Alex Transcription - What she said that got her booted out. In Full

[bringbackscience]

Taken from the BBC

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Alexandra De-Gale and fellow housemate Darnell Swallow were in the living room discussing the fact that she had been nominated for eviction.

The remarks were not screened via the 'as live' streaming on E4 but were reported to senior production staff.

Channel 4 has now released a transcript of extracts of the conversation that led to Alexandra being removed from the show.

The conversation is published below and contains strong language.

TUESDAY 17 JUNE

2217BST

Darnell: Sylvia is keeping it real, said if it had been me, I'd have thrown water over somebody.

Alex: I'm not throwing water at anyone. It's bigger than that. This is three months, do you know what I mean? Three months in a house.

Everyone's got to come outside the house. Personal offence is never forgotten, do you know what I mean? We're just inside the house.

I've got a very, very, very, very, very strong team outside the house, strong, so solid, strong. I look forward to whatever the result.

If I get out first, I get out, make the plans. Everyone's got to come out after that. Every single one of you come out afterwards, remember I told you. Like I say, my team is strong, so strong.

2220BST

Alex: I just can't wait to see my mans [sic] and them and see what their plans are, who they got...I'm not talking about those mans, I'm talking about my gangster friends.

Darnell: Collabos.

Alex: They got some instructions to follow out.

2230BST

Darnell: That's what I mean...I've never seen anything like this, the people in here aren't real. It's like that movie poop, like movie people in here.

Alex: If you go, you get to make all the plans that you wanna make. When you're in here you can't do certain things. In my life I'm used to doing certain things.

You know people mickey me off and I do something, like. I can't actually do that while I'm here. But like I say, I get to go out, see everyone's friends, I get to see their family. I get to do the poop that I wanna do. Pow, pow, pow."

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"Pow, pow, pow" so she was threatening to have someone shot?

Oh man, I wouldn't want to work in any of the restaurants she eats at.

"Hello Madame, is everything ok with your meal"

"Madame? Don't Madame me. My name is Alex. Remember I told ya"

"I do apologise, was everything ok with your meal Alex?"

"My chips were burnt. You are disrespec'ing me burning my chips"

*shoots waiter*

"Know yourself"


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[niamhy22]

:laugh:

[dennissabre]

How long before this becomes a Gangster Rap?:dance: :laugh:

[voddie]

i feel sorry for her daughter, imagine having to live with that as mother!! :laugh:

[mizzy25]

wot a load of crap i thought it was gonna b somat exciting

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by mizzy25
wot a load of c**p i thought it was going to b somat exciting Exactly. Its something and nothing but I suppose she had to go.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by mizzy25
wot a load of c**p i thought it was going to b somat exciting Exactly. Its something and nothing but I suppose she had to go.

I don't think threatening to get someone on the outside is "Something and nothing." Especially when the boyfriend of the person doing the threatening has been charged with murder and attempted murder.

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.2326459.0.big_brother_stars_boyfriend_ on_murder_charge.php

[GiRTh]

So are you saying that clearly shows she was planning blood revenge? Didn't Victor in BB5 talk like that at times and was it taken seriously? Are we saying that because Alex allegedly has a boyfriend who is an accused murderer then she MUST be guilty? The statements she made were ambiguous at best and dont prove anything. Therefore something and nothing.

[thisisme2008]

Sorry, but to me:

"I get to go out, see everyone's friends, I get to see their family. I get to do the poop that I want to do. Pow, pow, pow."

that seems pretty threatening. I think she is trying to say in a very roundabout way that she will threaten people's families...?

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by mizzy25
wot a load of c**p i thought it was going to b somat exciting













erm i'd say thats pretty exciting (not that i'm saying its good what she said AT ALL) but you cant really get more serious than someone basically threatening to have housemates seen off..

[andyman]

alex is a vile twisted person. Ask her school's, former work etc etc. Vile evil person outside the house and the people she knows.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by GiRTh
So are you saying that clearly shows she was planning blood revenge? Didn't Victor in BB5 talk like that at times and was it taken seriously? Are we saying that because Alex allegedly has a boyfriend who is an accused murderer then she MUST be guilty? The statements she made were ambiguous at best and dont prove anything. Therefore something and nothing.

She threatened in a round about way to get someone on the outside. No that doesn't mean she is plotting blood revenge, but it means she has threatened someones safety which is bad enough, whether she acted on the threat or not.

Her boyfriend being charged with murder doesn't make her quilty of anything. But yes she is guilty of threatening to harm others on the outside, she was caught on camera saying it. I'm more likely to take a threat more seriously it someones boyfriend has been accused of murder than if their boyfriend is a 'normal' citizen or hasn't been accused of anything. It's common sense.

Threatening someone is bad enough whether or not the threat is carried out.

I don't get what you mean that the statement "doesn't prove anything." It proves that she has threatened others safety and it proves that she even suggested gun crime with the "pow, pow, pow." In the current climate, that is a a dangerous thing to do.

[andyman]

bb was thinking about the other housemates. And i feel she was ok first week but she got worse like a dark cloud was always around her. The woman is not a nice person and im sure we met people like that... I dont want to watch people like her when there are enough sick twisted chavs on the street. The other housemates did hear what she said and felt it was against the major rules and crossed the line, bb felt the same, she had plenty of warning but sick twisted people like that just cant help it, they are who they are and will never change. Plus it was her time to go, she wasnt having fun and was bringing the house down and sucking all the good vibes in the house with her snappy temper and warped mind, it went past the charlie stage and into a real bully chav stage that should have never been in the house at all. Stronger background checks are needed.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bringbackscienceShe threatened in a round about way to get someone on the outside. No that doesn't mean she is plotting blood revenge, but it means she has threatened someones safety which is bad enough, whether she acted on the threat or not.

Her boyfriend being charged with murder doesn't make her quilty of anything. But yes she is guilty of threatening to harm others on the outside, she was caught on camera saying it. I'm more likely to take a threat more seriously it someones boyfriend has been accused of murder than if their boyfriend is a 'normal' citizen or hasn't been accused of anything. It's common sense.

Threatening someone is bad enough whether or not the threat is carried out.

I don't get what you mean that the statement "doesn't prove anything." It proves that she has threatened others safety and it proves that she even suggested gun crime with the "pow, pow, pow." In the current climate, that is a a dangerous thing to do. Leslie threatened Sam in BB6. Did she make good on the thread? Did Leslie get kicked out? The answer to both questions is no. So why is this any different?

The fact that Alex's boyfriend is an accused murderer means nothing. He has not been convicted of anything.

I feel it was right to throw her out only because - like Emily last year - The producers must make a stand against such behaviour, but I still think Alex is not truly guilty of anything.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by andyman
bb was thinking about the other housemates. And i feel she was ok first week but she got worse like a dark cloud was always around her. The woman is not a nice person and Im sure we met people like that... I dont want to watch people like her when there are enough sick twisted chavs on the street. The other housemates did hear what she said and felt it was against the major rules and crossed the line, bb felt the same, she had plenty of warning but sick twisted people like that just cant help it, they are who they are and will never change. Plus it was her time to go, she wasnt having fun and was bringing the house down and sucking all the good vibes in the house with her snappy temper and warped mind, it went past the charlie stage and into a real bully chav stage that should have never been in the house at all. Stronger background checks are needed.

I think BB know exactly who they put in the house!

[Wellsita]

I did hear Alex saying to Dennis she likes to intimidate people! That was just before she went on again with Mo about him dressing in women's clothes, saying he was small and a disgrace! That, on its own, should have been good reason enough to throw her out! She received a second warning from BB! So, if she was saying things that sounded like she was threatenng people, that would have been the third and final warning, so she got the boot! Fair and square!

[GhettoSuperstar]

I don't get it..:laugh:

[antd]

she was joking

[SexualHeroics]

She obviously had to go. It's clear what she's doing and it's unacceptable.

[KingRock]

Edited & Warning issued. Racist comments will not be tolerated.

[letmein]

I'd like to put a foot in her ass.

What a horrible, HORRIBLE, woman!

[letmein]

Originally posted by GiRTh
So are you saying that clearly shows she was planning blood revenge? Didn't Victor in BB5 talk like that at times and was it taken seriously? Are we saying that because Alex allegedly has a boyfriend who is an accused murderer then she MUST be guilty? The statements she made were ambiguous at best and dont prove anything. Therefore something and nothing.

This is a threat. This is the type of **** you get arrested for. I don't think you actually understand. She's a nutcase, and knows tons of criminals. She's dangerous.

[letmein]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by bringbackscienceShe threatened in a round about way to get someone on the outside. No that doesn't mean she is plotting blood revenge, but it means she has threatened someones safety which is bad enough, whether she acted on the threat or not.

Her boyfriend being charged with murder doesn't make her quilty of anything. But yes she is guilty of threatening to harm others on the outside, she was caught on camera saying it. I'm more likely to take a threat more seriously it someones boyfriend has been accused of murder than if their boyfriend is a 'normal' citizen or hasn't been accused of anything. It's common sense.

Threatening someone is bad enough whether or not the threat is carried out.

I don't get what you mean that the statement "doesn't prove anything." It proves that she has threatened others safety and it proves that she even suggested gun crime with the "pow, pow, pow." In the current climate, that is a a dangerous thing to do. Leslie threatened Sam in BB6. Did she make good on the thread? Did Leslie get kicked out? The answer to both questions is no. So why is this any different?

The fact that Alex's boyfriend is an accused murderer means nothing. He has not been convicted of anything.

I feel it was right to throw her out only because - like Emily last year - The producers must make a stand against such behaviour, but I still think Alex is not truly guilty of anything.

We must be living on different planets.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by letmein
This is a threat. This is the type of **** you get arrested for. I don't think you actually understand. She's a nutcase, and knows tons of criminals. She's dangerous. Does that mean that she's acriminal too?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by letmein
We must be living on different planets. What exactly is she guilty of?

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by letmein
We must be living on different planets. What exactly is she guilty of?

She threatened to hurt or get someone to hurt, fellow housemates and/or thier families. If somebody threatens somebody, then this can be considered a criminal offence.

[Matt10k]

Alex already has a criminal record for threatening to have her former best friends family killed. Apparently, she thought her former friends boyfriend was 'too geeky' for her and that brought disrespect to her.

Why the hell would bb put someone like that in the house in the first place?! Maybe that's what needs to be asked here...

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by letmein
We must be living on different planets. What exactly is she guilty of?

She threatened to hurt or get someone to hurt, fellow housemates and/or thier families. If somebody threatens somebody, then this can be considered a criminal offence.
Did she? And you're abolsutely one-hundred percent sure given those transcripts?

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by bringbackscience
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by letmein
We must be living on different planets. What exactly is she guilty of?

She threatened to hurt or get someone to hurt, fellow housemates and/or thier families. If somebody threatens somebody, then this can be considered a criminal offence.
Did she? And you're abolsutely one-hundred percent sure given those transcripts?

Yes.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Yes. So what exactly was she planning? And please go into details highlighting bits of the transcript that prove your point.

[bringbackscience]

TUESDAY 17 JUNE

2217BST

Darnell: Sylvia is keeping it real, said if it had been me, I'd have thrown water over somebody.

Alex: I'm not throwing water at anyone. It's bigger than that. This is three months, do you know what I mean? Three months in a house.

Everyone's got to come outside the house. Personal offence is never forgotten, do you know what I mean? We're just inside the house.

I've got a very, very, very, very, very strong team outside the house, strong, so solid, strong. I look forward to whatever the result.

If I get out first, I get out, make the plans. Everyone's got to come out after that. Every single one of you come out afterwards, remember I told you. Like I say, my team is strong, so strong.

2220BST

Alex: I just can't wait to see my mans [sic] and them and see what their plans are, who they got...I'm not talking about those mans, I'm talking about my gangster friends.

Darnell: Collabos.

Alex: They got some instructions to follow out.

2230BST

Darnell: That's what I mean...I've never seen anything like this, the people in here aren't real. It's like that movie poop, like movie people in here.

Alex: If you go, you get to make all the plans that you want to make. When you're in here you can't do certain things. In my life I'm used to doing certain things.

You know people mickey me off and I do something, like. I can't actually do that while I'm here. But like I say, I get to go out, see everyone's friends, I get to see their family. I get to do the poop that I want to do. Pow, pow, pow."

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A threat doesn't have to be specific, in the context of the conversation these are threats. Especially the last paragraph, it can't be defended.

[GiRTh]

So what was the plan?

[bringbackscience]

I don't know the plan, never said I did. I said she has threatened the housemates and their families and I highlighted where in the transcript she did this. Like I said a threat doesn't have to be specific.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
I don't know the plan, never said I did. I said she has threatened the housemates and their families and I highlighted where in the transcrpit she did this. Like I said a threat doesn't have to be specific. But you said you were convinced. If you are so certain then you should be able to tell me exactly what the plan was. All I see is alot of tough talk. Dont get me wrong, it was right to get rid of her but I dont buy all these people who are sure she was threatening the other HM's and are so convinced that she was going to make good on her threat. I'm NOT convinced.

[Matt10k]

They warned her they took aggressive behaviour seriously several times and told her it would not be tolerated, yet she seemed to not listen to the warnings at all and would do the same again.

Her behaviour was obviously threatening enough for other housemates to complain. BB couldn't be seen to be doing nothing about it after they’d warned her several times and she had ignored them. Even Charley heeded the warnings better than Alex and at least calmed down for a day or two.

I think they made the right decision this time. If you keep breaking the rules and don't listen to the warnings- you're out, simple as...

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by GiRTh
If you are so certain then you should be able to tell me exactly what the plan was.

What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by bringbackscience
I don't know the plan, never said I did. I said she has threatened the housemates and their families and I highlighted where in the transcrpit she did this. Like I said a threat doesn't have to be specific. But you said you were convinced. If you are so certain then you should be able to tell me exactly what the plan was. All I see is alot of tough talk. Dont get me wrong, it was right to get rid of her but I dont buy all these people who are sure she was threatening the other HM's and are so convinced that she was going to make good on her threat. I'm NOT convinced.

I am convinced that she was threatening people, not that I knew her plan. I never siad I was sure she was going to make good of her threat either. The issue is she threatened people, whether she acts on the threat or not.

I am convinced she was making a threat.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL LOL

Surely you dont think it's the same thing. To say you're going to murder someone is a clear statement of intent. I cant point to such a statement in those transcripts.

[Matt10k]

It's not the point anyway. She didn't listen to any of the warnings so she deserves to be booted. BB gave her a chance to turn it round and she blew it.

I don't think anyone can doubt that she was aggressive and intimidating to other housemates- whether the call to arms was genuine or not is irrelevant really- it was just the final straw in a long list of unacceptable behaviour Alex has been warned for previously...

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL LOL

Surely you dont think it's the same thing. To say you're going to murder someone is a clear statement of intent. I cant point to such a statement in those transcripts.

Well bringbackscience did it for you. Look at the bold writing.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL LOL

Surely you dont think it's the same thing. To say you're going to murder someone is a clear statement of intent. I cant point to such a statement in those transcripts.

Well bringbackscience did it for you. Look at the bold writing. Are those CLEAR statements. She seems to be doing a lot of bragging about how bad the people she knows are.

Bottom line is, if there were clear statements then we wouldn't be having this discussion. The transcript is enough to get her thrown out but it does not stand up to too much scrutiny

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL LOL

Surely you dont think it's the same thing. To say you're going to murder someone is a clear statement of intent. I cant point to such a statement in those transcripts.

Well bringbackscience did it for you. Look at the bold writing. Are those CLEAR statements.

Clear statements of intent. Absolutely.

"They got some instructions to follow out."

"Pow, pow, pow" (street slang for shooting someone)

etc Say no more.

[Matt10k]

I can see what both sides are saying. GiRTh is right that there is no clear threat there. A 'plan' could mean anything. I don't think it'd stand up in court for example. She could just say she meant a team of guys armed with super soakers to wet Mohamed on his eviction! lol.

We have no proof that she meant anything else by it. On the other hand, it could be interpreted as aggressive behaviour- something Alex has been warned for already. That, coupled with the fact she didn't heed any off the warnings and other housemates complained means BB had no choice but to boot her.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What if she'd said, I'm going to kill you, to Mohammed. Would you say ahhh but you don't know what the plan is so it's not a threat? LOL LOL

Surely you dont think it's the same thing. To say you're going to murder someone is a clear statement of intent. I cant point to such a statement in those transcripts.

Well bringbackscience did it for you. Look at the bold writing. Are those CLEAR statements. She seems to be doing a lot of bragging about how bad the people she knows are.

Bottom line is, if there were clear statements then we wouldn't be having this discussion. The transcript is enough to get her thrown out but it does not stand up to too much scrutiny

Clear statements of intent. Absolutely. We go back to - If they're CLEAR then tell me what she was planning? We can go all night if you want but lets face it those statements are not enough to be sure of her intentions..

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
I can see what both sides are saying. GiRTh is right that there is no clear threat there. A 'plan' could mean anything. I don't think it'd stand up in court for example. She could just say she meant a team of guys armed with super soakers to wet Mohamed on his eviction! lol.

We have no proof that she meant anything else by it. On the other hand, it could be interpreted as aggressive behaviour- something Alex has been warned for already. That, coupled with the fact she didn't heed any off the warnings and other housemates complained means BB had no choice but to boot her. Exactly. Dont get me wrong it was absolutely the right decision to get rid of her but some seem convinced she was planning revenge on her HM's. There is no clear plan in those statements. I agree that she needs to be questioned by the police on exactly what she was talking about but some act like we should lock her up and throw away the key. Theres not enough for that

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by Matt10k
I can see what both sides are saying. GiRTh is right that there is no clear threat there. A 'plan' could mean anything. I don't think it'd stand up in court for example. She could just say she meant a team of guys armed with super soakers to wet Mohamed on his eviction! lol.

Check the urban dictionary. 'Pow' does not mean wetting someone with super soakers.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Matt10k
I can see what both sides are saying. GiRTh is right that there is no clear threat there. A 'plan' could mean anything. I don't think it'd stand up in court for example. She could just say she meant a team of guys armed with super soakers to wet Mohamed on his eviction! lol.

Check the urban dictionary. 'Pow' does not mean wetting someone with super soakers. I wondered when someone was going to pick up on that. So what does the word pow mean from the urban dictionary?

You're reaching for something that might be there if you look hard enough.

[Matt10k]

"Pow" is too vague, it could mean anything. It wasn't even linked to anything else, she just said it randomly after she'd said everything else.

I don't think the police care what urban dictionary says to be honest! Isn't that just that site where anyone can make up their own meanings for words?! :bigsmile:

Of course, BB had the right to remove her for the other reasons (aggressive behaviour/ repeated rule breaks) and I think they made the right choice.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
"Pow" is too vague, it could mean anything. It wasn't even linked to anything else, she just said it randomly after she'd said everything else.

I don't think the police care what urban dictionary says to be honest! Isn't that just that site where anyone can make up their own meanings for words?! :bigsmile:

Of course, BB had the right to remove her for the other reasons (aggressive behaviour/ repeated rule breaks) and I think they made the right choice.
Agreed Matt.:thumbs:

They made the right choice to get rid of her, no one is denying that, but more than that I'm not sure.

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by GiRTh
You're reaching for something that might be there if you look hard enough.

It was pretty obvious to me on first reading. Seems like it takes more effort to not see it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
You're reaching for something that might be there if you look hard enough.

It was pretty obvious to me on first reading. Seems like it takes more effort to not see it. It looked like a lot of tough talking to me. We disagree on that. There's nothing wrong with that.:thumbs:

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
You're reaching for something that might be there if you look hard enough.

It was pretty obvious to me on first reading. Seems like it takes more effort to not see it.

I'm not sure what you are saying. We agree that she should have been booted but disagree on the reasons? Is that right?

Or is it that you want her thrown in jail for what is at best, a very vague threat that she could easily just tell police was perfectly innocent and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by Matt10k is it that you want her thrown in jail for what is at best, a very vague threat that she could easily just tell police was perfectly innocent and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?

What are you on about, when did anyone let alone me say she should be thrown in jail? We're talking about her threatening people. I pointed out the threats she made which the two of you strangely denied existed, even though it was there in the article.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
What are you on about, when did anyone let alone me say she should be thrown in jail? We're talking about her threatening people. I pointed out the threats she made which the two of you strangely denied existed, even though it was there in the article. We all agree that she should have been thrown out but we disagree on how seriously we must take her alleged threats. If you're so certain of these threats then why can you not tell me more.

I dont see the point in going round and round. Why not agree to disagree.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Matt10k is it that you want her thrown in jail for what is at best, a very vague threat that she could easily just tell police was perfectly innocent and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?

What are you on about, when did anyone let alone me say she should be thrown in jail? We're talking about her threatening people. I pointed out the threats she made which the two of you denied existed.

I was just trying to understand your point. Some people have said she should be arrested for her comments. I didn't say you, I was just wondering where you stood on it.

I was making the point that whether she was making threats to murder people or not is subject to opinion- in the eyes of the law, it's unlikely she could get in trouble for what she said in there.

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by GiRTh
If you're so certain of these threats then why can you not tell me more.


LOL How much do you want to know? The make of the guns she intends to use/have used? Whether she'll be wearing her 2pac doo-rag when she's pulling the trigger?!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by GiRTh
If you're so certain of these threats then why can you not tell me more.


LOL How much do you want to know? The make of the guns she intends to have used? Whether she'll be wearing her 2pac doo-rag when she's pulling the trigger?! What guns? I didn't see any mention of guns. Why the hip-hop references?

So you're not going to agree to disagree?

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Matt10k is it that you want her thrown in jail for what is at best, a very vague threat that she could easily just tell police was perfectly innocent and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?

What are you on about, when did anyone let alone me say she should be thrown in jail? We're talking about her threatening people. I pointed out the threats she made which the two of you denied existed.

I was just trying to understand your point. Some people have said she should be arrested for her comments. I didn't say you, I was just wondering where you stood on it.

I was making the point that whether she was making threats to murder people or not is subject to opinion- in the eyes of the law, it's unlikely she could get in trouble for what she said in there.

I'm not too sure what the law will say on the matter. All I know is she's made threats and she had to be thrown out.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics

I'm not too sure what the law will say on the matter. All I know is she's made threats and she had to be thrown out. Alledgedly made threats. You cant prove it so I think its not cut in stone.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
I'm not too sure what the law will say on the matter. All I know is she's made threats and she had to be thrown out.

As GiRTh says then, it's just opinion. We could spend all day arguing about what she meant by it but at the end of the day, none of us know/ can prove for sure what she meant by it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
I'm not too sure what the law will say on the matter. All I know is she's made threats and she had to be thrown out.

As GiRTh says then, it's just opinion. We could spend all day arguing about what she meant by it but at the end of the day, none of us know for sure what she meant. Exactly.:thumbs:

Personally, knowing her personality, I think her comments were meant as a threat but, going by the transcript there is no where near enough for any one to say with any amount of certainty, she was indeed threatening the other HM's. Thats a matter for the police.

[SexualHeroics]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
I'm not too sure what the law will say on the matter. All I know is she's made threats and she had to be thrown out.

As GiRTh says then, it's just opinion. We could spend all day arguing about what she meant by it but at the end of the day, none of us know/ can prove for sure what she meant by it.

I think you have to bury your head firmly in the sand to not understand what she meant by her comments. Although I will agree it may not be enough to stand up in a courtroom, which isn't saying much. Common sense and the law are two different things.

[MontanaFX]

Originally posted by voddie
i feel sorry for her daughter, imagine having to live with that as mother!! :laugh: I wouldnt say stuff like that man. You could get shot. Member I ....

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by SexualHeroics
I think you have to bury your head firmly in the sand to not understand what she meant by her comments. Although I will agree it may not be enough to stand up in a courtroom, which isn't saying much. Common sense and the law are two different things. Agreed.:thumbs:

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by bringbackscienceShe threatened in a round about way to get someone on the outside. No that doesn't mean she is plotting blood revenge, but it means she has threatened someones safety which is bad enough, whether she acted on the threat or not.

Her boyfriend being charged with murder doesn't make her quilty of anything. But yes she is guilty of threatening to harm others on the outside, she was caught on camera saying it. I'm more likely to take a threat more seriously it someones boyfriend has been accused of murder than if their boyfriend is a 'normal' citizen or hasn't been accused of anything. It's common sense.

Threatening someone is bad enough whether or not the threat is carried out.

I don't get what you mean that the statement "doesn't prove anything." It proves that she has threatened others safety and it proves that she even suggested gun crime with the "pow, pow, pow." In the current climate, that is a a dangerous thing to do. Leslie threatened Sam in BB6. Did she make good on the thread? Did Leslie get kicked out? The answer to both questions is no. So why is this any different?

The fact that Alex's boyfriend is an accused murderer means nothing. He has not been convicted of anything.

I feel it was right to throw her out only because - like Emily last year - The producers must make a stand against such behaviour, but I still think Alex is not truly guilty of anything.
this is different due to BB getting into the Sh*t over the years, they are watching their backs now, and I don't blame them, the comments, MAY not have been TRUTHFUL but, the way she acts, make me think that she is used to having her "mans" around when she disagrees with something...(and let's face it...the woman disagrees with air)

but going solely on those comments, BB had to do something, and kicking her out before anything else was said is better for everyone concerned, especially her...she's already had her car scraped (if that was her car of course...could have just been false news)

but I think most of us are glad she's gone...no more flying off the handle about nothing...too much of the HL show was her having a hissy fit...which I just can't stand, I want to see everyone.

dOc

[WARING]

I'm surprised they let her into the house in the first place, don't they screen these people and make sure they're not loonies?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
this is different due to BB getting into the Sh*t over the years, they are watching their backs now, and I don't blame them, the comments, MAY not have been TRUTHFUL but, the way she acts, make me think that she is used to having her "mans" around when she disagrees with something...(and let's face it...the woman disagrees with air)

but going solely on those comments, BB had to do something, and kicking her out before anything else was said is better for everyone concerned, especially her...she's already had her car scraped (if that was her car of course...could have just been false news)

but I think most of us are glad she's gone...no more flying off the handle about nothing...too much of the HL show was her having a hissy fit...which I just can't stand, I want to see everyone.

dOc Absolutely. It had to be done.:thumbs: