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JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 09:50 PM
Found on the sky news website!

13 pictures!!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/0,,91248-1317181,00.html

chrissy
26-05-2008, 09:51 PM
wow

Chemicle
26-05-2008, 09:51 PM
link doesn't work.:colour:

dupin
26-05-2008, 09:51 PM
It's gone...

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 09:52 PM
The links not working

Chemicle
26-05-2008, 09:52 PM
Oh, never mind, its working now :dance:

You have to copy and paste the whole thing

IMO i think that they have tried to cram too many different colours and styles in the house, i dont really like it this much this year.

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 09:52 PM
not working??

Dan_
26-05-2008, 09:53 PM
Just copy and paste the whole link.

Great find JOSHUAH.It looks a really cool house, bit wacky in some places but that's BB for you.It kinda reminds of the BB6 house,especially the garden.

supernoodles!
26-05-2008, 09:53 PM
not working

Cody™
26-05-2008, 09:54 PM
ZOMG!

Sam1994
26-05-2008, 09:54 PM
The link doesn't work properly because it doesn't take down all the numbers.

Copy and paste the link into the address bar.

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 09:55 PM
WOW

Cody™
26-05-2008, 09:55 PM
Its very... Errmm... Not sure what to say. :S

Compared to the rest of the house, the bedroom is rather bland with the boring metal frame beds. I wonder what all that is about...

bigbrotherbest99
26-05-2008, 09:56 PM
go on inside big borther they have them but amwating up still you see the other news is

Sam1994
26-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Looks like there is two bedrooms from Picture 9, there's only 8 beds in that picture.

bigbrotherbest99
26-05-2008, 09:57 PM
omg god, thr is 2 dining tables omg omg omng omg omg they could be a divide !!!

dupin
26-05-2008, 09:57 PM
Hate the bedroom...only 8 beds!

jimmytubbs
26-05-2008, 09:57 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/0,,91248-1317181,00.html

Matt08
26-05-2008, 09:57 PM
The bedroom is absolutely hideous. What were they thinking? I love the rest of the house though.

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 09:57 PM
The bedroom looks small

KKBL
26-05-2008, 09:58 PM
ZOMFG

i love the garden,the bathroom & the kitchen.hate the bedroom though

chrissy
26-05-2008, 09:58 PM
****ing amazing house, best EVER!!!!! although the bedroom is ****

officialleafan
26-05-2008, 09:58 PM
It looks like the living area/kitchen hasn't changed much since BB8 :sad:

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 09:59 PM
There's probably more to the bedroom than meets the eye

Cody™
26-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Looks like maybe theyre going to have a rich/poor divide :S

geoking66
26-05-2008, 09:59 PM
I love the kitchen. Pure brilliant design. I think the bedroom is made that way on purpose, they know exactly what they're doing.

Sam1994
26-05-2008, 10:00 PM
I quite like the bedroom, I don't mind it. And at least there's no double beds or triple or any other silly number of beds from the looks of things.

This house is actually the best house they've done. Well done to them!

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:00 PM
The bedroom isn't very nice...but 8 beds, 8 chairs, EIGHT? I thought 16 were going in. Hmmm...

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:00 PM
I like the house, its certainly different

Tom4784
26-05-2008, 10:00 PM
Are these the finished pictures? It all seems a bit bare to me.I like the layout but the house is way to colourful and the bedroom is appalingly basic. Well I kinda like it so i bet it'll grow on me.

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 10:00 PM
I hope not

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:01 PM
Wow, thats amazing, the house looks completely different and I love it. Yep should be 2 bedrooms each with 8 beds(16 going in, looks like). This could mean a divide or competition or just a room for boys and a room for girls.

KKBL
26-05-2008, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by geoking66
they know exactly what they're doing.

yeah..they definetly do.but what exactly are they doing?

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:01 PM
Omg

I LVOE IT
I LOVE IT

but there better be more than 8 housemates

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Just incase you can't be bothered to go to another site:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/bb9hoyuse.png

Theres the main pictures.

I LOVE it. Its really nice, the garden is fantastic. I love all of the garnish colours! The bathroom is very interesting. By the way, I don't think there is two dining tables.

BIG-BRO-FAN
26-05-2008, 10:02 PM
only time will tell

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Love the Diary Room wall! It's amazing so is the bathroom. The bedroom its a bit basic tho!

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by geoking66
they know exactly what they're doing.

yeah..they definetly do.but what exactly are they doing? A competition or a divide. :wink:

It's basically confirmed that 16 are going in now. If 14 were going in, they would have 7 beds. For 12, 6 beds. And so on.

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:05 PM
Clearly a twist at hand, or there cud be a second bedroom. You know they love to keep us speculating.. :rolleyes:

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:08 PM
Will channel 4 release more tonight?

_Tom_
26-05-2008, 10:09 PM
All that's missing is the diary room. Do they usually give us the diary room?

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:10 PM
I'm not so sure about it, it will grow on me the house just seems really dark.
I love the garden, it intrigues me thought what room/thing is under that long tiled thing? Im glad the gardens bigger, lets just hope for nicer weather!
Like the smashed eyes on the wall, like the lounge nice and open plan
Like the kitchen but it seems really small.

I think there is something more that there not revealing, there has to be more rooms.

Sam1994
26-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Not until launch night, _Tom_

Princess
26-05-2008, 10:10 PM
LOVE the bathroom! Bedroom is a bit stingy though.

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by _Tom_
All that's missing is the diary room. Do they usually give us the diary room?

Never, Davina's little surprise on Launch Night.

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:11 PM
Nope the Diary Room chair is never seen until Launch Night - even Davina doesn't see it until shes on air.

I forgot to say - the kitchen is great. I really like the dark wood. I may get cracking on a very simple houseplan in a mo!

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:11 PM
I can't decide if I love this house or not.
I don't hate it though much better than the last 2 years.
I hope we get more pictures from the website tonight

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:11 PM
What is that little glass door in the garden?!

JustWantMore
26-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Cool, I like some of it but hate other bits

Corkie
26-05-2008, 10:13 PM
Some of it I love, some of it i'm too sure about.

dupin
26-05-2008, 10:14 PM
I think there's only one table...I'm sure that there has to be another bedroom though...

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 10:15 PM
It looks so big on the 10th pic! Oh my. I like everything except the bedroom. The Kitchen is awesome.

dupin
26-05-2008, 10:15 PM
Also, how do you get to the bedroom and bathroom from the rest of the house? Which doors lead to where?

Sod_James
26-05-2008, 10:15 PM
OMG i love it. not quite sure of the naked gold guy though.

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:16 PM
There has to be some sort of twist to the bedroom.

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:17 PM
i like it everything except the bedroom

Its bare and the beds are awful!

Jase
26-05-2008, 10:17 PM
I think the beds are in the war thing theme...

But i sooo didn't wonna see the pics but i could help my self :(

house looks amazing

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Corkie
Some of it I love, some of it i'm too sure about.

I feel the same, I loved most of last years house but this year im not so sure.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:17 PM
Don't like the bathroom
Where is the entrance/exit to the house shouldn't it be where the kitchen is or have I got the layout wrong?

Billy
26-05-2008, 10:19 PM
Davina said it was going to be tough, the bedroom is tough.
Maybe they have to have a competition each week to sleep/use the decent bedroom?

Loukas
26-05-2008, 10:19 PM
LOVE! IT!

would love it even more if it was 1 BEDROOM and a dining table with 16 CHAIRS! :spin2:

Sam1994
26-05-2008, 10:20 PM
that bedroom vaguely looks like a prison, in a little way anyway.

Cody™
26-05-2008, 10:20 PM
Well i defo prefer it to last years terribly designed house.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 10:22 PM
It's Bigger Too! which is better! but 8 housemates:S something has to be up!

Tom
26-05-2008, 10:23 PM
Very garish, it would do my head in living in it which is probably the point.

Better series always come from the worst houses.

I'm optimistic.

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Don't like the bathroom
Where is the entrance/exit to the house shouldn't it be where the kitchen is or have I got the layout wrong?

Hmm good point....

Also there area alot of doors in the house, much more than last year.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:24 PM
I would walk out the show if I had to sleep on those beds. The mattress is like 4cm high I couldn't sleep in those beds.

I don't think that is the final dining table and chairs because they look too cheap for a Big Brother house maybe they just got them to use in the pictures to fuel speculation about a divide.

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:24 PM
is anyone still wating up to see if they release moore

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:24 PM
I have a feeling there might be 2 diary rooms..

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:25 PM
All we need now are amazing housemates.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by andybigbro
is anyone still wating up to see if they release moore

Yeah I am, hopefully pics of a second bedroom

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Sod_James
OMG i love it. not quite sure of the naked gold guy though.

I think David is there to get across the luxury side of things.

Billy
26-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by tooperfect
I have a feeling there might be 2 diary rooms..
Doubti t

dupin
26-05-2008, 10:26 PM
It's such a confusing house, it makes for great speculation though.

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm still gonna look at Channel 4's site ad midnight for the high quality images and more exciting news. ;)

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Okay. Here is my terribly designed houseplan. I'm stuck on a few things. The diary room door LOOKS like it is placed where last years entrance was, so the entrance may be on the same wall..but I'm not sure. Also, there is a door on the left hand side, which looks were it was where last years Diary Room door was. Finally, the bedroom door is on the right hand side, in between the wooden/red material walls - directly behind the sofa area.

So, here is my (bad) houseplan!

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/houseplan-1.png

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Thers another door on the same side as that long window that leads onto the garden.

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by andybigbro
is anyone still wating up to see if they release moore

Yeah I am, hopefully pics of a second bedroom

Me too :tongue:, I want to see more :bigsmile:

EamonnBB
26-05-2008, 10:28 PM
I think there might be a divide look at the space between the two sofas... the kitchen is the best :O

They probs arent showing the other bedroom because they dont want us to know how many are going in.

Tom
26-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Theres a glass door in the corner of the garden. I don't think we've been given all of the house pictures. They're keeping some secret for later on or even launch night.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Looking at the pictures they have got to have moved the entrance/exit because there is no sign of it. Maybe the outside set will be located somewhere else this year.

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:29 PM
i like the garden where there is a thing that looks like an ash tray for the smokers to sit at hahah

Loukas
26-05-2008, 10:30 PM
In BB3 they had 2 bedrooms but dident show bedroom 2 untill launch night!

brohoe
26-05-2008, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by tooperfect
I have a feeling there might be 2 diary rooms..

aaha, the two eyes

Arneldo
26-05-2008, 10:31 PM
Thanks of these. Looking at them, it's hard to think that it wont be teams this year.

8 chairs, 8 beds. It looks like the bedroom leads off into another bedroom - maybe more luxurious. I also think only the "rich team" will be able to use the luxurious bathroom, and the glass is there is tease the others.

Loving the house. It looks great. the kitchen and garden stand out for me.

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:32 PM
Reasoning behind me saying the bedroom is were it is...

You can see the door covered in the red material, and if you look on the second picture it is the same shape. Also look to the right - it looks like a mirror but you can see the yellow bedroom wall.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/bedroom.png

Glenn.
26-05-2008, 10:32 PM
The front page of the Daily Star reveals there are more beds in the bedroom. Theres a different angle to the one weve seen.

RichardBB4
26-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Entrance to me looks like the blue door inbetween the dining area and sofas?

Ahhh the Sun and Owl house rumours are coming back to me from BB6 :lol:

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 10:33 PM
I will kill myself if the split the housemates into teams!

Very BBUSA, very BB5!

Christina
26-05-2008, 10:34 PM
Wow thanks for posting, the only part of the house that i dont like is the bedroom x

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:34 PM
Daily Star fron page has the new Davina promo pic

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
I will kill myself if the split the housemates into teams!

Very BBUSA, very BB5! I won't. :spin:

As long as the show isn't dominated by competition, it could be a great series.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:35 PM
Daily Star are going with sexiest ever BB house tomorrow. Don't they go with that every year?

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
I will kill myself if the split the housemates into teams!

Very BBUSA, very BB5!

Its not that bad :tongue:

Jase
26-05-2008, 10:35 PM
I was thinking it was very american style but wernt sure

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Gazbo
I will kill myself if the split the housemates into teams!

Very BBUSA, very BB5!

Its not that bad :tongue:

I quite like the house, but I'm not joking if there is a divide in anyway, I will take my life!

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Daily Star are going with sexiest ever BB house tomorrow. Don't they go with that every year? I see nothing that would make it the sexiest house of BB yet, except maybe the bathroom.

samuels
26-05-2008, 10:36 PM
i think the kitchen has changed LOADS!!!

its more enclosed, as is the bedroom... i dont like the way the bathroom seems very luxurious... big brother aint meant to be luxurious... unless thats what they want the HOUSEMATES to think...

i think there will be a divide again or something along those lines... and i welcome it with open arms if this is the case

=D

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:37 PM
What is that glass door in the garden it looks like an elevator!

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:38 PM
Where do people see the daily star front page????

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:38 PM
I have been saying BB9 needs a format change but I don't want a divide. But if a divide is going to make the show a success bring it on.

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:38 PM
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Sammeth/BB.png

Ive put an arrow to where I think you mean. I also boxed a door which has a light above it. Im thinking this is just the fire exit or something though.

EDIT: Lmao, just realised how stupid I was. Didn't even realise it was the garden door! My heads on my desk

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Yeah thats probably it.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Maybe there is only 8 beds because only 8 people can sleep at one time meaning the house will never be boring

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Sammeth
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Sammeth/BB.png

Ive put an arrow to where I think you mean. I also boxed a door which has a light above it. Im thinking this is just the fire exit or something though.

EDIT: Lmao, just realised how stupid I was. Didn't even realise it was the garden door! My heads on my desk

I reckon the entrance is at the angle that the photographer is standing, get me?

Loukas
26-05-2008, 10:42 PM
OMFG! Davina Looks LUSH! WOW! I really cannot wait for BB9!

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Maybe there is only 8 beds because only 8 people can sleep at one time meaning the house will never be boring

Ooo, I love that, just for the nights though. I would want all of the Hms awake during the day.

Glenn.
26-05-2008, 10:42 PM
The door with the light above it is to the garden not a fire exit.

Matt08
26-05-2008, 10:43 PM
That blue door was the store room last year.

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Can someone post tomorrows daily star front page? please

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:43 PM
That blue door looks too simple for the entrance/exit door, I am thinking it could just be the store room or a toilet.

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Maybe there is only 8 beds because only 8 people can sleep at one time meaning the house will never be boring

Oh wow, thats actually a good idea. And it could really really ruffle them up and annoy them. Cause some unwanted conflict. Well, unwanted by the housemates, not the viewers :D

KKBL
26-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by AdamB
Originally posted by Sammeth
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Sammeth/BB.png

Ive put an arrow to where I think you mean. I also boxed a door which has a light above it. Im thinking this is just the fire exit or something though.

EDIT: Lmao, just realised how stupid I was. Didn't even realise it was the garden door! My heads on my desk

I reckon the entrance is at the angle that the photographer is standing, get me?

the door behind the table?you mean where the photographer is standing?

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Spike
That blue door looks too simple for the entrance/exit door, I am thinking it could just be the store room or a toilet.

I think its the store room.

monkeymadness
26-05-2008, 10:44 PM
hi all the bedroom looks like big brother 1 and also could 8 house mates go on for a half of the weeks and 7 gets evicted and also 1 left so that 1 person in the final and an other 7 goes after the other 7 gets evicted and stopes the rest of the weeks and on the final the 2 whats left goes head to head any wan agree.

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Spike
That blue door looks too simple for the entrance/exit door, I am thinking it could just be the store room or a toilet.

I think the store is the door in the kitchen, so it may well be a toilet. It doesnt look like the entrance would be on that wall, it looks like it would take ages to get to from the outside of the house.

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:46 PM
Right, I was interested when looking at this photo because it hasn't appeared in the photographs, it has glass doors so its another room, but I wonder what room it could be?

http://i25.tinypic.com/2h4ewjb.jpg


I was thinking possibly another bedroom?

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:46 PM
cant wait.....9 days almost

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 10:47 PM
I reckon theres two bedrooms, there has to be. There's probably outdoor bathroom toliet facilities to match the glamorous one inside, it all looks set for a divide!

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Xander
Right I marked this door with a white arrow because i feel its another room that hasnt been photographed and plus it has glass doors.

http://i25.tinypic.com/2h4ewjb.jpg


I was thinking possibly another bedroom?

ohhhh......maybe

samuels
26-05-2008, 10:47 PM
whats on c4 now? so i know whether to bother turning over a bit earlier...?

Loukas
26-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Theres 2 bedroom, i dunno where the other one is but theres deffo 2! On the front cover of the Daily Star it shows it the seond bedroom has red sheats!

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Yeah that glass door could be a bedroom and because there is no glass window to it, the door is glass.

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by mackem_gary_2k8
hi all the bedroom looks like big brother 1 and also could 8 house mates go on for a half of the weeks and 7 gets evicted and also 1 left so that 1 person in the final and an other 7 goes after the other 7 gets evicted and stopes the rest of the weeks and on the final the 2 whats left goes head to head any wan agree.

Ewwww.... I hope not! :yuk:

KKBL
26-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Xander
Right, I was interested when looking at this photo because it hasn't appeared in the photographs, it has glass doors so its another room, but I wonder what room it could be?

http://i25.tinypic.com/2h4ewjb.jpg


I was thinking possibly another bedroom?

it could be a sauna or "the wet room" thingy

RichardBB4
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by AdamB
Originally posted by Sammeth
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Sammeth/BB.png

Ive put an arrow to where I think you mean. I also boxed a door which has a light above it. Im thinking this is just the fire exit or something though.

EDIT: Lmao, just realised how stupid I was. Didn't even realise it was the garden door! My heads on my desk

I reckon the entrance is at the angle that the photographer is standing, get me?

the door behind the table?you mean where the photographer is standing?

Isn't that the diary room though with the shattered eyes?

ross-oaft
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
The kitchen is WOW! love it! not being funny but im not too impressed with much else (so far) still exited though!!

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
This is soo excitng i cant wait now

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
Xander, good find. I bet that is another bedroom - its got to be. I think they've just printed pictures of the one to make us all go.."Hmm, only eight beds!" and just to make us speculate. By the way, on the main living area picture, the wall behind the person taking the picture, is the Diary Room door wall.

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Theres 2 bedroom, i dunno where the other one is but theres deffo 2! On the front cover of the Daily Star it shows it the seond bedroom has red sheats!

I thought that was another bedroom at first but I think its the same bedroom we already have pics of.

Brekkie
26-05-2008, 10:50 PM
Nicest house for quite some time.

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by AdamB
Originally posted by Sammeth
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I adore the kitchen, its fantastic! Best room of the house - especially after last years rubbish!

I also think the blue door on the left hand side may be the entrance, so that would suggest the entrance being extended. Maybe the entrance door OUTSIDE stays where it is, but then theres a long corridor which extends round to the side of the house - which would then leave you at last years diary room area..which looks where the entrance door is this year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Sammeth/BB.png

Ive put an arrow to where I think you mean. I also boxed a door which has a light above it. Im thinking this is just the fire exit or something though.

EDIT: Lmao, just realised how stupid I was. Didn't even realise it was the garden door! My heads on my desk

I reckon the entrance is at the angle that the photographer is standing, get me?

the door behind the table?you mean where the photographer is standing?

Yeah like imagine the photographer just walked in the entrance and took the picture? So the picture is taken from the entrance angle, meaning you cant see the entrance?

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 10:50 PM
I think the Daily Star pic is just a different angle of the bedroom. Unless its behind the yellow door? Maybe there's just two bedrooms for more bitching space or something..

Rory
26-05-2008, 10:50 PM
This is the first year that I dislike the house based on first impressions.

Hugo
26-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by Xander
Right, I was interested when looking at this photo because it hasn't appeared in the photographs, it has glass doors so its another room, but I wonder what room it could be?

http://i25.tinypic.com/2h4ewjb.jpg


I was thinking possibly another bedroom?

it could be a sauna or "the wet room" thingy

not a sauna

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:52 PM
I like the house, I think it could be as good as or better than the BB6 house

EamonnBB
26-05-2008, 10:52 PM
The housemates would need to be careful in the kitchen with those pointy sides.

monkeymadness
26-05-2008, 10:52 PM
another door look closer


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk244/mackie1991/2h4ewjb.jpg

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:52 PM
I love the Garden and the Kitchen!!

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:53 PM
Whats that thing next to the glass door in the garden?

monkeymadness
26-05-2008, 10:53 PM
it a wet room it looks like it

andybigbro
26-05-2008, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by mackem_gary_2k8
another door look closer


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk244/mackie1991/2h4ewjb.jpg

Is that a Door?

JeanP!
26-05-2008, 10:53 PM
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682551.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682544.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682537.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682524.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682529.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682528.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682534.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682531.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682535.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682536.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682548.jpg
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1682550.jpg

:cheer2:

monkeymadness
26-05-2008, 10:53 PM
yh it a door

Xander
26-05-2008, 10:54 PM
Thats a door, but its not even a room as such, theres two seats inside. :conf2:

samuels
26-05-2008, 10:54 PM
i really like it and especially theBB1-esque feel i get from the pic of the bedroom, that really IS back to basics!

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:54 PM
Nearly 12am, there might be some more pics on the website

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by mackem_gary_2k8
another door look closer


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk244/mackie1991/2h4ewjb.jpg

OH MY GOD I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL ALONG!!!!

Should I use my invisibility to fight crime or for evil?

Fom
26-05-2008, 10:56 PM
Only bad thing is I dont feel the eye reflects in the house at all. Minus the eye wall and the kitchen.

dupin
26-05-2008, 10:57 PM
I actually quite like the bedroom now, I think it's like the first couple of series and it's weird to imagine housemates in it...

AdamB
26-05-2008, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Xander
Thats a door, but its not even a room as such, theres two seats inside. :conf2:

Maybe THAT'S the "Love-pod"? :shrug:

Spike
26-05-2008, 10:59 PM
Official website says the wall with the two eyes is the new entrance

BiggerBro
26-05-2008, 10:59 PM
NEW PICTURES ON CHANNEL 4 SITE.

dupin
26-05-2008, 11:00 PM
The thing in the garden is an 'enclosed seating area'.

Hugo
26-05-2008, 11:00 PM
I hate the lockers in the bedroom.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Another thing.. Storage! Where are housemates going to keep clothes ect?

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Yep there is a second bedroom! See it on the C4 site!

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
midnight my arse! it was there at 23:56!!!


lol

dupin
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
That bedroom is the same as the one we've already seen, just with changed sheets, isn't it?

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Like the locker walls in the bedroom and the kitchen looks so much better on the website with the clearer pic

Rory
26-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
Yep there is a second bedroom! See it on the C4 site!
All I see is the same bedroom. :(

Hugo
26-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Another thing.. Storage! Where are housemates going to keep clothes ect?

lockers on the walls of the bedroom

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
Yep there is a second bedroom! See it on the C4 site!

I can only see the bedroom we have already seen

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:04 PM
if the entrance to the house is the door on those eyes where is the diary room?

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:05 PM
its the same bedroom from a different angle!

gawwwd do none of yous notice these things
(referin only to ppl who thought it was a different room)


=D

Fom
26-05-2008, 11:05 PM
The diary room isnt where we thought it was because thats the entrance where the shattered eyes are.
Says so on channel 4 website...

Where on earth is the diary room? Is it in the garden?

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Gazbo
Yep there is a second bedroom! See it on the C4 site!

I can only see the bedroom we have already seen

Sorry I got excite when I saw the grey walls!

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:06 PM
and notice there are NO duvets on the bed... me thinks BB is going for a PRISON theme with this bedroom!

almost makes me glad i didnt get on the show haha!

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:06 PM
In the garden, the orange door with the glass window next to it could be the other bedroom

Xander
26-05-2008, 11:08 PM
Where the heck is the Diary Room? Enless the Entrance and Diary Room are behind the same door.

Interesting that there are lockers on the wall, possibly something is hidden in them?

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:08 PM
I think theres only one bedroom!

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:09 PM
nah i think they just lockers... and they actually stick OUT of the wall as far as i can see like a bedside cabinet- locker style!

=D

MrGaryy
26-05-2008, 11:13 PM
The bedroom is just like the BB6 US on with the secret room! Maybe there's omething hidden in one and whoever finds it will immedaitely get a mission!

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:14 PM
Where is the diary room then because isn't the diary button on the eye wall.

The room from the garden with the glass wall, i am sure thats the other bedroom can't think what else that could be.

They have taken these pictures in a way where we can't get a full idea of what each room is and the layout.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:15 PM
For those wanting a more private gossip theres even an enclosed seating area!!

Thats whats though that glass door!

Rory
26-05-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm confused.
Why would the entrance to the house have a diary room button?

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
The bedroom is just like the BB6 US on with the secret room! Maybe there's omething hidden in one and whoever finds it will immedaitely get a mission!

That actually might happen.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Rory
I'm confused.
Why would the entrance to the house have a diary room button?

I personaly have no idea? maybe you have to leave the house to go to the diary room?

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm sure the Diary Room door is that wall with the eyes on - even the Diary Room Bell is there. Unless the entrance is through a corridor next to the Diary Room or something?

Tom
26-05-2008, 11:18 PM
I'm thinking another vestibule with the diary room coming off like they had the toilet coming off it last year.

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:20 PM
well as far as i can tell... the bathroom and the bedroom are next to each other...

the plain blue door will be a storeroom/toilet,

the green door will be the SECONDARY door to the garden, theyv had that a few times (the sliding glass doors and REAL doors)

and the kitchen is next to the bathroom...

the way the pix have been taken it makes it look like the entrance is at the side where the diary room was last year, also making everything feel out of its order but turn it round so the entrance is in the right place and everything feels right


=D


if that makes any sense lol!

_Tom_
26-05-2008, 11:21 PM
The enterence might be through one of the garden's doors

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:21 PM
Maybe to enter the diary room, you press the button at the entrance and the door opens somewhere else!!?

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 11:23 PM
The Bathroom is opposite to the bedroom. The bathroom is to the right of the Diary Room/Entrance wall - you can see the blue colour and the shape of the glass. The bedroom is next to the kitchen and near to the green door which leads to the garden.

Redmond
26-05-2008, 11:23 PM
I think the house is great, even the bedroom because that's what a bedroom should be like in BB, if it is too cosy and nice then the housemates will spend most of their time in bed, lazing about like in BB8. But if the bedroom is the worst room, looks wise and comfortably speaking then the housemates will be up and about, which is a good thing.

Saying that, I think there will be another bedroom and it will be two teams of 8 this year.

*mazedsalv**
26-05-2008, 11:23 PM
The diary room is the door with the owls eyes on it, right?

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
The diary room is the door with the owls eyes on it, right?

No thats the entrance to the house!

samuels
26-05-2008, 11:25 PM
no

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Redmond
I think the house is great, even the bedroom because that's what a bedroom should be like in BB, if it is too cosy and nice then the housemates will spend most of their time in bed, lazing about like in BB8. But if the bedroom is the worst room, looks wise and comfortably speaking then the housemates will be up and about, which is a good thing.

Saying that, I think there will be another bedroom and it will be two teams of 8 this year.

Wow! When you put it like that! And the hosuemates can you play tricks on eachother too! Like hiding belingings in different lockers!

Fom
26-05-2008, 11:26 PM
No thats got to be the entrance on the eye wall because of the description on the website, its possible the entrance and diary room are in the same place...

Xander
26-05-2008, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
The diary room is the door with the owls eyes on it, right?

What!?
Owls eyes. :laugh:

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:26 PM
I love this house, very different to what we have seen before.

I think and hope that the other bedroom is from the garden on the orange wall with the glass next to it.

I.am.the.invisible.member
26-05-2008, 11:26 PM
Kitchen and garden look the best for me! i hate the bedroom too! i ,ove how they didnt just use green fro the garden - it has pulled off to be really successfull and the best garden ever in BB history! Also i would love to know what the roung glass bit is poping out of the yellow wall? Kitchen suites the eye theme i belive and looks really modern and suffisticated and i like how it is sort of sectioned of from the house! i can see aloth of the eye theme around the house this year expecially the shape of some of the mirrors ( i like how they have presented them this year)

One down point is the living/dinning area - i looks to bare and empty also i wanted either the living area or the dinning area to be sectioned of this year! living area looks simular to BB8 in my eyes and i want the dinning table to be more unique/striking possibly funky as its a main feature within the house!

However i believe the bathroom to be the most popular this year!

Overall i like the house and many features are unique for example the bathroom with the transparrent wall (usually its the bedroom with the transparent wall) could work well ;)
but the open plan area layout is quite similar to previous years but furniture has ben moved round/altered slightly and this year i wanted a completely different + unique house plan. But i think Im being a bit fussy as the BB-houses are always amazing and this one is certainly that!

Dark
26-05-2008, 11:27 PM
I think the entrance to the dairy room, is that wee glass part in the garden!

Xander
26-05-2008, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Rory
I'm confused.
Why would the entrance to the house have a diary room button?

Because its likely that it has two purposes.

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:28 PM
If that was the diary room entrance, wouldn't it have said on the website?

jamess1988
26-05-2008, 11:29 PM
It's pretty blatant now that there will be a divide/team theme this year. They even have the two different coloured eyes on the entrance doors. I personally think that's a dead give-away. I can't think of any other reason they'd do that.

I'm pretty sure once you go through the "entrance" door from inside the house you will get to a vestibule, where you can access the diary room from. Access to the actual entrance door near the ramp will be blocked off by another door at a further distance away.

Ohh and I LOVE the house. I love the angular theme, i really like the ashtray seats in the garden and I especially love the bedroom. It's really horrible, which is how it should be. It will certainly keep the house mates from lounging in bed all day a la BB8.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:29 PM
I think there is one bedroom! Just one!

Fom
26-05-2008, 11:29 PM
Furniture can change everyone, its happened many times before.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:30 PM
Wheres the plasma!!? Theres always a plasma cant find one this year!

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:31 PM
I just realised from the pictures we can't see half the garden

JOSHUAH!
26-05-2008, 11:33 PM
Here is the plasma DoubleTrouble

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/plasma.png

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:34 PM
Those sofas only look bigger enough for 8 people too

AdamB
26-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Spike
I just realised from the pictures we can't see half the garden
Don't be so negative, think of it like we can see half the garden! :laugh::joker:

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
Here is the plasma DoubleTrouble

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/plasma.png

Ohh yeah thanks! But its going to be quite hard for housemates to see!!

AdamB
26-05-2008, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Those sofas only look bigger enough for 8 people too

But there's room for extra sofas!

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by AdamB
Originally posted by Spike
I just realised from the pictures we can't see half the garden
Don't be so negative, think of it like we can see half the garden! :laugh::joker:

but what I am thinking isn't there some doors in the bit of the garden we can't see. I'm sure from the aerial pictures there is some doors there.

Glenn.
26-05-2008, 11:38 PM
This is part of the garden we cant see.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/GlennDines123/housepic.jpg

Those are doors arent they?:spin2:

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:39 PM
Those sofas look to ordinary, I don't think they are the final sofas just small ones to fuel more speculation about less housemates.

Loukas
26-05-2008, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by AdamB
Originally posted by Spike
I just realised from the pictures we can't see half the garden
Don't be so negative, think of it like we can see half the garden! :laugh::joker:

but what I am thinking isn't there some doors in the bit of the garden we can't see. I'm sure from the aerial pictures there is some doors there.

Yeah... saVe a little for launch night :P

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:40 PM
Now that area looks bigger enough for a similar sized bedroom as the other one

AdamB
26-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Oh this is getting so confusing! Does anybody think THIS is were the survivors from Lost are?

Xander
26-05-2008, 11:45 PM
Whoever made that point about the other 2 doors in the garden, its most probably something saved for launch night, it could be the diary room, another room, or goodness knows what!

Glenn.
26-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Ok is it me or does this door look way too small? In comparison with the unknown glass room thingy its really titchy.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/GlennDines123/garden2_440.jpg

noahman
26-05-2008, 11:52 PM
When will the hq photos be out?

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:52 PM
I think the door looks small because the walls are so high

Xander
26-05-2008, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Glenn
Ok is it me or does this door look way too small? In comparison with the unknown glass room thingy its really titchy.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/GlennDines123/garden2_440.jpg

Im pretty sure there double glass doors next to it.

Spike
26-05-2008, 11:57 PM
I think the bedroom could be behind that door, anyone else think that?

Sammeth
26-05-2008, 11:59 PM
Though remember, minor things can change. I remember BB7 press pics had a ramp from the kitchen to the living area, and those were changed to steps on launch night. I am hoping for new sofas, as said above.

Fom
27-05-2008, 12:05 AM
I reckon there will be new sofas, remember bb6 or something, the sofas came in on launch night.

Spike
27-05-2008, 12:06 AM
Just had an idea. Maybe to get into the house, housemates will have to pass through the diary room, when they are in the diary room on launch night they will be given instructions by Big Brother which could tie in with launch night will be a scream.

Smeggypants
27-05-2008, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by noahman
When will the hq photos be out?

I've put some bigger enhanced one's up here.... (http://www.smeggys.co.uk/big_brother_news_topic.php?match=ALL&news_topic=91875&page=1)

Xander
27-05-2008, 12:39 AM
That supposedly "love-pod" in the garden looks like there's a green toilet inside?
It looks like it from the outline and the inside is tiled.
And it would support the theme of the other bathroom with there being no privacy.

http://i32.tinypic.com/w85c0x.jpg
thanks to smeggy for the enhanced pictures

DamonJ
27-05-2008, 12:43 AM
I'd love to go into that house :lovedup:

Loukas
27-05-2008, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Xander
That supposedly "love-pod" in the garden looks like there's a green toilet inside?
It looks like it from the outline and the inside is tiled.
And it would support the theme of the other bathroom with there being no privacy.

http://i32.tinypic.com/w85c0x.jpg
thanks to smeggy for the enhanced pictures

It's not a toilet, on the C4 site they say "For those wanting a more private gossip there's even an enclosed seating area." Meaning that little area!

Xander
27-05-2008, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
It's not a toilet, on the C4 site they say "For those wanting a more private gossip there's even an enclosed seating area." Meaning that little area!

Doh!

Thanks, was getting a little too excited still haven't calmed down yet.:tongue:

Loukas
27-05-2008, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
It's not a toilet, on the C4 site they say "For those wanting a more private gossip there's even an enclosed seating area." Meaning that little area!

Doh!

Thanks, was getting a little too excited still haven't calmed down yet.:tongue:

It's cool! Nether have i! :D Wooo! Bring it on!

MrGaryy
27-05-2008, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Smeggypants
Originally posted by noahman
When will the hq photos be out?

I've put some bigger enhanced one's up here.... (http://www.smeggys.co.uk/big_brother_news_topic.php?match=ALL&news_topic=91875&page=1)

Aaah! Yould have warned me that it would close my Windows! I spent all day dowloading a movie and for nothing! lol!

noahman
27-05-2008, 01:13 AM
WHY is there a large white ashtray in the graden

MrGaryy
27-05-2008, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by noahman
WHY is there a large white ashtray in the graden

Because that where the smokers will sit.

noahman
27-05-2008, 01:17 AM
LOL

geoking66
27-05-2008, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Glenn
Ok is it me or does this door look way too small? In comparison with the unknown glass room thingy its really titchy.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/GlennDines123/garden2_440.jpg

They're double-orange doors, I think that they're the emergency exit/getting things into the garden doors that are in the garden every year.

Matt
27-05-2008, 04:02 AM
Well, I have to say - I LOVE this year's house design!

The garden looks much better than I thought it would and I'm pleased it does so.

My least favourite area of the house is the bedroom for obvious reasons - but I don't think Big Brother would make it like that if he didn't have a plan :P

It's certainly a very different design, and whilst I wouldn't count it among my favourites, it's certainly better than the BB8 house.

Top effort.

Captain.Remy
27-05-2008, 04:14 AM
I don't know actually, it reminds me a bit of the Serbian BB2 house. Full of angles, not matching colours... I just need to wait the launch to see.

Barbie
27-05-2008, 06:27 AM
At the moment i dont like it at all!! hopefully it will grow on me when i see the house tour

love the garden though

Barbie
27-05-2008, 06:38 AM
There isnt a pic of the living area!?

lauracook
27-05-2008, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
Okay. Here is my terribly designed houseplan. I'm stuck on a few things. The diary room door LOOKS like it is placed where last years entrance was, so the entrance may be on the same wall..but I'm not sure. Also, there is a door on the left hand side, which looks were it was where last years Diary Room door was. Finally, the bedroom door is on the right hand side, in between the wooden/red material walls - directly behind the sofa area.

So, here is my (bad) houseplan!

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/houseplan-1.png

This works!!!!

with your house plan it makes it possible to have a luxery bedroom, Its built in the area of the garden where a magazine said there was to be a hidden room....If we say that what they have labeled as the living area is actually the bedroom.......
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/bimbojr0488/HiddenRoom.png

And theres a door in the bedroom which would be in about the right place....
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/bimbojr0488/SecretDor.jpg


Hmmmmmmmmmm

beanny
27-05-2008, 08:32 AM
I like the bedroom, the locker themed wall and the itchy beds may comee as part of a theme?

BigBrotherfan4ever
27-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Love the look of the house, cant wait to see it for real next week:banana:

danbb
27-05-2008, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Originally posted by Xander
That supposedly "love-pod" in the garden looks like there's a green toilet inside?
It looks like it from the outline and the inside is tiled.
And it would support the theme of the other bathroom with there being no privacy.

http://i32.tinypic.com/w85c0x.jpg
thanks to smeggy for the enhanced pictures

It's not a toilet, on the C4 site they say "For those wanting a more private gossip there's even an enclosed seating area." Meaning that little area!

this enclosed seating area reminds me a little of bb7s nowhere

adam7
27-05-2008, 09:21 AM
Cant wait for Davina's tour so the layout will all become more clearer!!

brohoe
27-05-2008, 10:21 AM
big brother must of sent out the press pack early to to media with an embargo on it till mid night, sky news must just thought they'd release it half an hour earily

ColdSomething
27-05-2008, 02:16 PM
OMG! THIS HOUSE IS AWESOME!
BUT I FRIGGIN HATE THE KITCHEN.

dylissimo
27-05-2008, 02:20 PM
I LOVE the house! Can't wait for Davina's tour now!

Anyone else think there is something ABOVE the snug? Definitely looks like there's something up there...

Fom
27-05-2008, 02:27 PM
everyone needs to remember that there has to be plenty of fire escape doors and there will be toilets, so dont take every door seriously. The one in the bedroom is most likely a fire escape, there was one just like that last year.

But the doors in the part of the garden that isnt photographed looks very intresting and i cannot wait till the tour to see what they are for!

dylissimo
27-05-2008, 02:30 PM
A whole corner of the garden isn't visible from these pictures and I'd say thats where the doors are for the other bedroom since 2 doors could be seen in that half of the garden in the early construction pics!

mkdfan
27-05-2008, 02:35 PM
I really dont like the house, i may have to see people live in it to actually like it but its not easy on my eyes. I only like the garden.

Callum
27-05-2008, 02:45 PM
Im quite disappointed to be honest. I really like some areas, like the garden and the kitchen looks nice, but I hate the living area. It is horrible, it's like looking at a double of BB8's they haven't changed hardly anything, it's just horrible. They could have made such a good living area, but they decided to be unoriginal and copy BB8's. The garden is great though, it looks so nice. Bedroom I quite like because it is very different and it will be good to see how the housemates cope with them beds, I don't hate it but I don't love it. The bathroom is really nice and so is the kitchen, I like the colours and the shape. I hope there is more rooms to the house, because at the moment I'm not fussed on it.

MR.K!
27-05-2008, 03:08 PM
from these house pics im still thinking there is ALOT of space where the HND/ HWH used to be.. hopeflully for secret rooms or a tasks area