont Stop the Music and Shut UP And Drive are all better then 2Heats and Wow IMO.I can understand why Alicia didnt get it as shes not as big in the UK as she is in every other country.

Arneldo

20-02-2008, 10:07 PM

Rubbish. Kylie is extremely talented, and her music is well very well appreciated in the industry.

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Billy21
Because IMO (and obviously others), Kylie is 100 times better than Rihanna

I second Billy.
Kylie is a legend in this industry, Rihanna is a new girl, too fresh to be a rival against Kylie.
It's like if you put Madonna against Amy Winehouse.

but from 2007 Kylie released one good song(2 Hearts) and Rihanna released an amazing song(Umbrella) and 2 good songs so Rihanna deserves way more.and al reviews and sales clearly state Rihannas album is better

xDramatick

20-02-2008, 10:08 PM

Oh stop complainin ¬__¬
Seriously. I third Billy.

She won because she has an incredible album out, amazing singles, and no, maybe not as successful as Rihanna, but success doesn't necessarily mean anything. Kylie DESERVED that award as much as any of the other nominees, and I think it's unfair to say she got the sympathy vote.

What would you have said if she hadn't had cancer?

Callum

20-02-2008, 10:09 PM

Ark at you Cathal, what a sore loser.

supernoodles!

20-02-2008, 10:09 PM

Its funny how in the 80`s when Kylie was out first time around she was a total and utter joke,known for cheesy pop!Now she is some sort of sex symbol and 'legend'
Rhianna should have won and I thought she would have

Pipergun

20-02-2008, 10:09 PM

I think it's a real shame Rihanna didn't win.

I'm not denying that Kylie's a huge star who's been around for donkey's years, but these are the 2008 Brit Awards.

"Umbrella", "Don't Stop The Music", "Shut Up And Drive", "Hate That I Love You"

Against

"2 Hearts" and "Wow"

Rihanna was the rightful winner in my eyes.

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Pipergun
I think it's a real shame Rihanna didn't win.

I'm not denying that Kylie's a huge star who's been around for donkey's years, but these are the 2008 Brit Awards.

"Umbrella", "Don't Stop The Music", "Shut Up And Drive", "Hate That I Love You"

Against

"2 Hearts" and "Wow"

Rihanna was the rightful winner in my eyes.

Exactly

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by *Cathal*
Originally posted by Pipergun
I think it's a real shame Rihanna didn't win.

I'm not denying that Kylie's a huge star who's been around for donkey's years, but these are the 2008 Brit Awards.

"Umbrella", "Don't Stop The Music", "Shut Up And Drive", "Hate That I Love You"

Against

"2 Hearts" and "Wow"

Rihanna was the rightful winner in my eyes.

Exactly

oh and BTW WOow isnt counted because its only just been released.

Billy

20-02-2008, 10:12 PM

Why was it the sympathy vote though? People may prefer Rihannas music in 2008, but it doesnt mean it was the sympathy vote.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:13 PM

Message original : *Cathal*
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Billy21
Because IMO (and obviously others), Kylie is 100 times better than Rihanna

I second Billy.
Kylie is a legend in this industry, Rihanna is a new girl, too fresh to be a rival against Kylie.
It's like if you put Madonna against Amy Winehouse.

but from 2007 Kylie released one good song(2 Hearts) and Rihanna released an amazing song(Umbrella) and 2 good songs so Rihanna deserves way more.and al reviews and sales clearly state Rihannas album is better

Excuse me but the day Rihanna will do what Kylie has done in the industry (a revolution literally) then you will claim that Kylie is rubbish because so far, Rihanna provided 3 good songs and 2 albums and Kylie is there for more than 20 years.
Kylie beats by miles Rihanna, there is nothing to debate about.

xDramatick

20-02-2008, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : *Cathal*
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Billy21
Because IMO (and obviously others), Kylie is 100 times better than Rihanna

I second Billy.
Kylie is a legend in this industry, Rihanna is a new girl, too fresh to be a rival against Kylie.
It's like if you put Madonna against Amy Winehouse.

but from 2007 Kylie released one good song(2 Hearts) and Rihanna released an amazing song(Umbrella) and 2 good songs so Rihanna deserves way more.and al reviews and sales clearly state Rihannas album is better

Excuse me but the day Rihanna will do what Kylie has done in the industry (a revolution literally) then you will claim that Kylie is rubbish because so far, Rihanna provided 3 good songs and 2 albums and Kylie is there for more than 20 years.
Kylie beats by miles Rihanna, there is nothing to debate about.

Agreed.
Well said Remy.

Callum

20-02-2008, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Billy21
Why was it the sympathy vote though? People may prefer Rihannas music in 2008, but it doesnt mean it was the sympathy vote.

Exactly. That's so true

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:16 PM

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:17 PM

And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

Billy

20-02-2008, 10:18 PM

And regading the sales: I think your forgetting Rihannas album came out in the summer, Kylies was out in like November

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:19 PM

Message original : *Cathal*
yeah but in 2007 Kylie released one song and Rihanna released 4.Im 1000% sure that over 90% of people would agree that in 2007 Rihanna was the better artist.in this case 10/20 years doesent matter.

So what's the matter about the number of songs they released ?
So explain me how Kylie won with 90% thinking Rihanna was better ? I mean, people don't really care what year it is, and I definately much prefer Kylie's than Rihanna's, at least it's original.

Pipergun

20-02-2008, 10:19 PM

Although I would've preferred Rihanna to win, I don't think it's possible that Kylie won through votes of sympathy.

The public didn't have any hand in voting for the 'International Female', it was down to a select panel, including members of record companies, sponsors, producers etc.

dupin

20-02-2008, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

What annoys me is that people claim she's "amazing" and an "inspiration" for getting through breast cancer, whilst there's millions of woman with breast cancer who don't have all that money to pay for the treatment, and who don't have the international support and are able to get the top doctors in the world. Surely those women are more inspirational than Kylie and deserve to be called so more than her?

Pipergun

20-02-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by dupin
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

What annoys me is that people claim she's "amazing" and an "inspiration" for getting through breast cancer, whilst there's millions of woman with breast cancer who don't have all that money to pay for the treatment, and who don't have the international support and are able to get the top doctors in the world. Surely those women are more inspirational than Kylie and deserve to be called so more than her?

I completely and utterly agree! Really well put! :thumbs:

xDramatick

20-02-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

Agreed.
If she had won and not had cancer, what would they say?
she won because she's old? australian? white?
ridiculous.

&Yeah.
What Billy said.
Rihanna's songs did come out ages before Kylie's.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:22 PM

Message original : dupin
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

What annoys me is that people claim she's "amazing" and an "inspiration" for getting through breast cancer, whilst there's millions of woman with breast cancer who don't have all that money to pay for the treatment, and who don't have the international support and are able to get the top doctors in the world. Surely those women are more inspirational than Kylie and deserve to be called so more than her?

Explain me how ? Because she has money then she's less important ? What you mean doesn't have any sence. Then we shouldn't care about Kylie because she's a star ? Oh then she has to apologise if she had a cancer !
And yes she is amazing, I didn't say she was the only one, but she managed to do something extraordinary and I'm sure millions of women did amazing things on their side.

Jack

20-02-2008, 10:25 PM

Kylie deserved to win definitely. Her album is very good and she's a fantastic performer.

supernoodles!

20-02-2008, 10:25 PM

all the winners tonight were so boring....
take that ....they could send me to sleep with some of their songs there songs were much better 1st time around

kylie....something for the over 30 men of the uk to ogle i guess

Paul Mc Cartney...wtf this is the 2008 brits not the 1968 brits,ok so i know it was the lifetime award thingy but shouldn`t that mean the winner has been releasing songs consecutively?Or does that daft song with the banjo make him a dignified winner?

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Daren
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
And by the way, people say it's the "sympathy vote" because she had a cancer ? This is just ridiculous, with what happened to her, she managed to make such an amazing album and great live performances.

Agreed.
If she had won and not had cancer, what would they say?
she won because she's old? australian? white?
ridiculous.

&Yeah.
What Billy said.
Rihanna's songs did come out ages before Kylie's.

if Kylie didnt have cancer and she stiil won over Rihanna and Alicia Keys then iu would be soo pissed of but i wouldent say anything honestly.Alicia Keys,vocaly(in 2007)is miles better then Kylie

xDramatick

20-02-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by supernoodles!
kylie....something for the over 30 men of the uk to ogle i guess

I LOVE Kylie.
I think she's beautiful, and an amazing performer.

&I'm a sixteen year old boy.

I agree about Paul McCartney+TakeThat though.

Arneldo

20-02-2008, 10:30 PM

This is about the best music in the last 12 months. Also, people dont decide based on how many singles a singer has had - its based on the quality of the music. On that note - Kylie was a worthy winner IMO

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:30 PM

Message original : *Cathal*
Alicia Keys,vocaly(in 2007)is miles better then Kylies

You can't compare it ! They have 2 different styles and voices, at least, we can judge them if they get the same songs. It's like Leona against Amy Winehouse.

Xander

20-02-2008, 10:31 PM

Kylie been in the music buisness since 1989, or somewhere around that time.

Rihianna 2006 onwords( i think)

See what im trying to say.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:32 PM

Message original : Arneldo
This is about the best music in the last 12 months. Also, people dont decide based on how many singles a singer has had - its based on the quality of the music. On that note - Kylie was a worthy winner IMO

I second you. She made a great album. She's so popular in nighclubs unlike Rihanna who's booed, and not only in France as I have seen.

Ross

20-02-2008, 10:33 PM

just get over it, it's done, she's won. well done to the best winner imo.

Shaun

20-02-2008, 10:34 PM

I didn't mind Kylie winning this award, but I would have preferred Rihanna to win it...I think she's had more hits with Umbrella, Don't Stop The Music and Shut Up And Drive...whereas Kylie didn't really do too well with 2 Hearts, and Wow remains to be seen.

But I dunno if she got the sympathy vote. She's an iconic figure, idolised by many people.

I'm sure Rihanna will win another time in the future.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:34 PM

Message original : Xander
Kylie been in the music buisness since 1989, or somewhere around that time.

Rihianna 2006 onwords( i think)

See what Im trying to say.

Yes, I said it in a previous post. Rihanna is far from being a good competitor against Kylie.
uring the NRJ Music Awards in France last month, Kylie received a special award, which only Madonna received last year and Rihanna was so pissed, I remember her face on national Tv !! :laugh3::laugh3:

KKBL

20-02-2008, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Arneldo
This is about the best music in the last 12 months.

exactly ok lets pick out Kylies best single of the last 12 months.shes only had one which is "2 Hearts" then Rihannas IMO is "Umbrella".then theres albums "X" and "Good Girl Gone Bad".Rihannas alnum and single are better(in most peoples opinions).then vocaly IMO Rihanna has the better voice.

Jack

20-02-2008, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Arneldo
This is about the best music in the last 12 months. Also, people dont decide based on how many singles a singer has had - its based on the quality of the music. On that note - Kylie was a worthy winner IMO

I second you. She made a great album. She's so popular in nighclubs unlike Rihanna who's booed, and not only in France as I have seen.

Rihanna gets more club play than Kylie over here but it's a different audience really. Kylie fully deserved her award tonight, and it's nothing to do with her having cancer. It's not even as if she plays the "cancer card", she just gets on with her career.

Shaun

20-02-2008, 10:37 PM

I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Jack

20-02-2008, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Yeah I know. And Shut Up And Drive (Wideboys remix) is a massive club song. I've never heard 2 Hearts or Wow be played in a club.

Dan_

20-02-2008, 10:39 PM

I would've preferred Alicia Keys or Rihanna to have won but to say it was just a sympathy vote sounds like sour grapes.Kylie's a well recognised international star and the current album got good reviews, it's just down to the panels taste not sympathy in my view.

Ross

20-02-2008, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Yeah I know. And Shut Up And Drive (Wideboys remix) is a massive club song. I've never heard 2 Hearts or Wow be played in a club.
2 Hearts isn't exactly a 'club' song. And Wow has just been released, so give it time.

Jack

20-02-2008, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Ross
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Yeah I know. And Shut Up And Drive (Wideboys remix) is a massive club song. I've never heard 2 Hearts or Wow be played in a club.
2 Hearts isn't exactly a 'club' song. And Wow has just been released, so give it time.

It was in response to Remy who said she is played a lot in nightclubs. I've never really heard her songs played in clubs. And any music can really be mixed into a club song (I've heard "Tears Dry On Their Own" in clubs). And usually clubs play songs weeks before their release so if Wow hasn't been played yet, it probably won't anytime soon.

I agree that she has a different audience though.

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:44 PM

Message original : Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Rihanna's music is too commercial and for young people, Rihanna may be popular in the charts but on the dancefloors, it's like Mika, it can kill a party and a DJ's reputation.
Kylie makes electro sounds in her music with dance music too, a good remix of Kylie is more popular, and in every song she made.

supernoodles!

20-02-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Rihanna's music is too commercial and for young people, Rihanna may be popular in the charts but on the dancefloors, it's like Mika, it can kill a party and a DJ's reputation.
Kylie makes electro sounds in her music with dance music too, a good remix of Kylie is more popular, and in every song she made.

Remy no offence but in France maybe playing Rhianna in a club will kill the party but im sure that in much of the Uk its not the case

Captain.Remy

20-02-2008, 10:59 PM

Message original : supernoodles!
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Shaun
I also can't for the life of me see how Rihanna is booed in nightclubs :conf2:

If anything, when Don't Stop The Music or Umbrella goes off...everybody goes to the dancefloor.

Rihanna's music is too commercial and for young people, Rihanna may be popular in the charts but on the dancefloors, it's like Mika, it can kill a party and a DJ's reputation.
Kylie makes electro sounds in her music with dance music too, a good remix of Kylie is more popular, and in every song she made.

Remy no offence but in France maybe playing Rhianna in a club will kill the party but Im sure that in much of the Uk its not the case

Oh sure but it's far too commercial from being as big as Kylie's ones. It's not the number of cds she did sell but the quality and how people react to it.
Kylie got the awards she deserved and was recognised for her efforts and her great album.