I find it degrading...

[bringbackscience]

...Says Mario, as he lays on the bed with only his boxer shorts on, while getting rubbed down by his manly looking girlfriend.

If the sight of it didn’t make you puke, the hypocrisy must have.

[Ashleee:)]

i dont really think theres anything wrong with what mario and lisa were doing, they are a couple and she was rubbing his back.

But he should'nt have upset the girls, i agree with that.

:thumbs:

[headaball]

I think we all got that, BB made it clear enough with their numerous zoom in's on Mario's crack that he was being a tad hypocritical. His point was actually a good point, obviously he was in the wrong "position" to make it.

[Matt10k]

He's like a broken record. If he's not thinking up inventive ways to have a go at Steph, he'll be telling everyone that Mikey 'has a disability' and what was with that childish haemoroid insult?!!

If anyone degraded themselves there, it was him!

[Slezer]

Arent there topless pictures of his bird circulating the net?

Talk about degrading.

[LovelyL]

He was just trying to pick an argument as he seems to be doing more and more since him and lisa were revealed as a couple. I've gone off him now, he's very arrogant. I dont want him to go though cos i like the arguments

[~Kizwiz~]

Its getting tiresome really that Mario is playing the typical stereotype of a macho man.

He has said himself that he wants Lisa boobs bigger. I find him vile and vulgar and I hope that its him that goes on Friday. Maybe Lisa will be able to find herself and not be attached to his side

[Shaun]

I'm getting sick of the Lisa-is-a-man comments. Really pathetic. Just because she could probably quite easily kick the **** out of you, doesn't mean she's a man.

[GhettoSuperstar]

He usually means well but I think he will regret saying that. He doesn't seem like a bad person.

[Jay]

How can a back massage of his girlfriend be degrading?

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by Shaun
I'm getting sick of the Lisa-is-a-man comments.

I never said Lisa was a man, I said she was manly and she is.

[Killian]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
...Says Mario, as he lays on the bed with only his boxer shorts on, while getting rubbed down by his manly looking girlfriend.

If the sight of it didn’t make you puke, the hypocrisy must have.

My thoughts exactly. Well said. :thumbs:

[Matt10k]

How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Jay
How can a back massage of his girlfriend be degrading?
Its not the fact thats she is giving him a massage that degrading but the run up to it. mario treats his woman like a she is born to please him imo

Its all about sex or sexual inhibitions? I firmly believe that he thinks that a very sexual in-tune couple is what BB wants. But its not, people love it when housemates get together in the house. its the thrill of the romance that is craved not to horny siliconed people cavorting around.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

They asked for his opinion, if they didn't like the answer he gave them why ask him?

[Shaun]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Originally posted by Shaun
I'm getting sick of the Lisa-is-a-man comments.

I never said Lisa was a man, I said she was manly and she is.

And what on earth does that have to do with Mario?

I fail to see how, other than bodybuilding, she's manly. Just because she doesn't run around in hotpants squealing all the time.

[~Kizwiz~]

Its a dominate/submissive thing.

People want to see a couple who has a dominant partner and a submissive one.

With Lisa and Mario it just isnt there. Mario like to think he is the dominant sexual partner but Lisa isnt as submissive as she plays out to be and thats why isnt not working

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

They asked for his opinion, if they didn't like the answer he gave them why ask him?

So you honestly think if Mikey would have said “How do I look“, after he put the bunny outfit on, jokingly, Mario would have said, “I think you are degrading yourself“? Very much doubt it. He would have played along and had a laugh.

He was just plain nasty to Jen and Steph, because he was childishly holding a grudge from when they refused to wear the bunny outfits. It was uncalled for.

And even if he did think it, why not learn some tact? He’s a 42 year old man, yet his arguments with Steph resemble something from the playground, it’s pathetic.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

They asked for his opinion, if they didn't like the answer he gave them why ask him?

So you honestly think if Mikey would have said “How do I look“, after he put the bunny outfit on, jokingly, Mario would have said, “I think you are degrading yourself“? Very much doubt it. He would have played along and had a laugh.

He was just plain nasty to Jen and Steph, because he was childishly holding a grudge from when they refused to wear the bunny outfits. It was uncalled for.

And even if he did think it, why not learn some tact? He’s a 42 year old man, yet his arguments with Steph resemble something from the playground, it’s pathetic.

What i think he meant was they would dress up to do competition but wouldn't dress up for his stag do, and Steph butted into discussion between Jen and Mario so he answered back.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by Shaun

And what on earth does that have to do with Mario?


Apart from her being his girlfriend, nothing, but then I never said it did.

Originally posted by Shaun
I fail to see how, other than bodybuilding, she's manly.

You answer your own question.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Jay
What i think he meant was they would dress up to do competition but wouldn't dress up for his stag do, and Steph butted into discussion between Jen and Mario so he answered back.

Yes, Jen asked how she looked in a friendly, joking way and he said she was degrading herself a few times, he then brought up the stag do thing from a day or two back and Steph butted in so he got into an argument with her and called her a haemaroid.

What a nice guy...

[Jay]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Jay
What i think he meant was they would dress up to do competition but wouldn't dress up for his stag do, and Steph butted into discussion between Jen and Mario so he answered back.

Yes, Jen asked how she looked in a friendly, joking way and he said she was degrading herself a few times, he then brought up the stag do thing from a day or two back and Steph butted in so he got into an argument with her and called her a haemaroid.

What a nice guy...

He was defending himself, she started on him for no reason which was uncalled for IMO.

[headaball]

Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

There seems to be different rules for men and women.

I could walk around that place in speedos 24/7 without any criticism, maybe a few "wows!" though. When a woman shows any flesh she must be a slag or she's degrading herself. Sad really, It's men that have the problem. I would have loved to have seen Jennifer shake her wee bum like them cheeky girls. I wouldn't have thought any worse of her.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by headaball
Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

There seems to be different rules for men and women.

I could walk around that place in speedos 24/7 without any criticism, maybe a few "wows!" though. When a woman shows any flesh she must be a slag or maybe a few "wows!" though. she's degrading herself. Sad really, It's men that have the problem. I would have loved to have seen Jennifer shake her wee bum like them cheeky girls. I wouldn't have thought any worse of her.

:laugh2: You and me both :thumbs:

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by headaball
Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

There seems to be different rules for men and women.

I could walk around that place in speedos 24/7 without any criticism, maybe a few "wows!" though. When a woman shows any flesh she must be a slag or she's degrading herself. Sad really, It's men that have the problem. I would have loved to have seen Jennifer shake her wee bum like them cheeky girls. I wouldn't have thought any worse of her.

It's pathetic that Mario thinks this way. I didn't think they were degrading themselves.

All Mario proved was that he clearly holds a grudge over something trivial and gets nasty about it with no consideration for the girls feelings.

[headaball]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by headaball
Originally posted by Matt10k
How were the girls degrading themselves though? So they wore something skimpy, big deal. A load of the guys, including Marios best bud Mikey wore a bunny outfit and I didn't hear Mario saying it was degrading then.

There seems to be different rules for men and women.

I could walk around that place in speedos 24/7 without any criticism, maybe a few "wows!" though. When a woman shows any flesh she must be a slag or she's degrading herself. Sad really, It's men that have the problem. I would have loved to have seen Jennifer shake her wee bum like them cheeky girls. I wouldn't have thought any worse of her.

It's pathetic that Mario thinks this way. I didn't think they were degrading themselves.

All Mario proved was that he clearly holds a grudge over something trivial and gets nasty about it with no consideration for the girls feelings.

I actually like Mario, during that wedding task i thought he was very game, ever since it was revealed about him and Lisa he's became a bit of a hemroid himself. I'd much rather he stayed than Steph though.

[steveflashman]

Originally posted by Bubbles
Its getting tiresome really that Mario is playing the typical stereotype of a macho man.

He has said himself that he wants Lisa boobs bigger. I find him vile and vulgar and I hope that its him that goes on Friday. Maybe Lisa will be able to find herself and not be attached to his side

I'm totally agreeing with this and BUBBLES other posts...

I think LISA might find herself in the house without MARIO about.... Since anyone who hadn't forgotten who they used to be would have told him to stop being nasty to a 19 year-old kid who's just trying to be on the telly... And couldn't help it if she's not a good enough actress to pretend she fancies MARIO... Be honest, HELEN MIRREN isn't a good enough actress to convince us she fancies MARIO... And she's his age and really, really good!!!!!!!:whistle:

And HELEN MIRREN is really Italian as well.... NOT!!!!:devil:

[Kore]

Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Kore
Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat crap he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...

[LovelyL]

He just doesnt like steph, its obvious. He also made chicken noises when she walked out the bedroom

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Kore
Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...

Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Kore
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Kore
Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...

Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.

She is hardly walking all over him. He'd look far better if he rose above it.

And him and Jen had obviously been ok since the stag do so for him to bring it up after that amount of time is pretty nasty.

I also agree he just dislikes steph and will go out of his way to try and argue with her. It's pretty funny that at 19, she still comes across as the more mature one in arguments when he resorts to his childish insults.

I've noticed steph will shout abuse back at him but only after he's started it, usually over something really petty.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Originally posted by Shaun

And what on earth does that have to do with Mario?


Apart from her being his girlfriend, nothing, but then I never said it did.

If you'd "never said it did", you wouldn't have mentioned her. :]

Originally posted by Shaun
I fail to see how, other than bodybuilding, she's manly.

You answer your own question.

Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Kore
Why should he let others walk all over him. Theyre all adults...

its not as if jenn is a child. She's old enough to have a kid, shes old enough to take what she gives out IMO.

She is hardly walking all over him. He'd look far better if he rose above it.

And him and Jen had obviously been ok since the stag do so for him to bring it up after that amount of time is pretty nasty.

I also agree he just dislikes steph and will go out of his way to try and argue with her. It's pretty funny that at 19, she still comes across as the more mature one in arguments when he resorts to his childish insults.

I've noticed steph will shout abuse back at him but only after he's started it, usually over something really petty.

I totally disagree.. Jen started all this thing off a few days ago. Mario voiced his opinion when asked. (which he is entitled to do) and Steph turned round and had a go at him... Even though he was answering a question Jen asked..

He wasnt even talking to Steph but Steph butted in. Mario had the right to have a little go, because she was having a go at him first.

I like Mario because he says what he likes, not scared to voice his opinions. He doesnt let bitchy people walk all over him. This is where he is different to Alex. Alex just belittles people and never lets people talk in an argument while she talks absolute rubbish.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by Shaun
Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.

She looks manly. It's no lie. It doesn't deminish her right to equality. It doesn't mean she isn't emotional or compassionate. It doesn't mean she doesn't where girly clothes or makeup. It means she's manly. She is manly.

Is there a PC in the house? Mario's real name is Shaun, right .....

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Kore
I totally disagree.. Jen started all this thing off a few days ago. Mario voiced his opinion when asked. (which he is entitled to do) and Steph turned round and had a go at him... Even though he was answering a question Jen asked..

He wasnt even talking to Steph but Steph butted in. Mario had the right to have a little go, because she was having a go at him first.

I like Mario because he says what he likes, not scared to voice his opinions. He doesnt let bitchy people walk all over him. This is where he is different to Alex. Alex just belittles people and never lets people talk in an argument while she talks absolute rubbish.

Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

[Matt10k]

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…

Standing up for himself makes him look like an a**ehole? So Darnell Standing up for himself against Jen makes himself look like an a**ehole? and Steph standing up for herself against Alex makes herself look like an a**ehole? I dont think so.

At the end of the day if Mario left it there Jen and whoever would keep on having a go at him for no reason. Jen said that out of nowhere the other night. So technically its all her fault...

Big Bad boss? What after gathering the housemates and having a decent discussion unlike Alex who Shouts at everyone who tries to debate with her. At least mario gives people a chance to speak unlike Alex and some others.

I dont get it...... you say that anyone whos being nice to Mikey (like Mario is being) is a Bad person? a hypocrite?
I disagree once again.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Kore
Originally posted by Matt10k
Of course, he is entitled to say anything he wants to Jen and Steph but he is making himself look like an arsehole who holds a grudge.

If only he was mature enough to put it behind him, regardless of ‘who started it’. Someone has to rise above it, otherwise when will it ever end? Now Jen will be annoyed with Mario and some argument will flair up again.

And what makes it even worse is Mario likes to think he’s some sort of big bad boss in the house, who holds meetings and tells everyone to play nice and remember ‘Mikey has a disability’- yet he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks about people he doesn’t like. The guy’s a hypocrite…

Standing up for himself makes him look like an a**ehole? So Darnell Standing up for himself against Jen makes himself look like an a**ehole? and Steph standing up for herself against Alex makes herself look like an a**ehole? I dont think so.

At the end of the day if Mario left it there Jen and whoever would keep on having a go at him for no reason. Jen said that out of nowhere the other night. So technically its all her fault...

Big Bad boss? What after gathering the housemates and having a decent discussion unlike Alex who Shouts at everyone who tries to debate with her. At least mario gives people a chance to speak unlike Alex and some others.

I dont get it...... you say that anyone whos being nice to Mikey (like Mario is being) is a Bad person? a hypocrite?
I disagree once again.

He wasn’t standing up for himself then though, she asked him how she looked and because he can’t let anything die, he was purposely rude. He knew it would cause an argument. So much for his ‘meeting’ about keeping the peace.

And it’s not about being nice to Mikey, he repeatedly tells everyone Mikey has a disability, he even uses Mikey in arguments that have nothing to do with him, like when he had a go at Steph because she snapped at him and he brought Mikey into it.

This also isn't about how bad Alex is. Yes Mario is better than her, but that isn't difficult.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Originally posted by Shaun
Oh hi there. Heard of equality? She also wears makeup, girly clothes, is emotional and compassionate; all feminine qualities. More girly than manly if you ask me.

She looks manly. It's no lie. It doesn't deminish her right to equality. It doesn't mean she isn't emotional or compassionate. It doesn't mean she doesn't where girly clothes or makeup. It means she's manly. She is manly.

Is there a PC in the house? Mario's real name is Shaun, right .....

Well we'll have to agree to disagree then.

And yes it is. :shrug:

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt10k
He wasn’t standing up for himself then though, she asked him how she looked and because he can’t let anything die, he was purposely rude. He knew it would cause an argument. So much for his ‘meeting’ about keeping the peace.

And it’s not about being nice to Mikey, he repeatedly tells everyone Mikey has a disability, he even uses Mikey in arguments that have nothing to do with him, like when he had a go at Steph because she snapped at him and he brought Mikey into it.

This also isn't about how bad Alex is. Yes Mario is better than her, but that isn't difficult.

Of course he was standing up for himself.
You have your opinion on it and i have mine.

Personally i think he looks out for Mikey. Which shows what a genuine guy he is.

Personally i can see him going out on Friday. I hope its his missus though. You must admit that he's more entertaining than Lisa? surely??

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Kore
Of course he was standing up for himself.
You have your opinion on it and i have mine.

Personally i think he looks out for Mikey. Which shows what a genuine guy he is.

Personally i can see him going out on Friday. I hope its his missus though. You must admit that he's more entertaining than Lisa? surely??

I still don't think he needed to stand up for himself then, but let's agree to differ. I mean, really it’s as simple as, you like Mario and I don’t. We both have valid reasons, it just boils down to opinion.

I agree, it’ll probably be him going Friday, though it will be close with Steph. I don’t think there’s much chance of Lisa going. Since it seems it’s mainly between Mario and Steph, I’d prefer Mario to go.

[realgm]

these arguments r so entertaining :) macho macho mannn lol

[Lauren]

I'm certainly not Mario's biggest fan - he's very annoying.

However, your point is just searching for faults.

Steph asked him what he thought, and he thought it was degrading. Obviously Jennifer agreed, and he simply told the truth. He was hardly going to lie if she asked him.

Secondly, thats not hypocrisy. He was hardly going to be lying in a... t-shirt whilst his back was oiled up, was he? It was simply logistical that he was in his boxers.
Thirdly, Lisa is hardly manly looking - and if she is, you must be one hell of a feminine man.
Finally, Lisa wasn't even involved in the argument so surely the hypocrisy is on your head by involving her when it wasn't her argument. Needlessly attacking witnesses to the argument is hardly a way of validating your argument.

[*mazedsalv**]

I couldnt stand him in last nights HLs.

[jamesh]

btw what the hell is a hemroid?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by jamesh
btw what the hell is a hemroid?

Hemorrhoids are inflammation and swelling of veins in the rectum of the anus.

Niiiice.

[Smeggypants]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Kore
Mario only said that because Jen said that he was degrading himself the other night!!!

Maybe, as the older guy, he should have had a level of maturity and rose above it?

All this tit for tat c**p he's getting involved in with Jen and Steph, he's 43 ffs! Would it have been so hard for him to just let it drop?

It won't do him any favours, it'll just make him more likely to get booted on friday...

Don't be so ageist. Maturity has nothing to do with age it's to do with behaviour.

In any case Mario's beef was with the fact that straight laced Jennifer moaned about wearing the bunny outfit to the wedding yet showed double standards by wearing the skimpy outfit for the 'got talent' pastime.

No one was degrading themselves.

[fairymoon]

so if steph and jen wore a bikini then that would be ok then, they only had on hot pants and a vest top nothing wrong in that, mario thinks he the daddy of the house calling meetings and picking on a 19 year old steph was sticking up for her and jen, and there was no need to call her a chicken

[Lauren]

Originally posted by fairymoon
so if steph and jen wore a bikini then that would be ok then, they only had on hot pants and a vest top nothing wrong in that, mario thinks he the daddy of the house calling meetings and picking on a 19 year old steph was sticking up for her and jen, and there was no need to call her a chicken

Why did she ask for his opinion if she couldn't take it, though?

[fairymoon]

jen was only asking he could have been nice about it, they way hes beeing towards steph is not on at all

[GiRTh]

It was an strange scene. Lisa didn't stop massaging Mario even while he was arguing with the other HM's. Their realationship seems a bit strange to me.

[fairymoon]

well she did sell her soul to him lol

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by Lauren
Thirdly, Lisa is hardly manly looking - and if she is, you must be one hell of a feminine man.

Lisa is Manly looking. I'm all man.

Originally posted by Lauren
Finally, Lisa wasn't even involved in the argument so surely the hypocrisy is on your head by involving her when it wasn't her argument. Needlessly attacking witnesses to the argument is hardly a way of validating your argument.

First of all I wasn't stating an argument, I was creating a forum topic. A forum topic doesn't need validating. I was merely making a thread abouth a point which was clearly put over by the BB producers when they kept zooming in on Marios back.

Second of all, that is not hypocrisy, in any way shape or form. It may be a nasty, unpleasant thing to say about a woman, but it is not hypocrisy. If I was a manly woman myself, then that would be hypocrisy, but I'm not.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by bringbackscience

Lisa is Manly looking. I'm all man.

Obviously a subjective point then, because I think she's very feminine.


Originally posted by bringbackscience

First of all I wasn't stating an argument, I was creating a forum topic. A forum topic doesn't need validating.

An argument is a set of declarative sentence, which is what you did. It doesn't necessarily mean shouting and blazing points.

So yes, a forum topic is an argument - because you're setting forth declarative points.

[marctierman]

mario is a dickhead
how dare he make jen cry (:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tijou-x
mario is a ****head
how dare he make jen cry (:

She made herself cry.

I'm a Jennifer fan, but she realised she put herself in a situation she was not comfortable in - and that's why she cried - not cos of mario.

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Kore
Of course he was standing up for himself.
You have your opinion on it and i have mine.

Personally i think he looks out for Mikey. Which shows what a genuine guy he is.

Personally i can see him going out on Friday. I hope its his missus though. You must admit that he's more entertaining than Lisa? surely??

I still don't think he needed to stand up for himself then, but let's agree to differ. I mean, really it’s as simple as, you like Mario and I don’t. We both have valid reasons, it just boils down to opinion.

I agree, it’ll probably be him going Friday, though it will be close with Steph. I don’t think there’s much chance of Lisa going. Since it seems it’s mainly between Mario and Steph, I’d prefer Mario to go.

I can see where your coming from. But, yeh.. we will have to agree to disagree on this one :bigsmile:

[bringbackscience]

After tonights sick fest with Mario and Lisa, you betta see this thread and memba I told ya.