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Drinking : Drinking is a tough one , mainly because drinking and me dont go so well together. Its an extremely volatile drug that depends so much on scene , setting , and drinker. Everyone reacts in a different manner.
Do you think if drink had been synthesised today it would be legal? Not. A. Chance.
Underage drinking I have no problem with. Its just a part of teenage life. Just dont do it behind my house. Or get violent. Again , as long as its done right , I dont have any problem with it. Its just not for me a lot of the time , which is why I rather...
Cannabis : Cannabis is in a land of extremes right now. About 60-70% of people I know see it as a harmless substance with very few consequences as long as its done right and its done in moderation. I share that view.
A night out drinking for me will include falling , singing , bitching , and often , a bit of tears. The next morning , I am punished with a hangover.
A night getting stoned will involve peace , laughter , great tasting food , the ability to surf my mind wherever I want it to go , and NO hangovers the next morning.
And even if you are not 'down' with the herb , you have to admit , prohibition causes more harm than the drug itself never will.
With prohibition we are getting innocent , peaceful smokers being put in prisons made for rapists and murderers. With prohibition we are getting often poisonous weed on the streets. With prohibition we are getting somehting that is simply not working as people are going to smoke weed if they want to anyway.
Smoking : Smoking is a touchy one for a lot of people. You know my views so I will be brief.
Its simple. Let me do what I want with my life as long as I am not harming your life.
Afraid of passive smoking? Its okay. We can avoid each other on the street.
Other Drugs : Again , I will try to be brief.
Ecstacy : Nothing wrong with ecstacy , as long as you know exactly what you are doing and you limit your intake of it. Simple as. I dont use it a lot though.
Hallucinogenics : In laymans terms , thats LSD , Salvia , Psilocybin [Mushrooms] , and the many other trip tastic substances out their.
These are the drugs that are rarely discussed. And for good reason. As long you have the right mood , and the right people watching your back , not a whole lot tends to happen crime-wise with them.
Hallucinogens are not party drugs. Their not the drugs the chavs around the corner are on. Their not the drugs you get sent to rehab because of. And because of that , I have no problem with them.
They are , however , not for the faint hearted! They might just change your perspective on everything in life!
Cocaine , Crack Cocaine , Heroin , Speed , Crystal Meth etc : Im like all of youse on this one. I will have no involvment with them whatsoever. Not much else to say. Besides , I dont take drugs to speed myself up , or go into a state of blissfull apathy. I take them to get rushes of creativity , and to see the world in a positive , peaceful light. These drugs dont do the trick for ANY of that.
They are purely sensation drugs.
The World : The world is a funny one. My opinion on it changes daily. No matter what you might want to say , their is some really , really ****ed up **** happening in the world. However , theirs also some really , really great **** happening in it. So what do you do? Just go with the flow and focus on the positives. Its like what Rocky said. This world really can bring you to its knees , if you want it to.
People : Im fine with people , for the most part. What I dont like is common stupidity. An unwillingness to break socialy accepted trends. I hate when anything out of the ordinary is dismissed as weird or stupid.
I also detest those who dont accept the opinions of others in a positive , accepting light.
Faith : Im agnostic , and I think anybody religious should be optimisticaly agnostic also.
Anybody who tells you flat out that they have complete proof of something is a liar.
I also dont like the science argument. Science might just be a way of humanising and giving terms to things a greater force created.
Im hoping their is a god , but im not counting my life on it. So what I do for now is respect the one great entity we know for a fact is their.
Thats the planet.
The Future : Im lost on this one. Im going everywhere or nowhere. I simply wont settle and give up on my dreams for a 9 - 5 job. Its not me and im never going to let myself be put in that position for the long term. I want to do something I like.
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Their we have it. Thanks for your time , and feel free to offer your opinion!
Theirs some simple , light hearted stuff coming up later folks. Dont worry.
I shall be discussing the state of Big Brother , the state of the wrestling industry , and my various interests.
Captain.Remy
18-05-2008, 12:17 PM
Finally I found someone on TIBB who does agree with me on smoking and alcohol and drugs. Well said Stu ! We really need to make that club loool
I cannot wait to read some reactions people will get very soon in the thread like 'OMG smoking is bad' or 'I hate smoking'. :laugh:
MrGaryy
18-05-2008, 12:18 PM
Bit of an extremist, are we?
Shaun
18-05-2008, 12:21 PM
Hmm, I think I agree with you on everything. Are you my alter ego?
Kevin
18-05-2008, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I cannot wait to read some reactions people will get very soon in the thread like 'OMG smoking is bad' or 'I hate smoking'. :laugh:
:laugh2: I'm lurking around this thread to see some non-smokers throw a fanny fit... :blush2:
I agree with you on the drugs thing. People who complain about them obviously, to put it nicely, need to get out more. Its something that probably won't affect them and if someone takes them in moderation being completely aware of the consequences (e.g. addition/being caught and cautioned/fined/sent down) then thats fine and its up to them.
Drinking changes from person to person, some can handle it and some can't because it makes them aggressive. I know plenty who fit into each category and I'm on the whole a happy drinker so obviously I don't have a problem with that, but I think its important that people realise what sort of drinker they are, to know their limits and to know if they affect people around them in a negative way.
Conzors
18-05-2008, 12:43 PM
Im Sorry.
But i dont agree with Anything you said here.
I like your opinions and atleast you can back them up.
And you hav a few valid points aswell :)
Originally posted by Gazbo
Bit of an extremist, are we?
Since when did being agnostic and smoking pot become extremist activity? I would have thought it would be the people who kill others in the name of religion and people who lock up pot smokers bring the extremist ones.
Lauren
18-05-2008, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
Bit of an extremist, are we?
Hmm... you've either used the wrong word here or you're very narrow-minded.
By using the word extremist you're suggesting that Stu's views are radical and a political ideology, and therefore, by the very sense of the word - he is trying to impede his views on the rest of us. He's not, it's simply his opinion and he stated that a number of times.
Furthermore, by the use of extremist you're suggesting that your idea of what is right and wrong are the correct views, and every other variation is wrong. Just because Stu's views deviate from yours - does not make them radical or extremist.
Though you probably just used that word loosely and meant something else.
But another point connected with Stu's post - Alcohol is only legal because of the revenue it brings the Government. Many of you will complain about drugs such as Marijuana and Mushrooms but frequent bars and drink. Once upon a time ago alcohol was illegalised because of the health implications and higher crime rate because of it - at this time, Cannabis was legal. It was only then legalised because the Government lost too much money because of taxes from Alcohol sales.
Also, I shall leave you with this:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1208/henningfieldbenowitzsm2wi8.gif.
I'm not saying everyone should smoke cannabis, you have to consider the law - but don't follow in dolt-ish drones with "it's dangerous".
(Sorry for a big long post and semi-hijacking your views Stu!).
Now why are the chavs down the street not snorting lines of Maxwell House?
Tom4784
18-05-2008, 03:20 PM
When it comes to cannabis it's a bit of a grey area for me, since most people i knew used it as a gateway drug but then i know not everyone is like that and that it can be used for medical purposes and that it doesn't cause harm really. I think that cannabis is okay as long as it's used carefully and that it doesn't lead on to something bigger.
When it comes to religion, I'm on the fence. I believe that it's quite possible that there is a higher force at work but We'll never know either way until we're dead so I tend not to worry about it.
On the future thing, i just kinda charge into everything and hope for the best, i'd say i'm probably reasonably inteligent maybe but i just don't know what to do. When it comes to the future i'm very happy go lucky.
Lauren
18-05-2008, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Dezzy
When it comes to cannabis it's a bit of a grey area for me, since most people i knew used it as a gateway drug but then i know not everyone is like that and that it can be used for medical purposes and that it doesn't cause harm really. I think that cannabis is okay as long as it's used carefully and that it doesn't lead on to something bigger.
Surely thats more to do with the people having addictive personalities rather than the drug itself? Like people on prescribed sleeping tablets can use it as a gateway to anti-depressants, and then cocaine etc. The drug itself is not to blame for how some people might use it.
Tom4784
18-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Dezzy
When it comes to cannabis it's a bit of a grey area for me, since most people i knew used it as a gateway drug but then i know not everyone is like that and that it can be used for medical purposes and that it doesn't cause harm really. I think that cannabis is okay as long as it's used carefully and that it doesn't lead on to something bigger.
Surely thats more to do with the people having addictive personalities rather than the drug itself? Like people on prescribed sleeping tablets can use it as a gateway to anti-depressants, and then cocaine etc. The drug itself is not to blame for how some people might use it.
That's quite true, any minor drug can be used as a gateway, that's why i'm in a grey area when it comes to drugs like cannabis. I've only really known people to use it as a gateway but i do know that loads of people use cannabis while never touching more dangerous drugs.
Legend
18-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Cocaine , Crack Cocaine , Heroin , Speed , Crystal Meth etc : Im like all of youse on this one. I will have no involvment with them whatsoever. Not much else to say. Besides , I dont take drugs to speed myself up , or go into a state of blissfull apathy. I take them to get rushes of creativity , and to see the world in a positive , peaceful light. These drugs dont do the trick for ANY of that.
Speak for yourself.
Personally I don't think Cocaine and Speed should be in a category with Crystal Meth and Heroin. Cocaine is a great, clean drug which leaves you with no side effects, unlike weed which leaves you not wanting to do anything for an hour afterwards. As with anything, if it's taken correctly [you don't go overboard with it] then it won't harm you providing you don't get addicted, but that's the same with anything [weed, alcohol etc]. I'm not saying it should be legalised, far from it, but I do think it's frowned upon too much and people with no experience of it like to preech about how awful it is.
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Stu
Cocaine , Crack Cocaine , Heroin , Speed , Crystal Meth etc : Im like all of youse on this one. I will have no involvment with them whatsoever. Not much else to say. Besides , I dont take drugs to speed myself up , or go into a state of blissfull apathy. I take them to get rushes of creativity , and to see the world in a positive , peaceful light. These drugs dont do the trick for ANY of that.
Speak for yourself.
Personally I don't think Cocaine and Speed should be in a category with Crystal Meth and Heroin. Cocaine is a great, clean drug which leaves you with no side effects, unlike weed which leaves you not wanting to do anything for an hour afterwards. As with anything, if it's taken correctly [you don't go overboard with it] then it won't harm you providing you don't get addicted, but that's the same with anything [weed, alcohol etc]. I'm not saying it should be legalised, far from it, but I do think it's frowned upon too much and people with no experience of it like to preech about how awful it is.
Okay fair point. Like 90% of youse then.
Its also unfair to say weed leaves you feeling like doing nothing. Is an hour of being calm and not wanting to do **** all considered a bad thing? Also , it makes me quiet motivated. I get loads of great ideas on the stuff.
The thing with cocaine is that people simply cant be trusted with it. Often people mix it with alcohol , which is plain stupid. And its physicaly addictive , unlike weed. Which leaves a lot of people with no choice as to them wanting to get hooked or not. Ive witnessed threatening behaviour too from people perked up on it.
Not my thing , IMO , but im not going to judge too harshly , as I realise my own view on my preffered narcotics is fairly liberal.
*mazedsalv**
18-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Im underage and i drink. I have never drank at the extent of not being able to walk though or feeling sick or even ill. I know when im older that im going to be someone who can handle myself and what i drink. Also Im not a lightweight at all so thats another good thing. I know i wont drink too much and i trust myself.
Legend
18-05-2008, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Stu
Cocaine , Crack Cocaine , Heroin , Speed , Crystal Meth etc : Im like all of youse on this one. I will have no involvment with them whatsoever. Not much else to say. Besides , I dont take drugs to speed myself up , or go into a state of blissfull apathy. I take them to get rushes of creativity , and to see the world in a positive , peaceful light. These drugs dont do the trick for ANY of that.
Speak for yourself.
Personally I don't think Cocaine and Speed should be in a category with Crystal Meth and Heroin. Cocaine is a great, clean drug which leaves you with no side effects, unlike weed which leaves you not wanting to do anything for an hour afterwards. As with anything, if it's taken correctly [you don't go overboard with it] then it won't harm you providing you don't get addicted, but that's the same with anything [weed, alcohol etc]. I'm not saying it should be legalised, far from it, but I do think it's frowned upon too much and people with no experience of it like to preech about how awful it is.
Okay fair point. Like 90% of youse then.
Its also unfair to say weed leaves you feeling like doing nothing. Is an hour of being calm and not wanting to do **** all considered a bad thing? Also , it makes me quiet motivated. I get loads of great ideas on the stuff.
The thing with cocaine is that people simply cant be trusted with it. Often people mix it with alcohol , which is plain stupid. And its physicaly addictive , unlike weed. Which leaves a lot of people with no choice as to them wanting to get hooked or not. Ive witnessed threatening behaviour too from people perked up on it.
Not my thing , IMO , but Im not going to judge too harshly , as I realise my own view on my preffered narcotics is fairly liberal.
Oh come on, you can't say that after smoking a spliff you'd have the motivation to go for a jog? And no, of course it's not a bad thing, it's a good chill out, but I was simply stating that it does have side effects in that regard whereas coke doesn't.
People can't be trusted with it? But surely that's down to the person as apose to the drug? Same with mixing it with alcohol. Like I said, it's all about taking it correctly, i.e not with alcohol, and to not go overboard with it. Yeah it's more addictive but perhaps I'm just able to control myself more than the average person, but I still think it's down to the person themselves. I know I could never allow myself to get hooked on ANYTHING, not even cigs. I know people will say "you can't physically stop it" but I think you can, if you know your limit and don't think you're invinsible then you'll be alright.
It's all about being sensible, yet enjoying yourself at the same time.
Originally posted by Legend
Oh come on, you can't say that after smoking a spliff you'd have the motivation to go for a jog? And no, of course it's not a bad thing, it's a good chill out, but I was simply stating that it does have side effects in that regard whereas coke doesn't.
People can't be trusted with it? But surely that's down to the person as apose to the drug? Same with mixing it with alcohol. Like I said, it's all about taking it correctly, i.e not with alcohol, and to not go overboard with it. Yeah it's more addictive but perhaps I'm just able to control myself more than the average person, but I still think it's down to the person themselves. I know I could never allow myself to get hooked on ANYTHING, not even cigs. I know people will say "you can't physically stop it" but I think you can, if you know your limit and don't think you're invinsible then you'll be alright.
It's all about being sensible, yet enjoying yourself at the same time.
At the same time you cant say that when you snort a line of coke , you have the motivation to paint a picture , or play a Pink Floyd album :tongue:.
Different kinds of motivaiton , my friend. I would not jog anyway , even if I were blood sober.
And yes , your right , it does depend on the person. But people tend to be foolish. Thats the unfortunate truth , with the vast majority of the public , and perhaps one of the reasons so many drugs are still sadly under prohibition.
Again , my main argument , and reasons for classing Coke with the likes of Methamphetamine , is not anything to do with how healthy one of those drugs are over the other , their just not my thing.
Different people take different drugs for different reasons.
Legend
18-05-2008, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Legend
Oh come on, you can't say that after smoking a spliff you'd have the motivation to go for a jog? And no, of course it's not a bad thing, it's a good chill out, but I was simply stating that it does have side effects in that regard whereas coke doesn't.
People can't be trusted with it? But surely that's down to the person as apose to the drug? Same with mixing it with alcohol. Like I said, it's all about taking it correctly, i.e not with alcohol, and to not go overboard with it. Yeah it's more addictive but perhaps I'm just able to control myself more than the average person, but I still think it's down to the person themselves. I know I could never allow myself to get hooked on ANYTHING, not even cigs. I know people will say "you can't physically stop it" but I think you can, if you know your limit and don't think you're invinsible then you'll be alright.
It's all about being sensible, yet enjoying yourself at the same time.
At the same time you cant say that when you snort a line of coke , you have the motivation to paint a picture , or play a Pink Floyd album :tongue:.
Different kinds of motivaiton , my friend. I would not jog anyway , even if I were blood sober.
And yes , your right , it does depend on the person. But people tend to be foolish. Thats the unfortunate truth , with the vast majority of the public , and perhaps one of the reasons so many drugs are still sadly under prohibition.
Again , my main argument , and reasons for classing Coke with the likes of Methamphetamine , is not anything to do with how healthy one of those drugs are over the other , their just not my thing.
Different people take different drugs for different reasons.
I'd probably have more motivation to paint a picture whilst high than I ever would sober. :tongue:
Originally posted by Legend
I'd probably have more motivation to paint a picture whilst high than I ever would sober. :tongue:
Depends what your high on. I cant imagine cocaine producing a very thought provoking image :tongue:.
[Its like a battle of the drugs here]
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