Litter

[Magic]

In my area the litter has increased.
It annoys me so much when people just drive by and through litter out of their car window, not realing the implications it will have.

Do you drop litter?
Is their litter in your area?
Does in annoy you?

[Scarlett.]

Yes I do drop litter sometimes, I try to avoid it, but holding a empty can of Coke in my hand in sub-zero temperatures with no bins in sight is a good enough reason

[Conzors]

I never litter.

I dont know why, i just dont see the point when there bins all over the place.

Lol

Conz x

[Tom]

If I can't see a bin then I'll just drop it. We have those street cleaners about everywhere so dropping it isn't an issue of there isn't a bin in sight. If I can see a bin then depending on what it is I'll wait until I pass the bin.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Yes I do drop litter sometimes, I try to avoid it, but holding a empty can of Coke in my hand in sub-zero temperatures with no bins in sight is a good enough reason

God! It annoys me so much!
Especially when people through it out car windows. Why not just take it home.

And is it really that much to carry a bottle of coke?

[Spike]

I hate litter and it's a problem in my area but I drop it because I am too idle to walk to a bin.

[Scarlett.]

It is when your hand is freezing and you are 15 mins from home

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
It is when your hand is freezing and you are 15 mins from home

15 minutes, barely a mile.

And spike, if you hate it, why drop it?

Tom - The street cleaners get paid from are taxes, and you may claim this is giving people a job, but their wage is more than that of a someone on benefits, and their are more jobs available in other puplic sectors which they could be employed for.

[Scarlett.]

Street cleaning is keeping people in work, would you rather see millions of people jobless?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Street cleaning is keeping people in work, would you rather see millions of people jobless?

Of course not, but the money spent on employing them to clean the streets could be spent on them improving puplic services.

I hate it when people say that by dropping litter they are helping people out, its like the guilt free card.

[Scarlett.]

Maybe the council could spend the money on more bins?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Street cleaning is keeping people in work, would you rather see millions of people jobless?

Of course not, but the money spent on employing them to clean the streets could be spent on them improving puplic services.

I hate it when people say that by dropping litter they are helping people out, its like the guilt free card.

Or the "But they are paid for that !" card. Excuse me ? Even if that person is there to clean, it doesn't mean we shouldn't respect this one, there are bins for that, the street is not a place for garbage, bins are.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Street cleaning is keeping people in work, would you rather see millions of people jobless?

Of course not, but the money spent on employing them to clean the streets could be spent on them improving puplic services.

I hate it when people say that by dropping litter they are helping people out, its like the guilt free card.

Or the "But they are paid for that !" card. Excuse me ? Even if that person is there to clean, it doesn't mean we shouldn't respect this one, there are bins for that, the street is not a place for garbage, bins are.

Exactally. Is pure lazyness when people think they can just drop their litter and it will get cleaned up behind them.

-
I live in the country, and the cans, bottles & polethene that people through out their window wont get cleaned by the council.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Maybe the council could spend the money on more bins?

Most town centres have enough bins, its just peopel cany be bother to walk 10 yards to the nearest one.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
I live in the country, and the cans, bottles & polethene that people through out their window wont get cleaned by the council.

Your neighbourhood seems to be very....nice lol :hugesmile:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Maybe the council could spend the money on more bins?

Most town centres have enough bins, its just peopel cany be bother to walk 10 yards to the nearest one. You obviously havent been to Burnley then, from the Bus Station to the far end of Turf Moor there isnt one bin thats about 1/4 of a mile

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course)

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
I live in the country, and the cans, bottles & polethene that people through out their window wont get cleaned by the council.

Your neighbourhood seems to be very....nice lol :hugesmile:

Lol!
The village is ok, its just I live on the outskirts, and on that stretch of rode since Sat Nav became big and began directing more cars their, the litter has increased.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course) lol:tongue:

that day it was about -2c

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course)

1/4 of a mile isnt exactally a marathon though. And that wasn't in the town centre.

[Magic]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/575/84632014mc4.png

A image of where I live, to help prove my point.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course)

1/4 of a mile isnt exactally a marathon though. And that wasn't in the town centre.

That's why I said it's a joke lol :hugesmile:

[Scarlett.]

its a fair way

and it was very much the Town centre, Turf Moor is a famous big football ground you know

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/575/84632014mc4.png

A image of where I live, to help prove my point.

Wow this is very...little I guess.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course)

1/4 of a mile isnt exactally a marathon though. And that wasn't in the town centre.

That's why I said it's a joke lol :hugesmile:

I know, I was aiming it a chewy not you!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/575/84632014mc4.png

A image of where I live, to help prove my point.

Wow this is very...little I guess.

Do you mean the area I live in?
Of course you cant see the litter this far out, and it was from several years ago.

And incase anyone is interested the brave fox is in the bottom right handed corner of our field :tongue:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/575/84632014mc4.png

A image of where I live, to help prove my point.

Wow this is very...little I guess.

Do you mean the area I live in?
Of course you cant see the litter this far out, and it was from several years ago.

And incase anyone is interested the brave fox is in the bottom right handed corner of our field :tongue:

Both lol

[Magic]

Do you live in a rural or urban part of France remy?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Do you live in a rural or urban part of France remy?

Second biggest french city, Marseille. How to explain ? Well, one of the biggest european port, big beach, many islands, sunny time all year long and best place for clubbing in France. So I guess it's a urban part lol

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Do you live in a rural or urban part of France remy?

Second biggest french city, Marseille. How to explain ? Well, one of the biggest european port, big beach, many islands, sunny time all year long and best place for clubbing in France. So I guess it's a urban part lol

Sound like fun. That's the main reason I come on TiBB so much, as their is little else to do.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Do you live in a rural or urban part of France remy?

Second biggest french city, Marseille. How to explain ? Well, one of the biggest european port, big beach, many islands, sunny time all year long and best place for clubbing in France. So I guess it's a urban part lol

Sound like fun. That's the main reason I come on TiBB so much, as their is little else to do.

It doesn't sound fun, it is. And the mayor makes a great job about cleaning and stuff like this so I don't really worry as I live in the center of the town.

[tinkerbell]

I never litter and theres like no litter at all in my area. posh :hello:

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Do you live in a rural or urban part of France remy?

Second biggest french city, Marseille. How to explain ? Well, one of the biggest european port, big beach, many islands, sunny time all year long and best place for clubbing in France. So I guess it's a urban part lol

Sound like fun. That's the main reason I come on TiBB so much, as their is little else to do.

It doesn't sound fun, it is. And the mayor makes a great job about cleaning and stuff like this so I don't really worry as I live in the center of the town.

I think it sounds fun. Sun, Sea, Clubs, Shops. Where I love their is nothing.
I remember you saying now actually, because didn't a building across from your house catch on fire?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic

I think it sounds fun. Sun, Sea, Clubs, Shops. Where I love their is nothing.
I remember you saying now actually, because didn't a building across from your house catch on fire?

Yes it was pretty bad, they demolished it to re-build an other one. Well, bad people are everywhere.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Tom - The street cleaners get paid from are taxes, and you may claim this is giving people a job, but their wage is more than that of a someone on benefits, and their are more jobs available in other puplic sectors which they could be employed for.

Actually, they don't just clear rubbish up here. Their job description is "outdoor maintenance" meaning they also go around fixing things that have broken, or cut the grass in public places etc.

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy

And before you ask, I did keep it in my hand until I reached a bin, even though my hand was freezing

Aww bless, I hope you are well now, it must be horrible. :laugh3: (joke of course)

1/4 of a mile isnt exactally a marathon though. And that wasn't in the town centre.

There is a mile stretch near my college and a shopping centre nearby. A lot of people are always around that mile stretch. There are no bins. When you are coming back from there with food, the last thing you want to be doing is holding rubbish whilst you are trying to eat something. And as there are no bins about dropping is the only option.

[Legend]

If I'm near a bin then I'll put it in the bin obviously but if not then I throw it on the floor. It's hardly Notting Hill where I live so I'm hardly the only one ... though I know that's not the point.

However, one thing that REALLY p!ssed me off ....

I was on my dinner hour and I threw a chip wrapper on the floor and the community support officers shouted me back and I got a £75 for throwing it. I honestly was shocked ... £75 for throwing a chip wrapper when it's only a £30 fine if you use your mobile whilst driving ... which one is putting lives in danger?

I was genuinely shocked, and they said to me "well at least you won't do it again". I still do it, purposely sometimes because I'm honestly that immature purely because I couldn't believe they fined me £75 for it when I've stated about the mobile phones and driving. I'm just more aware now and rather than looking for a bin, I look for a green jacket to see if a community officer is there. :whistle:

[Lauren]

I can't bring myself to drop litter. It's such a scruffy rude thing to do! I was brought up better than that.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Lauren
I can't bring myself to drop litter. It's such a scruffy rude thing to do! I was brought up better than that.

Well said Lauren, to drop litter is disgusting. And the argument 'there is no bin around' is just a sad excuse.

Its up to everyone to keep Britain tidy

If everyone dropped litter can you imaging what this country would look like???

It doesnt take much effort to find a bin, even if it is a mile away.

I honestly cannot believe that people would even consider to drop litter

[Dr43%er]

It is pure laziness. The fact that someone would rather take the effort to look for the green jacket than a bin speaks volumes.

[~Kizwiz~]

It annoys me it really does. What the hell does it say about society that they would rather dump litter on the ground rather than walking slightly out of your way.

'its someone else's problem' :rolleyes:

[Jack]

I get really angry when I see someone drop litter. You see people inches from a bin, yet they still drop it on the floor. I also hate it when you're in the car and you see the person in front chuck something out of their window, whether it be a crisp packet or the remainants of their McDonald's Drive-Thru. Where do they think it goes?

If I have rubbish, I hold on to it until I either see a bin or am home. Even if it's an inconvenience I could never just throw it on the floor.

[~Kizwiz~]

Its not just about what it makes the country look like it also has a negative effect on wildlife.

Hedgehogs can get their heads trapped inside plastic yogurt cartons, tin cans and polystyrene drinks cups. They can be attracted inside by the leftovers, and are then unable to reverse out because of their rearward facing prickles. This can lead to death by starvation.

Floating plastic bags look like a tasty snack to many marine animals, but can kill if they are swallowed

http://www.uksafari.com/archive/litter.htm (source)

What about food waste? Dropping that will encourage rats.... did you know that there is 60 million rats in the uk??

Thats approximately 1 rat to every person in the UK

[Mrluvaluva]

I am guilty of littering with spent cigarette butts. Sometimes I do pick it up and put it in the bin, but not always. I don't drop any other litter.

[Jackie]

When my husband came home the other night and tried to park the car someone had dumped an empty tv box and inside was a dirty burnt frying pan in our parking space how lazy is someone to do a thing like that.I ended up taking it indooors and im going to take it to the dump.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Mrluvaluva
I am guilty of littering with spent cigarette butts. Sometimes I do pick it up and put it in the bin, but not always. I don't drop any other litter.

Well I do that sometimes in the street but not always, only when I know there will be no bin near the point I am.

[Mrluvaluva]

More and more bins are getting taken away in London due to the fear of someone leaving a bomb in them. There used to be one round the corner from work but even that has gone now.

With the smoking ban now being in force, many bars/pubs provide ashtrays outside which I always use.

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Its not just about what it makes the country look like it also has a negative effect on wildlife.

Hedgehogs can get their heads trapped inside plastic yogurt cartons, tin cans and polystyrene drinks cups. They can be attracted inside by the leftovers, and are then unable to reverse out because of their rearward facing prickles. This can lead to death by starvation.

Floating plastic bags look like a tasty snack to many marine animals, but can kill if they are swallowed

http://www.uksafari.com/archive/litter.htm (source)

What about food waste? Dropping that will encourage rats.... did you know that there is 60 million rats in the uk??

Thats approximately 1 rat to every person in the UK

Alongside our road their was a load of McDonalds Rubbish, and then a animal had ate some of it, as it was alll ripped out its bag. But being the Samartaian I am I picked it up, but I dont want to sound lazy, but I dont do it much, it doesnt really appeak to me picking up other litter.

Along the droves people have been flytipping aswell, dumping garden wase, old electrical items and tyres. Luckily we phoned the council and they got rid of that.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Legend
If I'm near a bin then I'll put it in the bin obviously but if not then I throw it on the floor. It's hardly Notting Hill where I live so I'm hardly the only one ... though I know that's not the point.

However, one thing that REALLY p!ssed me off ....

I was on my dinner hour and I threw a chip wrapper on the floor and the community support officers shouted me back and I got a £75 for throwing it. I honestly was shocked ... £75 for throwing a chip wrapper when it's only a £30 fine if you use your mobile whilst driving ... which one is putting lives in danger?

I was genuinely shocked, and they said to me "well at least you won't do it again". I still do it, purposely sometimes because I'm honestly that immature purely because I couldn't believe they fined me £75 for it when I've stated about the mobile phones and driving. I'm just more aware now and rather than looking for a bin, I look for a green jacket to see if a community officer is there. :whistle:

Honestly, you should be ashamed.
Why carry on dropping litter, you should of learnt you lesson.
And your not getting back at the men, your 'revenge' effects everyone else.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
It is pure laziness. The fact that someone would rather take the effort to look for the green jacket than a bin speaks volumes.

I know, and I know I have the wrong attitude about it but my area is horrible, it's a horrible to place to live in so me throwing a malteasar packet on the floor [when there is no bin] is hardly making the area any worse. And yeah, I know it's not the point and I shouldn't really do it but in my area I think people are more interested in looking out for somebody jumping out on them with a knife than a chip wrapper on the floor.

Though if there is a bin then of course I throw it in the bin.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
There is a mile stretch near my college and a shopping centre nearby. A lot of people are always around that mile stretch. There are no bins. When you are coming back from there with food, the last thing you want to be doing is holding rubbish whilst you are trying to eat something. And as there are no bins about dropping is the [b]only[b/b] option.

Thats the most stupid thing I have heard all day!
The only option! So its impossible is it to carry it in your precious little hands! A mile stretch - Woo Hoo! That's some long way everyone has to walk!

When you are coming back with foood, the the last thing you want to do is walk alongside other people rubbish.

Sorry, but I am very angry at everyones lazyiness!

[MarkWaldorf]

I always put things in the bin. Sometimes I'll catch myself drop stuff on the floor or in a bush but I'll pick it up and find a bin.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Legend
If I'm near a bin then I'll put it in the bin obviously but if not then I throw it on the floor. It's hardly Notting Hill where I live so I'm hardly the only one ... though I know that's not the point.

However, one thing that REALLY p!ssed me off ....

I was on my dinner hour and I threw a chip wrapper on the floor and the community support officers shouted me back and I got a £75 for throwing it. I honestly was shocked ... £75 for throwing a chip wrapper when it's only a £30 fine if you use your mobile whilst driving ... which one is putting lives in danger?

I was genuinely shocked, and they said to me "well at least you won't do it again". I still do it, purposely sometimes because I'm honestly that immature purely because I couldn't believe they fined me £75 for it when I've stated about the mobile phones and driving. I'm just more aware now and rather than looking for a bin, I look for a green jacket to see if a community officer is there. :whistle:

Honestly, you should be ashamed.
Why carry on dropping litter, you should of learnt you lesson.
And your not getting back at the men, your 'revenge' effects everyone else.

Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Legend
If I'm near a bin then I'll put it in the bin obviously but if not then I throw it on the floor. It's hardly Notting Hill where I live so I'm hardly the only one ... though I know that's not the point.

However, one thing that REALLY p!ssed me off ....

I was on my dinner hour and I threw a chip wrapper on the floor and the community support officers shouted me back and I got a £75 for throwing it. I honestly was shocked ... £75 for throwing a chip wrapper when it's only a £30 fine if you use your mobile whilst driving ... which one is putting lives in danger?

I was genuinely shocked, and they said to me "well at least you won't do it again". I still do it, purposely sometimes because I'm honestly that immature purely because I couldn't believe they fined me £75 for it when I've stated about the mobile phones and driving. I'm just more aware now and rather than looking for a bin, I look for a green jacket to see if a community officer is there. :whistle:

Honestly, you should be ashamed.
Why carry on dropping litter, you should of learnt you lesson.
And your not getting back at the men, your 'revenge' effects everyone else.

Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

I agree about the laws, but then you can drive a tractor at 16, and a car at 17! Thats silly as well if you ask me, a tractor can cause more damage than a car.

But on topic, at least you see its wrong, but please dont drop litter again. If everyone dropped litter, like Kiz said, think where we would be.

[Dr43%er]

"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Post of the day!
I completly agree.

[~Kizwiz~]

I live about 400 yards from a Maccy D's and we are slightly uphill from there. My garden is on a curve too..... this all leads to this in my garden:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/kizzywizzy/rubbish.jpg

I disappear I really do! Other peoples litter is blowing in my garden which I have to pick up.... I dont get paid for it so why should I pick up other people rubbish??

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
I live about 400 yards from a Maccy D's and we are slightly uphill from there. My garden is on a curve too..... this all leads to this in my garden:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/kizzywizzy/rubbish.jpg

I disappear I really do! Other peoples litter is blowing in my garden which I have to pick up.... I dont get paid for it so why should I pick up other people rubbish??

I bet it gets really annoying.
I read in a home town thread that you wanted to move to where you were brought up, somewhere bginning with R, wil you still?

On the side, still no sound from PS

[Dr43%er]

But you do as you have pride. Of course if you moved to Rutland you would never see any litter as it has not been invented there yet.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

[Dr43%er]

You not got gloves? If your hands are so full you you can't carry an empty can, then how the hell did you manage with a full one in the first place? Excuses.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

[Dr43%er]

What would you say to someone who threw a can in your garden as they walked by? There hands may be cold too. I take it you would be cool with that?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
You not got gloves? If your hands are so full you you can't carry an empty can, then how the hell did you manage with a full one in the first place? Excuses.

No. I dont wear gloves. I hate them. And its perfectly possible yo buy one before you buy other stuff, and your hands get fuller whilst you have it with you. Its possible not to pass a bin.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

I agree with you. After school I'll go to the shop and buy a drink, when lately it's been cold, and I'll carry the can all the way home to put it in the bin. There isn't a bin on the route I take.

I'm very echo-friendly so I would.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Dr43%er
You not got gloves? If your hands are so full you you can't carry an empty can, then how the hell did you manage with a full one in the first place? Excuses.

No. I dont wear gloves. I hate them. And its perfectly possible yo buy one before you buy other stuff, and your hands get fuller whilst you have it with you. Its possible not to pass a bin.
Say if you buy other stuff, surely they come in a bag, could you not put it in their?
And like I just said, a can of coke isn't exactally huge is it?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
What would you say to someone who threw a can in your garden as they walked by? There hands may be cold too. I take it you would be cool with that?

It would be funny if they did because there is a bin at the end of my street, and the street isn't that big. I'm on about where there are no bins!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Dr43%er
What would you say to someone who threw a can in your garden as they walked by? There hands may be cold too. I take it you would be cool with that?

It would be funny if they did because there is a bin at the end of my street, and the street isn't that big. I'm on about where there are no bins!

But like I have said, is it really much to carry your litter where there are no bins?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

Nope, I would just have more important things to carry which I've already mentioned. Hands full and all that :rolleyes: If my hands are not full then I probably would wait until I see a bin.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Magic
I read in a home town thread that you wanted to move to where you were brought up, somewhere bginning with R, wil you still?

On the side, still no sound from PS

Hmmm... I am sure PS is ok.

Red and I are looking to move to Rutland, but the sale of the house just fell thro and somebody else has bought the house that we both really had our hearts on moving too. So its back to the drawing board.

Doc..... watch it or i'll get the train to leicester...... its only 2 stops away from where I will be living!!!!

[Callum]

Yeah I do. But there's about 1 bin in my whole village, so where else am I meant to put it?!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Dr43%er
What would you say to someone who threw a can in your garden as they walked by? There hands may be cold too. I take it you would be cool with that?

It would be funny if they did because there is a bin at the end of my street, and the street isn't that big. I'm on about where there are no bins!

But like I have said, is it really much to carry your litter where there are no bins?

If you have other, more important stuff to carry then yes.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

Nope, I would just have more important things to carry which I've already mentioned. Hands full and all that :rolleyes: If my hands are not full then I probably would wait until I see a bin.

Ok, so tell us what you are carrying. I suspect them come in packaging, could you not just put it in their?
What about put the can in a pocket, or simply just hold it?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
Yeah I do. But there's about 1 bin in my whole village, so where else am I meant to put it?!

In the bin in your house. In my village their are no bins at all (It is small), but I dont drop stuff!

I am determined to change people's ways!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

Nope, I would just have more important things to carry which I've already mentioned. Hands full and all that :rolleyes: If my hands are not full then I probably would wait until I see a bin.

Ok, so tell us what you are carrying. I suspect them come in packaging, could you not just put it in their?
What about put the can in a pocket, or simply just hold it?

4 bags in each hand and your pockets are too small. There is a little bit left that could leak out over your stuff.

[Scarlett.]

We dont need to be preached on the evils of dropping litter, we all know we shouldnt do it but some of us do

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by Magic
I read in a home town thread that you wanted to move to where you were brought up, somewhere bginning with R, wil you still?

On the side, still no sound from PS

Hmmm... I am sure PS is ok.

Red and I are looking to move to Rutland, but the sale of the house just fell thro and somebody else has bought the house that we both really had our hearts on moving too. So its back to the drawing board.

Doc..... watch it or i'll get the train to leicester...... its only 2 stops away from where I will be living!!!!

I bet you are annoyed. I remember when we we where moving house, just one break in the chain and it all stopped.

[Tom]

Magic, you fox hunt. You must have killed a fox, or know somebody that has. Do you class killing a fox then leaving it to rot as littering? In my view it is.

[~Kizwiz~]

Dropping litter is lazy...pure and simple

There is no other way to express it.... no excuses not but.....Lazy

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Legend
Nope, the only lesson learnt was that the council or the government or whoever created these fineing laws need to get their priorities sorted ... £75 for a chip wrapper, £30 for a potential life ...

And don't tell me I should be ashamed ... like I've said, a wrapper on the floor is hardly my area's main concern. And like I also said, I know it's not the point, I know it's the wrong attitude etc, etc.

If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point.

Where I live litter is generally OK. It isn't like walking through a dump but there are the odd bits of litter about. There are places near me which include long walks with no bins around. If I'm walking down one of those and its either freezing or my hands are full, the last thing I am going to do is cart an empty coke can down the road until I reach the nearest bin.

Cart an empty can of coke - OH MY GOD!
Why cant you carry a empty can of coke? To heavy?
Its ridiculous!

Sorry, i am getting angry! :angel:

Nope, I would just have more important things to carry which I've already mentioned. Hands full and all that :rolleyes: If my hands are not full then I probably would wait until I see a bin.

Ok, so tell us what you are carrying. I suspect them come in packaging, could you not just put it in their?
What about put the can in a pocket, or simply just hold it?

4 bags in each hand and your pockets are too small. There is a little bit left that could leak out over your stuff.

Drink the rest, compress the can, chuck it in a bag. Simple.

And as for bringing in the fact that I have been fox hunting before, that isnt really relevant, its just bringing in something on a completly diffrent topic.

By dropping litter you could potentially, as Kiz mentioned, kill a animal by starvation.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Callum
Yeah I do. But there's about 1 bin in my whole village, so where else am I meant to put it?!

Home maybe????? Its your rubbish, why dump it for someone else to pick up?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Magic, you fox hunt. You must have killed a fox, or know somebody that has. Do you class killing a fox then leaving it to rot as littering? In my view it is.

I said the rest before, but the foxes aren't just left to rot, they are taken away.

[~Kizwiz~]

Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
We dont need to be preached on the evils of dropping litter, we all know we shouldnt do it but some of us do

Why? Because your lazy? :tongue:
You know you shouldn't do it - but you do.

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Tom_
Magic, you fox hunt. You must have killed a fox, or know somebody that has. Do you class killing a fox then leaving it to rot as littering? In my view it is.

What on earth has that got to do with dumping man made rubbish?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up Wrong its all biodegradable
Tin is
Crisp wrappers are
food is
cardboard is (as McDonalds know which is why they switched from Polostyrene to cardboard)
paper is

[Tom]

Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

[Callum]

kizwiz and magic don't you dare tell me where to put my rubbish thankyouverymuch.

Admin edit: try not to use all-capital letters.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Why shouldn't they? If you drop it on the street it's everyone's problem because we have to walk up and down it everyday.

[Callum]

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. if i want to drop it i can.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Callum
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. if i want to drop it i can. Exactly, its free will:spin2:

[Jack]

It's also free will to murder someone but I think a lot of people would have something to say about that.

[Callum]

Changing the subject now are you jack:bored:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Jack
It's also free will to murder someone but I think a lot of people would have something to say about that.

Thats taking away someone elses free will, it is completly different

Littering however, doesnt really change anyone elses life

and I hate being preached to about stuff like rubbish, its as they would say, a load of rubbish:laugh:

[Jack]

Originally posted by Callum
Changing the subject now are you jack:bored:

Not at all. I'm illustrating a point. Free will doesn't mean someone has the right to do whatever they wish.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

Yes we recycle as much as we can in our area, and Plastics, Rubber, Metal, polythene all are just a few of the objects taht are not biodegradable!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. if i want to drop it i can.

Because they cant? What kind of reason is that.

I think a few people need to calm down. Its starting to get argumentative

[Scarlett.]

Metal is biodegradeable

it rusts then degrades into dust

[Tom]

Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Callum
Changing the subject now are you jack:bored:

Not at all. I'm illustrating a point. Free will doesn't mean someone has the right to do whatever they wish.

Bad example to compare it to.

Dropping a chocolate bar wrapper v murdering someone
A £50 fine (here) v life imprisonment

No contest really ...

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Jack
It's also free will to murder someone but I think a lot of people would have something to say about that.

Exactally. It may be on a diffrent scale, but thats the principle.

One point to Jack! :tongue:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy! Aye I do recycle:spin2: lol

Plus it saves spending £1 a day on teeth rotting acid (Cola)

[Jack]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Jack
Originally posted by Callum
Changing the subject now are you jack:bored:

Not at all. I'm illustrating a point. Free will doesn't mean someone has the right to do whatever they wish.

Bad example to compare it to.

Dropping a chocolate bar wrapper v murdering someone
A £50 fine (here) v life imprisonment

No contest really ...

I wasn't comparing the act just the logic behind what Callum was saying, meaning free will gave you a license to do whatever you please.

Littering is inconsiderate, rude and lazy. There's nothing more to say on the subject really. I was bought up better than to drop rubbish wherever I please.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy!

Wrong. Yes, the bottles can be reused but some people have to keep on buying bottled water anyway. If you do that then recycling is the best option.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

Yes I do :tongue:

All my bottle, plastic, cardboard, glass etc goes into a green bin in our garden.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy!

Wrong. Yes, the bottles can be reused but some people have to keep on buying bottled water anyway. If you do that then recycling is the best option. Ignorant people buy bottled water (BB's Nikki) tap water is just fine

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy!

Wrong. Yes, the bottles can be reused but some people have to keep on buying bottled water anyway. If you do that then recycling is the best option.

Of course you can recycle after you have finished with the bottle, as chewy said.


I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

A little imitation of RedMoon ? :tongue:

[Tom]

Right, this far into the argument there is something I haven't said yet because it looks like I am very pro-litter.

I'm actually against it and I don't like doing it. Where I can, I will keep hold of something until a bin but there are times when I can't e.g. the hands full scenario or something which happened to me about a fortnight ago which is walking for half an hour with an empty, freezing McDonalds milkshake carton in sub zero temperatures.

I don't think people should be encouraged to litter. People should just bin things. Its actually more convenient than just dropping it, and not just for yourself. But I think in some instances it is OK, especially if there are a lot of street cleaners about like there are here.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

A little imitation of RedMoon ? :tongue:

Yep! I did originally right that, and then something wrote something moderaterish, but then I decided to let people figure it our for themselves

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Most litter today isnt biodegradable. It will be left forever if you dont pick it up

The other day I was watching Panorama and they were talking about bottled water, and its effect on the environment.

I didn't really think that a bottle that could pottentially only be used once, will last for 1000's of years. Simple, re-use your bottle over and over its cheaper plus you dont need to keep buying them

I agree. You made a goo point chewy!

Wrong. Yes, the bottles can be reused but some people have to keep on buying bottled water anyway. If you do that then recycling is the best option.

Of course you can recycle after you have finished with the bottle, as chewy said.


I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

Recycle, yes. Reuse, probably not. We buy about 5 or 6 2 litre bottles in a week. We aren't going to keep all of those bottles and use them all again.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Right, this far into the argument there is something I haven't said yet because it looks like I am very pro-litter.

I'm actually against it and I don't like doing it. Where I can, I will keep hold of something until a bin but there are times when I can't e.g. the hands full scenario or something which happened to me about a fortnight ago which is walking for half an hour with an empty, freezing McDonalds milkshake carton in sub zero temperatures.

I don't think people should be encouraged to litter. People should just bin things. Its actually more convenient than just dropping it, and not just for yourself. But I think in some instances it is OK, especially if there are a lot of street cleaners about like there are here.

Ok....

Your againts it - but do it
So basically, your to lazy

Sub zero temperature, what, -1? Its not exactally the artic.

People should just bin things - Unless their hands are cold or to full, or they are simply lazy.

I hope you have leaned not to drop litter again!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Right, this far into the argument there is something I haven't said yet because it looks like I am very pro-litter.

I'm actually against it and I don't like doing it. Where I can, I will keep hold of something until a bin but there are times when I can't e.g. the hands full scenario or something which happened to me about a fortnight ago which is walking for half an hour with an empty, freezing McDonalds milkshake carton in sub zero temperatures.

I don't think people should be encouraged to litter. People should just bin things. Its actually more convenient than just dropping it, and not just for yourself. But I think in some instances it is OK, especially if there are a lot of street cleaners about like there are here.

Ok....

Your againts it - but do it
So basically, your to lazy

Sub zero temperature, what, -1? Its not exactally the artic.

People should just bin things - Unless their hands are cold or to full, or they are simply lazy.

I hope you have leaned not to drop litter again! Stop calling people lazy, you are insulting them

and -1 is very cold it turns liquid into solid

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

Biodegrade in to what?
Coke can's can make the soil toxic :shocked: (But only slightly) I just read.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

Biodegrade in to what?
Coke can's can make the soil toxic :shocked: (But only slightly) I just read. dust, I have seen it picked up and old rusty Coke can, turned to dust in my hand

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Right, this far into the argument there is something I haven't said yet because it looks like I am very pro-litter.

I'm actually against it and I don't like doing it. Where I can, I will keep hold of something until a bin but there are times when I can't e.g. the hands full scenario or something which happened to me about a fortnight ago which is walking for half an hour with an empty, freezing McDonalds milkshake carton in sub zero temperatures.

I don't think people should be encouraged to litter. People should just bin things. Its actually more convenient than just dropping it, and not just for yourself. But I think in some instances it is OK, especially if there are a lot of street cleaners about like there are here.

Ok....

Your againts it - but do it
So basically, your to lazy

Sub zero temperature, what, -1? Its not exactally the artic.

People should just bin things - Unless their hands are cold or to full, or they are simply lazy.

I hope you have leaned not to drop litter again! Stop calling people lazy, you are insulting them

and -1 is very cold it turns liquid into solid

But you both, at some point in the thread said Sub Zero tempertaures. :tongue:

And I hope I didn't offend anyone, but basically, its the truth.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

Biodegrade in to what?
Coke can's can make the soil toxic :shocked: (But only slightly) I just read. dust, I have seen it picked up and old rusty Coke can, turned to dust in my hand


And the earths resources - gone. Dust.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Magic

Ok....

Your againts it - but do it
So basically, your to lazy

Not often


Sub zero temperature, what, -1? Its not exactally the artic.[/b]

About -8? With no gloves? Whilst its windy? You try that.

People should just bin things - Unless their hands are cold or to full, or they are simply lazy.

I hope you have leaned not to drop litter again!

I won't intentionally, and I didn't before this anyway. Just if its more convenient to drop it than it is to find a bin. But usually its the other way around.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

Biodegrade in to what?
Coke can's can make the soil toxic :shocked: (But only slightly) I just read. dust, I have seen it picked up and old rusty Coke can, turned to dust in my hand


And the earths resources - gone. Dust. The only resources that are running out are fuel

and scientists are developing a salt water engine as Salt water is all over

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_
Originally posted by Magic

Ok....

Your againts it - but do it
So basically, your to lazy

Not often


Sub zero temperature, what, -1? Its not exactally the artic.[/b]

About -8? With no gloves? Whilst its windy? You try that.

People should just bin things - Unless their hands are cold or to full, or they are simply lazy.

I hope you have leaned not to drop litter again!

I won't intentionally, and I didn't before this anyway. Just if its more convenient to drop it than it is to find a bin. But usually its the other way around.

-8? Really? :shocked:

But still, if it ever happends again, for me, dont drop it.]
:angel:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

A little imitation of RedMoon ? :tongue:

Yep! I did originally right that, and then something wrote something moderaterish, but then I decided to let people figure it our for themselves

Sure. :laugh::bigsmile:

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Tom_
Magic and kizwiz, do you both recycle?

And a lot of litter is paper based which is biodegradable.

But the Coke can you drop wont degrade for a long time. It will after about 3 years, by then it will have been picked up

anywho, I am sure most of use do what we can, more bins would help though

Biodegrade in to what?
Coke can's can make the soil toxic :shocked: (But only slightly) I just read. dust, I have seen it picked up and old rusty Coke can, turned to dust in my hand


And the earths resources - gone. Dust. The only resources that are running out are fuel

and scientists are developing a salt water engine as Salt water is all over

So we will never run out of metal?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Magic
I think this thread is getting a bit to argumenative. Calm down everyone!

A little imitation of RedMoon ? :tongue:

Yep! I did originally right that, and then something wrote something moderaterish, but then I decided to let people figure it our for themselves

Sure. :laugh::bigsmile:

I am now experimenting with diffrent colours and fonts, but this is the best!

Boo.

[Scarlett.]

No not really, they are planning on mining the moon in the near future

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Pardon? I do dare because this is a debate, we both have our opinions I can say that people who drop litter are lazy because there is no excuse in my opinion!!!!!!!

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
No not really, they are planning on mining the moon in the near future

God!
Drain somewhere else of its natural resources or try and make the most of what we have by recycling.


Um.... Drain somewhere else!

What will we do next?

[~Kizwiz~]

I agree that some people wil dump rubbish at times but it still doesnt make it right.

The cold milkshake thing....well its understandable but I personally wouldn't do it.

Everyone has a right to drop litter yes, but its also my right to say its wrong and slightly selfish to expect others to pick up after you

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Pardon? I do dare because this is a debate, we both have our opinions I can say that people who drop litter are lazy because there is no excuse in my opinion!!!!!!!

Woo! Well said Kiz.
I didn't really know what to say!

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Well that's a pathetic attitude if ever I've heard one.

There's neglecting to put your rubbish in the bin, but proactively seeking to drop it where you like is frankly pathetic.

[Magic]

Sort of taking us back to the start, their is flytipping in my area, is that happening to anyone else?

[Dr43%er]

Ok, a few points, sorry but I can't remember who said what.

Was it Tom. Re the can in your garden. There hands may have got so cold they have to throw it now and can't wait till the next bin. Are you happy for your garden to become a dumping ground?

You say your hand are becoming fuller as you buy more. So you must be going in shops. I have never found a shop yet that does not have a bin. Most will be happy for you to use it.

Ok, it's -8. You have no gloves as you don't like them. It has got to the point your hands are so cold that you can no longer hold on to the heavy clumsy can. Where do you find the will and strength to hold on to your bags? I am impressed.


To the person who said metal degrades. Let me know where you live as I have an old banger of a car I need to get rid of. Will your garden do? Don't worry, it will degrade in time.

With regards to not telling people what to do. If you drop it round my house or work I will tell you what to do. I have before now picked up other peoples crap and forced it back on them. If you want to live and work in a slum then fine, drop your **** where you live and work. Not where I do.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Sort of taking us back to the start, their is flytipping in my area, is that happening to anyone else? I dont agree with fly tipping

[Shaun]

I agree with everything Dr43%er says.

[Callum]

Kizwiz I can also have my own opinion!!!!!!!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Ok, a few points, sorry but I can't remember who said what.

Was it Tom. Re the can in your garden. There hands may have got so cold they have to throw it now and can't wait till the next bin. Are you happy for your garden to become a dumping ground?

You say your hand are becoming fuller as you buy more. So you must be going in shops. I have never found a shop yet that does not have a bin. Most will be happy for you to use it.

Ok, it's -8. You have no gloves as you don't like them. It has got to the point your hands are so cold that you can no longer hold on to the heavy clumsy can. Where do you find the will and strength to hold on to your bags? I am impressed.


To the person who said metal degrades. Let me know where you live as I have an old banger of a car I need to get rid of. Will your garden do? Don't worry, it will degrade in time.

With regards to not telling people what to do. If you drop it round my house or work I will tell you what to do. I have before now picked up other peoples c**p and forced it back on them. If you want to live and work in a slum then fine, drop your **** where you live and work. Not where I do. Good points:thumbs:

But there is a big difference between a car and a can (plus I dont have a back garden:tongue:)

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Callum
Kizwiz I can also have my own opinion!!!!!!!

de·bate /dɪˈbeɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-beyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -bat·ed, -bat·ing.
–noun
1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints

[Dr43%er]

But your opinion was to tell someone they could not have an opinion. Kiz's was not.

As I have said. If you want to live in a **** hole that is up to you. Forcing other people to live in **** who may not want to is *****. In my opinion of course.

[Callum]

Dr%er there is no bins around by me! So why should I have to trek about 6 miles to find the nearest bin?!

[Dr43%er]

You are saying there are no bins near you home. Am I correct in thinking that?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

You've not to worry about KizWiz and Magic. If I were you I'd be more concerned about whether the police or community support officers see you - and for the sake of cleanliness and hygiene, I hope to god they do see you.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
You are saying there are no bins near you home. Am I correct in thinking that?

Well I'm not a tramp!!!!

[Callum]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

You've not to worry about KizWiz and Magic. If I were you I'd be more concerned about whether the police or community support officers see you - and for the sake of cleanliness and hygiene, I hope to god they do see you.

Now then Lauren I am not the only one who drops litter, but I have a right to. I bet the police themselves even drop litter as the lack of bins.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
Dr%er there is no bins around by me! So why should I have to trek about 6 miles to find the nearest bin?!
I assume you live in a house, does that not have a bin?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

You've not to worry about KizWiz and Magic. If I were you I'd be more concerned about whether the police or community support officers see you - and for the sake of cleanliness and hygiene, I hope to god they do see you.

Now then Lauren I am not the only one who drops litter, but I have a right to. I bet the police themselves even drop litter as the lack of bins.

I didn't say you were the only one, and you don't have the right to drop litter - thats why there are controls and fines in place to prevent it.

[Callum]

MAGIC I AM NOT A TRAMP!!!! And my house has a bin but why would I want to carry litter with me all the way to my house?!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
MAGIC I AM NOT A TRAMP!!!! And my house has a bin but why would I want to carry litter with me all the way to my house?!

What are you going on about tramps for? I've seen tramps put rubbish in bins. They lack a home, not manners.

[Dr43%er]

Magic has jumped in to where I was going. If there are no bins near where you live, you are by your own admission near where you live. No need to do a 6 mile trip to find a bin. Take it home with you.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
MAGIC I AM NOT A TRAMP!!!! And my house has a bin but why would I want to carry litter with me all the way to my house?!

I didn't mean that, but surely you managed to "trex" six miles from your house, can you not walk back with the litter?

I know its you, but you are typing in a diffrent style today, eg, lots of caps, now then, etc.

And why? Because you should want to protect the enviroment!

[Callum]

Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

You ate out of said rubbish?

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
KIZWIZ AND MAGIC DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHERE TO PUT MY RUBBISH THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

You've not to worry about KizWiz and Magic. If I were you I'd be more concerned about whether the police or community support officers see you - and for the sake of cleanliness and hygiene, I hope to god they do see you.

Now then Lauren I am not the only one who drops litter, but I have a right to. I bet the police themselves even drop litter as the lack of bins.

Where exactly did you grasp the concept that people have a right to drop litter?

Quite the opposite. It's illegal.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

What! I cant believe I read that! Look a blonker carrying something? How do they know its rubbish! Its filthy|? Not as filthy as you dropping it!
Ew at your ignorance!

Again, I have never heard you use words like plonker!

[Callum]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

You ate out of said rubbish?

But still... ew!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly. Legend you are a Legend, I agree 100%

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

You ate out of said rubbish?

But still... ew!

I'm really quite baffled that your whole argument centres around 'ew'. You eat out of something and are too lazy to abide to law in finding a bin. The 'ew' and 'filthy' thing, is throwing it on the ground and attracting rats. Thats what is disgusting.

[Callum]

I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

[Dr43%er]

Hear that.... Its the sound of my mind boggling.

[Callum]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

[Legend]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

Honestly? Yes. Why should I treat the area any better than the people who live in it? I don't purposely set out to drop some litter ... I hardly keep a tally of how many wrappers I throw to try and beat it weekly, but I do throw wrappers if there is no bin in sight because everybody else does, my wrapper won't make a difference as the area is a $hit hole as it is.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

But its ok for you to throw that filth on the floor for someone else to pick up???

Gee.... I guess thats ok then :rolleyes:

[Dr43%er]

You wouldn't use it. You would require one to be put every 2 meters for it to be convenient for you.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
You wouldn't use it. You would require one to be put every 2 meters for it to be convenient for you. yeah thats better than the current 1/2 Mile distance:thumbs:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

You ate out of said rubbish?

But still... ew!

I didn't think you were like that - I thought were indivvidual.

But today I have learnt all you care about is Image.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

Woo to Lauren!

In my village their are no bins at all, but I still keep any rubbish I have on me, to put in to a bin. Admittedly because of the lack of Bins alongside the fields the rubbish has increased, but this is all through people throwing rubbish out their windows.

[Callum]

I am individual Magic but I'd rather not be seen in public with rubbish in my hand.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

Ew? What is exactly are you carrying which is so disgusting to keep hold of for 10 minutes? Dog sh*t?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Dr43%er
You wouldn't use it. You would require one to be put every 2 meters for it to be convenient for you. yeah thats better than the current 1/2 Mile distance:thumbs:

Again, 1/2 a mile, barely a maratgon.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

Woo to Lauren!

In my village their are no bins at all, but I still keep any rubbish I have on me, to put in to a bin. Admittedly because of the lack of Bins alongside the fields the rubbish has increased, but this is all through people throwing rubbish out their windows. I saw your village (the piccie) its tiny, so your home is not far away from any shops ect.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
I am individual Magic but I'd rather not be seen in public with rubbish in my hand.

So, yeah, you are all about Image.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

Honestly? Yes. Why should I treat the area any better than the people who live in it? I don't purposely set out to drop some litter ... I hardly keep a tally of how many wrappers I throw to try and beat it weekly, but I do throw wrappers if there is no bin in sight because everybody else does, my wrapper won't make a difference as the area is a $hit hole as it is.

I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away...like chewing gum or a little sweet wrapper.

But I don't understand the mentality where your rubbish makes no difference. Because it does, it's the act of everybody's neglect...and should you choose to not be so neglecting, then although there would be little change, it's at least something. It doesn't excuse laziness.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

Woo to Lauren!

In my village their are no bins at all, but I still keep any rubbish I have on me, to put in to a bin. Admittedly because of the lack of Bins alongside the fields the rubbish has increased, but this is all through people throwing rubbish out their windows. I saw your village (the piccie) its tiny, so your home is not far away from any shops ect.

My home is far away from shops, the nearest being about 15 minutes drive, the motorway services.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Callum
I am individual Magic but I'd rather not be seen in public with rubbish in my hand.

Ok.... so let me get this straight, if you say have a can of something to drink or maybe a bag of crisps..... and you dont want to carry that 'filth' around with you. But havent you just eaten or drunk out of that 'filth'???

It just doesnt add up to me :puzzled:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

Woo to Lauren!

In my village their are no bins at all, but I still keep any rubbish I have on me, to put in to a bin. Admittedly because of the lack of Bins alongside the fields the rubbish has increased, but this is all through people throwing rubbish out their windows. I saw your village (the piccie) its tiny, so your home is not far away from any shops ect.

My home is far away from shops, the nearest being about 15 minutes drive, the motorway services. So basically you dont have to walk between the shop and your house

[Legend]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

Honestly? Yes. Why should I treat the area any better than the people who live in it? I don't purposely set out to drop some litter ... I hardly keep a tally of how many wrappers I throw to try and beat it weekly, but I do throw wrappers if there is no bin in sight because everybody else does, my wrapper won't make a difference as the area is a $hit hole as it is.

I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away...like chewing gum or a little sweet wrapper.

But I don't understand the mentality where your rubbish makes no difference. Because it does, it's the act of everybody's neglect...and should you choose to not be so neglecting, then although there would be little change, it's at least something. It doesn't excuse laziness.

So you throw chewing gum and little sweet wrappers away? If you do then your whole argument to me is very hypocritical ... it's not the size of the wrapper that counts, it's what you do with it. :wink:

Also, I've not once said it excuses my laziness, I've said enough times that it is a lazy, boneidle thing to do.

"it's at least something"

Like it matters. It will all pile up again if you give it 5 minutes.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

Honestly? Yes. Why should I treat the area any better than the people who live in it? I don't purposely set out to drop some litter ... I hardly keep a tally of how many wrappers I throw to try and beat it weekly, but I do throw wrappers if there is no bin in sight because everybody else does, my wrapper won't make a difference as the area is a $hit hole as it is.

I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away...like chewing gum or a little sweet wrapper.

But I don't understand the mentality where your rubbish makes no difference. Because it does, it's the act of everybody's neglect...and should you choose to not be so neglecting, then although there would be little change, it's at least something. It doesn't excuse laziness.

So you throw chewing gum and little sweet wrappers away? If you do then your whole argument to me is very hypocritical ... it's not the size of the wrapper that counts, it's what you do with it. :wink:

Also, I've not once said it excuses my laziness, I've said enough times that it is a lazy, boneidle thing to do.

"it's at least something"

Like it matters. It will all pile up again if you give it 5 minutes.

Well no, since, as I said, that's unintentional and everybody does unintentionally sometimes. But you've said up there that you throw away if there's not a bin within sight...which suggests you look around and then intentionally throw it away.

And lol @ the size doesn't matter reference :tongue:

[Dr43%er]

"I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away" I don't.

Kiz, you really don't get it do you. The second that full hygienic can becomes empty a reaction takes place that makes it the most vile uncool thing to be seen with.
Can you not tell the difference between a full can and an empty one? I can. I mock people with empty cans. Especially if they have cold hands.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
I don't like eating much anyway, I'm not often seen eating outside my own house.

Probably cos outside your own house is rat infested if everyone dumped rubbish.

Well you tell the goverment to put bins in my area then!!

I manage fine and there's hardly a plethora of bins in my area, I'm guessing thats because I'm not lazy and opposed to rat infestations.

Woo to Lauren!

In my village their are no bins at all, but I still keep any rubbish I have on me, to put in to a bin. Admittedly because of the lack of Bins alongside the fields the rubbish has increased, but this is all through people throwing rubbish out their windows. I saw your village (the piccie) its tiny, so your home is not far away from any shops ect.

My home is far away from shops, the nearest being about 15 minutes drive, the motorway services. So basically you dont have to walk between the shop and your house

No, but I have rubbish from my house, or I am in town I always put it in a bin, never just drop it for some other person to sort out.

[Callum]

But Magic some people are payed to pick up rubbish.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
But Magic some people are payed to pick up rubbish.

Like i said before, thats just a excuse. The 'guilt free' card.
When they could be paid to do other jobs, yeah.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Callum
But Magic some people are payed to pick up rubbish.

Like i said before, thats just a excuse. The 'guilt free' card.
When they could be paid to do other jobs, yeah. Great idea! forget about the people who are supporting their familys! just make them redundant and send the unemployment rates up!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away" I don't.

Kiz, you really don't get it do you. The second that full hygienic can becomes empty a reaction takes place that makes it the most vile uncool thing to be seen with.
Can you not tell the difference between a full can and an empty one? I can. I mock people with empty cans. Especially if they have cold hands.

Ohhhh silly me!!!! So that half drunk bottle of lemonade I have in my fridge is rotten??

ewwwwww

Originally posted by Callum
But Magic some people are payed to pick up rubbish.

But that doesnt make it right???

By that logic if a hitman is hired to kill someone....... that makes it ok :wink:

On second thoughts... I know some of you arent responsible for your house hold bills but council tax is a hefty charge that all adults have to pay. Some of that tax pays for people to clean the streets..... think of how much money we could all avoid paying if we didnt drop so much litter

[Scarlett.]

Why does the other side of the arguement keep comparing dropping rubbish to murder

Hitmen and street cleaners are two different sort of people

[Jack]

Originally posted by Chewy
Why does the other side of the arguement keep comparing dropping rubbish to murder

Hitmen and street cleaners are two different sort of people

It's an analogy, it's not a literal comparison between the two - it's a comparison to the principle/logic behind it.

[Scarlett.]

its a stupid comparison, they are two opposite things, try finding better examples

[Jack]

Originally posted by Chewy
its a stupid comparison, they are two opposite things, try finding better examples

I don't think yuou understand what an analogy is.

[Scarlett.]

Logic behind murder - Hatred, motivation for revenge or heat of the moment

Logic behind litter dropping - Cold hands, no bins in sight

[Jack]

Originally posted by Chewy
Logic behind murder - Hatred, motivation for revenge or heat of the moment

Logic behind litter dropping - Cold hands, no bins in sight

Again you're missing the point. I was not comparing the acts of murder and littering. Callum said he has a right to drop litter because he has free will. If everyone had the attitude then that means people have the right to go around assaulting people because it's "free will". Of course the comparison is an extreme but that's what is usually used in an analogy to exaggerate the point.

[Scarlett.]

Anywho we all do our best not to drop litter but sometimes we drop it

[Captain.Remy]

One thing I found funny (or not but at the moment it was), it was in the London tube, on the evening and people got magazines. They read it in the tube and drop then on the seats. I was with an english friend and I told him "But they can't do that, there are magazines everywhere, why do they drop them ?" and this one told me "Well they drop it because an other guy will come and read it so it's like if they give it". It seemed weird lol

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Chewy
its a stupid comparison, they are two opposite things, try finding better examples

Are you saying my point or post is stupid? Because we can go down that road if you want to.

Ok.... lets put it another way, some is paid to steal from a jewelers or someone is paid to keep them safe (ie, protection money)

Are any of those right..... because they are all paid to do a job arent they?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by Chewy
its a stupid comparison, they are two opposite things, try finding better examples

Are you saying my point or post is stupid? Because we can go down that road if you want to.

Ok.... lets put it another way, some is paid to steal from a jewelers or someone is paid to keep them safe (ie, protection money)

Are any of those right..... because they are all paid to do a job arent they? Your point isnt stupid, its just the example you used, anyway thanks to Jack I understand it now

[~Kizwiz~]

If everyone dropped litter

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/kizzywizzy/litter.jpg

[Red Moon]

People that repeatedly drop litter should be given antisocial behavior orders and if they carry on dropping litter they should be given community service picking the stuff up!

[~Kizwiz~]

What a wonderful idea!!!!!!!!!!

But I believe, that asbo's cover litter..... I might just write to my MP to make sure that people are aware of this :spin2:

[Lauren]

Good idea Red! I wish people enforced this however, - and I may follow Kiz's example of writing to my local MP. Furthermore, I also do Conservative Future speeches - I'll bring it up with community support workers.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Dr43%er
"If I lived in a nice place then I wouldn't litter but as I live in a horrible place, I don't see the point."

If people, like you, did not drop litter and took some pride in where they lived then thing may improve. Whilst you treat is like a **** hole it always will be.

Pride in where I live? You try living in my area. Me trying to "save the area" is not going to trigger everybody else into doing the same, I know it's a scruffy thing to drop litter but the area is not going to change because the people in the area are not going to change so therefore, there is no point in me doing it. Yes, it's lazy, it's boneidle, it's scruffy, all of which I'm aware of and I know it shouldn't be done, and I wouldn't dream of doing it an area that was half decent but my area ... you are wondering when the next shooting will be, not the next snicker wrapper being threw.

And Magic, telling people what to do and talking down to them is not going to make them go all environmentally friendly.

And just because everyone else treats it like a mess, you can too? I live in an equally messy environment (since there's seagulls and chip-shops everywhere (a deadly combination :tongue:), that doesn't help) but it doesn't ask much to put your sweet-wrapper in your pocket until you come to the next bin or something.

On a general point - I don't understand the argument that there's few bins everywhere. This may be because down here there's more than other places, but I find that hard to grasp...

Honestly? Yes. Why should I treat the area any better than the people who live in it? I don't purposely set out to drop some litter ... I hardly keep a tally of how many wrappers I throw to try and beat it weekly, but I do throw wrappers if there is no bin in sight because everybody else does, my wrapper won't make a difference as the area is a $hit hole as it is.

I understand that - since everybody unintentionally throws things away...like chewing gum or a little sweet wrapper.

But I don't understand the mentality where your rubbish makes no difference. Because it does, it's the act of everybody's neglect...and should you choose to not be so neglecting, then although there would be little change, it's at least something. It doesn't excuse laziness.

So you throw chewing gum and little sweet wrappers away? If you do then your whole argument to me is very hypocritical ... it's not the size of the wrapper that counts, it's what you do with it. :wink:

Also, I've not once said it excuses my laziness, I've said enough times that it is a lazy, boneidle thing to do.

"it's at least something"

Like it matters. It will all pile up again if you give it 5 minutes.

Well no, since, as I said, that's unintentional and everybody does unintentionally sometimes. But you've said up there that you throw away if there's not a bin within sight...which suggests you look around and then intentionally throw it away.

And lol @ the size doesn't matter reference :tongue:

I didn't mention it was unintentional .. that comment didn't come from me.

And no, I don't believe you can unintentionally spit chewing gum out of your mouth or throw a sweet wrapper. You must be aware that you are about to spit chewing gum out of your mouth and that the wrapper you've just finished is about to disapear out of your hands ... ?

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Legend
You must be aware that you are about to spit chewing gum out of your mouth and that the wrapper you've just finished is about to disapear out of your hands ... ?

Ahh you see I have a solution for that problem which I always do, put wrapper in pocket and when your done chewing put gum in wrapper and throw away when near a bin

Thats what I do anyway

[Scarlett.]

I swallow my chewing gum and put the wrapper in my pocket

[Legend]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
Originally posted by Legend
You must be aware that you are about to spit chewing gum out of your mouth and that the wrapper you've just finished is about to disapear out of your hands ... ?

Ahh you see I have a solution for that problem which I always do, put wrapper in pocket and when your done chewing put gum in wrapper and throw away when near a bin

Thats what I do anyway

It's not me who does that, it's Shaun ... I don't chew chewing gum. :tongue:

And actually, I think spitting chewing gum out is 10x worse because I've stood in it many of times, at least a wrapper doesn't stick to your shoe ... and before anybody says anything, I'm not justifying it.

[~Kizwiz~]

LOL.... your right.... chewing gum is a pest on pavements.... and it lasts forever....yuk

[Christina]

I dont really think theres any need to litter.. in most places bins are always provided so i use them and when there arent bins i keep it with me until i find one. I hate it when people spit on the floor aswell!!! :yuk:

[Tom]

Originally posted by ~kizwiz~
LOL.... your right.... chewing gum is a pest on pavements.... and it lasts forever....yuk

People who spit chewing gum out on the floor are disgusting. That is one type of littering I cant stand in any way and cant excuse. IMO, throwing chewing gum on the floor is just as bad as spitting.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Callum
But Magic some people are payed to pick up rubbish.

Like i said before, thats just a excuse. The 'guilt free' card.
When they could be paid to do other jobs, yeah. Great idea! forget about the people who are supporting their familys! just make them redundant and send the unemployment rates up!

No. What about cleaning hostpitals, tidying parks, improving puplic facilities. Their are more jobs available in the puplic sector, so dont think by throwibng your rubbish around you are improving peoples lives - because honestly your not.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
Why does the other side of the arguement keep comparing dropping rubbish to murder

Hitmen and street cleaners are two different sort of people

Because if you say you can drop litter by choice, you can murder by choice.

It's a powerfull anolaolgy.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Callum
Well I'm not going to look a right plonker walking down the street with rubbish in my hand, ew! That's just filthy imo.

PMSL.

And lets open up the discussion.

Litter - Do you drop it?
Does it annoy you? etc.

[Conor]

I drop it without realising sometimes, but litter doesn't annoy me. I dont really care at all about global warming and stuff. And recycling just a waste of time.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Conor
I drop it without realising sometimes, but litter doesn't annoy me. I dont really care at all about global warming and stuff. And recycling just a waste of time.

How does litter cause global warming? :puzzled::puzzled:
Hmm, I just think its all our job to keep our country tidy... so it annoys me abit.

[~Kizwiz~]

Of flippin heck......

its got my blood boiling already.

I must resist......

[Fom]

Why would you drop litter on the floor? I always keep hold of rubbish until I reach a bin, and in Manchester... bins don't come often. I put rubbish in my bag if I have it on me as well... When I get home I have to empty it. NEVER do I drop litter, it is dis respectful!

[Magic]

Originally posted by ~Kizwiz~
Of flippin heck......

its got my blood boiling already.

I must resist......

haha same, although I had to laugh at Callums point now. Surely he couldn't of been serious?

Anway - any people getting lots of Litter in there area? We are still getting people through it out the window, and every week the same person on the same day chucks out a bag full of used lunch stuff. I just want to catch him do it one day at throw it back at him :mad::mad:

Some idiots threw loads of boxes in a field gate way... but left there adress! So we reported in to the council; the couldn't fine them, just 'ask' them not to again. :mad:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Fom
Why would you drop litter on the floor? I always keep hold of rubbish until I reach a bin, and in Manchester... bins don't come often. I put rubbish in my bag if I have it on me as well... When I get home I have to empty it. NEVER do I drop litter, it is this respectful!

I'm the same, I will put it in a bag or in a pocket until I reach a bin. I never ever drop litter.

I think that its disgusting and am gobsmacked that people openly admit to it.

And in some areas you can be fined for it

[andyman]

Just done my early morning tipping... Back to nature i say. :wavey: