Gangsters Vs B*tches Double Standards Again?

[dennissabre]

Can anyone please tell me why one HM was ripped to pieces for using gangster talk yet another HM regularly uses the term Bitches when referring to women and this isn't an issue?

I accept it is an americanism but why should that make it any more acceptable? :puzzled:

[easttt]

who you talking about darnel...

[MrGaryy]

I know it annoys me so much. But I have to pity him because he is obviously so incompetent that he can't tell the difference between American slang and British insults.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Gazbo
I know it annoys me so much. But I have to pity him because he is obviously so incompetent that he can't tell the difference between American slang and British insults.

I agree :thumbs: but it is up to BB to tell him that.
Just imagine if it were the other way round?
There would be uproar! :mad:

[swaredown]

No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by easttt
who you talking about darnel...
Haven't used names as i want people to see this topic before it gets moved :hugesmile:

[Dreary]

:hugesmile:

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by swaredown
No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.

I'm not getting this wrong and obviously i'm well aware of the threatening behaviour which was totally unacceptable.

My point is that in this Country the term B*tch is seen as a derogatory and offensive term used to discribe women
and yet appears to be acceptable in the house.

I think this is total double standards and that BB should make him aware of the English definition.

That's all i meant

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Dreary
:hugesmile:

Thank's for your usual well thought out and well balanced contribution to this thread. Most invaluable and insightful :rolleyes:

[PrimaryObjective]

I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.

Or is everyone tiptoeing around him? :pat:

[swaredown]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by swaredown
No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.

I'm not getting this wrong and obviously i'm well aware of the threatening behaviour which was totally unacceptable.

My point is that in this Country the term B*tch is seen as a derogatory and offensive term used to discribe women
and yet appears to be acceptable in the house.

I think this is total double standards and that BB should make him aware of the English definition.

That's all i meant

Yeah, I totally agree, but think about how many people on big brother have called each other a bitch, it's just somthing people say, yes it is offensive, but so are things that lots of other house mates have said......what I'm saying is they can't chuck someone out for calling someone bitch

[PrimaryObjective]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.

Or is everyone tiptoeing around him? :pat:

I'd say no. I don't think people will tiptoe around him. He's quite brash, so I think people would tend to say to him if he was being offensive.

The other thing is who he calls 'bitches'. If he uses it as a general term for women, it's slightly less offensive than if he uses it on one of the girls in the house.

[Rob]

its one rule for one and one rule for another for some people.

[PrimaryObjective]

I'm not sure it is. I don't think it's generally an offensive term. It shows him up as being a bit of a dick to be honest. It doesn't degrade women in any way.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.

Or is everyone tiptoeing around him? :pat:

I'd say no. I don't think people will tiptoe around him. He's quite brash, so I think people would tend to say to him if he was being offensive.

The other thing is who he calls 'bitches'. If he uses it as a general term for women, it's slightly less offensive than if he uses it on one of the girls in the house.

I don't think he is using it on individuals. As i said earlier its anamericanism as for example is the word f*ggot,
Would this be acceptable?

[PrimaryObjective]

I'm not sure what word you said there. The filter has removed it.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I'm not sure what word you said there. The filter has removed it.
Sorry. I've altered it :thumbs:

[PrimaryObjective]

Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

[Rob]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

yes thats not a great idea. :bored:.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by bb9fanatic
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

yes thats not a great idea. :bored:.

Hi. I've been waing for you to post another interesting Poll today?

Very disappointed :joker:

[PrimaryObjective]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

I'll post one then.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

I'll post one then.
I'm just doing it :dog:

[Dreary]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by bb9fanatic
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.

God and gets loads of abuse :joker:

yes thats not a great idea. :bored:.

Hi. I've been waing for you to post another interesting Poll today? Your topic's quite high up on the list at the moment isn't it

Very disappointed :joker:

[PrimaryObjective]

Oh, sorry, I've posted it now. I didn't see your post in time.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=86723

[Dreary]

Your topic's quite high up onthe list at the moment isn't it:mad::elephant:

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Dreary
Your topic's quite high up onthe list at the moment isn't it:mad::elephant:

Primaryobjection turned it into a Poll :elephant:

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Dreary
Your topic's quite high up onthe list at the moment isn't it:mad::elephant:
No it isn't :puzzled:

[letmein]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by swaredown
No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.

I'm not getting this wrong and obviously i'm well aware of the threatening behaviour which was totally unacceptable.

My point is that in this Country the term B*tch is seen as a derogatory and offensive term used to discribe women
and yet appears to be acceptable in the house.

I think this is total double standards and that BB should make him aware of the English definition.

That's all i meant

Um, do you know the English definition of bitch? It means a female dog. I don't think that's really going to enlighten anyone.

[letmein]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.

Or is everyone tiptoeing around him? :pat:

I'd say no. I don't think people will tiptoe around him. He's quite brash, so I think people would tend to say to him if he was being offensive.

The other thing is who he calls 'bitches'. If he uses it as a general term for women, it's slightly less offensive than if he uses it on one of the girls in the house.

I don't think he is using it on individuals. As i said earlier its anamericanism as for example is the word f*ggot,
Would this be acceptable?

Uh, the f-word is not an Americanism. Perhaps you wrote that wrong. That is UNACCEPTABLE in the US.

When you use terms like the f-word, or the n-word, you are sectioning out a portion of society. Men against women is an even playing field. It's a 50/50 battle. There are unacceptable words to call women, of course. But bigoted slurs are made a huge deal out of because it's picking on a specific minority, against all others.

[fairymoon]

darnell is black, i have lots of black mates when i go out on a friday we go to a r,b club everyone says bitches its a black thing nothing wrong really if he said it to someones face then that would be diffrent but he just says it when he talks thats all,

[PrimaryObjective]

The results of the poll on THIS (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=86723) thread at the moment says that 39 tibb members are not offended by it whilst 11 tibb members are.