Global Warming

[cgimusic]

Do you believe that global warming is caused by man-made carbon emissions?

[Tom]

I don't believe it is happening purely because it has happened on more than one occasion in the past. I do think we are making things worse but I don't think it is purely down to us, in fact I believe our influence is a small one.

[Glenn.]

I couldnt care less if we were. So the temperature of the earth is going up which could cause catastropic climate shifts across the globe. Britain will be hotter thats all I care about. You might think that Im being a bit immature, but I honestly dont care. If anyone is too blame for carbon emissions its Asia (I.E China/Japan,Tokyo) with all there power plants dumping crap into the atomsphere.

[KKBL]

anyone who doesent care makes me sick.because of global warming thousands of animals will become distinct(ie theyl die),the million of people who die in africa every from the heath will quadrople,the tsunami will become an annualy event and as for "oh yaaay global warming now i can get a tan" you need sun to get a tan and sun wont be something youll see very often with all the huricans,floods and mansoons.

[Glenn.]

Originally posted by Mr.Glass
anyone who doesent care makes me sick.because of global warming thousands of animals will become distinct(ie theyl die),the million of people who die in africa every from the heath will quadrople,the tsunami will become an annualy event and as for "oh yaaay global warming now i can get a tan" you need sun to get a tan and sun wont be something youll see very often with all the huricans,floods and mansoons.

But its not just our country contributing to the earths rising temperature. Why should we be the only ones with it rammed down our throats? I like to think I do my part for the earth, i.e switching off unnessesary appliances. And for the record, the people who live in africa who are dying, isnt due to global warming, thats there governments thought, and please note also, Britain is the only country in the world who donates to this cause,. Fair enough it will excelerate, but its not Britain who should fit the bill. And I think we are fully aware what extinct means, were not after all stupid.

[KKBL]

Originally posted by GlennDines123
Originally posted by Mr.Glass
anyone who doesent care makes me sick.because of global warming thousands of animals will become distinct(ie theyl die),the million of people who die in africa every from the heath will quadrople,the tsunami will become an annualy event and as for "oh yaaay global warming now i can get a tan" you need sun to get a tan and sun wont be something youll see very often with all the huricans,floods and mansoons.

But its not just our country contributing to the earths rising temperature. Why should we be the only ones with it rammed down our throats? I like to think I do my part for the earth, i.e switching off unnessesary appliances. And for the record, the people who live in africa who are dying, isnt due to global warming, thats there governments thought, and please note also, Britain is the only country in the world who donates to this cause,. Fair enough it will excelerate, but its not Britain who should fit the bill. And I think we are fully aware what extinct means, were not after all stupid.

i never said it was.i never said even said you should play your part.i just said anyone who doesent care makes me sick.and as for the Africa thing.21 million people die every year in Africa due to poverty.only 20 million would die if it wasent for the heath.that means 1 million die because of the heath.because of global warming 1 will become 2,2 wil become 3 and 3 will become 4....

[Glenn.]

Originally posted by Mr.Glass
Originally posted by GlennDines123
Originally posted by Mr.Glass
anyone who doesent care makes me sick.because of global warming thousands of animals will become distinct(ie theyl die),the million of people who die in africa every from the heath will quadrople,the tsunami will become an annualy event and as for "oh yaaay global warming now i can get a tan" you need sun to get a tan and sun wont be something youll see very often with all the huricans,floods and mansoons.

But its not just our country contributing to the earths rising temperature. Why should we be the only ones with it rammed down our throats? I like to think I do my part for the earth, i.e switching off unnessesary appliances. And for the record, the people who live in africa who are dying, isnt due to global warming, thats there governments thought, and please note also, Britain is the only country in the world who donates to this cause,. Fair enough it will excelerate, but its not Britain who should fit the bill. And I think we are fully aware what extinct means, were not after all stupid.

i never said it was.i never said even said you should play your part.i just said anyone who doesent care makes me sick.and as for the Africa thing.21 million people die every year in Africa due to poverty.only 20 million would die if it wasent for the heath.that means 1 million die because of the heath.because of global warming 1 will become 2,2 wil become 3 and 3 will become 4....

But I hate to be cynical, it isnt our fault that they are living in poverty, its there governments fault. You cant really blame global warming over the actions the african government. They choose to ignore what is happening in their own country.

[Spike]

I really couldn't care less about Global warming, it doesn't interest me one bit and i'm not going to be around when it gets really bad. People should stop worrying about global warming the future and get on with their lives while they still can.

I think we are making it worse but I think there are other reasons why global warming is happening.

[Bells]

Ignorance is bliss (up to a point), but a large number of people simply do not know what is going on right now in terms of government decisions and how pollution, especially atmospheric from power stations etc. - i.e. carbon emissions - is a burning issue of the moment. Add to that similar problems we get from cars etc. and you're left with all kinds of scary thoughts. In direct response to the thread: of course it is a contributing factor.

Nevertheless, I recently heard about some developments - primarily in the rest of the EU - but they gave me more hope for the future of our energy (in the form of renewable sources), as well as solutions to the current car problem. For example, in certain European countries they're trying to ameliorate their public transport system, encourage car-sharing, and even have 'paying a fine' systems, whereby cars that are bad for the environment have to pay money. There are similar things in France where town centre traffic can get awful: as a result, on certain days, cars with an even number plate can enter, and on others simply odd ones. Unique 'pastilles vertes' can distinguish cars that are good for the environment from those that are not. And, of course, there are plenty of little bits and bobs that households can do to help (e.g. recycling, usage of water/electricity).

In terms of energy on more of a national scale, I am well aware that nuclear energy is seen as an alternative. But, of course, there are fors and againsts for it like any other thing - serious debates going on at the moment. I'll save that for another thread though should it present itself! Introductions of wind farms etc. worries some environmentalists whilst encouraging others - you just can't win... plus, the arguments that renewable sources of energy don't give us enough energy can be counterargued by more developed scientific arguments, I've heard. The point is though that we can't rely on crude oil forever - the fact that it presents problems for the environment is just another problem that happens to be very apparent.

I think it is important that people become more aware of these issues. After all, it's one thing getting on with your daily lives - but the fact that people seem to have no idea at all when they could actually be making a difference in one way or another, worries me. Especially when the Internet is so accessible and a whole host of information is available at our fingertips: I think it should be used a lot more at least, perhaps, for interest's sake.

[Bells]

Originally posted by GlennDines123
it isnt our fault that they are living in poverty, its there governments fault. You cant really blame global warming over the actions the african government. They choose to ignore what is happening in their own country.

Choose to ignore? I would agree that global warming isn't to blame, in many ways, but I'd think more carefully about the first part. I would say things are a lot more complicated than that. And, either way, I'm not sure why Africa is the focus of a topic that is well and truly 'global' (hence its name).

[Xander]

There is nothing we can do now, its too late. People will still continue to use their cars, burn fossil fuels, so we are too blame for making it worse.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Xander
There is nothing we can do now, its too late. People will still continue to use their cars, burn fossil fuels, so we are too blame for making it worse.

If we didn't then the world would come to a stand still and we would be going back in time with technology.

Personally I believe global warming is the Earths natural process but I think we are speeding it up a little. However I'm not in the slightest bit interested because until the government lead by example then I'll turn my TV off when I'm not watching it.

[Shaun]

Not completely by man-made emissions, but there's no real way of denying that they don't contribute to global warming...

I think the cynics are just being hyperbolic again and claiming that everything is OK and sweeping everything under the carpet. Unfortunately, it's these selfish actions which may inevitably lead to there not being a carpet.

[secrets]

its happened many times in the past,and it will happen again.
the reason we get it rammed down our throats is because its an excuse for the government to add even more taxes to our struggling economy.!

regarding starving Africa; we give billions in aid to despots and corrupt regimes,and the people never see a penny of it.! WHY.!

[bananarama]

I am not convinced that the industry of man is responsible alone for an apparent global warming. Could be down to shear over poulation. Every individual be it man or animal is a minature heater. The more heaters you have the globe will get hotter quicker...

I don't understand anyone saying they could not care less if global warming is happening as for whatever the reason a hotter globe will kill millions in the long term.....Just plain inhuman to say you "dont care"....

[Captain.Remy]

I'm being honest right now and I do not care, at all. I mean, this is all crap, all our governments try to make us think it's only our fault when it's not: it plays a part but not all. From the scientists theories, it had to happen. Period.

So I do live my life the way I want to, I do not recycle, we all pay enough takes to pay the national services to do it. And from what I see, it didn't change much in my life, I guess it may sounds selfish but sometimes we have to think about ourselves.

[Stu]

Some of the views in this thread absoloutely baffel me. If this thread is a microcosm of greater Britains view , its safe to say we are all ****ed.

Apathy and ignorance.

[Sunny_01]

I really truly believe that every living thing has a lifetime and then dies. Could this not be the case with our planet? is it not now showing its age? Yes I think we contributed to the ageing process but I think that like everything else in life the earth is getting old and tired and will eventually die (hopefully a very very long time from now)

I know we go on about industry, cars etc being responsible but lets not forget that cows play a huge part as I am sure do other animals. Cows produce the most methane which is really harmful to the ozone layer. :dance2:

[secrets]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I really truly believe that every living thing has a lifetime and then dies. Could this not be the case with our planet? is it not now showing its age? Yes I think we contributed to the ageing process but I think that like everything else in life the earth is getting old and tired and will eventually die (hopefully a very very long time from now)

I know we go on about industry, cars etc being responsible but lets not forget that cows play a huge part as I am sure do other animals. Cows produce the most methane which is really harmful to the ozone layer. :dance2:

Sunny,
what a great ,well thought out post,and of course,sadly you are absolutely right.:sad:

[\PJ/]

IMO:I think global warming is our fault for being as shelfish as we have been and not actually gave a thought about the world and what were actually doing.But i don't think we will be around to see the real effects.

[Harry!]

Global warning as an issue and if we dont do something it would be goodbye world and there is nowhere to escape to so...

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I really truly believe that every living thing has a lifetime and then dies. Could this not be the case with our planet? is it not now showing its age? Yes I think we contributed to the ageing process but I think that like everything else in life the earth is getting old and tired and will eventually die (hopefully a very very long time from now)

I know we go on about industry, cars etc being responsible but lets not forget that cows play a huge part as I am sure do other animals. Cows produce the most methane which is really harmful to the ozone layer. :dance2:

Doubt the planet is dying any time soon.(millions of years to go with or without humans). What is dying is civilised attitudes being replaced with cold blooded selfish attitudes (The death of the soul if you like not the death of the planet)

Such people lack the insight to realise not caring could well mean they and there loved ones will become victims to climate change within their life time. The tragedy last year of the man who died of hypothermia while stuck in a drain shows clearly that no one is safe from being a victim of climate extremes what ever the cause.....

[Conor]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I'm being honest right now and I do not care, at all. I mean, this is all c**p, all our governments try to make us think it's only our fault when it's not: it plays a part but not all. From the scientists theories, it had to happen. Period.

So I do live my life the way I want to, I do not recycle, we all pay enough takes to pay the national services to do it. And from what I see, it didn't change much in my life, I guess it may sounds selfish but sometimes we have to think about ourselves.

Agree 100%! I hate having to recycle and I never will. The governments are trying to brainwash us.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I'm being honest right now and I do not care, at all. I mean, this is all c**p, all our governments try to make us think it's only our fault when it's not: it plays a part but not all. From the scientists theories, it had to happen. Period.

So I do live my life the way I want to, I do not recycle, we all pay enough takes to pay the national services to do it. And from what I see, it didn't change much in my life, I guess it may sounds selfish but sometimes we have to think about ourselves.

Agree 100%! I hate having to recycle and I never will. The governments are trying to brainwash us.

Amazing!!!!Recycling is not just about climate change..Its about damage to the environment we all live in. Its about saving rescources for future generatins to enjoy as we do now.....Yes Governments brainwash but alas some brainwash themselves into a false sense of security...

Just because a government may be hated does not mean one should hate future generations by condemning them to a future of land pollution.

The day will come when not to recycle will hit the pocket......Then I suggest there will be a change of attitude...

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Sunny_01
I really truly believe that every living thing has a lifetime and then dies. Could this not be the case with our planet? is it not now showing its age? Yes I think we contributed to the ageing process but I think that like everything else in life the earth is getting old and tired and will eventually die (hopefully a very very long time from now)

I know we go on about industry, cars etc being responsible but lets not forget that cows play a huge part as I am sure do other animals. Cows produce the most methane which is really harmful to the ozone layer. :dance2:

Doubt the planet is dying any time soon.(millions of years to go with or without humans). What is dying is civilised attitudes being replaced with cold blooded selfish attitudes (The death of the soul if you like not the death of the planet)

Such people lack the insight to realise not caring could well mean they and there loved ones will become victims to climate change within their life time. The tragedy last year of the man who died of hypothermia while stuck in a drain shows clearly that no one is safe from being a victim of climate extremes what ever the cause.....

Like I said hopefully a very long time from now. I am under no illusions that it is going to happen anytime soon, but do think a lot of the changes are down to the ageing planet that we live on also with some contributions from man and industry.

I certainly care whether the planet survives or not, I already have a grandchild who will continue his life on this planet as will his family and families family. I just think that even the small changes we make will make very little difference until the big changes are made in Industry and by governments as a whole right across the world which sadly is unlikely to happen.

[Barbie]

We have spoken about this endlessly in college

The world goes through this anyway the temperatures rise and plummet over a period of time.. so whether we contributed or not the earth would be doing this anyway. the difference is that we are making the process speed up slightly so really all we can do is slow the process down not stop it or put it into reverse...
remember its not the earth we need so save its ourselves and the wildlife we live with!

[ProjectWeirdo]

I'm really not sure...

In school, teachers tell us that yes, it is due to us, and that if we don't stop soon, we'll all be dead in 500 years. *le sigh* Ok, maybe not that extreme, but it's along those lines...

But my dad tells me that our planet goes through cycles anyway, just like the ice age was a cold cycle, then the planet warmed up again. I think that makes a lot more sense, but I still think we add a little to the process...

[Barbie]

We could actually be about to go into an ice age ironic really but somthing happens in the atmosphere to the point where we will get an ice age
no one really knows

[InTheFade]

global warming is a business. and it's not like it's never happened before. if it hadn't, it'd still be an ice-age...

[Hades]

Yes the world goes through cycles , but the difference is last time we had a global warming their was not a human civilisation to destroy , and their was no human civilisation to accelerate the process.

besides , you dont need an excuse to be nice to the environment either way. Some of the views in this thread are just plain ignorant

[lolester]

its f..u..c.k.i.n..g climate change

climate change has been happing in cycles for hundreds of years. and yes the cycle at the moment is heating up insetd of cooling down

fact... when Shakespeare was alive the themes was frozen and then the age of mammals was according after the dinosaurs the uk/half joint with France during the grate floods the uk was a huge dessert and the medraten wasn't a sea but was a dessert.

everything on earth is a cycle .. days months years .. seasons ... and you guessed it climate change

and it is a huge pet hate of mine when people refer to climate change as global warming, when global warming is only in the earth cycle.

further more i believe the government is just trying to cause a moral panic of global warming and stop using petrol and gasses as an excuse to stop developing countries developing.

also the funny side is that iv done a whole essay on my argument 2000 words and 2000 words of research 4000 in total . so i would go more in depth but it would take too long.

but i know alot about this subjet

[Matt10k]

I have seen some evidence to suggest it is an exclusively man made phenomena, and others showing it has nothing to do with man made CO2 emissions at all.

I'd tend to believe that we do influence carbon emissions but not nearly as much as we are led to believe by the media.

I've seen lots of evidence for example that shows it is actually changes occurring inside the sun that is causing the change and that this has happened on a cycle (which can easily be predicted) for thousands of years. Also that volcanoes and rotting vegetation actually contribute more to Co2 emissions than all man made sources combined.

There is also the points many scientists make, that Co2 is not one of the most important greenhouse agents. Gasses for example trap far less heat than the most important green house agent- water vapour, without which the earth would completely freeze over…