jennifer may be kicked off big brother

[myspace.com/dalefans]

Jennifer Clark may be forced to quit Big Brother after a judge attacked her for missing a court case to appear on the show.

The young mum has been ordered by the court to explain why she did not attend the hearing involving the breakdown of her marriage to estranged husband David, 24.

The judge criticised Jenny's "deceit" for not telling the court on June 4 she was going on the show - one day before BB started.

And instead of attending the second hearing last week Jennifer, 22, who has a two-year-old daughter Maddiline with David, was starting her stint in the TV house.

The judge's ruling means Big Brother bosses have to tell her about what happened in court - and Jenny may pull out of the show to sort out the legal wrangle.

That would scupper her blossoming romance with trainee PE teacher Dale Howard.

Dale, 21, has already told Jenny he fancies her. In the early hours yesterday Dale stroked Jenny's hair and revealed: "I think you've got a nice nose.

Part-time model Jenny told Dale she's worried their intimate chats will cut them off from the other housemates, adding: "We are pathetic. We talk s**t for hours.

But their cosy chats may end sooner than they realise as Jenny will need to either attend court to explain herself or draft a statement in the presence of a lawyer.

Jennifer told BB bosses about the wrangle - but they did not know it could affect her stay in the house.

A show source said: "Jennifer has been really stupid to go into the house with this legal situation hanging over her.

A family friend added: "Jennifer has done nothing wrong criminally. It is a civil matter to do with the breakdown of her marriage.

"It was a bit irresponsible to have gone into the house when she is aware of this situation. She will be devastated when she's told.

"But she was desperate to go on the show and was delighted to win a place. She saw it as a way of getting away from her troubles, as well as trying to make a bit of money for her future.

David had no idea BB-obsessed Jenny was a housemate and only realised when he saw her in the launch show. Since then he has accused Jenny of "abandoning" daughter Maddy.

She is being looked after by Jenny's parents Gary and Janise Smith in Burnhope, Co Durham.

David said: "She knew I didn't want her to go in because Maddy's so small. When I saw her on TV, I felt utter and total shock.

A family friend said: "The relationship is over but it's still hard for David to see her on TV getting attention from Dale.

Jennifer met David five years ago. Their first child Ellie died after being born prematurely, which led to violent rows followed by break-ups and make-ups.

But in April they decided the relationship had broken down for good.

A Big Brother spokesman said last night: "No legal request has been made to us to remove Jenny from the house. It's a private matter that we will not comment on.

[Cheryl-cole-hottie]

i hope she dont go
as she is starting to come out of her shell abit
she is a great hm

[AngRemembered]

another young mum who couldnt care less about her baby, why do they have them???
throw her out of the house, make her go to court then tie her tubes up to stop the usueless tart producing more like unwanted kids.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
another young mum who couldnt care less about her baby, why do they have them???
throw her out of the house, make her go to court then tie her tubes up to stop the usueless tart producing more like unwanted kids.

Be careful how you word things.

You basically implied forceful sterilisation should be obligated. Very offensive to some people.

Anyway, you're hardly a person to question her parenting ability.

[myspace.com/dalefans]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
another young mum who couldnt care less about her baby, why do they have them???
throw her out of the house, make her go to court then tie her tubes up to stop the usueless tart producing more like unwanted kids.

how dare you?! you have no idea what kind of mother she is! just because she went on big brother doesnt make her a bad mother! her child is in safe hands with her grandparents its not like shes dumped her with someone who she wouldnt be safe with!

[CassetteFinger]

O well, hasent really made a impact so wouldent really notice if she was there or not. I can stop getting confused between her and rachel; if she goes.

[GiRTh]

I'd like to see her stay. I have no problems with her parenting skills, I'd do the same if I were in her position. As a HM she's starting to come out of her shell so lets keep her in.

[AngRemembered]

Be careful how you word things.

You basically implied forceful sterilisation should be obligated. Very offensive to some people.

Anyway, you're hardly a person to question her parenting ability. [/quote]


I stand by every word, as a parent in a married relaitionship of many years, who is sick of paying for teenagers to screw themselves silly in order to gain a new home and free cash because the system allows it.
Jennifer, is another example of woman who get preganant for any reason other than to care for a child, even BB is more important, I find that very offensive and would question anyones ability to care for a child who didn't.

[AngRemembered]

how dare you?! you have no idea what kind of mother she is! just because she went on big brother doesnt make her a bad mother! her child is in safe hands with her grandparents its not like shes dumped her with someone who she wouldnt be safe with! [/quote]


Grandparents are baby sitters at best, not long term child minders, if only people considererd the child for once, not some sleaze ball who's only concern is her own 15 mins worth of TV fame.
How dare she? simple because people like you let her, shame on you.

[MR.K!]

i hope its true, she is soo boring

[Lauren]

Originally posted by AngnAndy

Grandparents are baby sitters at best, not long term child minders, if only people considererd the child for once, not some sleaze ball who's only concern is her own 15 mins worth of TV fame.
How dare she? simple because people like you let her, shame on you.

Again, I agree with the sentiments but your wording of things is making me wary of agreeing with your points as a whole.

"Grandparents are baby sitters at best, not long term child minders" - Okay, the sentiment of this point is correct, but you make it sound as if they can't... full stop. What about children whose parents die? Grandparents can be the main caregiver in a single-parent whereby the parent become incapable (disability etc).

However, I agree she shouldn't have gone into BB whilst her child is so young and dependent. The problem is that you deviated your point in order to insinuate all teenage parents are incapable, and all babies born from teenage parents are 'unwanted' and destined to lead a bad life. I have many testaments to show you're wrong by that point.

[AlexBigBrother]

AngnAndy
watch what you say! and drop it!

[AngRemembered]

I have many testaments to show you're wrong by that point. [/quote]


Unfortunately I/we pay for many many more examples of the 'Jennifers' to prove my point right.
Sorry but if people want to have kids for any other reason than to care properly for the child, (and a basic need is for them to be with them, and not on TV should'nt be too difficult)
then they should be prevented from making more unwanted future feral dillinquents.
I accept your point on Grand parents, but I was talking exclusively about them being used in non emergencies, not in emergencies like you suggest. Leaving a child of any age whilst one goes on BB is a problem deserving of critisism and I'd only find it outrageous not to feel strongly about.
The reaction hear to my comments only makes me despair more, however it also makes me understand why we have such a problem with single parenthood when the attitude is as it is, very sad.

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
AngnAndy
watch what you say! and drop it!


No, I won't, thanks

[imagination]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
AngnAndy
watch what you say! and drop it!


No, I won't, thanks
why the **** would she watch what she says? sn say whatever she wants.I hate these backdoor mods. if you wanna regulate the forum,go apply for the position. Otherwise, get a life

[Lauren]

Originally posted by AngnAndy

Unfortunately I/we pay for many many more examples of the 'Jennifers' to prove my point right.
Sorry but if people want to have kids for any other reason than to care properly for the child, (and a basic need is for them to be with them, and not on TV should'nt be too difficult)


Yes but your original point suggested all teenage parents/single mothers would drop their baby at the chance of TV fame - when thats certainly not the case (sorry if I misunderstood your point, however).

Many many single parents/teenage mums have babies for the sole purpose of caring for that child, and to deny them that by forceful sterilisation just because they're 18 and considered 'too young' or 'single' ? Doesn't seem right.

Of course, I still stand by my point that I don't condone Jennifer going in the house and leaving her child. But to apply her situation to all single mothers/young parents would be unfounded.

[ThisIsMarie]

WTF! I Hope she doesn't leave! :sad:

I REALLY like her, it's nice to also have someone classy in BB. :thumbs:



OMFG she had a baby that died! That's so, so sad! :sad:

[Captain.Remy]

I hope it's true, she's boring. One more wannabe out.

[AngRemembered]

Yes but your original point suggested all teenage parents/single mothers would drop their baby at the chance of TV fame - when thats certainly not the case (sorry if I misunderstood your point, however).


Of course, I still stand by my point that I don't condone Jennifer going in the house and leaving her child. But to apply her situation to all single mothers/young parents would be unfounded. [/quote]

"another young mum who couldnt care less about her baby, why do they have them???
throw her out of the house, make her go to court then tie her tubes up to stop the usueless tart producing more like unwanted kids"

Above is my original post, you can see it neither mentions or implies single moms.
It suggests and implies young mothers like her (getting pregnant without having lived long enough to stabalise a relaitionship yet alone be able to care and support a child)
should be steralised, and I stand by those words and for the reasons I've given.
Although I wished woman would consider being in a stable honest relaitionship before getting pregnant, I did'nt say or apply this to Jennifer as she is married, the comment was to those like her based on age and attitude, with the emphasis more on the latter.
However, I do appreciate your sincere and very well argued point, I shall try be more careful when relating to problems that can easily be misunderstood and offensive to some readers:kiss:

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I hope it's true, she's boring. One more wannabe out.


what how ish she a wanabee?

[Lauren]

It was the line "another young mum who couldnt care less about her baby, why do they have them???" that made me think you were tarnishing all young mums with the same brush - it sounded as though young mums (even those whom are very responsible, and care solely for the baby) shouldn't be allowed to have them.

However, after your explanation I understand your point more. It's a case of agreeing to disagree on this one though, I'm afraid. :bigsmile:

[AngRemembered]

why the **** would she watch what she says? sn say whatever she wants.I hate these backdoor mods. if you want to regulate the forum,go apply for the position. Otherwise, get a life [/quote]

exchange the word would for should, tinker a little with the spelling :whistle:
and I could not have put this better myself :hugesmile:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : KKBL
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I hope it's true, she's boring. One more wannabe out.


what how ish she a wanabee?

I can ask the same question about Rebecca.
Come on, Jennifer a part time model, all she wants is a photoshoot in a lads magazine and some pics when she goes out at a nightclub. You can smell it, she's not here for the experience.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I hope it's true, she's boring. One more wannabe out.


what how ish she a wanabee?

They all are.
They 'wanna be' famous :laugh:

(No but seriously, anyone in search of fame and glory for doing nothing are wannabes).

[AngRemembered]

However, after your explanation I understand your point more. It's a case of agreeing to disagree on this one though, I'm afraid. :bigsmile: [/quote]


hey no problem, your commets on this are balanced and fair, and I will take a deep breath before I type on any other controversial subject. Not saying it will work though, so please keep your eyes out for me, I can only learn from people like you, balanced and very fair:thumbs:

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : KKBL
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I hope it's true, she's boring. One more wannabe out.


what how ish she a wanabee?

I can ask the same question about Rebecca.
Come on, Jennifer a part time model, all she wants is a photoshoot in a lads magazine and some pics when she goes out at a nightclub. You can smell it, she's not here for the experience.

Jennifer's never once hinted she's a wannabe.Rebercca has.she jumped into the pool naked and she said she wants to do lads mag's

[xDramatick]

Originally posted by KKBL
Rebercca has.she jumped into the pool naked and she said she wants to do lads mag's

Jumping into a pool naked FOR A DARE doesn't make you a wannabe.
So if someone did it off TV, they'd be a wannabe?
&besides, I'm sure Shell [BB5] mowed the lawn naked, and she was far from being a wannabe.

Also, wanting to do a lads mag doesn't necessarily make you a wannabe.
She may wanna do lads mags, and then fade out. Saying 'I Want to be famous' would make someone a wannabe.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Darenn
Originally posted by KKBL
Rebercca has.she jumped into the pool naked and she said she wants to do lads mag's

Jumping into a pool naked FOR A DARE doesn't make you a wannabe.
So if someone did it off TV, they'd be a wannabe?
&besides, I'm sure Shell [BB5] mowed the lawn naked, and she was far from being a wannabe.

Also, wanting to do a lads mag doesn't necessarily make you a wannabe.
She may want to do lads mags, and then fade out. Saying 'I Want to be famous' would make someone a wannabe.

I couldn't have said it better myself. :thumbs:

[*mazedsalv**]

When will they kick her out?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by KKBL
Rebercca has.she jumped into the pool naked and she said she wants to do lads mag's

Jumping into a pool naked FOR A DARE doesn't make you a wannabe.
So if someone did it off TV, they'd be a wannabe?
&besides, I'm sure Shell [BB5] mowed the lawn naked, and she was far from being a wannabe.

Also, wanting to do a lads mag doesn't necessarily make you a wannabe.
She may want to do lads mags, and then fade out. Saying 'I Want to be famous' would make someone a wannabe.

The very fact they're on the biggest reality TV show of all time, being filmed for 24 hours a day and splashed over newspapers and magazines shows they all want fame. You don't go into BB wanting to fade into obscurity afterwards.
They're all wannabes for even being on there.

[InTheFade]

who gives a **** if she's 'entertaining' or whatever? she's selfish to leave her kid, i don't care what anyone says.

[*mazedsalv**]

Maybe it could boost a bit of ratings :bigsmile:

[marctierman]

AngnAndy
you're just so wrong on so many levels (:
bottom line (:
you don't know her
i'm pretty sure she wanted her baby?
i think she said that in her audition
she was married
if you read the post in the first place you'd see that
go care for your own kids
instead of wasting your time on a big brother forum ^o)

[Lauren]

Originally posted by marctierman
AngnAndy
you're just so wrong on so many levels (:
bottom line (:
you don't know her
i'm pretty sure she wanted her baby?
i think she said that in her audition
she was married
if you read the post in the first place you'd see that
go care for your own kids
instead of wasting your time on a big brother forum ^o)

What a horribly offensive post. Questioning another members parenting ability...

The HM's put themselves in the house to be in the public eye, but questioning a member on a forums parenting is too far, really.

Secondly, she is married but separated - and therefore IS a single mother.

She may have wanted her baby, but she didn't want it to look after - hence why she is in the BB house and not at home.
And before you say - I do know her.

[marctierman]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by marctierman
AngnAndy
you're just so wrong on so many levels (:
bottom line (:
you don't know her
i'm pretty sure she wanted her baby?
i think she said that in her audition
she was married
if you read the post in the first place you'd see that
go care for your own kids
instead of wasting your time on a big brother forum ^o)

What a horribly offensive post. Questioning another members parenting ability...

The HM's put themselves in the house to be in the public eye, but questioning a member on a forums parenting is too far, really.

Secondly, she is married but separated - and therefore IS a single mother.

She may have wanted her baby, but she didn't want it to look after - hence why she is in the BB house and not at home.
And before you say - I do know her.
i wasn't questioning there ability
i don't know them either
but someone who judges someone should be open to being judged themselves
i think that's fair.

and how do you know her?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by marctierman

i wasn't questioning there ability
i don't know them either
but someone who judges someone should be open to being judged themselves
i think that's fair.

and how do you know her?

It's not fair when the rules of the forum stipulate not to insult members.

Also; I live in the street next to her.

[marctierman]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by marctierman

i wasn't questioning there ability
i don't know them either
but someone who judges someone should be open to being judged themselves
i think that's fair.

and how do you know her?

It's not fair when the rules of the forum stipulate not to insult members.

Also; I live in the street next to her.
i didn't insult any members ^o)
i think the members post was more insulting
by stereotyping single mothers like that


oh wow that's cool (:
she lives in durham then?

[AngRemembered]

if you read the post in the first place you'd see that
go care for your own kids
instead of wasting your time on a big brother forum ^o) [/quote]


You obviously don't know me as I actually did care for my kids and still do despite them both being older than Jennifer.
I think that gives me the right to do with my time as I see fit, I for one have earnt it.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by marctierman

oh wow that's cool (:
she lives in durham then?

Chester-Le-Street, which is in County Durham :bigsmile:

[Sunny_01]

I think it would be sad if she were to have to leave BB because of this, however I think she could have handled things in the lead up to her entry to the house a little better.

I dont think I could have left such a young child for so long but we are all different and as long as she is confident that her child is in a loving, nurturing environment then who are we to really judge her.

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by marctierman
AngnAndy
you're just so wrong on so many levels (:
bottom line (:
you don't know her



i like lisa i think she's fairly harmless
mario on the other hand is an idiot


The above is your quote about another HM, please can you tell me how you know Mario so well, or Lisa for that matter? have you met him/her? do you even know their real names?
or are you like me commenting an oppinion on what we percieve to be a HM's charector, which after all is the point of this forum amongst other things.

[marctierman]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
Originally posted by marctierman
AngnAndy
you're just so wrong on so many levels (:
bottom line (:
you don't know her



i like lisa i think she's fairly harmless
mario on the other hand is an idiot


The above is your quote about another HM, please can you tell me how you know Mario so well, or Lisa for that matter? have you met him/her? do you even know their real names?
or are you like me commenting an oppinion on what we percieve to be a HM's charector, which after all is the point of this forum amongst other things.

jeeez stalker much.
that's on a completely different level
you're saying that jennifer is a bad parent
i'm saying that from what i've seen from big brother, mario is an idiot and lisa is fairly harmless


btw
in response to your earlier comment about having earnt your free time
you must have worked extremely hard to earn enough spare time to allow some to be filled by arguing with a 15 year old over the internet

[AngRemembered]

you must have worked extremely hard to earn enough spare time to allow some to be filled by arguing with a 15 year old over the internet [/quote]

At least you got that part completely right, and don't get so touchy I'm not arguing with you just replying to your comments about me, surely even a little boy like you will give someone that respect, or is that expecting way to much.

[marctierman]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
you must have worked extremely hard to earn enough spare time to allow some to be filled by arguing with a 15 year old over the internet

At least you got that part completely right, and don't get so touchy I'm not arguing with you just replying to your comments about me, surely even a little boy like you will give someone that respect, or is that expecting way to much. [/quote]
that is expecting way too* much
wow, little boy can use grammar

[AngRemembered]

that is expecting way too* much
wow, little boy can use grammar [/quote]

LOL!!!!! When you next turn up for class give your english teacher a slap from me.

[marctierman]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
that is expecting way too* much
wow, little boy can use grammar

LOL!!!!! When you next turn up for class give your english teacher a slap from me. [/quote]

why.. :/
for teaching me..?
i'm confused lol

[AngRemembered]

why.. :/
for teaching me..?
i'm confused lol [/quote]

No, just because I don't like teachers :rolleyes:
Oh and please don't be confused you'll end up like Mario, and by the time you get to his age it may be an offence by law that could see you locked up rather than get on BB.
Not that I know him,(thankgod) just I think like you, he's an idiot..lol

[Shaun]

Originally posted by marctierman

btw
in response to your earlier comment about having earnt your free time
you must have worked extremely hard to earn enough spare time to allow some to be filled by arguing with a 15 year old over the internet

What a stupid, ageist comment.

Does the internet belong to 15 year olds? No. Angnandy (not sure how to spell/when to capitalise letters in your username, sorry!) has as much right to post here as you do, and if you think it's sad for them to do that, you're equally as sad to be arguing back, and I'm equally 'sad' to be pointing this out.

The fact of the matter is that I enjoy being on a forum, so does Angngnandnmnandny :tongue:, so do you.

[AngRemembered]

The fact of the matter is that I enjoy being on a forum, so does Angngnandnmnandny :tongue:, so do you. [/quote]

LMAO!!!! Oh Shaun honey I don't know who you are but you have made me laugh for real, the names Ang btw, Andy is my poor suffering husband, and you my friend are potentially the 'other' man in my life, for making me laff so loud.

Thanks!!!

[marctierman]

i don't think it's sad that she's on here
i think it's sad that she's on here calling a 15 year old an idiot

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by marctierman
i don't think it's sad that she's on here
i think it's sad that she's on here calling a 15 year old an idiot


dear lord sweety you really need to read better I did'nt call you an idiot, read what I said carefully I said
"I think like you, he's (mario) is an idiot....when the penny has finally dropped please come back and say sorry or I'll tut really loud at you...lol

[marctierman]

OH OKAY sorry lmao
you can see where i got the wrong idea from lol

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by marctierman
OH OKAY sorry lmao
you can see where i got the wrong idea from lol


yes I can, and I knew you'd come back as your a real nice lad I can tell :thumbs::kiss:

[marctierman]

aha
yer sorry,
i am really (:

[geoking66]

Well she couldn't have told the court; she's contractually obligated to remain silent. That contract supercedes any sort of family court issue from what I know. Jennifer can go to court after it's over, end of.

[Sarahh]

No She Cannot Go Shes One Of My FAvs
:(

[bigbr0ther]

This rumor has been appearing since the very start of the series and still no hint of her removal has come about so I'm going to have to declare it a hoax.